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David Cross Defends Alvin and the Chipmunks Role

by Alex Vo | January 02, 2008

Summary

Critics, bloggers, movie website readers -- pretty much anybody who knows their way around a keyboard have voiced their "concern" for Alvin and the Chipmunks. But enough is enough, says David Cross, and he's countering with a lengthy tirade of his own. Back to Article

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A Tension Whore writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:10 PM

epic douche.

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Dave the Destroyer writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:15 PM

C'mon, Cross played Alan Ginsburg. A great performance in a great movie and it bombed. He's entitled to pay his bills.

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mouse_clicker writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:22 PM

I figure he should've just kept quiet. Last I heard no one was blasting him for being in the movie. Actually, I didn't even know he was in it. He has some good points and I don't blame him at all. Which is my point, no one *was* blaming him, but he went out on the attack. Now he just looks like a dick for defending a terrible movie.

Plus, it being a kids' movie has nothing to do with it. I'm a man who watches almost exclusively "kids' movies" and I for one know that the target demographic doesn't have anything to do with quality.

-Moses

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LordVapor writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:24 PM

Get your money. Who cares what people say. I didn't watch it cause i grew up on the cartoon and don't wanna tarnish memories. Already paid that price by watching transformers *PINK RACING FLAMES*????? WTF?????

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Armless Penguin writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:27 PM

In reply to this comment (#1419487)
Mouse_Clicker, I disagree. The box office receipts obviously do as well. The children are apparently enjoying the film quite a bit. The fact that you didn't is irrelevant.

And also, the article explains that his post was in specific reference to jokes Patton had made at his expense in regards to his being in the film. So yes, he was being blasted, and thus it's his right to explain.

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HereIsNoWhy writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:47 PM

he always comes off as a whiney ***** to me. liked him in arrested development though.

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sharpless writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:48 PM

People need to chill out. Sure, the movie is a piece of ****, but he's right -- it's a kid's movie. Why the hell not do it? Patton Oswalt also made a good point: If this is really ruining your childhood, then you were a ****ing retard for spending your childhood watching Alvin and the Chipmunks.

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mouse_clicker writes:
on Jan 02 2008 12:58 PM

Armless: What, since when were box office receipts an indication of quality, either? Maybe you missed my point, but you can't just say "Oh, how good of a movie doesn't matter because it's for kids." That's just saying "Kids are too stupid to know they're watching a bad movie." That's no excuse for a movie being bad. I own a pretty large collection of old Disney movies, movies you wouldn't hesitate to say were made for kids, but I love each and every one of them even now, because they're GOOD movies. Alvin and the Chipmunks could've been a GOOD movie, too, it just wasn't. It was a chance to capitalize on a license that hadn't been exploited in a while.

As for this Patton guy ripping on Cross, who the hell is Patton? Now it just looks David Cross is so edgy that he's going out of his way to respond to no-name idiots that are attacking him. I hardly consider one man a crusade against David Cross.

-Moses

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DON OF THE D.E.D writes:
on Jan 02 2008 01:08 PM

That's right it is a waste of time and energy! So why does he feel the need to defend himself? Did'nt want anyone to know that you watch children's movies, so deny that you do. Who gives a crap if you do or not, that's your choice, and if no one likes it tell 'em to eat@!%*! and die!!!!You have'nt worked for six months? Ok, why did'nt you look in your local paper under "Help Wanted"? Or is that not good enough for you. Would'nt want to actually have to get you're hands dirty huh? Think about your regular average person or who has to provide for their family and struggle to make ends meat. Not to mention worrying about the house market these days.If they gave the part to someone else, oh boo hoo, you better start saving your money for rough times that come ahead. So when I hear of hollywood pukes that cry about not working, just think about the rest of the people who are not movie stars in the world who struggle just to keep their head above water.Just remember "Help Wanted". Budget your money properly!

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South_park300 writes:
on Jan 02 2008 01:10 PM

@ mouse_clicker: actually, Patton Oswalt voiced the main rat Remy in Ratatouille (a Disney-Pixar movie). apparently you wouldn't know that since you aren't into Disney movies...oh wait, you are

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Spurple writes:
on Jan 02 2008 01:38 PM

I always hated that "It's a kids movie!" defense. Finding Nemo? Ratatouille? Aren't those kids movies? Don't adults LOVE those movies? The only time age is a factor in enjoying a film is if you are too YOUNG to like it. You can't expect a 6 year old to understand the greatness of The Godfather. But you can never be too OLD to enjoy a film. A good movie is a good movie, regardless of age. If 'Alvin' really was intended for children, and if it was any good, it would have made the adults feel like children again.

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arendr writes:
on Jan 02 2008 01:44 PM

a) This is David Cross we're talking about, not Lawrence Olivier. It's not the end of the world.

b) He comes across as kind of douchy here even though he can be pretty funny sometimes.

c) Move on. This movie shouldn't even be discussed.

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lonechicken writes:
on Jan 02 2008 01:46 PM

Maybe Jason Lee should do an "Ollie Impossible" into Cross's face.

Man, was this guy so worthless as a contributor to society that he couldn't do anything else other than sit around for six months waiting for another acting job?

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Young Turk writes:
on Jan 02 2008 02:02 PM

In reply to this comment (#1419700)
Patton Oswald is actually a pretty famous comedian. Here is a clip of one of his stand up acts: http://youtube.com/watch?v=tfan5MacmsI

Also if you look on the sidebar (related videos) you can find THE clip of Patton making fun of David Cross.

I think someone mentioned this already but he was also the voice of Remy the main character of Pixar's recent film "Rattattouille".

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Introducing.. writes:
on Jan 02 2008 02:04 PM

I heard Cross is a huge douche in real life, so this doesn't surprise me one bit. Still, he was hilarious in Arrested Development, and I understand why he chose to do this movie.

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NMB writes:
on Jan 02 2008 02:05 PM

In reply to this comment (#1420172)
As lone chicken sits and posts on a website about it...

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moviegodfather writes:
on Jan 02 2008 02:23 PM

Mouse Clicker you don't know who patton oswalt is? Do you own a t.v., ya know little box with bright pictures and sounds, Oswalt is one of the highest grossing stand-up acts in the U.S. Plus if you couldn't tell Alvin and the chipmunks was gonna be a piece of crap I geuss you didn't see the trailer, ya know the one that said attention everyone over 9 this film is about talking CGI chipmunks. I do think Cross is being honest though, he hasn't worked in awhile. I personally can't wait for him and chris elliot to make a sitcom called STUPID COMEDIC SELL-OUT WHACKY NEIGHBORS AND CO-WORKERS. The person we should feel sorry for is Jason Lee. Earl got screwed.

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Impavido writes:
on Jan 02 2008 02:44 PM

Why are people mad about a Alvin & the Chipmunks movie? Who cares?

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EJones216 writes:
on Jan 02 2008 03:11 PM

I'm sure most of Cross' arguments are valid (people DO need to work), but I take issue with his first one. This argument that certain movies shouldn't be subject to criticism because "it's a kid's movie" is a load of hooey; I honestly don't know who's more vocal about their own boredom or misery than little kids. ...not to mention that parents *are* the ones paying for the tickets...

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RedRing writes:
on Jan 02 2008 03:27 PM

Err.... people were bashing him for being in this movie?

He's a comedian in a kid's movie... I completely understand.... why would there be bashing.

(to be honest when I first saw the name for some reason I thought "Paul Giamatti" when I realized my error I thought ... "so what?")

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TheBomb69 writes:
on Jan 02 2008 03:37 PM

It's a little disconcerting that he compared 6 months of being out of work to two months for the common man. I could still care less if he is working for a paycheck. It is the American dream.

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ivandrago writes:
on Jan 02 2008 03:42 PM

As an occasional 3D modeler I might watch this when it hits HBO HD. I can't get enough of quality animation even if the movie is junk.

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Turk182Phenomenon writes:
on Jan 02 2008 04:19 PM

It didn't flop. It's almost to $150 million

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minderbinder writes:
on Jan 02 2008 04:30 PM

Wow, that's a genius response, just hilarious. Definitely worth reading the whole thing on his website.

The only douches here are the posters too clueless to get the joke.

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savethemooses writes:
on Jan 02 2008 04:40 PM

In reply to this comment (#1419700)
No-name idiots? That's indicative of your ignorance. Patton Oswalt is becoming a big name as a stand-up, screenwriter and actor. He was Ratatouille, for Christ's sake.

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savethemooses writes:
on Jan 02 2008 04:41 PM

In reply to this comment (#1420834)
In Ratatouille, rather. As R�my.

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T45Red writes:
on Jan 02 2008 05:13 PM

I'm just not going to watch this movie and save a few hours of my life.

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Ishouldntbehere writes:
on Jan 02 2008 05:17 PM

Get off the guy. Anyone who wants to bash David Cross needs to go buy a couple of his CDs first. The guy is probably one of the top 3 stand-up comedians alive. If all you know of him is Arrested Development and movie cameos then you have no idea what he's about. He can make Care Bears next for all I care. His standup, Bob and Dave, Run Ronnie Run....the guy is a comedic genius and modern counter culture icon. Leave him be.

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xeronic writes:
on Jan 02 2008 05:28 PM

i hated the movie, not because it was a low-brow movie, but mostly i hated alvin and the chipmunks growing up. Seeing the trailer, it brought nothing new to the table, but it's a movie for kids, and i can understand making it. If i was offered a lot of money to do it, i would..

It's just sad hollywood's money makers are movies like this.... thats all.

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evil pixie writes:
on Jan 02 2008 05:56 PM

He is neither the first, nor the last actor to make a crappy movie for a pay-check.

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lonechicken writes:
on Jan 02 2008 05:58 PM

In reply to this comment (#1420339)
Yep, ImOverItFoSho. "As I sit..." taking my lunch break at a job that has some semblance of contribution to society. And even if I didn't have it, I'd sure as hell go out looking for a job instead of whining about how I hadn't had a cushy acting gig in 6 months.

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ShiftyJedi writes:
on Jan 02 2008 06:54 PM

Here's my problem:

David Cross is a known comedian that always seem to think he's better then everyone else. You know if Larry the Cable guy took that role he'd shred Larry all day for it. I don't mind when actors take roles that for the money or try something different, but David should learn to take the **** he's given out in the past to other comedians for taking awful roles.

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Mackey23 writes:
on Jan 02 2008 06:58 PM

As far as I'm concerned, Tobias Funke can do no wrong.

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BlueMobius writes:
on Jan 02 2008 07:21 PM

Love David Cross and honestly love his candor here.

As for whether his slam on Jason Lee was warranted? I haven't seen the film so I wouldn't know...refer to factor number one.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Jan 02 2008 07:37 PM

Just to throw my two cents in I think he has a point about it being a kids movie. I took my nieces and nephews to it on Christmas Break while I went and saw National Treasure II and they seemed to love it. If you need a reference to make this point just go back and watch the old Superfriends cartoons which I thought were the best thing since sliced bread when I was a kid. I watched one the other day and saw Aquaman knocked out by a bubble and saw a giant alligator escaping from an inactive volcano and thought, what the hell kinda crack was I smoking to make me think this was good?

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jokerboy1991 writes:
on Jan 02 2008 08:35 PM

In reply to this comment (#1420172)
Its called making a living and working hard, unlike sitting in youre basement bashing someone who's probably more succesful, richer, and definately funnier then you, you suck and david cross is still cool. C'mon he was ausome as Tobias on "Arrested Development".

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rt_hire_me writes:
on Jan 02 2008 10:18 PM

I think more people should own up to taking crappy parts just so they could pay rent. I think there should be a whole site devoted to writers, rewriters, directors, actors, etc. where they could get themselves out of purgatory through religious confession. Just make it public because it would make great reading. How hard is it, though, to know you are signing on to a lemon? Think about getting the script for Enchanted: a Disney live action/animation mix (that would send up big red flags for me), corny jokes about cartoons adjusting to life in New York. It probably looked hokey on paper, but it worked great. So Sarandon paid the rent, and scored another hit.

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moviemonkey2 writes:
on Jan 03 2008 12:43 AM

So....he's defending the movie that he's in, that he himself hasn't even seen. ....ok?

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Sinizine writes:
on Jan 03 2008 01:08 AM

On his website, he explains it better. Also, the slam on Lee is gone, which is actually a little odd to me. I had assumed that it was a playful jab. Not so anymore. Also, there's a letter from Patton Oswald to David explaining the jab.

But really, smaller time comedians I like are in bad movies all the time. Hell, Cross was in both Men In Blacks, despite his character dying in the first one. Unless you're a Will Ferrell, chances are you're stuck playing "Wacky character A" or some brief comedic relief. It's their tv shows they frequent and their standups that are generally the good parts of their career.

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dahluzz writes:
on Jan 03 2008 06:40 AM

patton oswalt shouldn't throw stones. yeah, ratatouille was probly inifnity times better than alvin and the assmonks (which i will never see because their version of 'witch doctor' with david seville was a formative listening experience in my youth and i don't want to besmirch it), but you probly won't be seeing patton in many live action starring roles soon. he's not entirely 'camera-ready' for a big part (looks like a fat lesbian). he got the rat role because of a skit about food on one of his cds. lucky break. david cross has been running game since 'Mr. Show.' he can do whatever he wants (which will no doubt include Alvin II: The 3D Singalong Lightshow, or thereabouts).

Oh wait, Patton just wrapped his big follow-up role in "All Roads Lead Home" about a 12-year-old girl who befiends a horse! Guess he's above D. Cross after all.

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breilly writes:
on Jan 03 2008 08:14 AM

In reply to this comment (#1419700)
As a couple folks below me mentioned, Patton Oswalt is widely regarded as one of the top comedians/writers working today. It seems to me that you're probably a "Mind of Mencia" fan (nothing inherently wrong with that, just a different kind of comedy... that kind being devoid of all things funny, but I digress) so though I respect your opinion, may I suggest utilizing the abundant tools made available via the machine your using to post to perhaps do a little research prior to posting. Have a lovely day. SU-FI!!! Kidding.

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randal1013 writes:
on Jan 03 2008 09:45 AM

i had no idea that david cross was in this movie or that anyone cared.

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AlbertBrodsky writes:
on Jan 03 2008 10:53 AM

There is not much to say that hasn't beens said, but for those of you who don't already know, these two men are perhaps the two most brilliant comedic minds working today. I just read Patton's open letter to David, and I'm still laughing. Too bad for many that their humor is lost on the stupid and lazy. I would love to see both of these two collaborate on kids movie.

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kissman24 writes:
on Jan 03 2008 11:39 AM

Wait, who is this guy and why should I care? The actors in "Fred Claus" are the ones who should be questioned about their decision-making. This guy isn't exactly Kevin Spacey.

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mjsieber writes:
on Jan 03 2008 12:09 PM

Wow. What a monumental douche bag. Did he really critisize on his costar (Jason Lee)? I always like what he does on screen and then he opens his mouth in an interview and I want to shove my fist down his throat. I love that he thinks he's filling some void left by Lee, if that were true than they probably wouldn't need three little CG chipmunks, come to think of it if he were such a hot commodity he probably would have worked more than six months before that hit. Boooooo!

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PornAgainChristian writes:
on Jan 03 2008 04:08 PM

"Patton Oswalt is widely regarded as one of the top comedians/writers working today."

Um, no he's not. He's currently hot in the indie crowd, just like David Cross was about four years ago. But that's not being "one of the top comedians/writers" working today. That's people like Tina Fey, who actually are well-respected and in positions of real power. Not still doing open-mic nights and blogging.

I like Patton, and I like David Cross. But they aren't revolutionaries. Patton Oswalt talks about some of the 'sell-out' work he did to pay his bills in his new comedy CD. As Cross says, Oswalt was even in a frickin' Sierra Mist commercial. You know why? Because their comedy is an act. The nonsense you believe - that the whole world is stupid except you - is an act they put on to sell people like you tickets because you think you're enjoying something nobody else can grasp. But at the end of the day, Oswalt, Cross, Posehn, and all the other 'indie' comics are just people telling jokes for money.

While he does seem kinda dickish, kudos to David Cross for standing up and pointing this out. Artistic integrity is bull**** if you're a pro. Ask David Fincher - Alien 3 anybody? You pay the bills when you have to, and do side projects when you can.

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PornAgainChristian writes:
on Jan 03 2008 04:11 PM

"Patton Oswalt is widely regarded as one of the top comedians/writers working today."

Um, no he's not. He's currently hot in the indie crowd, just like David Cross was about four years ago. But that's not being "one of the top comedians/writers" working today. That's people like Tina Fey, who actually are well-respected and in positions of real power. Not still doing open-mic nights and blogging.

I like Patton, and I like David Cross. But they aren't revolutionaries. Patton Oswalt talks about some of the 'sell-out' work he did to pay his bills in his new comedy CD. As Cross says, Oswalt was even in a frickin' Sierra Mist commercial. You know why? Because their comedy is an act. The nonsense you believe - that the whole world is stupid except you - is an act they put on to sell people like you tickets because you think you're enjoying something nobody else can grasp. But at the end of the day, Oswalt, Cross, Posehn, and all the other 'indie' comics are just people telling jokes for money.

While he does seem kinda dickish, kudos to David Cross for standing up and pointing this out. Artistic integrity is bull**** if you're a pro. Ask David Fincher - Alien 3 anybody? You pay the bills when you have to, and do side projects when you can.

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brave_at_heart27 writes:
on Jan 03 2008 05:38 PM

Personally, I saw the movie, and I didn't think it was that bad.
Of course, it was a bit corny, and there wasn't really much suspense; the twists could easily be seen coming. However, it's one of those movies that your whole family can see together, and share a few laughs with each other. I enjoyed it, because it was a nice time with my family.

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TheAnswerMVP2001 writes:
on Jan 03 2008 06:09 PM

Patton Oswalt shouldn't be talking anything, his only claim to fame is a rat movie which he only did voice work for. Other than that and his short screen time as Spence on King of Queens he's more of a loser and less successful than Cross, so he should just "shutty!" as Doug Heffernan would say.

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cringeworthy writes:
on Jan 04 2008 04:56 AM

In reply to this comment (#1419590)
Hereis, you come off as whiny to me.

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cringeworthy writes:
on Jan 04 2008 04:57 AM

In reply to this comment (#1419590)
... and Arrested Development is for one with a lazy sense of humor.

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minderbinder writes:
on Jan 04 2008 01:46 PM

In reply to this comment (#1421147)
"David Cross is a known comedian that always seem to think he's better then everyone else. You know if Larry the Cable guy took that role he'd shred Larry all day for it. I don't mind when actors take roles that for the money or try something different, but David should learn to take the **** he's given out in the past to other comedians for taking awful roles."

What exactly has he said about other comedians?

Actually reading his post (which I doubt most people here have done), it's obvious that he's joking about most of it...I wouldn't be surprised if comments he has made in the past about other comedians have been made in jest and people couldn't figure that out.

There's a new response from PO on DC's site:
http://www.bobanddavid.com/2008/01/an_open_letter_to_david_cross.html

This whole thing seems like both guys are just using this as an excuse to do some funny ranting, and are laughing at those who have read the posts and thought it was some sort of Serious Fight.

I also caught that the Jason Lee comment was removed, I wonder what's behind that?

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iheartbrucecampbell writes:
on Jan 04 2008 05:35 PM

i love david cross but the reason people are knocking him for being in this is because he's always railing against film like this and anti everything this film stands for, so he's a huge gigantic epic hypocrite for participating in it. the way he talks, he would never take a role for money, which is what he did here.

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MMacKK writes:
on Jan 04 2008 06:15 PM

He'll never top Tobias Funke.

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freewillgeek writes:
on Jan 04 2008 08:44 PM

I think his responses are pretty tongue-in-cheek. He even blasts Jason Lee. He's trying to be funny.

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MaxFisher14 writes:
on Jan 05 2008 08:36 AM

I completely agree with Tobias Funke, sorry, I mean David Cross..........hehe Tobias was funny.

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ugahushpuppy writes:
on Jan 05 2008 11:35 AM

I saw the movie with my little sister. She seemed to love it, as did most of the little kids in the theatre. As an adult who grew up with the cartoons, I thought it was cute. Harmless film in my opinion, why are people so hard up on it?

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Sadistik writes:
on Jan 05 2008 01:13 PM

You guys know this is probably all a joke, right? Patton and Cross are friends, and I've seen them perform together a few times. This is exactly the type of joke flame wars the two have started in the past.

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james919 writes:
on Jan 05 2008 06:33 PM

Is there a reason the guy mentioned poop like three times in a brief quote? Did he need to drop a deuce or something?

What a disgusting quote!

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eltouche writes:
on Jan 06 2008 08:58 AM

Mr. Show was one of the funniest of it types and a true classic. The role Cross played in Arrested was fantastic, so he has already earned my respect... whether he is an *** or an whiner. Oswalt is hip right now, which is good for him. Personally, I don't find him all that funny, but that is just one opinion. To be honest, I am sure they both care less about this than the rest of us... they are comedians, so ripping on each is no big surprise to me. As for the movie, I haven't seen it, but it probably isn't a quality movie... but look how popular National Treasure 2 has been. I'm sure most kids enjoy escapist crap just like adults do... and can surprise you in their ability to tell the difference sometimes.

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kiwicreate writes:
on Jan 06 2008 11:44 AM

Jason Lee was the weakest part of it: but to give him credit, an actor can only do what the director tells him. Instead of playing to the CG, he should have "been himself" and let the CG'ers work with him (worked for Aladdin and Robin Williams...). I think I'm going to play the first clip where Dave's song was ripped apart to my music production students: I thought it was pretty funny (inside joke...)

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tFowl writes:
on Jan 09 2008 09:10 AM

I wonder if any of you remember David also was the creator of the "Good action figures" in the movie "Small Soldiers"

I love both Patton and David's humor. I'm sure Patton was just giving him a hard time. Even if the movie was bad, like it was said, it's a kids movie. Did Patton really think Ratatouille would be the gem it turned out to be? Probably not, he's just another comedian who wants to make a nice paycheck doing a pretty easy "kid's movie" role.

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tFowl writes:
on Jan 09 2008 09:21 AM

oh and Don't forget Patton did these "AMAZING" films...

Balls of Fury
Wrong Turn 2
Failure to Launch
Taxi (remember, with Jimmy Fallon and Queen Latifa... I'm sure much better than Alive.)

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tFowl writes:
on Jan 09 2008 09:31 AM

oh, it was all an inside joke. I thought that's probably what it was.

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tFowl writes:
on Jan 09 2008 09:42 AM

Yeah one time I saw Patton Oswalt, and he HAD to come out and talk about how drunk he was yet again. Even though I could tell he wasn't at all. Someone in the crowd even shouted something about get him a drink and he had to go into a long wind about how he had whiskey in the back and was drinking back there while he wasn't on stage. (comedians of comedy, came out a few times) Total Bull****. I like their humor but that one dude is right, it's all a big stage act to sell tickets.

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minderbinder writes:
on Jan 09 2008 11:11 AM

"Did Patton really think Ratatouille would be the gem it turned out to be? Probably not, he's just another comedian who wants to make a nice paycheck doing a pretty easy "kid's movie" role."

Seriously?

At this point, I think ANYONE who gets to work on a Pixar film is ecstatic about it and goes into it expecting it to be an excellent movie.

But yeah, this is just an inside joke, the two guys have worked together and it's obvious they're just giving each other a hard time.

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