A Good Day To Die Hard

Cody Gomes I really like the way you think...Thanks! Hollywood is just so desperate to make terrible trash with these recent film epics...Do you remember "Arthur"? I didn't like the original but it was very funny and of it's time...too remake it as a vehicle for Russell Brand...ouch! Than this remake of Red Dawn WHY? Why are they so busy rehashing these seminal flicks??? Keep it up Cody like it..

Feb 12 - 01:17 AM

Matt Lane

I don't want a reboot or more sequels, they just keep getting worse. let it die already.

Feb 5 - 12:16 PM

Mick Travis

That was awesome! February 14 is shaping up to be a good day, indeed! :)

Feb 4 - 07:30 PM

Alex Maverick

Hey Cody! You can't say the word "reboot" It's "remake"! Matthew Preston said so. How could you be so stupid, Cody. Honestly, how could you not know the difference between a remake and a reboot. They are totally different.

Feb 4 - 05:28 PM

Chase Nyland

Lol Cody, I have to hand it to you. That was pretty damn funny.

Jan 29 - 10:54 AM

Matthew Preston

This is false. 98% of reboots haven't proven to be total shit at all. I know it's trendy to scoff at trends (lol, irony), but you're simply wrong.

The Batman reboot -- not shit, in fact an improvement.

The Bond reboot -- not shit, in fact an improvement.

Star Trek reboot (Space Trek, lol) -- not amazing, but still better than the TNG movies.

Dredd (attempted reboot) -- Quite good, much better than stallone's, but wasn't given a chance.

Spiderman reboot (but also, unlike the others, a remake too) -- Pointless, but I hated Raimi's Spiderman anyway.

So, no, while remakes have a bad track record, reboots -- so far -- have actually bee a good thing for cinema on average.

Jan 29 - 06:44 AM

Alex Maverick

He said that Hollywood reboots "classics". The Spider-Man moies are not classics. The old Batman movies are definitely not classics. The original Dredd is not a classic. The Star Trek movies are far from classics. And they re do James Bond every ten years so you can't use that as an example.

Jan 29 - 01:32 PM

Matthew Preston

Then there have been no reboots of Hollywood classics that I can think of. Reboot =/= remake.

Jan 31 - 09:24 AM

Alex Maverick

In terms of older movies with lots of fans, there have been a lot of remakes that sucked.

Jan 31 - 01:13 PM

Matthew Preston

The only reboots I can think of are Nolan's Batman trilogy, Craig's Bonds, Rise of the Planet of the Apes (if a sequel is planned), Dredd (a sequel would've happened if it hadn't flopped), Abram's Star Trek, last year's Spiderman (which was also a remake), and I suppose Rob Zombie's Halloween, since he made a sequel (but the first entry was also a remake).

Like I said, I don't know why you're conflating the terms 'reboot' and 'remake', especially after I highlighted the issue.

Feb 1 - 04:54 AM

Alex Maverick

What the hell's the difference between a remake and a reboot?

Feb 1 - 03:39 PM

Chase Nyland

I was actually going to ask that question too.

Feb 2 - 04:56 PM

Diego Unchained

Not many franchises have a main character so defined by the actor that plays them, though. Star Trek is the only one that really does, but I think the new cast handled it exceptionally. But no one can play John McClane except for Bruce Willis... just no.

Feb 4 - 04:23 PM

Matthew Preston

Remake = A slight reinterpretation of a specific plot already instantiated in film. Examples: Total Recall (2012), Spiderman (2012), House on Haunted Hill (1999)

Reboot: The re-invention of a waning/dead franchise by establishing new canon with little to no conceptual interaction with the former incarnations of the franchise in question. Crucial to any reboot is the intention to create a fresh, self-contained series of films set in a re-invented universe of the franchise, narratively independent of previous efforts. Examples: Craig's Bonds, Nolan's Batman, Abram's Star Trek.

Occasionally reboots start out with a remake, usually due to the franchise having a rock solid point of departure from which the series can't truly depart. Examples: Spiderman (2012), Halloween (Rob Zombie, year I don't know).

Feb 1 - 07:29 PM

Dylan Jones

If someone wants to call a reboot a "remake" or vise versa, is it really worth arguing about? We all know what they're talking about.

Feb 2 - 12:24 PM

Matthew Preston

He said 98%, which is impossible without there being a minimum of 50 reboots.

Feb 3 - 05:11 AM

Dylan Jones

Do you honestly believe that there is a difference between a reboot and a remake? Because they're the same damn thing.

Feb 4 - 01:26 PM

Matthew Preston

I clearly explained above how they're not the same thing (even remotely). Casino Royale, for instance, is a reboot, but not a remake. I don't expect other people to be as intelligent as I am. I'm a realist with realistic expectations of my fellow human being. But, seriously, when I explain to you why two plus two equals four, and do so very cogently, you've little excuse for not understanding.

Feb 4 - 04:13 PM

Alex Maverick

You tried explaining, but there's nothing to explain because they're the same thing.

Feb 4 - 05:27 PM

Matthew Preston

So explain to me what Batman Begins is a remake of. What about the Star Trek movie -- what is it a remake of? Go on, I'm listening.

Feb 4 - 05:34 PM

Alex Maverick

This is pointless, but okay. Let's see. There was this movie that came out in 1989 called Batman. It told the story of how Batman saved Gotham from a villain for the first time. Batman Begins is essentially the same idea, but with the origin story told first. If it were the same story, it would be called a "rehash". But instead, it's a retelling of the Batman story. I don't watch Star Trek, so I can't answer that.

Feb 4 - 08:16 PM

Matthew Preston

'Rehash' is a negative term. It refers to a remake that is poorly received. If Nolan's Batman films were remakes, then the first would've been about Joker, the second about Penguin, and the third about the Riddler and Two-Face. They would also contain almost exactly the same plots as Burton and Schumacher's films.

Moron.

Feb 5 - 04:02 AM

Alex Maverick

You're the moron. A rehash is like the Hangover 2. It's the same thing but in a different location. If the Nolan Batman movies had been the same thing as the Burton movies, then it would've been a rehash. And yes, Batman Begins is a remake of the Batman story because it's still Batman. Just because they changed some story plots, doesn't mean it's not a remake. Every movie that gets remade has some differences to the old version.

Dipshit.

Feb 5 - 12:57 PM

Matthew Preston

Stupid cunt, you just disagreed with your own definition.

http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=146941

http://www.chud.com/77961/remake-vs-reboot-arthur/

I'll allow the above links to re-explain to you the very obvious difference between remakes and reboots. The above are only chosen because they're the first things that come up in a Google search. And, no, I didn't create them myself. It looks like people elsewhere on the internet get it. LOL, good job; you're officially dumber than the internet.

Twatteeth.

Feb 12 - 08:58 AM

Alex Maverick

How did I disagree with my own opinion? Enlighten me. I would relish to know the errors of my stupid ways. And I'm not gonna go to your dumbass links so thanks for wasting my time, cunt bag.

Feb 12 - 04:38 PM

Matthew Preston

You originally said that a 'rehash' was a retelling of the story (i.e. a remak). Then later you said it meant an unoriginal sequel and said it was preposterous to say it means a crappy remake, despite that being your original definition (i.e. by virtue of being the same story and not a similar story by way of a sloppy sequel).

Cockballs.

Feb 13 - 02:55 AM

Alex Maverick

I was just giving an example of a rehash with Hangover 2. Rehashes can apply to sequels or remakes you dumbass.(OR reboot if you're gonna get bitchy about it.)

Feb 13 - 01:41 PM

Chase Nyland

No, he doesn't. Matthew is just a troll who enjoys hearing himself talk. Er...reading himself type. Ehh...well, you get it.

Feb 4 - 02:55 PM

Matthew Preston

I just explained the difference between a remake and a reboot, so obviously it's what I really think.

You. Utter. Cunting. Moron.

Feb 4 - 04:11 PM

Alex Maverick

Once again, Matt is spewing bullshit.

Feb 4 - 05:29 PM