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Judd Apatow Talks Writers' Strike
Mr. Freaks and Geeks helps stick it to The Man.
by Jeff Giles | November 06, 2007
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After months of negotiations and speculation, the Writers Guild strike is officially underway, so now we can finally stop talking about what might happen if Hollywood's writers stage a walkout...and start talking about all the repeats and reality shows we'll be watching.

Of course, we can also talk about the strike itself, especially when totally awesome celebrities are on the picket line -- and oh look, here's Judd Apatow, giving IGN Movies an exclusive interview on the work stoppage!

Apatow joined his fellow writers outside the Sony lot on Monday, and IGN Movies was on hand to ask him a few questions about the strike. Though he isn't on the Guild's negotiating committee, he's certainly one of the industry's better-known scribes, and even provided a helpful analogy for members of the general public who might not know what a "residual" is, or might even think writers already make enough money, thank you very much:

One of the main conflicts the Writers Guild have with the AMPTP is over new media, such as digital downloads of TV series or movies, which writers currently receive no residuals for. I asked Apatow how he might explain the reason for the strike to the general public, and he addressed the new media issue using an analogy, saying "Here's how I would explain it: If you're a teamster, you get paid to drive a truck. But if someone invents a new kind of truck, and you're still driving it, you should still get paid." Apatow noted that watching TV or movies online is becoming more and more common, remarking "We're switching trucks at this point. But if someone comes up with a three wheel truck, you're still driving!"

For more of Apatow's thoughts on the writers' strike, click on the IGN Movies link below -- and then be sure to check out the rest of Rotten Tomatoes' strike coverage!

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Comments (1-20 of 53 posts) | Reply
dahluzz
dahluzz writes:
on Nov 06 2007 06:23 AM

here's the deal. the writers are asking for too many things to happen all at once. they're trying to get resids for new media AND get twice as much for each dvd sold. i'm with them on the inclusion of new media (though judd's analogy could've been better), but i can see where it's a little daunting to the studios to not only have to roll out a new media resids plan plus double the dvd returns for writers and in so doing, commit to the same deal with actors and directors. it's a lot all at once. i say, focus on getting new media in the picture and maybe ask for 6 cents on dvds, not 8. if the dvd thing is the sticking point, let it go. you've just made a deal to include web viewings which is what everyone's gonna be watching in the next few years anyways.

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dahluzz
dahluzz writes:
on Nov 06 2007 06:29 AM

huh, guess they already tried that. oh well, strike away then

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Crenshaw
Crenshaw writes:
on Nov 06 2007 06:41 AM

" here's the deal. the writers are asking for too many things to happen all at once. they're trying to get resids for new media AND get twice as much for each dvd sold."

Rule #1: Ask for more than you really want so you can negotiate down, still win, and be seen as the reasonable guys. Well, I hope that's the plan.


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dahluzz
dahluzz writes:
on Nov 06 2007 06:43 AM

In reply to this comment (#1257437)
but if they hadn't asked for dvd in the first place, the deal wouldn't have seemed so huge. they pulled that request on sunday night as a last-ditch effort. the writers should have dealt with one issue at a time because going on strike IS the worst case scenario.

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AdamW81
AdamW81 writes:
on Nov 06 2007 07:10 AM

I don't know, it may seem huge, but the terms of the home video sales and residuals are almost 20 years old. The home video market has changed tremendously since then. I think they should rethink it.

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Boss Fan
Boss Fan writes:
on Nov 06 2007 07:45 AM

5 years from now when a download costs more than the actual DVD, you can point right back to this moment in time - to all these people driving the costs up - because the only way to resolve this and make the writers happy and secure the studios' bottom line is to charge us more. I understand the argument they are presenting and if I were a writer would probably be with them, but as a consumer it feels like another fight that will be settled by simply taking more money from us.

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Baccus83
Baccus83 writes:
on Nov 06 2007 07:51 AM

In reply to this comment (#1258086)
That's not necessarily true.

And I'm going to go out on a limb here, but I don't think that a movie download will ever cost more than a physicial copy. They simply cost too much to make.


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BuckyUnderbelly
BuckyUnderbelly writes:
on Nov 06 2007 07:57 AM

The thing is, asking for more DVD money is not an absurd request for the WGA. Writers don't make much at all off DVDs right now. The last time they negotiated this contract, 20 years ago, the studios convinced the WGA to accept a tiny residual for home video because, at the time, there really wasn't a home video market at all. We rented VHS tapes back then, but few people actually bought them. It didn't seem like the writers were giving up anything significant back then.

And then came the DVD age. And the HUGE money started rolling directly into the studios' coffers.

Huge money that the studios have been pocketing without having to significantly share with anybody. Make no mistake, studios make a LOT more pure profit off putting movies out on DVD (often in multiple repackaged editions) than they do from releasing them to theaters. And make no mistake, they will fight to the death to hang on to that revenue stream.

This is a huge pot of money that the studios have never really had to share. And from their point of view, why should they start now? What they're afraid of is, if they give more to the writers, then they'll have to give more to the actors and directors when their contracts come up next year. And that's REALLY why the studios are digging in their heels right now. This isn't just about the writers. It's about all three guilds. Because whatever happens in this negotiation will happen with the DGA and SAG next year.

This whole thing is like a flashback. Exactly like 20 years ago, there's another emerging technology (electronic downloading this time instead of DVDs) that seems likely to take off.

The battle lines are essentially exactly the same: The studios don't want to give the guilds any residuals for electronic downloads; and the guilds want significant residuals.

The difference is, this time the WGA is still feeling the sting of missing out on the DVD money train. And they're never going to let another opportunity like that slip through their fingers again.

What's gonna happen? Well, the upshot is, there's a LOT of money on the line and neither side is going to give an inch. This is going to be a long and bloody bare-knuckle brawl. It's not going to end quickly or amicably.

In fact, many folks in Hollywood are bracing themselves for a strike that could last for more than a YEAR. Because there's a DISTINCT possibility that the directors and actors guilds will also go on strike as well when their deals expire next year. You might be able to limp along without writers for a while, but with all three guilds on strike, the industry will totally grind to a halt.

It's gonna get worse before it's over. A lot worse.


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AdamW81
AdamW81 writes:
on Nov 06 2007 08:13 AM

I just don't get the people that are saying things like "These writers don't deserve more money, they are already rich" I mean yeah, a lot them are rich, but a lot of them are not and anyway, I know it is kind of a cliched thing, but the heads of the studios and producers are even richer. By saying that the writers don't deserve to get more money from DVD's or any money from downloads, to me, it is like saying that the Studio Heads and producers deserve it all. They do deserve a portion but the writers and eventuall actors and directors also deserve a fair share. How can someone who wrote a movie or a TV show, worked on it, put their hear into it, whether you think it is good or bad, not deserve some money from it, if I as the consumer am willing to pay for it? Why would the Head of Universal get all the money when I download something from iTUnes, but the person who wrote it gets nothing?

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highdough
highdough writes:
on Nov 06 2007 09:41 AM

The thing is, the WGA removed from the table everything (including higher DVD residuals) but downloads, and the studios still wouldn't budge. I think that speaks volumes about who's being impossible here.

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BuckyUnderbelly
BuckyUnderbelly writes:
on Nov 06 2007 09:56 AM

We often see comments on these boards about how the writers are all filthy rich, so who cares if they want more money.

Well, that's just not true.

Yes, there are bazillionaires in Hollywood, no doubt. But you're only talking about the top five percent of the entire industry. The FACT is that about 90% of the membership of the WGA doesn't make their living from writing. Yes, David Koepp or Akiva Goldsman could probably afford to build and fly their own space shuttles, but the vast majority of writers in the WGA are definitely NOT millionaires.

And just because they have the opportunity to work in their dream field doesn't mean that they shouldn't negotiate as hard as they can to earn the best wage possible. Most of these people are everyday folks with mortgages to pay and kids to raise. Just like the rest of us. Why shouldn't they fight for a better contract?


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BuckyUnderbelly
BuckyUnderbelly writes:
on Nov 06 2007 10:11 AM

To be clear ... I'm not suggesting that all screenwriters are destitute, pathetic, pityable creatures toiling in Dickensian sweatshops. But we also need to keep in mind that they're also not all fat cats driving solid gold Rolls Royces and lighting giant cigars with flaming million dollar bills.

There's a whole range of people in different income brackets here and we need to be careful when slinging around sweeping generalizations.

That said, this strike is going to be long and it's going to be brutal. It's a big pile of money and everybody wants some. For the last 20 years the studios have largely had that pile to themselves ... and they're not going to start sharing now out of the goodness of their hearts.

We shall see what happens.


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LostHeroesHell
LostHeroesHell writes:
on Nov 06 2007 10:22 AM

I feel sorry for the poor (idiotic) saps who are gonna be picketing in New York about now...it gets kinda cold in NY this time of year....pretty soon they'll realize its fruitless and go back inside...to write a screenplay about the attempted strike.

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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Nov 06 2007 11:10 AM

Oh those poor middle class writers, not having to struggle to survive, poor them.

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AdamW81
AdamW81 writes:
on Nov 06 2007 11:36 AM

In reply to this comment (#1258846)
Just so I am not misunderstanding you, you feel that since writers are well off they shouldn't fight and negotiate for money that they feel they deserve? They should be happy that from a downloaded movie or tv show that they helped create, they get exactly none of the money from that?

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Bloody Mathias
Bloody Mathias writes:
on Nov 06 2007 11:58 AM

When did people start think that the writers are the greedy ones here?
It the studios that won't pony up and give the writers fair compensation.
They more of a profit from DVDs than they do when the movie's in release and yet only give writers 3 cents from a $20 dollad DVD and no money from downloads.

Get on the side of the little man here, guys.


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Dunk
Dunk writes:
on Nov 06 2007 12:17 PM

In reply to this comment (#1258972)
I have to admit that I can see both sides of this situation. While I'm not surprised that just about everyone is siding with the writers (due to the fact that the studios/producers are hauling in the really big money) and I don't completely disagree with this viewpoint, I haven't seen anyone mention the concept that it is the studios and producers who are actually taking the monetary risk in developing a movie or TV show. So, if I'm putting up $100 million in order to finance a movie (including paying the writer of the movie a salary to write the screenplay) and that movie ends up bringing in several times that amount through distribution, why is it unfair that these profits go back to the people who took the initial risk? If the movie loses money, I'm pretty sure that the studios/producers don't ask the writers to give their salaries back. I'm not saying that the writers don't deserve more compensation, but it doesn't seem like anybody is addressing this issue.

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deneco4
deneco4 writes:
on Nov 06 2007 01:14 PM

writers need money, but i dont think they should get residuals, thats for the people who put the ****ing movie up, the studio... they distribute. Now, i think that writers are very underpaid, and that should definatly change, but why would they get residuals on something they didnt help distribute?

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Segkee
Segkee writes:
on Nov 06 2007 02:02 PM

This past Sunday, a day before the strike, the WGA pulled the doubling DVD residuals off the table. This was one of two sticking points and they PULLED IT. This was a huge move towards peace but the Studios said, "**** that" and walked out. The Studios want a strike and the WGA is giving it to them.

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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Nov 06 2007 02:24 PM

The writers are greedy, they are overpaid right now, why do they deserve more?

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