Marvel Movie Madness! Part 16: The Punisher (1989)

The guilty must be punished. So will the audience?

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Part 16: The Punisher (1989, 24% @ 17 reviews)
Directed by Mark Goldblatt, starring Dolph Lundgren, Jeroen Krabbe, Louis Gossett Jr, Kim Miyori

Alex: To say that this 1989 outing is the best Punisher is less a reflection that the other two are not good and more that this is actually a decent flick. That said, I'm not exactly calling for a Dolph critical re-appreciation; this movie, just like all of the Punishers, has its small cabal of supporters and that seems perfectly reasonable.

With Lundgren still in peak condition, this movie gets a crucial element right: Frank Castle looks scary as hell. The thing with Thomas Jane or Ray Stevenson is that they still look sane after morphing into the Punisher, and their movies glorified the vigilantism as an "ends justifies the means" kind of deal. Here, Lundgren's focused, one-note performance is a great service to the character. With dark, sunken eyes and in a constant sweat, this Punisher is a cracked-out maniac so far removed from the human race he can barely form a coherent sentence.

And this opening monologue?

"Come on, God, answer me. For years I'm asking, 'Why?' Why are the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the world: Here is justice. Here is punishment. Here, in me."

Good stuff.


Jeff: Yeah, that's a reasonably well-written little monologue. But I read your thoughts and I feel like we must have seen different movies, because I felt like Lundgren played the Punisher by trying to move, breathe, or blink as little as possible.

But Lundgren's vacant performance isn't the biggest problem. In fact, if The Punisher weren't so silly and cheap-looking, his acting might have been a decent anchor for the flick -- but the whole thing is just a giant mess. I found myself wondering if they used up most of their budget with that big house explosion in the opening, because the rest of the movie looks made for TV; it boasts the sort of flat, one-take cinematography you used to see during episodes of Hunter or The A-Team in the '80s. I'm pretty sure Goldblatt only took this job because he thinks it's neat to blow stuff up (and boy, does he love that old shot where a bad guy goes flying through the air with an explosion in the background).

And the acting! It melts your brain. Scenery is chewed like old gum. I think the best performances were delivered by those hostage mobster kids, but my favorite moment was probably the sequence when the wet-suited Yakuza ninjas kill the guys with French accents that sound like they were airlifted in from the castle scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Having said all that, I have to admit that The Punisher works pretty well as an unintentional comedy, and it has a certain amount of MST3K-style Saturday afternoon cable viewing value. It really is so bad it's good.

Tim: Oh, c'mon, Jeff. It's not that bad. Much like the other Roger Corman-affiliated Marvel movie, The Fantastic Four, I found myself enjoying it, given that my expectations were essentially nil. This is certainly a cheap looking movie, but I think that's indirectly one of its biggest strengths. The Punisher doesn't have any super powers, so there's no need for any bad 1980s special effects. Instead, the action scenes have a certain grittiness to them that's kind of refreshing in our manically edited, CGIed-to-the-gills times -- when a guy is hanging off the side of the bus, he's really hanging off the side of the bus. The director, Mark Goldblatt, subsequently went on to become an Oscar-nominated editor, and The Punisher moves along smoothly and efficiently.

That said, you guys are right: the performances vary wildly. Louis Gossett Jr. is fine, as is noted "that guy" Jeroen Krabbé, but the guy who plays Shake, Castle's sidekick, is just insufferable -- his whole "master thespian" shtick made me think he was auditioning for the role of the wacky waiter at the Max in Saved by the Bell. And yeah, Dolph Lundgren is fine when he's killing people or glowering menacingly, but he's kind of a void otherwise. He and Gossett are supposed to be best friends, but there was never a moment when I believed they'd even met before. What did they used to talk about?

Gossett: Thanks for inviting me over to watch the game, Frank!

Lundgren: (silence, looks off in the distance)

Gossett: Man, I sure hope the Yankees can start hitting again. Their bats have been ice cold for weeks.

Lundgren: (grunts, continues to look off in the distance)

Regardless, The Punisher is a pretty solid B-movie. I was never really bored, but it's by no means a forgotten classic. It's fine.


Jeff: Oh, I wasn't bored either. I was in hysterics. And I can't hate on Shake, because without him, we wouldn't have had the scene where our shadowy, no-nonsense vigilante uses a jerry-rigged remote-controlled car to lure a stuttering wino into a dark alley.

But unlike you, I didn't think the action sequences were gritty at all. In fact, during that interminable scene where the Punisher stands on a table and shoots every square inch of a Yakuza casino, I would have welcomed some handicam or CGI tomfoolery, just to break things up a little. I was left to let my mind wander and ask Punisher-related questions like: Did he build that little remote-controlled car? Does he glue those little skulls on his knives himself? How does he pay for gas? Does meditating naked in a sewer make you explosion-proof?

Alex: Obviously not realistic, but I wouldn't argue it stretched the believability of the movie either. I was so burnt out by the sad and gross sadism of the next two Punisher movies that this movie's cheapo Saturday afternoon TV vibe suits me just fine. Even the opening credits are a comforting ripoff of Night Gallery's intro sequence.

Also, Tim, isn't that the point of the Punisher? A black void who can no longer be reached, even by the people closest to him? He's a monster once beyond hopelessness.

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randymongoose

Randy Mongoose

3 times I've sat down to watch this film, and I've never made it through the opening 5 mins, I just get so bored and wanna watch something else

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Jun 16 - 06:04 PM

Justin D.

Justin D.

I don't have anything much to say about this movie because I've never seen it. Surprising I know, but then I was never a fan of the Punisher to begin with. I hear it was bad though.

Jun 13 - 01:27 PM

Wisenheimer

Joshua Dinsmore

I saw it and didn't like it very much. Heck, I couldn't even remember what it was about or who any of the characters were before I read parts of the conversation above me.

Jun 13 - 01:32 PM

King Crunk

King Crunk

I'm a huge Punisher fan, but very few comic books writers have gotten him right, and no film has done him justice. Garth Ennis is the only writer I can think of that fully grasped what it was The Punisher was about. Like Alex said, The Punisher is detached for humanity; it is not about justice, it is literally about punishment, and there is no mercy to be had for those that must be punished. Ennis is the only comic writer to understand this sociopathic mindset The Punisher has, and he did a marvelous job of making truely horrible bad guys so that you did not turn on The Punisher and see him as the villian (the two newest movies failed in this respect), as well as have brief moments of humanity from The Punisher, only to watch Frank try to subdue these emotions (always succeeding) as he knows it makes him weak. It is brilliant stuff that all The Punsiher movies have lacked. They either make Castle completely one note (he should be fairly consistent, with brief lapses of emotion, it is what makes him interesting) and uninteresting, or not brutal enough. This movie came out before Ennis redefined the character, so I am a little more lenient with it. I still think it is crap, and I laughed at Jeff's comments about the skulls on the knives and what not. It is a pretty stupid movie that lacks the grit, great villians, and wonderful side characters that make the best of the character's stories good.

The Jane version screws up with the fact that they changed the origin so much that it alters the mindset of Castle. In the comic, his family is gunned down in Central Park during a mob shoot-out, the gunmen never found. This injustice causes Frank to see the need for society's scum to be punished. By having Castle know who killed his family like the Jane version did, they turned the entire movie into a another revenge flick, which undermines The Punisher's existence. I actually liked Jane in the role the best of all three Punisher's (his voice was perfect; it is how I imagine The Punisher sounding when I read the comics), but the movie itself did not have enough "punishing" in it, and instead was just a big set up for the end fight where Castle gets his revenge. I did not like the changes made to the origin, or the overall flow of the movie, so that is why this one gets the seal of disapproval from me.

The Stevenson version is worse because Stevenson sucks in the role, the script sucked, they cranked the violence levels up to that found in Ennis' comics, except they forgot to make the cause of the violence interesting or compelling, and the production values were incredibly low. It was a horrible movie that missed virtually everything that made The Punisher great, and instead thought having him kill people in outrageously grusome ways would please the fanboys. It did not.

Overall, I think The Punisher is one of Marvel's best characters, but hardly anybody knows what to do with him. I think it would be best if they did a series on HBO or something that was based around Ennis' run on the comic, as they would already have a great framework for the entire series, and could even use Ennis' comic scripts as a jumping off point for the scripts for each episode, since they are excellent.

Jun 13 - 01:39 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

HUGE PUNNISHER FAN . . . I'd say: damn. The brother wrote "2 thousand words" in a post about The Punnisher . We're talking about a comic-book VIGILANTE . . .who will tear the bad guy's pulsating heart out of his own a-- and feed it to him.



Jun 13 - 01:58 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

I like the old pre-Ennis War Journals as well. My favorite Punisher is still the ones where he'd show up in the back of ambulances and hospitals and tell people how he was going to put things right for them.

Jun 13 - 03:37 PM

Alan Smithee

Alan Smithee

I found Castle to be one dimensional even in Ennis' run. He's simply a man that flourishes in the midsts of conflict and if anything he's downright evil at times, especially in Born. The thing is it works because Ennis' world is bigger than just the Punisher. It's more about the seedy underbelly of that world and it's players. Frank's role is essential that of an unstoppable force. Ennis sets em up and Frank knocks em down while deep down you're left cheering for the hand of punishment.

The biggest problem with the movies is that the writers were completely incompetent. Besides being cringeworthy, there's nothing believable about any of it and so you just don't care what happens next. Although I do agree an HBO series being overseen by Ennis would be the only way I'd sit through more Punisher screen-time at this point.

Jun 13 - 10:23 PM

King Crunk

King Crunk

I agree, Ennis had supporting characters deal with many of the more emotional elements of his stories(like the agent chick in the first arc who gets his baby, his Vietnam buddies, the lady who got breast cancer and saved him, etc.), which is another thing that all the movies have missed; the great supporting players to counterbalance Castle's often inhumane actions.

Jun 13 - 10:33 PM

King Crunk

King Crunk

Oh, and Born was one of my least favorite of Ennis' run on the character. I still liked it, but I agree that Castle was a little too heartless in it. This whole discussion has made me look through all of my Punisher collection, and I found a one shot by Ennis that I am curious if you have read called, "The Cell." I am asking because you mentioned The Punisher being one dimensional in Ennis' run (I agree with you on that for the most part, I just thought Ennis did a solid job of occasionally adding something that made Castle have brief lapses of humanity, like his new kid, or his feelings of revenge when Nicky Cavella desecrates his family's graves), and I think this is the best Punisher story Ennis wrote because it actually brings some real, furious emotion out of The Punisher by the end. I do not want to spoil it in case you have not read it, because the end is extremely good, and very satisfying as an end to Castle's tale.

Jun 13 - 11:02 PM

Alan Smithee

Alan Smithee

I've read all of Ennis' Max run including the one shots. There's a few instances where he's a bit contemplative, but ultimately he's portrayed as being at the point of no return and honestly that works for me. He's a cold hearted killer with his own sense of an uncompromisable morality and there's not much more to him. Personally the Nam bookend arcs are my favorite. *SPOILER* The fact that it shows how he willingly opened himself up to be consumed by the darkness inside is the most interesting part of the character imo. The thing that's always bugged me is when the guy writing about his brother and Valley Forge questions whether or not Frank made a deal with the devil or if he's a schizo. It's been a while so maybe I missed something, but how could the writer know all that? I can't remember it being elaborated on and comes off as sloppy writing. Maybe Ennis was planning on doing something with all that down the line or I missed something about the writers true identity. It's probably best left ambiguous as it was in the end of Born. Anywho ... just something that's always bugged me about the run.

Jun 14 - 12:05 AM

Mavent

Juan Valdez

I'd agree with you, except that the third Punisher movie, "War Zone", was based entirely on Ennis's version of the Punisher... which is why it sucked. Ennis was great in comics, where his stilted dialog and cheesy Wile-E-Coyote sadism was mitigated someone by Steve Dillon's slick, cartoony, "don't take any of this too seriously" artwork. When brought to the screen, though, the Ennis version of the Punisher was just too vile and unpleasant for most movie-goers.

Jun 13 - 10:27 PM

King Crunk

King Crunk

I am not sure we are talking about the same comic runs here, man. Steve Dillon did not illustrate a single issue of Ennis' MAX series, you are thinking of the Marvel Knights series that preceded it and still had The Punisher in the same universe as Spiderman, Daredevil, Hulk, etc. I have every issue of both series, and I can say that after Marvel removed the monthly Punisher title from the Marvel imprint and on to the MAX one, the series got much darker, grittier, and just plain better. Ennis was allowed to use all the cursing he wanted, have nudity, and up the ante on how evil he could make his bad guys. It allowed him to really unleash was The Punisher could be. It was the best comic running while Ennis was on it, and I can certainly say the movie missed everything that made the comic great. I know "War Zone" was heavily inspired by the Ennis comics, but it lacked Ennis' good writing, dark humor, and emotional whallop. They could dress the movie up like Ennis' Punisher with tons of brutal violence, but that does not mean it has the same effect as his stories did. The storyline sucked for War Zone, the script sucked, the acting sucked, the directing sucked (action scenes were edited to shit in some spots), and the actual story elements they did borrow from Ennis' comics (like Maginty) were completely out of place, since they were taken randomly from varying storylines. And your point about Ennis run being successful because of cartoony artists making it hard to take seriously is also moot, as the first arc on the MAX series ("In the Beginning") was illustrated by Lewis Larosa, who depicts The Punisher's antics not as cartoon tomfoolery to be taken lightly, but as viscious, brutal, and ultra-gritty.

Jun 13 - 10:53 PM

frogleg

Josh Quarles

I honestly loved Ray Stevenson as Frank Castle. I agree that the movie was terrible. I also agree that the directing wasn't great and the acting overall was crap. But specifically, I thought Stevenson was the best fit of the three different actors that have played the Punisher.

Jun 14 - 12:09 PM

King Crunk

King Crunk

Physically, he probably resembled the character the most, but I just did not like his voice or his prescence. It did not remind of The Punisher for some reason. I respect your opinion, though man, and can understand why you liked him.

Jun 14 - 03:12 PM

Justin D.

Justin D.

I think the reason Punisher fails in film is because his story is one we've seen the likes of Charles Bronson do a thousand times over. He was just one of an 80s boom in crazy vigilante anti-heroes that graced the pages of comics, trying to match the characters appearing in film at the time (it's no coincidence that the character's first appearance was in 1974, the same year Bronson's "Death Wish" was released, a film that the Punisher story mirrors beat for beat). You may think otherwise but the Punisher is a revenge story. Because of the deaths of his wife and kids he goes on the warpath, taking out criminals wherever he finds them, crime in general paying for their deaths. Like I said, we've seen it all before and that's why I figure it doesn't work. It's also why I don't like the Punisher much. He's just an 80s action movie character with a couple of screws lose and an itchy trigger finger. He works best when real Marvel superheroes are forced to team up w/ him and then ditch him because he's completely unhinged. Maybe the Punisher should only be reserved for cameo appearances in actual Marvel hero movies.

Jun 14 - 09:00 AM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Sounds similar to my thoughts on how this movie was assembled. Check it out.

Jun 14 - 10:51 AM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

So the late 80's/early 90's were interesting for comic book movies - in so much as they still weren't respected as something to carry a legitimate story.

Watching this Punisher, I feel like the studio saw the success (but probably didn't actually watch it)of Burton's first Batman - and instead of paying attention to the amazing story they pulled from the SOURCE MATERIAL - and took from it that having an established name/property would be enough to generate viewers. Similar to the later sequels of Hellraiser, the studio took a pre-made script (horror for them, action for this) and inserted "The Punisher" as the main character.

I can't hate on Dolph. He was an action star in the 80's, and filled the minimal requirements the movie asked for. Dolph has two emotions he can play (and play well) - 1)angry/spiteful/bitter 2)asleep. So for this story, he fit the bill.

That said, Sly probably got the best performance of Dolph's career in the Expendables. It's too bad Dolph is going backwards in his career by accepting the lead role in "In the Name of the King 2". Sad that Dolph is going straight from Sly (who does a great job directing property he wrote/created) to Uwe Bowl - who churns out movies the pace of Woody Allen, with the artistic sensibilities of Ed Wood.

Jun 13 - 01:51 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

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ALL you talk about is television . . .that doesn't bore you?

Jun 13 - 02:31 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Nope. Not really.

Jun 13 - 02:52 PM

Justin D.

Justin D.

Wait, they're seriously making an In the Name of the King 2? Jesus H Christ, that's awful news. But yeah, around this time comic books were on the decline. Publishers needed something to bolster sales, and at the time the popular trend was the amoral anti-hero who shoots first and asks questions later. Thus characters like Punisher were born.

Jun 14 - 11:23 AM

Confounded

Matthew Bertram

I always felt like this Punisher suffered from Terminator backlash. Earlier in the decade The Terminator exploded on screen and this film felt too much like it was trying to emulate the same success. Big, emotionless center-star. Gritty action. Unfortunately it failed miserably. They tried to mix Terminator with JCVD. It still is easier to watch on a lazy Sunday than any of the other attempts, though.

Jun 13 - 01:52 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

A million times, yes. I think that's EXACTLY what they did.

Jun 13 - 02:00 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

HUGE PUNNISHER FAN . . . I'd say: damn. The brother wrote "2 thousand words" in a post about The Punnisher . We're talking about a comic-book VIGILANTE . . .who will tear the bad guy's pulsating heart out of his own a-- and feed it to him.



Jun 13 - 01:58 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

A million times, yes. I think that's EXACTLY what they did.

Jun 13 - 02:00 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

THe PUNISHER ORIGINS

The Punisher was conceived of by Gerry Conway, writer of The Amazing Spider-Man, who helped design the character's distinctive costume:
? In the '70s, when I was writing comics at DC and Marvel, I made it a practice to sketch my own ideas for the costumes of new characters ? heroes and villains ? which I offered to the artists as a crude suggestion representing the image I had in mind. I had done that with the Punisher at Marvel.[3] ?

Conway had drawn a character with a small death's head skull on one breast. Marvel art director John Romita, Sr., took the basic design, blew the skull up to huge size, taking up most of the character's chest, and added a cartridge bandolier that formed the skull's teeth. Amazing Spider-Man penciller Ross Andru was the first artist to draw the character for publication.

Appearing for the first time in The Amazing Spider-Man #129 (February 1974), the Punisher was initially an antagonist of the titular hero. He was a bloodthirsty vigilante who had no qualms about killing gangsters, something that most superheroes of the time refrained from doing. J. Jonah Jameson described him as "the most newsworthy thing to happen to New York since Boss Tweed." In this appearance, the Punisher was determined to kill Spider-Man, who was wanted for the apparent murder of Norman Osborn.[4] This version of the Punisher was shown as an athletic fighter, a master marksman, and an able strategist. All he would reveal about himself was that he was a former U.S. Marine. He had a fierce temper but also showed signs of considerable frustration over his self-appointed role of killer vigilante. In particular, he was engaged in extensive soul-searching as to what was the right thing to do: although he had few qualms about killing he was outraged when his then-associate, the Jackal, apparently killed Spider-Man by treacherous means rather than in honorable combat. Spider-Man, who was himself no stranger to such torment, concluded that the Punisher's problems made his own seem like a "birthday party."[4]

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SO THE PUNISHER began differently and morphed into the movie versions

Jun 13 - 02:02 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

okay, and here we arrive at THE PUNISHER'S metamorphosis into the more "accessible" audience-friendly hero:

Due to the Punisher's homicidal nature, few of his foes became recurring antagonists, the most notable of these being the severely scarred enforcer Jigsaw. The Punisher also acquired an arch-nemesis in the form of the Kingpin,[11] a longtime Spider-Man and Daredevil foe, and developed enmity with Daredevil himself, who likewise abhorred and fought against the Punisher's brutal methods. Villains such as the Jackal, Bushwacker, Doctor Doom,[12] The Reavers and Bullseye would be used to provide more of a challenge for the character. In addition, heroes such as Spider-Man, Captain America, Daredevil, Ghost Rider,[13] the Hulk, Wolverine,[14] Nick Fury, and Moon Knight[15] would appear. Often the stories would use the appearance of those heroes to provide commentary on the difference between the Punisher and those more colourful characters. During Don Daley's run on The Punisher title, his version of justice was described by the editor as "an eye for an eye."[16]
[edit] Decline

In 1995, Marvel canceled all three ongoing Punisher series due to poor sales. The publisher attempted a re-launch almost immediately, with a new ongoing series Punisher, under the new Marvel Edge imprint, by writer John Ostrander, in which the Punisher willingly joined and became the boss of an organized crime family, and later confronted the X-Men and Nick Fury. The series ran for 18 issues, from November 1995 to April 1997. Writer Christopher Golden's four-issue Marvel Knights miniseries The Punisher: Purgatory (November 1998 ? February 1999) posited a deceased Punisher resurrected as a supernatural agent of various angels and demons. This version of the character also appeared in a 4-issue mini-series co-starring Wolverine.
[edit] Revivals

A 12-issue miniseries by writer Garth Ennis and artist Steve Dillon, again titled The Punisher (April 2000 ? March 2001), under the Marvel Knights imprint, revived the character's popularity. An ongoing series (37 issues, August 2001 ? February 2004), primarily by Ennis and Dillon, followed, succeeded in 2004 by an ongoing Ennis series under Marvel's mature-readers imprint, MAX. Returning the character to his lone vigilante roots, those series combined crime focused stories with black humor. The look of the Punisher was modified further removing the white gloves and pairing his traditional skull imprinted shirt with combat trousers, black combat boots and a black trench coat. Castle has used this costume on occasion in mid-2000s stories before The Punisher War Journal vol. 2.

Jun 13 - 02:04 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

The DEAL is: I'm researching this Punisher character because I'm not IN to comic books and I like to get more information on things I don't know much about. It builds the Intelligence Quotient.

Jun 13 - 02:42 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

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Jun 13 - 02:15 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

So let me get this straight. Making Punisher movies will fix our country's economic problems? Your lengthy three posts have taken quite the twist at the end. Wait a sec...You aren't M. Night, are you?

Jun 13 - 02:23 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

WOW. what a critic. No . . . INVESTING IN BOX OFFICE RETURNS in general . . . you can do it through scott trade. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. I've been writing about BOX OFFICE FUTURES in the other threads and my points (page views) went up 20 points.

Jun 13 - 02:28 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

What the heck interests you about Katie Couric? (that's really odd.) I am Noah James. / http://iamnoahjames.com/

Jun 13 - 02:35 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Had I known you were this high-strung, I wouldn't have left any comment. My bad. I just thought you came out of left field after your two informative posts to end your third one with ways to fix our economy - so I thought I would write a light post that would give everyone (including you, I had hoped) a chuckle. I don't take myself 100% seriously, so I forget others do. Completely my fault. I shall bother you no more, and focus on enjoying this sight with others who have senses of humor. And in all seriousness: Thanks for the free advertising!

Jun 13 - 02:51 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

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Jun 13 - 03:20 PM

The NewHampshire Database

Kirk McCarty

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Jun 13 - 11:46 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

Actually, I'm discussing the origins of The Punnisher, Turkey!!!!

Jun 14 - 08:41 AM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

So let me get this straight. Making Punisher movies will fix our country's economic problems? Your lengthy three posts have taken quite the twist at the end. Wait a sec...You aren't M. Night, are you?

Jun 13 - 02:23 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

WOW. what a critic. No . . . INVESTING IN BOX OFFICE RETURNS in general . . . you can do it through scott trade. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. I've been writing about BOX OFFICE FUTURES in the other threads and my points (page views) went up 20 points.

Jun 13 - 02:28 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

What the heck interests you about Katie Couric? (that's really odd.) I am Noah James. / http://iamnoahjames.com/

Jun 13 - 02:35 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Had I known you were this high-strung, I wouldn't have left any comment. My bad. I just thought you came out of left field after your two informative posts to end your third one with ways to fix our economy - so I thought I would write a light post that would give everyone (including you, I had hoped) a chuckle. I don't take myself 100% seriously, so I forget others do. Completely my fault. I shall bother you no more, and focus on enjoying this sight with others who have senses of humor. And in all seriousness: Thanks for the free advertising!

Jun 13 - 02:51 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

I endured a lot of abuse on this site when I first started and now I'm TOTALLY high-strung. Its fucked-up. I'm going to calm down. You're welcome for the free advertising.

EVERYBODY literally used to get on my case on Rotten Tomatoes in July-August of '09 . . . (it was HOSTILE surely). damn. so, I deeply apologize Mr. NOAH JAMES . . ./ visit NOAH JAMES' WEBSITE at IAMNOAHJAMES dot com. plug . . . plug.

Jun 13 - 03:20 PM

The NewHampshire Database

Kirk McCarty

Everyone abuses you because you're a damn lunatic. 3 long, consecutive posts, and all of it us just a bunch of word vomit. Not to mention the capitalization...

Jun 13 - 11:46 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

Actually, I'm discussing the origins of The Punnisher, Turkey!!!!

Jun 14 - 08:41 AM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

WOW. what a critic. No . . . INVESTING IN BOX OFFICE RETURNS in general . . . you can do it through scott trade. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX. I've been writing about BOX OFFICE FUTURES in the other threads and my points (page views) went up 20 points.

Jun 13 - 02:28 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

here's your website:
iamnoahjames.com .

ALL you talk about is television . . .that doesn't bore you?

Jun 13 - 02:31 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Nope. Not really.

Jun 13 - 02:52 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

What the heck interests you about Katie Couric? (that's really odd.) I am Noah James. / http://iamnoahjames.com/

Jun 13 - 02:35 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Had I known you were this high-strung, I wouldn't have left any comment. My bad. I just thought you came out of left field after your two informative posts to end your third one with ways to fix our economy - so I thought I would write a light post that would give everyone (including you, I had hoped) a chuckle. I don't take myself 100% seriously, so I forget others do. Completely my fault. I shall bother you no more, and focus on enjoying this sight with others who have senses of humor. And in all seriousness: Thanks for the free advertising!

Jun 13 - 02:51 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

I endured a lot of abuse on this site when I first started and now I'm TOTALLY high-strung. Its fucked-up. I'm going to calm down. You're welcome for the free advertising.

EVERYBODY literally used to get on my case on Rotten Tomatoes in July-August of '09 . . . (it was HOSTILE surely). damn. so, I deeply apologize Mr. NOAH JAMES . . ./ visit NOAH JAMES' WEBSITE at IAMNOAHJAMES dot com. plug . . . plug.

Jun 13 - 03:20 PM

The NewHampshire Database

Kirk McCarty

Everyone abuses you because you're a damn lunatic. 3 long, consecutive posts, and all of it us just a bunch of word vomit. Not to mention the capitalization...

Jun 13 - 11:46 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

The DEAL is: I'm researching this Punisher character because I'm not IN to comic books and I like to get more information on things I don't know much about. It builds the Intelligence Quotient.

Jun 13 - 02:42 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Had I known you were this high-strung, I wouldn't have left any comment. My bad. I just thought you came out of left field after your two informative posts to end your third one with ways to fix our economy - so I thought I would write a light post that would give everyone (including you, I had hoped) a chuckle. I don't take myself 100% seriously, so I forget others do. Completely my fault. I shall bother you no more, and focus on enjoying this sight with others who have senses of humor. And in all seriousness: Thanks for the free advertising!

Jun 13 - 02:51 PM

Noah James

Noah Kinsey

Nope. Not really.

Jun 13 - 02:52 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

Maybe 20th Century Fox can introduce THE PUNISHER in Spiderman 5! . . . (and by that time 2014, we will know how to invest in 20th Century Fox's stock in an easier fashion).

We need to bring THE PUNISHER BACK to his origin . . . in The Amazing Spiderman.

Jun 13 - 02:53 PM

manwithoutfear19

Daniel Raimondi

that's a good idea Punisher should have been in one of spider-man movies

Jun 13 - 05:44 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

I endured a lot of abuse on this site when I first started and now I'm TOTALLY high-strung. Its fucked-up. I'm going to calm down. You're welcome for the free advertising.

EVERYBODY literally used to get on my case on Rotten Tomatoes in July-August of '09 . . . (it was HOSTILE surely). damn. so, I deeply apologize Mr. NOAH JAMES . . ./ visit NOAH JAMES' WEBSITE at IAMNOAHJAMES dot com. plug . . . plug.

Jun 13 - 03:20 PM

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