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Mel Gibson Meltdown Provokes Hollywood's Ire
by Jen Yamato | July 31, 2006
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Summary

Mel Gibson, no stranger to controversy, has done himself a doozy after a Friday morning DUI arrest allegedly spiraled into the anti-Semetic rant heard 'round Hollywood. Back to Article
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Witless_Sod
Witless_Sod writes:
on Aug 01 2006 07:46 AM

In reply to this comment (#841278)
[b]Bullshyt[/b]
I call bullshyt on your entire message. When celebrities screw up, it is very rare for most people to take their side. However, when the culprit is, on top of everything, a blowhard holier than thou moralist who should be the last person to wag the finger at anyone else, well the irony is just too sweet. Mel Gibson has always been a scumbag, even before his christian days. However, when he wraps himself up in the Bible and acts as self-righteously as he does, well the sight is just nauseating. He could have killed someone with his reckless, irresponsible behavior, and then he has the gall to moralize others about shyt that's none of his business. And I've been drunk before, but even then I never went on a racist tirade. All drinking does is remove the filter that usually keeps you from saying things you normally wouldn't say. Mel Gibson has gotten into trouble for saying things that could be construed as antisemitic before, but he got hammered pretty hard for it, so it would stand to reason that he would filter it out before saying it now. All the alcohol did was disable the filter and let Mel Gibson at his finest shine for our benefit.


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Witless_Sod
Witless_Sod writes:
on Aug 01 2006 07:46 AM

In reply to this comment (#841278)
[b]Bullshyt[/b]
I call bullshyt on your entire message. When celebrities screw up, it is very rare for most people to take their side. However, when the culprit is, on top of everything, a blowhard holier than thou moralist who should be the last person to wag the finger at anyone else, well the irony is just too sweet. Mel Gibson has always been a scumbag, even before his christian days. However, when he wraps himself up in the Bible and acts as self-righteously as he does, well the sight is just nauseating. He could have killed someone with his reckless, irresponsible behavior, and then he has the gall to moralize others about shyt that's none of his business. And I've been drunk before, but even then I never went on a racist tirade. All drinking does is remove the filter that usually keeps you from saying things you normally wouldn't say. Mel Gibson has gotten into trouble for saying things that could be construed as antisemitic before, but he got hammered pretty hard for it, so it would stand to reason that he would filter it out before saying it now. All the alcohol did was disable the filter and let Mel Gibson at his finest shine for our benefit.


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Witless_Sod
Witless_Sod writes:
on Aug 01 2006 07:47 AM

In reply to this comment (#841278)
[b]Bullshyt[/b]
I call bullshyt on your entire message. When celebrities screw up, it is very rare for most people to take their side. However, when the culprit is, on top of everything, a blowhard holier than thou moralist who should be the last person to wag the finger at anyone else, well the irony is just too sweet. Mel Gibson has always been a scumbag, even before his christian days. However, when he wraps himself up in the Bible and acts as self-righteously as he does, well the sight is just nauseating. He could have killed someone with his reckless, irresponsible behavior, and then he has the gall to moralize others about shyt that's none of his business. And I've been drunk before, but even then I never went on a racist tirade. All drinking does is remove the filter that usually keeps you from saying things you normally wouldn't say. Mel Gibson has gotten into trouble for saying things that could be construed as antisemitic before, but he got hammered pretty hard for it, so it would stand to reason that he would filter it out before saying it now. All the alcohol did was disable the filter and let Mel Gibson at his finest shine for our benefit.


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Now it's dark
Now it's dark writes:
on Aug 01 2006 08:01 AM

[b]The truly sad thing is[/b]
his level of alcohol was .12. If .08 is the legal limit, which is about 2 beers, he probably only had 3 or 4 beers. Hardly drunk. He was just being an asshole.


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Sparklecoon
Sparklecoon writes:
on Aug 01 2006 08:02 AM

The drunk man says what the sober man believes

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ninjaandy
ninjaandy writes:
on Aug 01 2006 08:04 AM

[b]Middle of the Road[/b]
I agree with Tombstone about the alcohol filter.

Yes, Gibson might, in his uninhibited state, harbor dark thoughts about Jews. That doesn't mean that, in his normal, rational state, he agrees with those thoughts. We all have faults and problems that, if we are good people, we struggle against when they rise up.

I'm sure we can all think of something we do, or want to do, or are tempted to think, that we believe is wrong (assuming you still maintain a sense of right and wrong; if you don't, you are far worse than Gibson will ever be), but that we are more likely to do when drunk. Doesn't mean you like those things, just that an instinctual part of you wants to do them.

Are you responsible for that instinctual part? Maybe. Are you responsible for getting drunk? Yes. You are therefore responsible for whatever you do when drunk, because you could have avoided inhibiting yourself. But in that case, your objective responsibility for drunken actions doesn't automatically indicate your rational acceptance of those actions as good.

Gibson should be held accountable for drunken idiocy. He should deeply reflect on his feelings about Jews. His apology should suffice for us to forgive him this time. That doesn't mean we should forget it.

/unasked-for apologetical rant


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geckoman
geckoman writes:
on Aug 02 2006 03:18 AM

[b]Relax[/b]
The guy got busted for DUI and he'll get fined for it. OK? That's it! If he hates Jews, hates God or whatever...that's his business. After all, he is in the US and has freedom of speech. I'm so sick and tired of the media wasting their time and ultimately our time. Trust me, he will be prosecuted for his crime. Now let it go! It's a real shame that media holds celebrities to any higher power--do they really represent everyone? Am I going to think about The Road Warrior or Braveheart any different? Remember in America, we have the right to free speech and this particular speech was not said in a public forum. Where is the ACLU in all this? After defending child molesters, they should be all over defending Mel Gibson. My point is, love him or hate him, we all make mistakes, no one is perfect and move on.


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alsanali
alsanali writes:
on Aug 02 2006 05:08 AM

Anti-Semitism is a sensitive hot topic, especially after POTC. Think about the controversy that movie stirred in the Jewish community. Now Gibson's own idiocy has cemented the public's perspective of him. Whether you as an individual forgive him or not, the fact remains that the general public won't take this lightly. An apology won't be enough to redeem himself... he'd have to join a Zionist movement or something.

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cgcbooks
cgcbooks writes:
on Aug 02 2006 06:21 AM

Mel Gibson was the executive producer on the wonderful Three Stooges TV film in 2000. If my memory serves me correctly, the Three Stooges were Jewish. What does that tell you? We all make mistakes, and the fact is, most of us are forgiving of just about anything. Life goes on.

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Derbeste
Derbeste writes:
on Aug 02 2006 07:11 AM

In reply to this comment (#841303)
[b]good point ninjaandy[/b]
Ninja Andy has a point.

I am certainly not a fan of Mel Gibson. I think he is a holier-than-thou-art pompous prick. I don't like much of his work. I enjoyed seeing South Park rip him a new one over "Passion". In fact, I think he's a bit of a nut job.

THAT BEING SAID....

To say that alcohol is the great revealer of all things is a bit overstated. I think we ALL have demons in our Ids (the unconscious mind) that we suppress on a daily basis. I think we all have thoughts we'd rather not think. I think most of us understand that many of our impulsive thoughts are wrong and control them.

I also believe that what we willingly and consciously CHOOSE to suppress says as much about our character (if not more so) than our impulsive and primal natures. How else can a child overcome a abusive childhood? How else can anyone learn to be better than they once were?

So while I'm glad to see a hypocrite that judges others while is CLEARLY less than perfect exposed for what he really is.....................

I do NOT think that is enough to say that everyone of Mel's past action directly stem from his impulses.

However....I'm still glad to see him knocked off his undeserved high horse.


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Derbeste
Derbeste writes:
on Aug 02 2006 08:09 AM

In reply to this comment (#841304)
[b]Freedom from the law....NOT the public[/b]
You have the freedom to say whatever you want in this country without fear of the law. But when you are a public figure, public opinion is what you answer to. When you want to sell your visions to the public........DON'T PISS THEM OFF.


Politicians CAN say they hate all minorities without worrying about jail time. But they DO have to worry they won't get elected.

The law will punish him for his crimes. The public will punish him for the words he spoke that the public does not agree with.

You said, "Love him or hate him." Well...if we all choose "Hate him", how is he going to convince us to spend money on his projects?

Lastly, The media represents no one. They never have claimed to. They just have the most powerful INFLUENCE in the world. They get the message out. But we make the choices based on what we hear. It sounds like the public's choice is clear so far.

Sounds like Mel is the one that needs to find a way to "move on".


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unbreakable_samurai
unbreakable_samurai writes:
on Aug 02 2006 10:08 AM

Whatever, I like him. And he'll do just fine, he has his own company, so he'll just keep making movies with it, unless they all flop and he runs out of money. I hope that Apocalypto is good, plus if it makes money all of hollywood will forgive him(you know it's true). The press always has to have some one to go after, and because Tom Cruise decided it was wise to shut up and Crowe isn't throwing any phones, why not blow Gibson's druken talk way out of preportion.

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dracus
dracus writes:
on Aug 02 2006 10:25 AM

In reply to this comment (#841298)
Oh, step down from your pulpit you self righteous blowhard!

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Stir
Stir writes:
on Aug 02 2006 10:39 AM

Sooo.....no Braveheart II ??????

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talan7
talan7 writes:
on Aug 02 2006 11:26 AM

In reply to this comment (#841296)
[b]Are you stupid?[/b]
If he said anything dreagatory about blacks he would be written up about it but no one, I repeat, no one would be talking about his career being down the tubes. first off, blacks don't have the powerbase in hollywood to mount any type of financial reciprocity. The Jews do! A few black leaders would perhaps speak out against him but do you really think the hollywood elite would boycott his movies for him offending blacks and forsake all the money he could bring in. The whole reason this whole mess has gotten as big as it has is because he offended Jews.


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horrorbetterthandrama
horrorbetterthandrama writes:
on Aug 02 2006 12:58 PM

[b]what a tool[/b]
i will stick with the classics like the road warrior and lethal weapon and never see a new mel gibson movie again.


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Sleeper
Sleeper writes:
on Aug 02 2006 03:42 PM

In reply to this comment (#841313)
[b]Isn't Mel simply brilliant?[/b]
Can it be a coincidence that controversy about Mel takes place just a few days before his next upcoming film, again? This guy is reading and doing history! He's simply being brilliant at getting attention for Apocalipto! Bad PR is better than no PR.


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Holly Jolly
Holly Jolly writes:
on Aug 02 2006 03:54 PM

[b]will they ever learn[/b]
Yeah, let's 'boycott' Gibson so his movies become even MORE popular!

Just how that boycott on Da Vinci Code worked wonders. @_@


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Paul_Is_Drunk
Paul_Is_Drunk writes:
on Aug 04 2006 08:22 PM

Me back when the Passion came out:

"I dunno, seems like a very weird part of the bible to focus on, especially since it was barely described. I think he's trying to guilt people into religion and blame the Jews."

Friends around the same time:

"He said it's not about the Jews, the man just has deep religious convictions and feels this part of history is important."

Me (again): "It's not history, it's speculation and stories of Jesus's crucifixtion where used in the medieval period to incite violence against Jews..."

. . .

Me, Today: I F***ING TOLD YOU MOTHER F***ERS!


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mpower88
mpower88 writes:
on Aug 04 2006 11:23 PM

[b]Go Mel[/b]
I support Mel Gibson. I like Jewish people, but who cares what he said, if he said that Christians started all the wars (he'd be partly right) and I wouldn't care. Who cares. Arabs start a lot of wars too. If he said that, I wouldn't care either. I mean so what, he was drunk he obviously had problems, and for those who want to shun him and oust him after he apologised I mean doesn't that just show their own seperationalism? I know that's not a word but you know what I mean, I mean I'm calling them hypocrytes for jumping at the opportunity to label and oust sombody. That's what racism is.


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