In Gavin O'Connor's hands ... the few-holds-barred matches are certainly the main event: subtle characterization and deep back-story are not wanted on this two-fisted voyage of the Conlon family.
The back stories make the fights more engaging. If it weren't for the back stories this movie would be just another action/sports movie, and thrown into the likes of the Undisputed franchise. Horrible critic on a fantastic movie.
We don't even know what the back story is about. Loose details are given that do nothing to fill the viewer in on what happened. We don't know enough about the relationship between the brothers. One left with the mom and the other didn't and that was it, therefore there is some profound emotional connection the viewer is supposed to take from it. No. Don't know anything about the dad or why they hate him besides he was a drunk and a vet.
The back story is totally inadequate and empty.
Wow, do you need a picture painted for you? Many of the things you needed to know were in the dialogue and the attitudes of the character. I only ran down some quick things off top my head and they're definitely some fleshed out characters.
-Dad was a drunk, abusive, vet, fighter, trainer, who favored the younger son in sporting events at the least. He is also very strict in training and didn't like no lip. He was a drunk because of his experience as a vet. Trying to correct his life, most likely after what he did to Brendan, and has stayed sober for 3 years. He is now seeking forgiveness from both his sons and wishes to know his granddaughters after his other son who he has not spoken to in over a decade.
-Brendan was the oldest son who wanted to be favored for once but was still neglected after, Tommy and his mother left. He grew up with a violent drunk who did something to Brendan's family (most likely abuse). Brendan's father was after the incident ordered to stay 1000 feet away from Brendan's family. Brendan also wanted to patch things up with Tommy but did not when he had the chance choosing to be with his girlfriend/wife/family.
-Tommy was over worked by his father who trained him. His mother and him were probably abused when the father went into his drunken stupor. He and his mother left expecting Brendan to come but Brendan stayed. His mothers health declines and Tommy watches his mother slowly die as they lived in poverty. Tommy joins the army but his friend dies. Tommy is angry at his brother who didn't leave with him, Father who never acted like a father, army that left him for dead.
Of course if the movie had no subtle characterization or back story you'd all be bitching that it was a brain dead fight flick. The backstory and subtle characterization is what put this film in the top of it's genre. I liked it over Rocky and Raging Bull.
Tom Hardy is going places, hell all three of the leads are in the top of their fields.
Deep? This movie was not fucking deep. There are family problems. Pretty deep stuff, right? And more than half the movie was fighting and they hardly established the story enough by the end of the movie. If you think this movie is deep you are clearly a fanboy. Go watch Raging Bull or The Wrestler or Million Dollar Baby if you want to see a fighting movie with a deep backstory.
half the movie was fighting? ha did you even watch it? Everyone has seen Million Dollar Baby and this movie has such a deeper back story. what i love about this movie is that they did not have to have a rediculous amount of flash backs or explanations in to the past of the characters in order for the audience to realize what has happened to them. They can just see it and feel it. Thats what makes a good movie.
Did this guy even read the tag line on the movie posters? It says "Family is worth fighting for." The movie is about fighting OUT of the cage and the fighting in the cage is more for metaphoric and characterization purposes than to drive the plot. The final fight has NOTHING to do with two guys trying to win a title and EVERYTHING to do with them fighting for their own personal reasons, battling their conflicted emotions towards each other, fighting their past mistakes and regrets, struggling to provide for those they love, and overcoming all that has separated them over the years. This movie was snubbed by the Academy but it is probably because of thoughtless reviews like this that it wasn't even considered for the recognition it deserves.
warrior was amazing, definantly not rotten. The Plot was deep, the actors were extemely dimensional and gripping, A movie that has no hero, no villain, but people. Its dual plot gives it a tragic but underdog ending. Great movie
Matthew Glover
The back stories make the fights more engaging. If it weren't for the back stories this movie would be just another action/sports movie, and thrown into the likes of the Undisputed franchise. Horrible critic on a fantastic movie.
Dec 30 - 11:16 PM
Emin Azeroglu
How can u say that Warrior is rotten. Who gave u critic license?
Jan 1 - 07:55 AM
Joe Clow
We don't even know what the back story is about. Loose details are given that do nothing to fill the viewer in on what happened. We don't know enough about the relationship between the brothers. One left with the mom and the other didn't and that was it, therefore there is some profound emotional connection the viewer is supposed to take from it. No. Don't know anything about the dad or why they hate him besides he was a drunk and a vet.
The back story is totally inadequate and empty.
Feb 18 - 01:34 AM
Justin Lee
Wow, do you need a picture painted for you? Many of the things you needed to know were in the dialogue and the attitudes of the character. I only ran down some quick things off top my head and they're definitely some fleshed out characters.
-Dad was a drunk, abusive, vet, fighter, trainer, who favored the younger son in sporting events at the least. He is also very strict in training and didn't like no lip. He was a drunk because of his experience as a vet. Trying to correct his life, most likely after what he did to Brendan, and has stayed sober for 3 years. He is now seeking forgiveness from both his sons and wishes to know his granddaughters after his other son who he has not spoken to in over a decade.
-Brendan was the oldest son who wanted to be favored for once but was still neglected after, Tommy and his mother left. He grew up with a violent drunk who did something to Brendan's family (most likely abuse). Brendan's father was after the incident ordered to stay 1000 feet away from Brendan's family. Brendan also wanted to patch things up with Tommy but did not when he had the chance choosing to be with his girlfriend/wife/family.
-Tommy was over worked by his father who trained him. His mother and him were probably abused when the father went into his drunken stupor. He and his mother left expecting Brendan to come but Brendan stayed. His mothers health declines and Tommy watches his mother slowly die as they lived in poverty. Tommy joins the army but his friend dies. Tommy is angry at his brother who didn't leave with him, Father who never acted like a father, army that left him for dead.
Aug 23 - 01:23 PM