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Did Mr. Starling actually watch the movie? It was meant to focus on a specific event/time in our history which it did well. SOME whites were evil (the ones raised intolerant and ignorant) but I saw Branch Rickey, Pee Wee Reese, Eddie Stanky, Ralph Branca --- just to name a few (and all white)not evil. And if winning a few pennants and being world champion (1955)is being ruined, please feel free to "ruin" my team.
May 4 - 07:25 PM
Hey Alabama Jim, speaking of a terrible drunk, isn't their another tree on the Auburm Campus you can poison? If the State of Alabammy outlawed ignorance, it would be only suitable for a landfill. Want to make yourself happy? Grab a pack of Ritz, a can of cheese wiz, and a PBR and go watch Roots backwards.
Apr 30 - 10:58 AM
In Game of Thrones, none of the thousands/millions of slaves are black. Except for maybe one that I didn't see hiding in the corner.
Apr 30 - 02:13 AM
The whites massacred the Indians and enslaved the blacks. Even today, people of color generally have it much worse than whites. They have higher alcoholism, diabetes, drug addiction, and AIDS rates. Not all whites are evil, but some are. Also ROBINSON DIDN'T DRINK. HE LED THE DODGERS TO 5 GODDAMN PENNANTS! That's not runining a team.
Apr 29 - 02:29 PM
I live in the deep South, Alabama. My husband and I went to see this movie with our neighbors. All 4 of us thought it was great. Everyone in the theatre applauded at the end. BTW, the vast majority of the people in the theatre were caucasion.
Apr 27 - 08:39 PM
I think it's safe to say that Jim Starling is one angry idiot. There are a lot of angry idiots in the world and I'm sure at one instance or another we all fit the bill. The difference here is that Jim is committed in that he seems to have some conviction about his angry idiocy.
Jim - you are not the only one sick of Hollywood. But your complaint gets a little more specific and a lot more absurd having to do with "movies that talk about how great blacks are and how evil whites are." I haven't come across any films with such a slanderously simple theme or premise. Many biases come out in films - usually of the Director's and/or the Producers doing but avid film goers usually hope for stories and themes that contain in them subtle and meaningful subtexts that are interpretable - maybe even in myriad ways.
I have not seen this particular film - and am not sure that I will - but I'm a big baseball fan (and of baseball's history) and have read in the past of Jackie Robinson's trials and hardships. He was an exceptional individual to overcome the constant barrage of racist vitriol that he was singled out for. Lesser humans would have been overwhelmed and defeated by it. But he didn't - he went on to have an exceptional career and smash the colour barrier in professional sports. His courage and tenacity inspired millions of minorities and non-minorities alike with far-reaching reverberations into every facet of modern life in America - and the world. Simply put, the world got a little better as a result of Jackie Robinson.
Jim - your comments are ridiculous. There are bad white people in the world? Agreed ? There are bad black people in the world ? Agreed ? History is rife with war, atrocities and most of it stemming from some form of discrimination - agreed ? American History's black eye is slavery and its perhaps more sanitary - offspring - racial segregation - the willful racism and second class treatment of blacks - by WHITES. Yes. It's true. Not all whites but certainly the vast majority in varying degrees depending on the geographic centre.
My question to you is - how do you tell the Jackie Robinson story without depicting white racists ? Wouldn't that be a bigger disgrace ?
Your post is a joke. Robinson didn't ruin the Dodgers. I don't know anything about him being a drunk. I do know that he was an anti-drug crusader.
Get over it Jim. I'm white. I'm not evil. I'm not worried or threatened by history.
You should get that racism of yours looked at.
Apr 27 - 05:06 PM
People keep buying into the revisionist history about him supposedly leading them into world series. My dad was there and he saw Jackie sit on the bench the whole game, then get up to do some staged hits. And Anti-drug crusader? Me thinks he did protest to much. And I would tell his story the accurate way, that he was a publicity stunt by the dodgers.
May 3 - 04:46 PM
whites have played the role of evil a lot. for example, africa was devastated by the slave trade which was conducted by... you guessed it white people. only now have the ideas of racial equality seeped into white people's minds and it has made the world better. jackie robinson was a good player and a good man.
Apr 27 - 05:02 PM
whites have played the role of evil a lot. for example, africa was devastated by the slave trade which was conducted by... you guessed it white people. only now have the ideas of racial equality seeped into white people's minds and it has made the world better. jackie robinson was a good player and a good man.
Apr 27 - 05:02 PM
This is essentially how neo confederate racist southerners hide their racism by calling "white racism". You know "American White History Month" racist stuff like that is being hid under this guise of fighting "white racism".
Apr 27 - 04:15 PM
Well circa 1940s southern United States was a giant pit of inbred racist, honestly that's history right there. The film is about the struggles of Robinson facing challenges in both the south and the country itself, while showing that blacks belonged and could be just as good, if not better, than whites. Did you even see the film, because a lot of whites in the movie showed humanity and proved that black and whites can be together, and guess what that actually happened in history. The film is actually good because it plays the story and emotions very well; you must have watched a lot of MSNBC to automatically think just because someone disliked this they be a racist, newsflash buddy this site is for reviewing films some may not have liked how the story played out, and that's their opinion. How did Robinson exactly ruin the Dodgers? The Dodgers after getting Jackie were very good and started winning. Also, where in history was Robinson a drunk, and would that even matter in this film; 42 was there to show him making it into baseball and breaking the color barrier. Honestly, your post just may have been one of the most retarded posts I have ever seen; you truly cannot grasp history or film in general. Some whites in this time were evil, but others showed humanity; maybe if you saw the film and had some knowledge you would have known that.
Apr 27 - 09:15 AM
Seriously? This movie was trying to depict what he was feeling back then, and how bad racism was. And, um, no, people gave it good reviews because they thought it was a really good movie. I personally thought it was one of the best movies I've ever seen. And how did he ruin the Dodgers if he's in the baseball Hall of Fame.
Apr 27 - 03:56 AM
He ruined them by taking away any credibility they had. when he started playing, games started being fixed and fans were bribed so that the Dodgers could get publicity.
May 3 - 04:51 PM
MLB players and coaches were fixing games long before Jackie Robinson came into the league. Ken Burns talks about it to great extend in his documentary series. Fixing had always been apart of baseball leading up to the tipping point with the 1919 series when baseball finally began to crack down on it.
May 6 - 01:37 PM
"Everyone"..? That's a very broad statement without supporting evidence. Can we ultimately ASSUME every ethnic group in the world - nearly 70 million - committed some horrifying act of "evil" on another group? Do we even have statistical numbers to support such assumptional nonsense?
Yeah, didn't think so..
Apr 26 - 06:57 PM
You think that he was saying that every single solitary person who has ever lived in the history of man-kind was an evil person? He's talking about individuals from various groups that treated other ethnic groups badly. And considering that you weren't around for the entire history of the world, I would say that you are unqualified to be questioning his statement.
Apr 27 - 07:16 PM
You're disgusting, Justin. You spew anti-white propaganda (most of which is doctored or downright made up) while totally ignoring the fact that you would have all killed yourselves in Africa had it not been for white men offering you opportunities in the New World. I bet you also believe the bunk about Indians being here first.
May 7 - 09:44 PM
jim get your head out of your a,ss your like flanders from the simpsons
Apr 24 - 07:37 AM
"Ruined the Dodgers." Robinson led them to five pennants and a World Series title in '55. Saying he ruined the Dodgers is like saying Tom Brady ruined the Patriots. Also, I'm pretty sure Robinson didn't drink. In short, you're a racist idiot, Jim Starling.
Apr 23 - 03:44 PM
Wow, there sure are a lot of people who can't shake white guilt complex that has been hammered into them at school. Did you know most blacks OPPOSED integration? Forcing them to mix with us, in a environment unfamiliar to them, was much worse then "slavery" (fun fact, most "slaves" were actually paid for their work, and given food and housing). You guys who are decrying the "violence" done to them probably loved that snuff film Evil Dead as well. I think it's about time Rotten tomatoes installed a blocking program so dumb-dumbs like you guys won't be able to pollute the internet with your garbage.
Apr 22 - 09:09 PM
"blacks OPPOSED integration"
They OPPOSED integration to avoid from being beaten half to death, or hung from a tree by the one of your sick white Nazi pure race nonsense. But MLK convinced them that integration can lead to greater economic growth and better educational opportunities. Black people don't mind the whole race mixing thing. They accepted mixed race individuals when the whites kicked them to the sidewalk. That says a lot about your "advanced" white race, or whatever you call yourself.
Apr 25 - 08:03 PM
Also, yes, the the slaves were paid for their work IN 3 STRIPS OF BACON everyday. Of course they had housing, housing in either the pig ban, or the horse stable. Oh yeah, that sounds like a wonder life for a slave..... *sign*. A slave is a slave. You can't sugarcoat it to make yourself feel better. God himself said, NO civilization should be built on the backs of slaves. That's why the good-ole South lost the fight. God was NOT on their side.
Apr 25 - 08:19 PM
Right on! And why is racism the most unforgivable crime(?) one can commit?
Apr 22 - 08:14 PM
"'Whites are evil' movie"? Are you kidding me? Do you live under a rock? Do you have any concept of how horrific and prevalent white racism was back then and still is, to a lesser extent, today? I'm guessing you're a white guy offended by the idea that white people are privileged and, god forbid, a historical movie about a black man breaking race barriers portrayed that. By the way, Hollywood definitely does NOT talk about how great blacks are and how evil whites are. If you haven't been living in a cave your whole life, you'd know that almost every major Hollywood movie (and everything on TV) is about white people. Due to Hollywood whitewashing, people of color rarely even get represented. Sheer ignorance. You make me sick. Get a clue, pal.
Apr 21 - 08:23 AM
First off I would like to say that I love baseball and have been in the sport for 20 years. Anyone that briefly knows baseball and its history will point out that this was a massive (positive) turning point in the sport! This story is still inspiring young athletes of all races to this day!!!
With that being said I thought this was a good movie (maybe a little bias due to their attention to detail in the sport) However I found it a little too... intense? I do feel like this was geared towards showing how evil whites 'were' in the past and believe this is only going to spur up conflict. I was hoping this movie would be a classic that will live on for years to come however due to the violent, vulgar, and unnecessary racist focus it will not. I understand that maybe some of the events portrayed were possibly true however completely over the top and unnecessary. I wish there was less focus on racism and more on the actual story and the sport. I'm half black and play baseball in college and will hopefully make it a career.
PLEASE STOP focusing on racism as something you 'want' to be reminded of or 'want' to see! completely unnecessary.
Sorry but this movie is racist no doubt... Not as racist as django though... that movie was just sad... btw how does a slave who has never touched a gun before in his life become a sharpshooter... i handle guns so i know how difficult ''''MODERN'''' weapons are...
Apr 17 - 03:12 PM
@Your Django question He was gifted. Plus, Django had black and white characters you hated. Leo and Sma Jack.
It also had white and black characters you rooted for. Waltz and Foxx.
Plus, that was how it was! Slave owners always said, 'Look at that nigga', and shit like that everyday back then. Plus, almost all SOUTHERN whites were evil. Quakers were good natured people. Northerners were also good people. It's just the country people are racist.
Nothing is as racist as the Black Panthers or KKK, though.
Apr 17 - 04:18 PM
So you don't like it because it focuses on the actual problems Jackie Robinson faced and wished they would have focused on just him playing baseball? This is a biopic about the life of the first African-American major league player, not a baseball movie. And frankly, even though I am sure you mean well, i find your attitude towards racism disgusting. If we don't discuss the problem and ignore it so we can feel good now, we allow it to fester and grow worse.
Apr 18 - 02:09 PM
One of Jim Starling's points was, "If you disagree with 42, then you get pegged as a racist."
I think Diego agrees with you by stating this, "You ignorant racist son of a bitch"
FYI - I'm not white, black, nor do I care about baseball. So I really don't care to watch the movie "42".
My girlfriend loved "The help", I thought it sucked balls. My girlfriend would probably love "Brokeback Mountain" too. I would rather watch something like "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy".
Apr 17 - 04:10 AM
It's not that he didn't like the movie, it's that he somehow portrayed WHITES as the persecuted group here. You see how that's a little aggravating?
Apr 21 - 08:38 PM
@Diego, what you posted makes you more racist than anyone on these forums. I bet you also accused George Zimmerman of stalking a man because of his skin color, and lynching him. I bet you also think the Florida police are racist too, because they screwed up.
Apr 23 - 02:49 AM
I do to..So what if it's real? No white people are going to go see this unless they're 70years old. BTW I'm 11 year old and white.
Apr 16 - 02:16 PM
@Joe, calling the OP racist in this thread. Is similar to calling Joe a Pedafile for replying to an 11yr old.
@Joe, please stop stalking small children. It's just sick!
@OP, stop posting your thoughts, because we all know reminding all the blacks to be racist towards whites is the only way the top 1% is going to win.
Apr 23 - 02:52 AM
I do to..So what if it's real? No white people are going to go see this unless they're 70years old. BTW I'm 11 year old and white.
Apr 16 - 02:16 PM
HI JIM!
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IM SURE THERE ARE OTHER INADEQUATE CIRCLE JERKS OUT THERE WHO ARE LIKE YOU!
THE MOVIE IS ACTUALLY QUITE GOOD. YOU SHOULD GO CHECK IT OUT.
THE DODGERS WON THE WORLD SERIES WITH ROBINSON ON THE TEAM.
HE MAY HAVE BEEN A DRUNK BUT I DOUBT HE RUINED THE DODGERS BECAUSE OF IT.
SLIM YOU SHOULD GET OFF THE INTERNET, GO FIND YOU SOMEONE THAT WOULD RELAX YOU AND LAY OFF THE SUBSTANCES THAT ALTER YOUR BRAIN.
HAPPY JACKIE ROBINSON'S DAY
42
-noodlez
Apr 15 - 08:05 PM
Oh my God. This is bad. I predict over 100 comments on this before the week is out. You ignorant racist son of a bitch... I pity you. The full force of RT Trollfighters shall descend upon you!
Apr 15 - 06:10 PM
This is a true story, and dude just so you know, you are a racist. Also, his coach is white, and the team owner. Maybe you should see the movie first man....
Apr 15 - 05:08 PM
Plus, Jackie Robinson wasn't a drunk. His son, who had drug problems, was. Robinson was against drugs for the rest of his short life
Apr 15 - 02:49 PM
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Propaganda? Maya Angelou wrote poems on how whites lynched Negroes everyday. Have you read a wonderful book called 'Uncle Tom's Cabin'? It was written during the days after Antebellum South. I know this stuff because I live in the heart of the south, Atlanta.
And plus, I see you completely ignored my comments on Native Americans. Cool, guess you can't explain that.
Oh, and the girl got off a train filled with negroes. She was in the 'safety' of whites when she lied. The girl said she lied and hoped they would let the negroes go. I remember the name! It happened in Scottsboro, Alabama.
Oh, and here was Emmett Till.
This happened only 59 years ago. Not that long.
http://reasonablydoubted.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/emmett-till.jpg
Apr 15 - 02:36 PM
Native were technically on the land firsgt, yes, but it wasn't a country. The founding fathers are the ones who established the Untied States, and gave the Natives many oppurtuinites to better themselves. and you have a poet that plagerised off of white people to back you up, where as I have the knowledge from my Grandfather that most of the "discrimination" was actually blow out of proportion. but keep drinking the kool-Aid, becuase it's easier then dealing with reality.
Apr 15 - 03:07 PM
And you proved your nothing more than a racist by saying Kool Aid. Of course, the Native Americans were given SOME opportunities. Plus, where did you live? The north, I presume. My grandfather told me stories about how the South was too. He that he saw a negro being beaten for no reason.
Oh, and I'm not black. I'm Hispanic. Remember when your people took Texas and California away from Mexico?
Oh and here are some more proof that white people are insane:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/19/ohio-school-shooting-chardon/1999369/
So let's count: The Founding Fathers, This pyschotic bitch in the article, the Batman kid, and that Adam Lanza guy
Apr 15 - 03:39 PM
You haven't shown anything but your own naivete. You found less examples then I can count on one hand, where as meanwhile, blacks are kkilling so many of their own that it is near impossible to tally them all. And yes, I remember when we took OUR land back from you.
Apr 15 - 04:36 PM
Congratulations, you're retarded. White people are the ones who make the biggest fuss about race, you know. I could care less if a white man says, "nigga" There are tons more killing and massacres that have a small fatality rate.
Also, 90% of America is white. 45% of rapes are done by whites. 32% are blacks.
Okay, so I see your logic on land. So your saying that the land that originally belonged to Mexico, belongs to you!? Seems legit.
Congratulations, fuck-tard (yeah your too stupid that I have to cuss) enjoy your life. I'm done commenting on this thread
Apr 15 - 05:15 PM
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Rob Bailey
Excellent movie, just go see it and do so without subjecting yourself to bigotted assclowns.
May 4 - 07:32 PM