You know the Wienstiens have hit rock bottom when they are making reboots to Scanners and Hellraiser. There used to be a time when they could turn any garbage into gold(boondock saints)
Sep 25 - 05:38 AM
VERY surprised that Campbell is returning.
They must have offered her a ton of $$$.
I loved Scream 1,2 and yes even 3.
But do we really need three more?
I'm still psyched that the original cast is back.
As for the other franchises mentioned?
Are you kidding?
Hellraiser.....never was a fan.
Where the hell are all the writers out there?
Hasn't Hollywood learned that the re-makes and re-boots are NOT what the majority of us want?
Sep 25 - 06:56 AM
"Hasn't Hollywood learned that the re-makes and re-boots are NOT what the majority of us want?"
This is an incorrect statement. The Sheep are the majority.
Re-makes and re-boots continue to be made, because they continue to turn a profit, because the built-in audience of sheep out there continue to see these movies at the theaters when they are released. No matter that its Tomatometer score is rock bottom; no matter that it's not even screened for critics; no matter that every fiber of their being tells them it will suck: the sheep continue to support these movies by seeing them opening weekend.
Hollywood is doing what they should: providing a marketable product for which dimless Sheep continue to pay for.
RottenTomatoes.com is doing what they should: providing a Tomatometer score for the products provided by Hollywood.
Sheep are NOT doing what should: avoiding products with a low Tomatometer score. This will sap the profits from Hollywood, which will force their hand at providing better products.
Hollywood is not the problem. Sheep is the problem. They are easily identifiable: just check out the forums on Monday. They will be complaining about how the newest re-make didn't hold a candle to the original. When in fact this is something the rest of us already knew.
Sep 25 - 09:40 AM
So, the Sheep aren't doing what they should. Which is, according to you, watching exactly what they are told to watch by listening to the critics via the Tomatometer.
Just being a dick. They still qualify as Sheep. They just choose the wrong Sheppard, studio marketing.
Sep 25 - 09:55 AM
very surprised huh brian? why? cuz she's been beating down the door for Oscar winning material? she hasn't done anything in years dude. this shouldn't surprise anyone.
i don't mind most reboots(its marketing Crack, so cheap...so easy to make) if they execute the movie well. my problem is when its SIMPLY to make a quick buck and the movie is garbage. none of the mentioned reboots/remakes surprise me. its actually old news on most of em. i know what you did...is the next series to come back, watch. candyman too...
i cant wait for the new trilogy of scream. first one is hands down my fav horror flick ever made. it has everything, cept for an actual b33bie shot. the next 2 weren't as good but they're worlds ahead of most of the sh3t that comes out of the genre.
Sep 25 - 07:45 AM
yea good point Campbell probably jumped all over this just to get back in the game.
All these remakes are really getting annoying. Some of these, like Hellraiser and American Werewolf, are films that I still love and so do many others and I really just don't see why they have to do it. Sure the special effects are gonna be better but I doubt the movies on the whole will be. I just hope they don't kill them for the people that never saw the originals.
Sep 25 - 08:17 AM
Sequel-itis!!! SPY KIDS IV---Jr. will FLIP; SCREAM 4: can "they" bring back Kevin Williamson AND Dr. Wes Craven, Ph.D. (Jenna U.)? SCREAM 3 was a drag (I kept waiting for Shaggy and Scooby to show-up):
the Killer in SCREAM 3 looked EXACTLY like my High School Classmate who really did end-up being the first serial killer/mass murderer in King of Prussia's (Pennsylvania) entire history of existence . . . and for HALLOWEEN, after my classmate killed the first victim, he dressed-up in a SCREAM costume and wore the hunting-knife he used in the killings around his neck (JOHN CHARLES EICHINGER)
DO HORROR MOVIES influence people to commit acts of murder? YES; A LOT depends on the person, though.
HORROR/ SLASHER MOVIES are The Worst!
In court documents JOHN CHARLES EICHINGER indicated learning IN A HORROR MOVIE that stabbing the victim in the stomach actually killed the victim more quickly than stabbing the victim in the chest.
not to big a fan of SLASHER MOVIES (I'll stay informed as to what's being released and when and the directors/writers/stars but "No Slasher Movies" here . . .
Some guys stabbed a chick in real life outside a theater showing MANIAC (1981) Bill Lustig Dir, Joe Spinell star)
SCREAM influenced John Eichinger to become a serial killer/mass murderer in some way i'm pretty convinced.
The SCREAM movies "killed" Four People
look-up the facts of the case(s) and you tell me:
I look forward to SCANNERS 3-D and the others
Sep 25 - 08:29 AM
Gordon Franklin, you sure YOU'RE not the classmate who was the serial killer/mass murderer? Because you act like one, you ****ing freak.
Sep 25 - 11:14 AM
Sep 25 - 09:36 AM
Is there anything you people WON'T argue about?
Gimy.....the majority of Nev's work was in television not the big screen.
She seems to still be working quite a bit in tv.
It's not like she just vanished all together.
Very few people have the big screen as a long term career.
Alec Baldwin anyone?
There's nothing wrong with going back to tv. And Scream 4 isn't exactly going to launch her to the top of Hollywood.
Look at Jennifer Aniston. Another tv actor who has recently been in a zillion bad movies.
Because she's in the tabloids every five seconds.
Does SHE have longevity on the big screen? Doubt it.
She'll be back on tv within the next couple of years.
I understand you're point to a certain extent....
Not really getting the whole sheep thing though.....BAAAAAAAAA.
I'll re-phrase........People with GOOD TASTE don't want any more remakes.
Sep 25 - 10:09 AM
"I'll re-phrase........People with GOOD TASTE don't want any more remakes."
As a matter of fact, I actually do think most people more or less have good taste.
When a movie gets a 10% on the Tomatometer, that means 90% of critics didn't like said movie. I believe that 90% of general audiences also didn't like said movie either. So I believe that most general audiences, just like most critics, more or less have "good taste".
Most critics have to see and review movies, because it's their job. But when all signs seem to indicate it's a rotten tomato, general audiences can choose to not see a movie.
Yet the general audience continue to fall prey to the marketing appeal commanded by movies based on intellectual properties with a built-in fanbase. Too many movies are overwhelmingly panned by everyone (critics and general audiences alike), yet have a good opening weekend, ensuring another one will be made just like it.
I watch many many trailers put out by the studios. I find most of them very enjoyable for their 2.5-minute runtime. But I have yet to watch a movie that was enjoyable, that has also scored less than 30% on the Tomatometer.
I'll listen to critics before I'll listen to studios. The former is sliiightly less biased than the later.
As long as "general audiences" keep acting like sheep and flocking to whatever movie the studios' Mass Marketing Machine tells them to, rotten movies will continue to be produced.
Sep 25 - 12:35 PM
I have enjoyed some movies that were way below 30% on the tomatometer.
Kung-Pow is at 0. I enjoyed it when I saw it. I wouldn't watch it every day, but it,s quite funny and it got a awful lot of one-iner to repeat among friends.
Crticis hated Ace Ventura. It was on many critics worst film of the year when it came out. You know what? I don't care, I still love it!
The other way around, most critics love evrything by Ang Lee. I've seen two Ang Lee films and found them both long and boring.
Do I have bad taste? No. I have tastes that are mine. Calling people "sheep" or saying that they have bad taste is an incredibly egoistic gesture from people who think their opinion are superior than everyone. Sadly, some people are of that kind.
I know someone who totally disagree, most of the time, with my movie taste. He hated Inglorious Basterds and District 9, I loved them. He loved Transformers 2, I hated it. Does he have worst taste than me? No, he has different taste, thats all.
Back to the article, never saw Hellraiser. Is it any good? Bear in mind the only slasher movie I've really loved was Freddy 3
Sep 25 - 01:03 PM
Scream has become so watered down in the sequels, this movie only works 1 time, then it becomes straight parody(and the film never tries to shy away from that fact). Its hard to become emotionally invested in a movie when its aware of its own absurdity.
The only way I can see this movie working is if they make Sydney the killer, and sprinkle in some commentary about how ridiculous hollywood reboots are getting. Where else is there for them to go with this thing?
Sep 25 - 11:11 AM
That is an AWESOME idea.
I'd love to see Nev go psycho with some modern commentary.
Sep 25 - 12:03 PM
I like cheese.
Sep 25 - 01:58 PM
cfm your totally wrong if u think every movie 10 percent or below 90% of the ppl thst watched it did not like it. I will say when a movie is high on the meter it does have a certain lasting impression to it but alot of movies are very enjoyable that are really low the problem is critics critique movies thats there job but the general audience does not watch movie the same way and the bottom line is this site dident exsit or metercritic then everyone would enjoy a lot more movies
Sep 25 - 03:02 PM
the only good scream movie was the first,the 2nd one was nothing special,3rd was terrible,and a 4th is gonna bring back all the characters that really should all be dead by now ,and i bet you they all survive this one aswell.
Sep 26 - 06:55 AM
I prefer cheese.
I like CHEESE, ALSO.
I am cheese.
Gordon Franklin was doing so well, and now this.
Sep 26 - 10:25 AM
decided to read Gordon Franklin,
I rescind. Not a bad reply,
Which was bad.
Sep 26 - 10:33 AM
Movies influence people to kill? Stupid people influence themselves to kill. Some people are so impressionable it doesn't matter - if you are that weak minded, one way or the other, you'll find an excuse.
Sep 26 - 01:01 PM
It is funny how people are saying things such as: "Why does Hollywood keep rebooting movies?!"--Because they are making money on them! All of you complainers out there have to look at it from the producers standpoint. These horror films are very cheap to make, especially if they do not involve known actors. For instance, Halloween 2 only made $17 million dollars opening weekend, but it cost $15 million to make! They already made their money back without the second weekend estimates and DVD/Blu ray sales. The tomatoemeter does not really matter for those of you who think it does. Transformers 2 finished at 19% and has made 831 MILLION DOLLARS, worldwide - so far.
Sep 26 - 02:25 PM
brian, i haven't seen her in anything cept a spare clip here from a sh3t movie where she showed her rack finally. thats it. sorry but, ya might love her as an actress but she's not in the spotlight at all anymore. another Scream would at least put her back on the map for a somewhat limited time, depending on the box office gross. i was surprised she originally turned them down. not trying to be mean, just stating the facts dude
Sep 28 - 07:53 AM
so movies inspire people to kill. you know what else inspires people to kill? religion, politics, jealousy, rage, greed, desperation, poverty, mental illness, and so on and so forth. people have been killing other people long before Thomas Edison invented the movie camera. in the course of human history, i bet a lot less people have decided to kill someone based on what they saw in a movie than by what their government officials and relgiious leaders have told them to do.
Sep 28 - 10:19 AM
300 seizes $45 million
Watch 4-minute extended clip
It's still a hard knock life
A trailer to kill for