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The critics don't like action movies. It is becoming more obvious, critics are only giving bad ratings to action movies so they can increase their reviews on this site, thus eventually becoming trusted. He does not want the consumer to watch the movie.
Sep 5 - 03:35 AM
Honestly? Critics are WAY too hard on anything he does anymore, because they think everything he does should be like Sixth Sense. If anyone else did The Airbender movie, it would have had about 44% and it would have passed. But nooooo, Shyamalan directed it? Then it must suck! Like The Golden Compass and The Spiderwick Chronicles movies are any different. But ya don't hear people ragging on those movies. I enjoyed this. In fact, the entire audience I sat with seemed to enjoy it. Watch the movie for yourself and decide for YOURSELF.
Jun 22 - 10:33 PM
Watched the movie for myself. Really don't see why it'd be 44% in any other director's hands. I dunno about Golden Compass or Spiderwick Chronicles because I haven't seen either, but if either were anywhere near as bad as The Last Airbender, they deserves 6% too in my opinion.
Jun 25 - 09:09 PM
He must be in the middle of a 15 year Ritalin binge. M Night is a shitty director. Sixth Sense has more holes than any slice of Swiss Cheese.
Jun 12 - 02:02 PM
I have hated his movies ever since The Sixth Senxe, except for Unbreakable. I never thought he was a good storyteller. The Sixth Sense is BORING!
Jun 10 - 05:12 AM
Directors don't have to stick to the script, they're allowed to change it around as much as they want. This isn't an excuse.
Jun 8 - 06:25 AM
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Shut up. It's idiots like you that keep giving your money to bad filmmakers so we keep getting bad movies.
Jun 6 - 02:14 PM
I admire you saying you're not gonna let the critics deter you from seeing a movie you think you might enjoy (seriously, more people on this site need to learn from that), but you lose points for trying to dismiss their claims as "they gave it bad reviews on purpose because they don't want it to become a summer blockbuster"
What kind of sense does that make? Since when do critics tailor their reviews based on what movie they don't want to be a summer blockbuster? If they liked the film, then why wouldn't they want that? Because they're jealous? Of what? That it will probably make money? That it's so spellbindingly good that they wish they made it? That just seems all kinds of ridiculous to me.
Jun 6 - 07:37 PM
Well, I guess they could lose credibility with a lot of readers who assume it's bad and therefore anyone who says it isn't bad is an idiot. This would cost them readers and subsequently money. Which a proper critic shouldn't do, mind you.
Jun 16 - 12:34 AM
Losing readership, eh......maybe. Crtics had no issues saying Fast and Furious 6 was great despite the franchise being pegged as horrible.
Still, that doesn't really explain Ayesha's post about how they "deliberately gave it bad reviews as to make sure the audience wouldn't want to or would not go to see it"
Jun 16 - 01:54 AM
There's no question that M Night is in a bad career spot. It's a shame, since Sixth Sense and Unbreakable were great and good films. I think the reason many artists (musicians, writers, directors, etc) start to lose it is a simple function of time and fame. When you're famous people won't give you any peace and you don't have as many chances to develop your art as you once did. for M. Night, this means characters, plots, etc may not have a chance to be fully realized so the end product suffers. It's a shame, because I can tell you that the Sixth Sense was one of the best scripts I ever read, an I've read hundreds. I was lucky enough to snag a copy when I was interning at a production company before it came out. I read a lot of scripts during that time, and it wasn't just a whole 'nuther level, it was many levels above anything else on the market at the time. Scripts like that renew your faith in screenwriting. Another script M Night wrote around the same time is "Labor of Love", which has never been produced but is exceptional as well. I wish the guy nothing but the best, and shake my head at the gleeful haters you see posting on the net. It's sick how people revel in another man's failure. "Are you not entertained?"
Jun 5 - 04:50 AM
With few exceptions, movies work better as a collaboration rather than a singular vision. A great director will filter ideas and opinions from the entire team and keep everyone focused. I think Lucas is a terrible director, but a good writer. He should have just produced the prequels and let someone else focus on story telling and direction. Night seems to be the same way. He isn't for everyone. He tends to take his time with his stories. Only he could have made an entire full length film the origin story for a super hero. Every other comic book movie tries to rush through the origin story to get to the mega battle at the end. I can appreciate his effort to really focus in on discovery for a normal man learning he has super abilities. I loved "Unbreakable" for its ambition alone. "The Sixth Sense" let the story build until that final "twist" moment at the end. Then, does he go and add another 45 minutes to the film to show Bruce Willis acting dead? Nope, he ends the film. This was his mistake with "The Village". The reveal was way too soon and the finale ridiculous. He should have taken more time to tense up the situation then end right after the reveal. The magician doesn't sit on stage and marvel for 30 minutes after the final act. He takes a bow and exits stage Left. I loved "Signs". Again, the simple ambition of an alien invasion movie focusing on one simple country farm family, simultaneously dealing with it's own crap. Any other story teller would have had the family on the run yelling out cliches whilst the aliens pursue (War of the Worlds...anyone?). He had the balls to show a grieving family dealing with possible apocalyptic implications all by themselves. That takes some balls to make properly, and he did. Forget the "reveal" at the end. Most people miss it anyway. The reveal at the end of signs wasn't water. It was faith. That's a powerful message on top of such an intricate and deep story with amazing acting (love or hate Mel, the final dinner scene is epic performing). "Lady in the Water" was too weighted down by it's own rules (only one person can stop the monster... only the one person is the queen... etc, etc). I haven't seen the others.
Ultimately, this is why Best Picture goes to the Producers. The good ones know how to reign in an over-zealous director and control the writer. Match Night with a good producer and he is very good at what he does.
Jun 4 - 08:45 PM
In Shyamalan's defense of Avatar...do live action films based off kids' TV shows ever work? (Remembers Dragonball)
Jun 4 - 07:11 PM
Manoj Night Shyamalan is not a bad director, he is just on the low for a lot of years. You cannot forget that it was he who made the hits Sixth Sense, The Village, Unbreakable and Signs.
Jun 3 - 10:36 PM
The Sixth Sense was the only film he's ever made. The Village was a joke, Unbreakable was a joke, and Signs was HORRIBLE.
Jun 4 - 07:53 AM
I actually liked Unbreakable. Signs, while interesting, is overrated. The Village? Mediocre. Lady in the Water? Boring. The Happening? Bad movie perfection. Last Airbender? No good, no bad. After Earth? Same I'll say for Last Airbender.
Jun 4 - 12:55 PM
The only good movie M. Night ever wrote was Stuart Little. The only good movie M. Night ever directed was jack shit.
Jun 3 - 07:20 PM
I don't consider any of those to be "good".
Judging from your your name Jayakrishnan, you're only defending him to be patriotic.
Jun 4 - 08:12 AM
God are you an idiot Jacqueline. The Sixth Sense was an incredible script, and Unbreakable very solid. How many scripts have you read that makes you think you know more than the collective film community? And don't confuse greenlighting a bad script/movie based on a marketable premise for the film community thinking it was because of a solid script.
Jun 5 - 04:59 AM
You want to really be upset.....I heard his next movie is Avengers 2 since Josh Whedon dropped out................................................ LOL (I can imagine people's heads exploding reading this) Just a joke people. Disney isn't stupid enough to give M. Night Sham any money to make a movie!
Jun 2 - 09:23 PM
How does M. Night Shyamalan still get a job? He should collaborate with Baz Luhrmann and make a film titled 'The Stinker' It could be a series, Stinker 2 and Stinker 3 would be sure fire hits! Signs was terrible enough, didn't any of the producers read the script on that one? The Aliens weakness was water FFS, so what were they doing coming to Earth that has 75% of it's surface covered in...you guessed it WATER! The reason is, this director firmly believes we're all idiots and we will all mindlessly go and see any movie he makes. He has phoned this idea through to Baz Luhrmann who has also taken up this very same idea. As for Will Smith, it's time he did some TV, maybe a new CSI series or they could re-boot the Streets Of San Francisco for him? His days as a major film star are over.
Jun 2 - 03:33 PM
A, they need humans to feed on and earth was the closest. B, they were desperate and thought they could get enough food to survive the trek to the next harvestable planet. I read that somewhere as a viable option to come to a water world. If you think about it that way, I guess it makes the story bearable. However, it does't matter what anyone says about that movie. it was fucking dumb and boring just like the Happening. After Earth is better than both of them. As good as Unbreakable or or the 6th Sense? No, but it is one of his better ones. Also dear Glenn Forskin, only that Lady in the Water movie was a financial flop. After Earth might be also if it doesn't get 200+ million (including advertisements) back into the coffers. To end this comment, Devil was good and I think he only produced that one.
Jun 2 - 04:17 PM
Incredible performances by Hally Joel Osment, Bruce Willis, and Sam Jackson really sold Shyamalan's earlier films. Feature a less convincing actor like Will Smith, and everything suddenly seems retarded.
Jun 2 - 12:35 AM
This is actually a shame, though, because in Independence Day (which I don't think is that great a film--most of the characters are cliches, the story could have been edited and rewritten to fix some storytelling problems, etc), Smith was the best part of that film. He really sold the role for me. And after seeing him in I Am Legend, I would think he would do at least a competent job in a film with a similar concept. Ah, well... I guess I'll see for myself when it comes out on DVD or if it's on Netflix. No way I'm paying money to see this with a Tomatometer rating that low.
Jun 2 - 08:34 AM
Well this is just not remotely true. In fact, Will Smith is a great actor. M. Night Shyamalan has had potent actors for all of his films, he's just a bad filmmaker.
Jun 2 - 02:32 PM
So he was never a good film maker? How convenient your argument is, and completely clueless about film-making as well.
Jun 5 - 05:05 AM
Relying on a twist ending after 90 minutes of mindlessly dull dialogue and plot holes does not make you a good filmmaker. Also, your comment didn't make any sense. Read it over.
Jun 5 - 02:29 PM
Your opinion regarding dull dialogue and plot holes is in the great minority. As are your brain cells compared to the general population if you are unable to understand my prior comment. Bummer.
Jun 5 - 03:22 PM
Hes had a hand in the writing, which is his problem. Pretentious and assuming. Devil wasnt half bad--which he had a hand in writing. What he should do is partner with someone and welcome input. He singlehandedly ruined the Avatar (last airbender) live action excitement. most of the core cast i liked but dont mess with an icon and infer that your ideals and rewrite on the entire storyline are better than what made it popular in the first place.
Jun 1 - 09:51 PM
The only solid film he's ever done was The 6th Sense. Unbreakable was decent, but disappointing. Everything else has been a complete crap chute.
Jun 1 - 08:31 PM
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Jun 1 - 07:25 PM
I haven't seen the movie (I don't plan on wasting my cash thanks) but his movies have been horrible, I don't dislike M. Night, but eugh! Stop making movies please. Last Airbender was proof enough.
Jun 1 - 05:56 PM
So what else is he supposed to do? The guy's in his 40's. Yes class, and before we proceed with our Nursing Assistant training, you may recognize the middle-aged Indian in the back of the classroom as the man that made Six Cents". "Ah, that's... Nevermind."
Jun 5 - 05:10 AM
Oh, I didn't know he didn't make millions of dollars pooping out bad movies and doing Visa advertisements. What else is he supposed to do? That's rich. He can come up with some plot twists at nursing school.
Jun 5 - 10:48 PM
Just what I thought. No answer based in reality. Another whiner that complains about problems but offers no solutions. You probably think that he should just pack it in and live off his millions, which is of course ludicrous when one considers the energy and drive it took for him to get to where he is. You have no understanding of human behavior and sense of purpose.
Jun 6 - 05:30 AM
Nothing is wrong with Night, but the constant "Where's the Twist?" crap needs to stop, from the critics in particular. Okay: to be honest, I have seen all of his films that are available (Praying With Anger is still not released) and will see After Earth, and I love this l'il guy!
Jun 1 - 04:34 AM
Lady in the Water is a wonderful movie in my opinion, both writing-wise and directing-wise. I actually think it is his finest achievement
May 31 - 02:45 PM
I agree and disagree. A good director would read the script first before attempting to turn it into a movie. A good director can see where a script has potential and capitalize on those aspects of the story. Shyamalan
Has always performed his best when less was more. Given too much room he quickly comes apart and disjointed. In this case it is too many cooks with Shyamalan failing to maintain the direction. More to the point this is not the kind of film that Shyamalan should have taken on. I don?t go into Pasta restaurant and order Sushi. Shyamalan is best when he directs suspense movies with action as a secondary aspect. I will be happy to see him get back to doing what he does best, and that is doing more with less.
May 31 - 02:57 PM
Interesting input. I don't necessarily agree with all of your argument but you make some very good points.
May 31 - 03:06 PM
Well said. I do agree with the argument, because after all, Unbreakable is still one of the best (IMHO THE best) comic book film ever, but it is totally whispered and underplayed, his greatest stength.
Jun 1 - 04:35 AM
Why rate something "the best comic book film ever," as though that meant anything? Even if it was, subtract the "comic book" part of your statement. "Unbreakable is the best film ever." No human would ever say that. Saying something is a good comic book film is like saying Ricky Henderson is a good minor league ball player. It doesn't matter whether he is or not, because the minor leagues is where people go who suck.
Jun 5 - 10:55 PM
James Heywood you are thoroughly deluded. Shyamalan is the most collosal Hollywood hack of the last 20 years - by some margin. His only good film was his first, and even that was wildly overrated! Since then his films have deteriorated catastrophically, seismically, into unintentionally laughable dross. His attempts at profound/meaningful are painfully weak & insistence on twist endings drearily bogus. Since giving up on twist endings (his last 2 films) things have gotten no better. He is still eating off the sensation of The 6th Sense but surely that's not going to last much longer. I'm still shaking my head at how much admiration I have lost for Adrien Brody & Sigourney Weaver from their showings in The Village...this man should be relegated to directing TV episodes at best. I suspect that is wear his career may be heading. Let's hope his continued favour in the eyes of studios is not Unbreakable. He was the young bright new kid there for a while but he may have made his last airbender with this one (okay that last pun did not work but I still had fun).
May 30 - 04:28 PM
Oh there are bigger and more colossal hacks in Hollywood. James Cameron comes to mind when I think of colossal hacks. The difference between Shyamalan and Cameron? Shyamalan has lost his compass, where Cameron has never owned or felt the need of a compass. At least there is hope for Shyamalan.
May 31 - 03:07 PM
The hell is wrong with Cameron? He made Titanic, Aliens, first two Terminator films, The Abyss. Sure, Avatar was bad, but not horrible.
Jun 1 - 03:06 AM
No, I sure as hell didn't when I named a bunch of movies that people generally like, made a good amount of money, spawned giant fanbases, got good reviews, and some are even in the national database. Meanwhile, all you have is "I'm just gonna assume it's consensus that those movies suck"
Jun 6 - 07:44 PM
What's wrong with Avatar? It's not bad. It's kinda overhyped on how bad it is. And Terminator 2 was phenomenal.
Jun 1 - 10:04 AM
I thought the story was recycled and despite the special effects, I received no "wow factor" from the movie. It sparked no semblance of interest in me.
Jun 1 - 10:07 AM
Opinions on Avatar seem to be split into two camps. Those who think the recycled and cliche story is forgiveable for the awesome effects, and those who think pretty pictures is inexcusable for seeing a story we've seen before but done 100x better. I personally fall into the second camp.
Jun 1 - 07:15 PM
I'm kind of surprised no one has brought up Lucas. Sure, Shyamalan is technically worse because Lucas has a few more decent films under his belt in writing and directing (American Graffiti, Original Star Wars Trilogy, Indiana Jones Trilogy, THX 1138), but it's the fact that since he has become so successful, Lucas does not listen to a lot of constructive criticism, and as a result his later work suffered greatly--Star Wars prequels, constant Star Wars remasters despite fan backlash, refusing to release the original cuts anymore so that consumers have no other choice but to buy his revisions, making him a lot of money.
As cliche-ridden as Avatar is, there is still artistry in it. The film tries to immerse the audience in the film's world, much like other Cameron films like The Abyss and Titanic. Lucas' latest stuff, on the other hand, feels so sterile and lifeless not only because almost everything in the films are CG, but also because almost all the scenes except the fights are done with very simple, stale camera movements and blocking. While Cameron is trying to make money (isn't everybody?), it at least feels like he is trying to give audiences their money's worth. Lucas' latest stuff just feels like a pandering cash grab.
Jun 2 - 08:48 AM
God are you off Tommy. Cameron is a far cry from a hack. You must be one of those types that is in the anti-cool camp: anyone successful is a sellout and puts out only tripe for the masses. I will give you Avatar, however. All about over-hyped effects but had a pedestrian story. It's a crime that it's the highest grossing film in history. The majority of Cameron's other work is solid.
Jun 5 - 05:29 AM
I'm very surprised to read that so many enjoyed "Signs". I watched it once when it first came out, and I could not get over the fact that this highly advanced alien race, which had mastered intergalactic travel, chose to invade a planet where the majority of the surface (and a good part of the atmosphere) is poisonous to the aliens. Spoiler Alert: I'm talking about water.
I recall that the early part of the movie was somewhat suspenseful and moderately interesting, but I absolutely hated the resolution. And that's the only thing I think about when I hear Signs mentioned.
That plot twist was as idiotic as humans mastering space travel and then attempting to inhabit a planet where 2/3 of the surface is covered by toxic acid, where the air itself contains a significant concentration of acid mist, and where it frequently rains liquid or frozen acid onto the inhabitants.
Also from a scientific perspective, it is asinine to think that water would be poisonous to a lifeform even from another galaxy, since the same building blocks make-up our entire universe. Furthermore, why didn't the humidity affect the aliens? That was some of the worst writing I've ever had the displeasure of encountering. It may have been an acceptable plot twist for a comedy where a group of kids subsequently fights off the aliens with Super Soakers, but Signs took itself very seriously.
I enjoyed the Sixth Sense, but in retrospect, I think it was a mediocre if not boring movie with a memorable plot twist at the end, so most remember it favorably. I've avoided the village and the happening and all that other nonsense. I can't believe he continues to secure funding for movies. While his directing may be average, I have trouble separating his directing abilities from his subpar writing.
May 30 - 04:09 PM
I agree with you 1million & 2hundred thousand percent (although Tits McGee is an odd name unless you're a buxom lass in which case respect- you write like a man - all that & all that too, wow :D. If on the other hand as I suspect, you really are a man..you should think about changing your handle to something like Man-boobs McGee). Anyway, like you said how could the aliens creep around in the corn at night with all the dew? And then to tie it all up by saying that young whatisfella was "meant to" have asthma all along on account of some cosmic purpose, in order to defeat the invaders...LOL!! Dreadful. Appalling!
May 30 - 04:40 PM
L Cruz: "write like a man"? Appropriate that you're on a forum about a sci fi movie, as I'm wondering what planet you're from. How precisely, in your expert opinion, does a man's writing differ from a woman's, I wonder? And why do I suspect I would find your theory ludicrous?
May 30 - 08:49 PM
I agree, Ashley. That comment was painfully misogynistic. L Cruz speaks for L Cruz alone. I don't know about you, but I had trouble deciphering his verbal cluster of tomfoolery. He has no business making any comments pertaining to an individual's writing style.
May 31 - 10:54 AM
The water thing isn't really a problem for me. Considering that the aliens could be nomadic, and Earth was simply the only chance to harvest a significant protein - or slave - population (us), their choice to invade a planet with so much water could have been an act of desperation. I pretty much loathe anything M. Night directed after Signs and still (baffling even to me) love his first 3.
May 31 - 10:33 AM
I thought The Sixth Sense was a fantastic movie, and my expectations were high. The next film was very well done as well, and I liked signs. After that is went downhill.
But even in The Village there were scenes that were very well done, I thought.
So my thought is that in the case of the first two films there may have been people working with M Night who were no longer there in later films...and also he was kept under restraint somehow....not having as much power to do everything just the way he wanted it...
Must have been other influences at work early on, or else success just went to his head...
I think part of the anger towards him is his ego-after all, he casts himself as the person who, by his sacrifice, will save the WORLD!....in Lady in the Water....and gives us a very unflattering portrait of a film critic who then dies at the hands of a wolf.....but STILL, there were aspects of Lady in the Water that were different than the usual and were very interesting...
I suppose that the sense of talent wasted fed by ego makes him very unlikeable.....doesn't he ever CONSIDER he might take someone else's advice or criticism to heart????
May 30 - 02:21 PM
There is nothing particularly wrong with Mr. Night's directing, writing, or acting. The average American idiot is simply incapable of grappling with his ethnicity and innate progressiveness. They can't comprehend a clever movie about environmentalism without the typical kneejerk "liberal terrorist" response that is currently synonymous with how our culture is perceived around the world. Also, for some reason people love to over-hype his films and then blame him for their own disappointment, like he forced them to see the movie or something. Grow up.
May 30 - 02:01 PM
Boy, you used a lot of 25 cent words in your comments. That definately shows everyone how smart you are. Wow wee.
May 31 - 06:08 AM
Hey look! It's my favorite jackass! In Your Dreams, don't you ever get tired of looking like a fool? Or are you RT's least productive troll?
May 31 - 09:53 AM
In Your Dreams isn't a troll. He's just an asshole. Or a jackass, as you so eloquently put it. And if you are offended with being called a jackass In Your Dreams, trust me, it is better than being called a troll. And if you want people to be nice to you, stop all this Armond White jackassery that you pull.
Jun 1 - 02:51 AM
Assholes, Asshats, Jackasses, Fuckfaces, Shitheads, Dumbfucks, and any others that have a cuss word in then are all TROLLS. Some trolls are worse than others. Some are slightly funny or thought provoking and others are either boring as hell or would provoke a fist to the face if the shit they typed was spoken in real life.
Jun 1 - 09:15 PM
In Your Dreams - I actually agree with you. But somehow, it's 'not done' to be anything but negative about him. Sure, some of his films I like, some I don't like. But apparently, it's been decided that he should be made fun of, no matter what he makes. Combine that with the fact that some of his 'messages', especially the one in The Happening, are what people do not want to hear, so they trash it. With trashing the director, they automatically trash the people that actually enjoyed (some of) his films. Also, wasn't the fact that everybody has their own taste a wonderful thing? When it comes to these films, people all of a sudden aren't allowed to have an opinion other than negative. Sad really.
Jun 1 - 01:55 AM
I'm inclined to say... that while I understand your perspective, the issue is elementary to see. While M. Night does attempt to make meaningful statements through his filmography, they fall through due to failures in planning and failures in execution - mostly in the former. It's difficult for all of the human resources, necessary for make a grand movie with a captivating plot and relevant themes, to come together in this industry. And as a result his films have been 'hit-or-miss'.
Honestly, if he focused more on sensible plot and interesting character development, with substance, and less on special effects and badly executed thematic statements, and attempting to conform everything to some ridiculous plot twist, his movies would receive more critical acclaim. If someone wishes to view a statement on environmentalism, they should watch The Cove or something of comparable qualities, not an M. Night thriller...
Jun 4 - 10:53 AM
After reading this post and the responses that follow, I suddenly realize that I want nothing to do with this board.
Jun 5 - 05:42 AM
M Night needs someone to tell him his scripts need shoring up. Disney, which hsd produced many of his previous works, passed on 'Lady In The Water'. I love his previous works, but that one was awful. Haven't seen this one yet, but the trailer makes it look exciting.
May 30 - 11:26 AM
Come on man... Did anyone else see The Happening? That movie was hilarious! That guy just laid down on the grass and let that lawn mower run him over, it was amazing.
May 30 - 10:25 AM
Actually they were running from toxins released by plants. The wind was just collaborating with the plants because that's what wind does. Wind is smart, apparently.
May 31 - 10:36 AM
I imagine the wind was a way for people in audience to know when danger was present, kinda hard to show toxins in the air unless they wanted some sort of animated sequence showing them floating around. I wanted to like the Happening, it had some elements that if executed better would have made it a decent little movie good for non intellectual movie fun. Unfortunately, his last few movies really have missed the mark, maybe try getting back into the business by doing something other than directing. Maybe he should concentrate on writing a good story and having someone else direct that way he can focus more on the story and we may get something decent
Jun 10 - 05:58 AM
this guy made 2-3 okay movies, not even that great. i thought signs was okay/entertaining but not that great kind of stupid, and the nostalgia critic thought the same. mel gibson saved it with joaquin phoneix. hes not a good director, he makes 1-2 okay films out of every 20. sixth sense was pretty good, not A+ material, but was a fluke.
May 30 - 09:21 AM
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Woah. Do I sense a hint of racism in that comment? Think before you post things on forums that thousands of people look at.
May 29 - 09:02 PM
and you're fat bitch. Wow, you must think your cool for being racist.
May 29 - 09:23 PM
What does being fat have to do with someone being a racist? Don't insult people who insult others... That's what we called hypocrisy.
May 30 - 10:23 AM
M Night did write the script for The Last Airbender as well as most of his films. Also, some of the movies are just OK, but nothing more.
May 29 - 07:56 PM
James - M. Night has written all of his films. If it's a writing problem, then M Night is still the issue. He's actually generally panned for WRITING terrible movies, not poor direction. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._Night_Shyamalan#Filmography
May 29 - 01:56 PM
I don't understand the hate for M. He arguably made three great to very good movies, and has some not so good movies that followed. BUT...there are plenty others directors making much bigger crap. See anything by Roland Emmirich--Transformers? Really? But, no hate for him. M. got everybody excited with the quality of his movies. He set the bar too high. There was no place else to go but down. But he is NOT as bad as the haters have said.
May 29 - 09:43 AM
On the contrary, his first 3 movies were still pretty terrible. And there is definitely somewhere to go but down...it's called "up".
May 29 - 10:26 AM
Roland Emmerich sucks. Michael Bay sucks. This does not make M. Night Shyamalan not suck.
May 29 - 10:18 PM
"There was no place else to go but down."
I'm sorry, what? The Sixth Sense was an excellent movie, but not perfect. There was plenty he could do to go up. But assuming it WAS perfect, why does that mean the only inevitable direction he had to go was so far downhill as The Last Airbender? Why couldn't he make movies of equal quality? Or movies that were vastly different, so comparing quality is apples and oranges? Or movies, while not as good, were still pretty damn good?
May 31 - 01:00 PM
Good point, especially about the many movies that I expected getting much worse reviews than M.N.S. If people like Transformers, fine. I love the fact that everybody has their own taste. But somehow, hate M.N.S. is the thing to do. You're even ridiculed if you happen to like some of his stuff. I don't mind if people dislike his films - but I cannot understand why some of his films are apparently worse than, for example every movie with Will Ferrell, Steve Martin of Vin Diesel in them. Again, if people enjoy those, that's great. But those are the types of movies in which the storylines are much more ridiculous (if not non-existent) than in any M.N.S. film - so why do they get less criticism? Different people enjoy different things. If you hate M.N.S. films, fine. Really. But I'm honestly trying to figure out why that hate seems to be so disproportional.
Jun 1 - 02:04 AM
Also, don't forget that this is actually Will Smith's brainchild. And his son is his chosen co-actor. And M.N.S. is his chosen director. Saw a few interviews lately and he actually says a few times that 90% of this movie is him. But 90% of the criticism goes to M.N.S. - I keep wondering why, I honestly don't understand.
Jun 1 - 02:12 AM
Airbender was the film that ultimately ended his career. It is an international movie with a lot of hype to begin with not to mention the insanely huge fan base it already had. The movie had little resemblance to the cartoon and he pretty much destroyed a part of the franchise.
May 29 - 05:44 AM
It had a huge fanbase for a certain age group. Literally everyone I talked to barely even knew what avatar was.
May 29 - 09:48 AM
Avatar, like most cartoons, has a huge adult fan base. Kids that grew up watching it are now adults, the adults that watched it with their kids became fans too. When I have grandchildren, I'll relive it again.
Airbender wasn't just bad for fans. It was just BAD. I don't understand some of these director choices (i.e. Ang Lee for Hulk). Why would either party be interested?
May 29 - 01:10 PM
I beg your pardon. Like what Jonathan said, the Avatar had a fan base across at least two generations, the kids that grew up watching it and their parents. Not to mention even all Asian grandma's love it. What made the series so popular, M Night took that destroyed the hopes and dreams of children and adults in an hour and a half. The Avatar came out as a "kids" movie except their parents and grandparents were into it too.
Ok, forget the fan base for a second, lets take the movie and break it down. The basics of a movie weren't even there. Horrible acting on pretty much everyone's part. Name pronunciations were weird. Casting was completely off, even with the whole race issue out of the picture, ex. General Iroh was a fat old asian grandpa who told everyone funny proverbs, instead in the movie he was a skinny old dude who had little resemblance and character. Even with bad acting and story line, you would expect the action to be good in a kungfu based movie. Nope, the kids at the local karate club put on a better show. The movie made bending look like a bunch of sissies dancing.
Bottom line, M Night destroyed himself with one movie. The Avatar was big and his name was big all over that movie, and it was just trash. It might not be fair that we all judge a director based on one movie, but he took something that was nostalgic, touched and warmed everyone's hearts and made it into complete utter trash. When you destroy a feeling of nostalgia, everyone and their grandma is going to hate you.
May 29 - 02:20 PM
He usually has full control over his movies which means he writes and directs the movies. Airbender being an exception to that. He hasnt done anything decent since signs. 6th sense and unbreakable are his best and people are mixed on signs. The village was the beginning of the end.
Also not helping his case is that he is/was considered and arrogant d-bag in the industry. I dont know if success made him this way or if he was always that way but alot of people WANT him to fail more than i ever seen
May 29 - 12:07 AM
If he's an arrogant d-bag and that's the reason for all of this hate then... sure. I guess I'm just confused as to why he's being bashed. I dunno if it's because he made good films then made bad films, but there are directors who have only made bad films who get no hate whereas Shymalan does. I guess I just don't get it.
May 29 - 03:26 AM
What? "an arrogant d-bag?" So, you know him personally? There are planty of directors, producers, and studio execs that are much more arrogant.
May 29 - 09:45 AM
Most directors don't make such epically bad movies, and if they do, they don't get the chance to make 5 or 6 more.
May 29 - 10:20 PM
James, I can only speak for myself, but much of my feelings about M. Night come from the fact that he did make some genuinely great movies in the beginning. It's actually worse when someone that talented squanders his potential. I gave him a pass on The Village, and even Lady in the Water. But The Happening was almost a hostile movie towards the audience. It was so bad it seems intentional. Then Airbender came along and it was his chance to redeem himself by adapting someone else's material. But his ego wouldn't let go. He had to write that screenplay too. And it was a disaster. Now he appears to be just a gun for hire on the Smith Family ego project After Earth. However, this was supposed to be the first movie that he directed that he didn't also write. However, I've noticed that he co-wrote it after all. That explains the horrible dialogue I've been hearing in the trailers.
M. Night had a promising future. But he let his own ego get in the way of that, and now his movies are an embarrassment. That's the reason for the hate.
May 31 - 10:48 AM
Guys, you'll all missing the point here. My point is, if you're going to rip into a director, there are a million directors that are FAR worse than Shymalan. He's not amazing, he's not the worst thing ever, he's an average director. Calling him bad is wrong, and calling him amazing is wrong. Speilberg has made bad movies too ya know. Sure he has a vastly superior CV but why don't we all stop hating on the guy for the sake of hating on the guy. He made another film and instead of hoping it's going to be good, you're assuming it's going to be bad then slamming him.
May 28 - 11:01 PM
I certainly don't think he's a bad director. In fact, he's got quite a bit of talent (though he doesn't know how to tap into it all of the time). Like the poster above you, Scifi Mark, stated, many people - both critics and average joes - seem to want him to fail, and fail hard. I'm only 37 so my knowledge of film is still fairly young, but in my time studying and watching film, I've never seen people jump on the film hate-bandwagon the way they do with Shyamalan.
May 29 - 01:14 AM
It's not so much that he's the worst director; there's plenty of folks at the bottom of the barrel. He gets ripped because he's squandering a lot of obvious talent with unfinished thoughts. He really could use a collaborator to help him stay focused on the narrative.
May 29 - 01:20 PM
Yes, there are directors that are far worse than Shymalan. Paul W.S. Anderson, Michael Bay, Roland Emmerich, Uwe Bole, to name a few. And yes, Speilberg has made bad movies too. But the difference between Speilberg and Shymalan? Speilberg has bad movies littered through an otherwise amazing list of greats. Shymalan has a consistent progression from great movie to horrible movie.
But every movie he's put out since The Happening I had hope that maybe he will bounce back. He directed a movie based off my favorite cartoon of all time and he butchered it horribly, almost looking like he wasn't even trying. But then this came along and I was surprised how the film studio tried to hide the fact that he was directing this. Maybe in hopes of him redeeming himself? So I had hopes for this too. And it was terrible as well.
I still have hope that maybe one day he'll actually listen to criticism and learn that critics aren't just there to annoy you, but to encourage you to improve.
May 31 - 02:25 PM
Mr. Shyamalan isn't a bad director, per se, but he's overly melodramatic, as well as pretentious (in a negative way, unlike someone like Paul Thomas Anderson) far too often. To make matters worse, the actors in his films are too wooden and unyielding in their acting, much of which has to do with how Shyamalan directs them. The writing in his films isn't horrible, but it's intertwined with what I've mentioned above and, consequently, he and his films suffer for it. Signs - aside from the trite religious and fate nonsense - and Unbreakable were great films; his two best, in my opinion. A Hitchcock-like alien invasion and a non-superhero comic book story were quite refreshing. Unfortunately, just about everything else he's done is just... silly. Again, in my opinion.
May 28 - 10:31 PM
Not a Sixth Sense fan? I find it his best by far, followed by Signs. I haven't seen Unbreakable yet, but the rest of his movies I don't care for(Happening is good for a few laughs though).
May 28 - 10:37 PM
I would recommend unbreakable when you get a chance if you liked signs and six sense
May 29 - 12:01 AM
Give Unbreakable a viewing, Zebraman, it's a great flick. Bruce Willis was especially good in it. Sixth Sense was ok - it definitely had its moments - but the typical Shyamalan melodrama did it in for me. I have to agree with The Happening, as it was the silliest thing he's done.
I also forgot about The Village. While it was a bit too slow at times and the story far fetched, I liked its theme(s), the atmosphere and the acting. It definitely wasn't in the same league as something like The Happening, lol.
May 29 - 01:08 AM
Not only are his scripts pathetic but every performance in his movies are pathetic. Visually really boring but like I said his biggest problem is he has no clue how to direct actors. And how do you know the scripts are bad? What if the scripts are good and his interpretation of them suck.
May 28 - 06:11 PM
I have to disagree on "every performance in his movies are pathetic."
The performances in 6th Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were quite good. Bruce Willis was amazing. Haley Joel Osment was a revelation. Toni Collette was superb. Even Mel Gibson. As flawed as The Village was, Bryce Dallas Howard gave a terrific performance.
But at some point, he gave up trying to get great performances out of his actors. Or maybe someone else was helping those actors in the earlier movies. The tone and approach of his more recent films is so starkly different from those earlier ones, I am left to wonder if perhaps he didnt have some help.
May 31 - 10:59 AM
The Last Air Bender, was so horrible! I waited for months to see that movie and it was very disappointing. I'm not sure if I can trust M. Night after that movie.
May 28 - 05:51 PM
He's not a bad directors . He's not such a good writer but I think his first three films had a pretty good story, he is actually a great director. Love his directing style.
May 27 - 12:03 PM
To be honest, he's never really made a good movie. He had a clever twist ending that made the Sixth Sense a hit...but all in all there wasn't much else to like about that movie, or any movie he's made in his career. His movies are driven by cool ideas but when you really look at the execution all of his films are pretty terrible. Even the Sixth Sense was filled with plot holes, bad dialogue and lazy direction.
May 26 - 06:15 PM
Nothing else to like about the movie? Do you mean other than the characters who were tragically flawed but likeable, or how about the tension whenever a ghost would show up? Or how about the actually stylish directing? The Sixth Sense was a good, tense movie with good characters that I enjoyed watching. The therapist who is haunted by a metaphorical ghost of a failed patient, trying to recapture his past success, and put to rest personal demons that haunt him as well. A child who's misunderstood by his mother and other kids as a freak, coming to grips with a frightening ability while also learning how to grow up.
Yes, the Sixth Sense had plot holes, but "filled" with them? bad dialogue? lazy direction? what movie did YOU watch?
Jun 12 - 04:09 PM
And incidentally, the highest rated movie he's been involved with since Signs was the only one he DIDN'T direct. (2010's 'Devil')
May 26 - 03:55 PM
HE *IS* THE WRITER BEHIND THAT HORRIFIC WRITING, THOUGH.
Because he almost always insists on it.
The problem with Shyamalan is that he's pretentious and arrogant, and can't take criticism; and the creative pitfalls with that sort of personality are magnified when you're also a writer, because writers even more so than other creative pursuits NEED third-party editing and peer evaluation.
May 26 - 03:39 PM
Shamlamadingdong butchered my childhood with that piece of crap the Last Airbender. I bear an everlasting grudge against him for it. I hear there's the possibility of a Legend of Korra movie now... I can only hope Bryke's got the good sense to stave off M. Night this time....
May 26 - 03:38 PM
I agree with you James, it seems like you direct one bad movie and all the rest of your work doesn't mean shit anymore. It's easy to criticize, to do better may be difficult.
May 26 - 02:35 PM
Uh, Shyamalan has directed nearly half a dozen terrible movies in a row now, dude. You should get out from under that rock.
May 26 - 03:41 PM
6th Sense and Unbreakable were his 2 best movies. The rest were crap, especially the Happening.
May 26 - 01:36 PM
I enjoyed Six Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs. I want him to come back to form, instead of making these almost unwatchable movies..
May 26 - 11:49 AM
The Sixth Sense is proof he can make a great film. I have a feeling he'll make another, but I don't think After Earth is going to be it.
May 26 - 12:06 AM
He is really running out of chances. Im really surprised he did this movie to be honest. If this tanks and is a poor movie then he will have to do more independant type films to work his way back up
May 29 - 12:04 AM
Its the fact that he thinks he is saying something by making everyone somber and symbolic of something. It gets unbareable as he continued to make environmental speeches in the happening, and all around slow pacing and bullshit in the last airbender. He is just so full of himself, that his grand statements become overtones rather than undertones. Most importantly, he's just BORING! There will be no will smithisms in this movie, and the fresh prince we all know and love who gave energetic and emotional performances in movies like "I am Legend" will be boring and somber and give speeches about the importance of fear and overcoming adversity and more lazy symbolism that really means nothing. Plus he wrote all of his films except this one.
May 25 - 10:41 AM
Yeah but everything you just described is aspects of writing, not directing. He's not a bad director, of late he's just been a bad writer.
May 25 - 06:26 PM
He never wrote Airbender, he just directed it. And it was shitty in both the writing AND the directing. M Night's a joke.
May 25 - 06:28 PM
That's actually the only one of his film's I've not actually seen. I don't think one badly directed film makes you bad. I'm not defending his films I just think people are being stupid on here. I've never thought to myself while watching his films "man, that's some BAD directing".
May 25 - 06:37 PM
While that's true, I'm not giving this man anymore of my money. He blew it with The Last Airbender. The trailers for this movie have not impressed me at all, if anything I'll rent it.
May 24 - 08:57 PM
True. But Tunnel Rats and Rampage were good. I am sure people would blast them just because they are Boll films.
May 26 - 11:39 AM
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Sep 10 - 12:55 PM