Five Favorite Films with Dennis Quaid

Summary

Dennis Quaid came into his own as one of the astronauts in 1983's The Right Stuff, and has since been one of America's most hard-working, consistent actors, appearing in everything from Innerspace and Wyatt Earp to Far from Heaven and Traffic. (And lest we forget his gallant, if doomed, effort to hold together Movie 43.) This week he plays dad to Zac Efron's rebellious son in Ramin Bahrani's At Any Price. With the film opening in limited release, we had a chance to sit down with Quaid recently and talk about his favorite movies. Back to Article

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Dani Fenn-Wells

Dani Fenn-Wells

Not gunna lie, I actually really like Dennis Quaid

Apr 23 - 09:50 PM

Justin Sosa

Justin Sosa

What a weird comment. Is it unusual to like Dennis Quaid?

Jul 22 - 05:04 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Interesting pick with Five Easy Pieces, not the likely choice if you're going with a Nicholson pick. Kinda ran out of steam there and went with the Godfather, but if you're gonna default I guess that's the movie to do it to. Good choices all around though I don't think I've ever seen Scarecrow, sounds interesting though.

Apr 23 - 09:55 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

As cliche as it is, The Godfather earned its place on peoples favorite movie lists. It'd be in my top five. I watch it at least once a year.

Apr 23 - 10:03 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Yeah, I just based the opinion that he ran out of steam on the limited explanation he gives in comparison to the other movies. Seems like he was like "OK, that's four...let's just say The Godfather." It's one of those movie's that can't be argued with, despite Peter Griffin's best efforts :)

Apr 23 - 10:16 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Good point, Peter Griffin be damned!!

Apr 24 - 10:41 AM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

It insists upon itself, though.

Apr 24 - 02:49 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

This guy has good taste...

I've always wanted to see Lawrence of Arabia but I haven't had the time yet.

Apr 23 - 09:56 PM

Zane B

Chum Chum

Great movie. O'Toole loses his freakin mind in his role, stellar performance.

Apr 23 - 10:00 PM

Bazooka Jew

Bazooka Jew

Well, you'll have to devote about 4 hours to it. But find the time, though. It's one of my personal favorites as well. Great film.

Apr 23 - 10:00 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Seeing it in widescreen is a must...big screen if at all possible. They just did a screening up the road from me so it plays fairly regularly.

Apr 23 - 10:02 PM

Bazooka Jew

Bazooka Jew

The Blu-ray is fantastic. One of my favorite purchases.

Apr 23 - 10:05 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

HELL YEAH!! Blu-ray all day!

Apr 24 - 10:42 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

I like Quaid but 70's movies... eh not so much.

Apr 23 - 09:59 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_New_Wave

It's called the "Hollywood Renaissance" for a reason. There hasn't been a sustained period of artistic growth in Hollywood since. This isn't my opinion, it's the consensus of film scholars. Go read a book.

Apr 23 - 10:17 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Settle down Francis, I'm not a Val pusher by any means, but he's entitled to his opinion and the 70's movie's aren't to everyones taste. He wasn't stating for a fact that the 70's wasn't a golden age of cinema, just that they weren't to his taste.

Apr 23 - 10:21 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

He may not like the Beatles either. I'm just saying, it kinda rubs against the grain. Film fans owe it to themselves to know their subject.

Apr 23 - 10:27 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

It's not a zero-sum game, Jerry.

Apr 24 - 01:36 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

For every good movie in the 70's there were 1000 pieces of shit. I'll take the 80's over 70's crap any day. Film fans owe it to themselves not to like shit because some douchebag says they should.

Apr 24 - 10:02 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

P.s. Funny how other than 'The Godfather (1 or 2), Clockwork Orange or Apocalypse Now - you really don't see many 70's flicks on anyone's favorites lists. If it were so great, you would think there would be more.

Apr 24 - 10:06 AM

Gimhana Fernando

Gimhana Fernando

I swear I saw One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest on someone's list,and I'm pretty sure somebody put down Jaws as well.
Personally,I think the 70's was better than the 80's.You get Taxi Driver,Network,The French Connection,Star Wars(saw this one someone's list,too),The Exorcist,Chinatown(again,it was on a list,I really need to find the links for these),and the 80's only had Amadeus,Platoon,Raging Bull,The Empire Strikes Back,Aliens and E.T.Some I'm definitely more of a 70's guy.
Also,the 90's were better than both.

Apr 24 - 10:14 AM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Really Val?
I disagree.
I see the seventies all the time on these lists. Janson was right in claiming that to cinephiles the 70's is the last great filmmaking decade. The 80's is a cinematic wasteland by comparison. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the 70's are always present on these lists.

Apr 24 - 10:48 AM

Mark Schilling

Mark Schilling

Hey Val, How about Chinatown? That's a film from the 70's, isn't it? Along with 50 or 60 other films from that decade. If there were a few good movies in the 70's, and a thousand p.o.s. to go along with them, what does that say about the films of the 90's and the 2000's? Multiply the p.o.s. factor by 5.

Apr 24 - 12:40 PM

Dave J

Dave J

The reason why you're not a fan of 70's movies because you probably haven't been able to see all the right ones- without movies of the 70's, there would be no 80's and 90's! I mean, a number of directors such as Coppola, Spielberg and Scorsese even got their big breaks from the 70's! Movies of 1970 are the stepping stone for movies coming out in the 80's and 90's!

Apr 24 - 12:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Val, you ignorant slut. As idiotic as it already is to arbitrarily define movies based on strict decades, you're ignoring the cultural and social factors for why the changes that occurred in this era (actually starting around 1966 with the collapse of the "production code"; which is why Quaid included "Bonnie and Clyde", I'm sure). Filmmakers during this time were allowed the ability to explore previously taboo subject matter - political, sexual, moral, cultural - that drastically altered the conventions of Hollywood. Dave beat me to it, but you cannot go from the "general audiences" type of classic Hollywood to the more modern and mature 80s and 90s without the necessary groundwork inbetween. And many of the leaders of 80s films (Spielberg, Cameron, Demme, Lynch, Verhoeven, Donner, Stone) were directly involved and benefitted from the formal changes of this New Wave in American cinema. I know you're partial to Howard the Duck, Val, but that atrocity of cinema would not have been made possible without the pioneering work of Fritz the Cat. Perhaps, Val, your real issue is less one of quality, and perhaps you're more offended by these liberties of politics, sex and morality that this era represents. I know that Dirty Harry and Josey Wales (landmarks of the era) would be very disappointed in your sniffles.

Apr 24 - 01:13 PM

AHungerArtist

ahungerartist ahungerartist

Calling someone an ignorant slut right off the bat is a really productive way to being a post.

Apr 24 - 02:28 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

It's quite obvious why Jerry has been heckling you, and at first I felt sorry for you but now I see you deserve the majority of it. I'm not sure where you imagined that I said that no 70's movies were worth watching. But as for the cultural factors you refer to, it was pretty horrible. The fashion, the style, fucking disco, awful hippie hair... please. I could also give a shit less about Howard the Duck and honestly have no recollection about that film. It's true that a lot of taboos were brought to film that weren't previously, but it was also the decade porn films came into prominence. I suppose you are gonna tell me those were awesome too, because you like guys with overgrown porn stashes, you knob jockey.

Apr 24 - 02:53 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

He's right in mentioning that it changed the quality of cinema which was on the downturn because of the influence of television on the market. The '70s "turned cinema around" and made people want to go back to the movies. Hell, Jaws and Star Wars invented the blockbuster.

Also, if you're going to nitpick the style and music choices of an era then eventually all eras will become laughable. Look at the '80s and early '90s. Baaaaad. Shoulder pads anyone? Cross Colours? NOOOOOO!

I will say, that as a child in the '80s and '90s, I will always go back to those movies for nostalgia but the '70s produced amazing films (as listed previously) that have stood the test of time.

Apr 24 - 03:13 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

So I'm guessing Val became me, now.

Apr 24 - 03:23 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

@hungerartist - I was hoping an 80s fan would recognize a Dan Aykroyd reference. Obviously not.

@Val - Your judgement on 70s film was pretty sweeping. But thanks for explaining that it boils down to your fear of sex and hippies.

Apr 24 - 03:45 PM

Dave J

Dave J

I think you're missing the whole point about Dennis Quaid's picks- these are the movies he grew up with and may have impacted him to be who he is, which is an actor! Because RT came out in the late 1990's, you can't stereotypically judge whether an movie era is any good by looking at the actors/ actresses and directors who chose to answer here on RT since much of the current crop of people involved in the film industry weren't even born yet, nor have any time to see all of them as more than 20 movies from all over the world are released each week! Movie lists dramatically change over time if more people involved in the industry have more time to watch them, and not all people involved in the film industry are going to express their top favorite films to RT!

Apr 24 - 03:46 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Wow, this discussion really got out of hand quickly. I don't get why we have to try to group movie's into 10 year era's, especially when a lot of the films involved don't fit conveniently into them. Like Janson said there were a ton of movie's in the late 60s that set the tone for the 70's. Quaid even references Bonnie and Clyde in his interview. I know Star Wars is a 70's movie, but it along with Scorceses' work pretty much defined the tone of films in the 80's aside from the big action films by Stallon and Arnold and Co. I personally prefer the 80's, but that doesn't reduce my love for The Shining, Spartacus or Casablanca just because they come from another era.

Apr 24 - 05:15 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

True about hippies, but I actually could dig The Village People.

Apr 24 - 07:14 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

The Shining was 1980 Brother. It counts as 1 for me!

Apr 25 - 07:30 AM

Kenneth Elliott

Kenneth Elliott

Star Wars IV? Jaws? Close Encounters?

I don't know about some of you, but the 70's had quite a few recognizable big-name titles besides "Godfather."

Apr 25 - 02:35 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

Take a look at what Val considers a top notch movie and you will not be surprised by his reaction.

Apr 27 - 11:19 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

Val: Avatar 10/10

You can't be surprised that someone that would completely eat up that glossy cliche mediocre movie would diss 70's films.

Apr 27 - 11:20 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

The 70's had:

Deliverance
The Exorcist
Taxi Driver
Mean Streets
Little Big Man
The Outlaw Josey Whales
High Plains Drifter
Dawn of the Dead
Nashville
Dog Day Afternoon
Dirty Harry
Jaws
Duel
Jeremiah Johnson
Apocalypse Now
The Last Picture Show
Days of Heaven
The Deer Hunter
Blazing Saddles
Young Frankenstein
Airplane
Badlands
The Godfather 1 and 2
The Sting
The French Connection
All the Presidents Men
Annie Hall
Being There
Network
Chinatown
Serpico
The Driver
The Warriors
Krame vs. Kramer
Alien
Rocky
Manhattan
The Tenant
The Look Kiss Goodbye
Carrie
Halloween
Five Easy Pieces
Enter the Dragon
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Star Wars
Get Charter
Animal House
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Conformist
Star Wars
Marathon Man
Breaking Away

Apr 27 - 11:35 PM

zinc alloy

zinc alloy

yeah....AND Flesh Gordon!

Apr 29 - 11:57 AM

Zane B

Chum Chum

Great movie. O'Toole loses his freakin mind in his role, stellar performance.

Apr 23 - 10:00 PM

Bazooka Jew

Bazooka Jew

Well, you'll have to devote about 4 hours to it. But find the time, though. It's one of my personal favorites as well. Great film.

Apr 23 - 10:00 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Seeing it in widescreen is a must...big screen if at all possible. They just did a screening up the road from me so it plays fairly regularly.

Apr 23 - 10:02 PM

Bazooka Jew

Bazooka Jew

The Blu-ray is fantastic. One of my favorite purchases.

Apr 23 - 10:05 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

HELL YEAH!! Blu-ray all day!

Apr 24 - 10:42 AM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

As cliche as it is, The Godfather earned its place on peoples favorite movie lists. It'd be in my top five. I watch it at least once a year.

Apr 23 - 10:03 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Yeah, I just based the opinion that he ran out of steam on the limited explanation he gives in comparison to the other movies. Seems like he was like "OK, that's four...let's just say The Godfather." It's one of those movie's that can't be argued with, despite Peter Griffin's best efforts :)

Apr 23 - 10:16 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Good point, Peter Griffin be damned!!

Apr 24 - 10:41 AM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

It insists upon itself, though.

Apr 24 - 02:49 PM

Bazooka Jew

Bazooka Jew

The Blu-ray is fantastic. One of my favorite purchases.

Apr 23 - 10:05 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

HELL YEAH!! Blu-ray all day!

Apr 24 - 10:42 AM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Yeah, I just based the opinion that he ran out of steam on the limited explanation he gives in comparison to the other movies. Seems like he was like "OK, that's four...let's just say The Godfather." It's one of those movie's that can't be argued with, despite Peter Griffin's best efforts :)

Apr 23 - 10:16 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Good point, Peter Griffin be damned!!

Apr 24 - 10:41 AM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

It insists upon itself, though.

Apr 24 - 02:49 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_New_Wave

It's called the "Hollywood Renaissance" for a reason. There hasn't been a sustained period of artistic growth in Hollywood since. This isn't my opinion, it's the consensus of film scholars. Go read a book.

Apr 23 - 10:17 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Settle down Francis, I'm not a Val pusher by any means, but he's entitled to his opinion and the 70's movie's aren't to everyones taste. He wasn't stating for a fact that the 70's wasn't a golden age of cinema, just that they weren't to his taste.

Apr 23 - 10:21 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

He may not like the Beatles either. I'm just saying, it kinda rubs against the grain. Film fans owe it to themselves to know their subject.

Apr 23 - 10:27 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

It's not a zero-sum game, Jerry.

Apr 24 - 01:36 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

For every good movie in the 70's there were 1000 pieces of shit. I'll take the 80's over 70's crap any day. Film fans owe it to themselves not to like shit because some douchebag says they should.

Apr 24 - 10:02 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

P.s. Funny how other than 'The Godfather (1 or 2), Clockwork Orange or Apocalypse Now - you really don't see many 70's flicks on anyone's favorites lists. If it were so great, you would think there would be more.

Apr 24 - 10:06 AM

Gimhana Fernando

Gimhana Fernando

I swear I saw One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest on someone's list,and I'm pretty sure somebody put down Jaws as well.
Personally,I think the 70's was better than the 80's.You get Taxi Driver,Network,The French Connection,Star Wars(saw this one someone's list,too),The Exorcist,Chinatown(again,it was on a list,I really need to find the links for these),and the 80's only had Amadeus,Platoon,Raging Bull,The Empire Strikes Back,Aliens and E.T.Some I'm definitely more of a 70's guy.
Also,the 90's were better than both.

Apr 24 - 10:14 AM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Really Val?
I disagree.
I see the seventies all the time on these lists. Janson was right in claiming that to cinephiles the 70's is the last great filmmaking decade. The 80's is a cinematic wasteland by comparison. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the 70's are always present on these lists.

Apr 24 - 10:48 AM

Mark Schilling

Mark Schilling

Hey Val, How about Chinatown? That's a film from the 70's, isn't it? Along with 50 or 60 other films from that decade. If there were a few good movies in the 70's, and a thousand p.o.s. to go along with them, what does that say about the films of the 90's and the 2000's? Multiply the p.o.s. factor by 5.

Apr 24 - 12:40 PM

Dave J

Dave J

The reason why you're not a fan of 70's movies because you probably haven't been able to see all the right ones- without movies of the 70's, there would be no 80's and 90's! I mean, a number of directors such as Coppola, Spielberg and Scorsese even got their big breaks from the 70's! Movies of 1970 are the stepping stone for movies coming out in the 80's and 90's!

Apr 24 - 12:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Val, you ignorant slut. As idiotic as it already is to arbitrarily define movies based on strict decades, you're ignoring the cultural and social factors for why the changes that occurred in this era (actually starting around 1966 with the collapse of the "production code"; which is why Quaid included "Bonnie and Clyde", I'm sure). Filmmakers during this time were allowed the ability to explore previously taboo subject matter - political, sexual, moral, cultural - that drastically altered the conventions of Hollywood. Dave beat me to it, but you cannot go from the "general audiences" type of classic Hollywood to the more modern and mature 80s and 90s without the necessary groundwork inbetween. And many of the leaders of 80s films (Spielberg, Cameron, Demme, Lynch, Verhoeven, Donner, Stone) were directly involved and benefitted from the formal changes of this New Wave in American cinema. I know you're partial to Howard the Duck, Val, but that atrocity of cinema would not have been made possible without the pioneering work of Fritz the Cat. Perhaps, Val, your real issue is less one of quality, and perhaps you're more offended by these liberties of politics, sex and morality that this era represents. I know that Dirty Harry and Josey Wales (landmarks of the era) would be very disappointed in your sniffles.

Apr 24 - 01:13 PM

AHungerArtist

ahungerartist ahungerartist

Calling someone an ignorant slut right off the bat is a really productive way to being a post.

Apr 24 - 02:28 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

It's quite obvious why Jerry has been heckling you, and at first I felt sorry for you but now I see you deserve the majority of it. I'm not sure where you imagined that I said that no 70's movies were worth watching. But as for the cultural factors you refer to, it was pretty horrible. The fashion, the style, fucking disco, awful hippie hair... please. I could also give a shit less about Howard the Duck and honestly have no recollection about that film. It's true that a lot of taboos were brought to film that weren't previously, but it was also the decade porn films came into prominence. I suppose you are gonna tell me those were awesome too, because you like guys with overgrown porn stashes, you knob jockey.

Apr 24 - 02:53 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

He's right in mentioning that it changed the quality of cinema which was on the downturn because of the influence of television on the market. The '70s "turned cinema around" and made people want to go back to the movies. Hell, Jaws and Star Wars invented the blockbuster.

Also, if you're going to nitpick the style and music choices of an era then eventually all eras will become laughable. Look at the '80s and early '90s. Baaaaad. Shoulder pads anyone? Cross Colours? NOOOOOO!

I will say, that as a child in the '80s and '90s, I will always go back to those movies for nostalgia but the '70s produced amazing films (as listed previously) that have stood the test of time.

Apr 24 - 03:13 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

So I'm guessing Val became me, now.

Apr 24 - 03:23 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

@hungerartist - I was hoping an 80s fan would recognize a Dan Aykroyd reference. Obviously not.

@Val - Your judgement on 70s film was pretty sweeping. But thanks for explaining that it boils down to your fear of sex and hippies.

Apr 24 - 03:45 PM

Dave J

Dave J

I think you're missing the whole point about Dennis Quaid's picks- these are the movies he grew up with and may have impacted him to be who he is, which is an actor! Because RT came out in the late 1990's, you can't stereotypically judge whether an movie era is any good by looking at the actors/ actresses and directors who chose to answer here on RT since much of the current crop of people involved in the film industry weren't even born yet, nor have any time to see all of them as more than 20 movies from all over the world are released each week! Movie lists dramatically change over time if more people involved in the industry have more time to watch them, and not all people involved in the film industry are going to express their top favorite films to RT!

Apr 24 - 03:46 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Wow, this discussion really got out of hand quickly. I don't get why we have to try to group movie's into 10 year era's, especially when a lot of the films involved don't fit conveniently into them. Like Janson said there were a ton of movie's in the late 60s that set the tone for the 70's. Quaid even references Bonnie and Clyde in his interview. I know Star Wars is a 70's movie, but it along with Scorceses' work pretty much defined the tone of films in the 80's aside from the big action films by Stallon and Arnold and Co. I personally prefer the 80's, but that doesn't reduce my love for The Shining, Spartacus or Casablanca just because they come from another era.

Apr 24 - 05:15 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

True about hippies, but I actually could dig The Village People.

Apr 24 - 07:14 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

The Shining was 1980 Brother. It counts as 1 for me!

Apr 25 - 07:30 AM

Kenneth Elliott

Kenneth Elliott

Star Wars IV? Jaws? Close Encounters?

I don't know about some of you, but the 70's had quite a few recognizable big-name titles besides "Godfather."

Apr 25 - 02:35 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

Take a look at what Val considers a top notch movie and you will not be surprised by his reaction.

Apr 27 - 11:19 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

Val: Avatar 10/10

You can't be surprised that someone that would completely eat up that glossy cliche mediocre movie would diss 70's films.

Apr 27 - 11:20 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

The 70's had:

Deliverance
The Exorcist
Taxi Driver
Mean Streets
Little Big Man
The Outlaw Josey Whales
High Plains Drifter
Dawn of the Dead
Nashville
Dog Day Afternoon
Dirty Harry
Jaws
Duel
Jeremiah Johnson
Apocalypse Now
The Last Picture Show
Days of Heaven
The Deer Hunter
Blazing Saddles
Young Frankenstein
Airplane
Badlands
The Godfather 1 and 2
The Sting
The French Connection
All the Presidents Men
Annie Hall
Being There
Network
Chinatown
Serpico
The Driver
The Warriors
Krame vs. Kramer
Alien
Rocky
Manhattan
The Tenant
The Look Kiss Goodbye
Carrie
Halloween
Five Easy Pieces
Enter the Dragon
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Star Wars
Get Charter
Animal House
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Conformist
Star Wars
Marathon Man
Breaking Away

Apr 27 - 11:35 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Settle down Francis, I'm not a Val pusher by any means, but he's entitled to his opinion and the 70's movie's aren't to everyones taste. He wasn't stating for a fact that the 70's wasn't a golden age of cinema, just that they weren't to his taste.

Apr 23 - 10:21 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

He may not like the Beatles either. I'm just saying, it kinda rubs against the grain. Film fans owe it to themselves to know their subject.

Apr 23 - 10:27 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

It's not a zero-sum game, Jerry.

Apr 24 - 01:36 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Great list!

My five favorite Dennis Quaid movies:
1. The Right Stuff
2. Enemy Mine
3. Breaking Away
4. The Big Easy
5. Any Given Sunday

Apr 23 - 10:23 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Good list, I'd probably only substitute Postcards from the Edge and Inner Space with Any Given Sunday and Enemy Mine, which I've never seen the charm of.

Apr 23 - 10:27 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Both of those are very close, as is "Long Riders" and "Flesh and Bone".

Apr 24 - 01:20 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

By no means a best movie list, but more of an honorable mention: Innerspace, Dragonheart, Dreamscape.

Apr 24 - 10:08 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"Dreamscape" is a personal favorite. I am a softie for 80s sci/fi. But it really isn't a very good movie in retrospect.

Apr 24 - 01:21 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

But, your insult wasn't anywhere thus disproving your point and no number of made up hypothetical scenerio's are going to make your point any better. Bottom line, two commenters with a shared history where discussing opposing views on different era's of film history, one used a pop culture reference that straddled the two era's to emphasize his point and a bunch of people who had nothing to do with the initial conversation didn't get the reference and made a stink about it. They were educated and for some reason one of them continues to harp on it in an effort I guess to eliminate pop culture references from the internet. That's the situation we're dealing with, that and nothing else.

Apr 30 - 07:28 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Above comment is for Dave J below...it's here because I'm tired of scrolling through dozens of comments.

Apr 30 - 07:29 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

In regards to your last paragraph Dave and then I'm done because I suspect you may be taking the piss here now. Should all the people who got the joke have to forego their enjoyment of it because you or anyone else didn't "get it". If that's your point I'll refer you back to my George Takai quote because you've crossed to line from ignorant into FCC territory there. No one should have to dumb down their dialog for fear that people won't get it. I find the insinuation that they should offensive on a forum dedicated to the art of film.

Apr 30 - 07:33 PM

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infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Can you call him an ignorant slut, now?

Seriously though, the snake monster in Dreamscape was terrifying.

Apr 24 - 03:02 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Seriously, no one here is a Dan Aykroyd fan?

Apr 24 - 03:47 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Fan? No. I do appreciate his early work. When explains the anti-air gun to the homeowner in 1941, that is classic Aykroyd, but now he is a fucking blowhard that can't buy a laugh.

Apr 24 - 04:00 PM

Bazooka Jew

Bazooka Jew

I like his UFO doc.

Apr 24 - 04:01 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Eh, I preferred Bill Murray until Zombieland.

Apr 24 - 04:01 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

OK, "ignorant slut" is a comical reference to Aykroyd. Gosh, I sure hope Val can recover...

Apr 24 - 04:04 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Janson, you call for civil discussion on this board all the time. Then your next post people are bitches and ignorant sluts. THEN we're all idiots for not getting the reference. Referencing the Big Lebowski, people get it because its well known in the movie nerd circle.

Referencing an old ass SNL sketch that no one remembers, makes people think you're just calling them an ignorant slut.

Apr 24 - 04:47 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Since "Ignorant slut" is not obvious to the average user unless that person were to have a photographic memory than it's deemed as offensive if it's not mentioned as an Ackroyd comical reference beforehand because he can do the same to you by calling you "a butt-faced, pompous jerk" without mentioning that it came from "Parks & Recreation"! In my opinion at least you owe Val an apology!

Apr 24 - 04:53 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Uh oh, Janson, you need to apologize to Val. Plus, ignorant slut has been used a million times and no one can pinpoint exactly where it originated. So it is fairly reasonable to assume that you're personally insulting him. If you used an obviously famous line like, "You should clone yourself/So you can fuck yourself" Then, people would have thought you're joking around and not a pissy bitch.

Looks like people are backstabbers though. *cough* Infernal Dude *cough*. Plus, Infernal Dude, are we done with the sitcom?

Apr 24 - 04:57 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Not to comment on the other portion of the arguments, but "Jane, you ignorant slut" is a pretty common pop culture reference. It's from the original Weekend Update on SNL with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin. To paraphrase Forrest Gump "It's pretty much a household phrase" at least to anyone who's a fan of good comedy or was born before 1990.

Apr 24 - 05:09 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

A couple of points: First off, after my (unfortunate or not) ignorant slut comment, I offered about as substantial a discussion starter for the particular era of films that we're discussing, the one dominating Quaid's selections. I'm happy to continue discussing the historical aspects of the era.

Second, Val (who is actually far more amusing to me than, say, Jerry) frequents in a similar currency of course language, so I admit that it's my fault for thinking his skin might be a little thicker. But Dylan was right (you break just like a little girl). [and that's a joke too, so walk it off, Val]

Now for Jerry, I have no idea what anyone was calling you back in 2008 because I wasn't around here at that time. And I'm not offended by anyone's jokes toward me. What I object concerning yourself is your creepy behavior. If you had half a wit, maybe you'd be more tolerable.

Getting back to the central issue, as I said, I'm still open to discussing the imprtance and role of the American New Wave, which I'm fully prepared to defend, while even keeping my jokes above the standard of 30 year old late-night humor if so be it, just as I'm also prepared to defend any of my favorite film epochs, such as German expressionism, Italian neo-realism, French New Wave, samurai films and spagetti westerns. I am but a humble slave to the glory of celluloid.

Apr 24 - 05:39 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Creepy behavior? I'm a fuckin troll. I do whatever the fuck I wanna do. I try to offend, scare, and hurt people. Don't you understand? The creepy behavior is a trolling method. I swore I would never troll ever again.

As for your other topic, (BTW, my name isn't Jerry. It's Jay) if you had said "Val, you ignorant slut -Dan Akroyd everyone would have got the joke

Apr 24 - 05:52 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Trust me, Janson and I have had our disagreements. I just calls em as I sees em. Your trolling was alarming at first but then I realized you were the demon Cutler reincarnated and I remembered the absurdity of your existence thus embracing the chaos you bring. You're like that neighbor with the cars parked in your yard and the tv on too loud that everyone hates at first but then you start to accept that they're kind of a d bag, but they're our d bag.

I do think Janson makes good points, but his points are often barbed and he wonders why people react the way they do. Why did you have to say, "go read a book" to Val? Thats clearly a negative statement that greatly reduces whatever point you're trying to make. And you were worried about the Facebookers? Please.

As for the sitcom. We're in development hell here. I would say its a wash. W/o Janson on board the volatile chemistry just isn't there. It's like Big Bang w/o Sheldon. I think I'm going to go back to producing low brow late night Skinemax and Asylum films. The Land of the Hobbits 2: An Unexpected Event of Some Nature Again is ripe for the plucking!

Apr 24 - 06:05 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Aw man, no sitcom!? Please, Janson, join the cast. I'm broke. I need the money.

Apr 24 - 06:13 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I probably shouldn't post after watching the Jeselnik Offensive. I don't even really like the show. Other than that, I just thought Val was the type who could handle a barb or two.

(Nice backhanded Sheldon comparison. B for effort)

Apr 24 - 06:15 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

All of this because I said I wasn't a big fan of 70's movies? I wasn't even trolling for fucks sake!

Apr 24 - 07:17 PM

Dave J

Dave J

I just want to say to "Big Brother" that it's na´ve to assume if you said nor called any of your so-called girlfriends/ relationships "Jane - you ignorant slut"- that they're immediately going to know where you got that from! Since they're many sophisticated attractive girls who don't watch a heck of a lot of TV nor watch a heck of a lot of movies when all they do is read and study doing there own thing! I'm just saying that it's only a popular phrase as long as you allow it to be!

Apr 25 - 04:33 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

OK Dave J, as usual you're living in Dave J land. It's a popular phrase because it's part of popular culture hence why popular is part of both. Even if someone had never seen Star Wars, I know a girl who hasn't, they still get what people are talking about when you say "Use the Force, Luke". Also, most of the women I date are smart enough to pick up from the context that I'm quoting something, even if they aren't familiar with exactly what I'm quoting and a simple "what's that from" keeps it from turning into a full fledged tiff like this has become. Seriously, google "You ignorant slut" and I bet you a dozen clips will come up of Dan Ackroyd. Another popular quote comes to mind after this discussion. Screw y'all if ya can't take a joke.

Apr 25 - 05:14 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Actually, it's more like the other way around for it's Big Brother living in Big Brother land whereas I don't continue to live in that era no matter how popular that phrase used to be! And my other point is that "Use the Force, Luke" is not the same as calling someone an "ignorant slut" especially on-line! I mean, to you it's obvious from the get-go since you were part of it, but to me I had to "Google" that first to get what Janson was saying, nor is that phrase obvious to most other users here since more than half of the users weren't even born during the time when it was even said at all! You have to understand that the way he initially stated it is not under the same circumstance as when Ackroyd said it since the situations are entirely different!

I mean, do people still use that phrase right now? Possible, but unlikely if you're trying to build a proper rapport with someone such as your boss for instance who are unfamiliar with well known phrases, and to me to quote TV and movie phrases you don't quite know whether other people will "get it" is na´ve and dangerous especially when it comes to conversing with world leaders!

Apr 25 - 05:42 PM

Dave J

Dave J

And define "joke" in the context of how Janson used it is acceptable according to you is nuts! Since when was it okay to insult people by using popular phrases from the 70's 80 or 90's for that matter? Would you be able to get it if I called you any offensive name I got from a movie or tv which may not have anything to do with the point I'm making?

Apr 25 - 05:50 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Dave, you pompous ass, you're not trying to build a rapport with your boss, or talking to your girlfriend conversing with a world leader or whatever made up situation you dream up to make this offensive. It's two people chatting on a pop culture website in which one of them used a popular pop culture reference for comedic shock value (gasp, just like Dan Ackroyd did back on SNL in 1977 the same year Star Wars came out). If you want people on an entertainment website to stop using pop culture references you really are living in Dave J world. Get over it or get smarter on the subject, these are your two options as I see them.

Apr 25 - 05:54 PM

Dave J

Dave J

So, what you're saying is that "if" it's a reference to pop culture than people have to do their homework even though "they" shouldn't even have to I feel is asking for a lot! You and Janson get it and everyone else is dumb... right you ignorant slut! This is still not proper English nor is it part of proper conversation regardless where it came from nor how popular it used to be!

Apr 25 - 06:13 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"World leaders"....I'm starting to get the feeling that Dave J is actually Kim Jong Un.

Apr 25 - 06:17 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Just these comments alone reminded me of a Simpsons episode when Bart became famous for saying "I didn't do it" and that his fame would only last for so long!

Apr 25 - 06:17 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"Proper english". That's funny.

"Washday tomorrow. Nothing clean, right?"

Apr 25 - 06:19 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

No, what I'm saying is that on this forum a certain level of pop culture knowledge is a general prerequisite and if you're too lazy to educate yourself your ignorance deserves the offense. It actually is proper English, there's nothing wrong with the format of the sentence, the content may offend you, but it's still proper English. Also, I find it particularly funny that whilst being offended you actually committed the offense you were railing against. You didn't even use the quote right. You'd think the copious explanations given would have relieved any offense by now, but nooooooooo.

Apr 25 - 06:19 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Look, I'm going to make this plain and simple, not everyone is going to "get" 1970's pop culture- that is just arrogant!

Apr 25 - 06:28 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

OK, I'll cave. If you sweet bitches can't take a joke, well, excuuuuuuuuuuusssssse ME!

Apr 25 - 06:29 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Look, not everyone has to. The funny thing here is Val, the guy the comment was directed to, didn't even mention it as offensive. Being offended on someones behalf because you didn't understand something, that's arrogant AND ignorant. Where's the uproar over use of the term "knob jockey"? Where's your sense of moral outrage there? It's hilarious to me that you're this offended that someone would be rude on the internet, but please if you're that dedicated to being mortified for poor, defenseless Val, delicate flower that we all know him to be :). Carry on.

Apr 25 - 06:31 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Please Dave, google the damn reference so you at least understand the joke. It's intended to be a humorous way of showing you vehemently disagree with someone. You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of understanding here.

Apr 25 - 06:40 PM

Dave J

Dave J

God....news flash, where does it say on RT that calling an unknown user an "ignorant slut" is a direct reference to 1970's pop culture, besides learning it from Big Brother and Janson? And where did anyone here say that users were coming to Val's defense because people felt bad for poor Val? I mean WTF man, why do "users" have to "Google" something that would've been deemed as offensive if "it's" said to someone directly to another person in real life? You assume that everyone have to "get it" just because it's there for people to Google is arrogant! F-ck man, I wouldn't even use that term no matter who I meet regardless what era it's from- that's just silly and stupid!

It may be funny when Dan Ackroyd used it at that particular time of that sketch or many sketches for that matter, but I highly doubt you found it funny when Janson used it in those terms when he was trying to make a point-for it can overshadow the point he was making! You can't convince me because a lot of things were said during the 1970's- it doesn't mean you can use those phrases on here! And I'm done discussing this since you semantically look at this one way while I looked at this as being something else!

Apr 25 - 06:55 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Because that's the joke Dave, I really can't believe you don't get this. It's assumed that people who are familiar with the joke, a fair assumption on a forum like this, will see the humor and laugh. The problem comes when people who don't get it, like yourself obviously, decide to be offended and make a big deal out of it from a place of ignorance and belabor the point even when it's been explained to them in gratuitous detail. I can think of a thousand other movie quotes where this is going to apply if people take the same stance as you and are similarly uninformed. "Shut the Fuck up Donnie", "Frankly my dead I don't give a damn", "Where all da white women at?" "The next one of you primitive fucks...", "You talk like you're smart, but you're stupid", "Stupid is as stupid does" anyone of them in the proper context can be used for humourous effect, but apparently Dave J is now the moderator for decorum on RT, so I defer to you good Sir since you are obviously more qualified than I and my uncouth ilk.

Apr 25 - 07:06 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Val is not an "unknown user". He's been posting here as long as I have, and I've learned from his posts that he was around in the 70s to be be able to know what the reference was. My only regret is that his offense over my calling him an ignorant slut may overshadow my intended offense that it's terribly stupid to dismiss an entire decade of films, especially one that is historically considered a renaissance. I could say I hate American literature of the 1920s (too much Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Steinbeck and Faulkner), but I imagine that if I wanted to be taken seriously, I better have a sound and novel argument for that opinion.

Apr 25 - 08:34 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Well, everybody knows Fitzgerald was an ignorant slut, Hemingway was a pompous ass, Steinbeck was always starting with me and you'd think Faulkner would be better, but noooooooooo!!!

Apr 25 - 09:09 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Well, when I said an "unknown" user, I meant that the only thing we know about one another is that we all watch films- that is all- for RT is not like "Facebook" where both personal and private information can be viewed for the world to see! I didn't say "new" user!

And Janson- it would've helped me, along with others if you added that it was from an SNL skit beforehand at that particular time, because in real life if someone were to verbally call someone that term or anyone else for that matter, would've motivate that person to clock that person in the face! It may have been clever if you added that extra bit of information so that other users including me wouldn't have to react to it as we did, but as you said earlier- it is what it is!

Apr 26 - 01:15 PM

King  S.

King Simba

For once I have to go with Dave J. Maybe the phrase "You ignorant slut" is more popular in some places than others, but I can't remember EVER hearing the phrase before (and if someone did use it I probably just assumed it was an insult rather than a movie reference). I mean the fact that even on a movie board few got the reference tells you it's just not that well known.

I mean use phrases like "Use the Force, Luke" "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" "A martini, shaken not stirred" "E.T phone home" with anyone on the street and they'd automatically get the reference. You just can't say the same about "Jane, you ignorant slut".

Apr 27 - 12:28 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

OK. I'm sorry. I meant to say that Val is a retarded sodomite. Forgive me for the confusion.

Apr 28 - 07:08 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

"If we can't laugh at ourselves and at one another, in good spirit and without malice, then what fun can be left? If we must withold all ribbing in the name of protecting everyone's feelings, then we truly are a toothless society. We will reach what I call the lowest common denominator of butthurt" - George Takai

Apr 28 - 07:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Dave J = Jackie Wilson

Apr 29 - 01:52 PM

Dave J

Dave J

The only thing proved here is that calling an unknown user an "ignorant slut" was not funny to a specific user until after other users reacted to it! I mean, it's not like Janson was always courteous and clever whenever it comes to replying peoples comments on-line for theirs also a good chance you would not have picked up on it had Janson called Val something else! Furthermore, would it make any difference "if" they're other derogatory offensive names called by Janson also "possible" references from films as well as other sources, and would it even matter! I can clearly see the hypocrisy here!

Apr 29 - 02:05 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Nope, wouldn't have mattered to me in the least. I might have been initially offended if I didn't get it, but I would have quickly gotten over it when it was explained to me and appreciated learning something new rather than trying to force an apology for something that clearly wasn't meant to offend.

Apr 29 - 04:47 PM

Dave J

Dave J

I guess between Janson and you we'll never know, will we!

"Ahem, when I called you an ignorant f-ckhead pedophile and molester- my intent was supposed to be from an awesome movie I saw before to which I forgot the name... so don't get so uptight about it and lighten up about it... as a matter of fact- suck it up!"

Apr 29 - 05:51 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Please Dave J, find me the movie that uses "ignorant fuckhead pedophile molester" for comedic value and I'll immediately issue you an apology...oh wait, you can't because it doesn't exist because shockingly there's a difference in comedic skills between Dave J and an in his prime Dan Ackroyd. That's the funny thing, I still don't think you get the joke based on your arguments which is just sad. P.S. no one forgot the name of the show "Jane, you ignorant slut" came from. SNL Weekend update, used multiple occasions from 1978-1980 please google it, watch it and tell me it's not comedic gold...or just keep wallowing in ignorance, being butthurt and generally having a miserable time ... because that's clearly the better option for you. In fact, please anyone watch it and then we can have a more useful debate.

Apr 29 - 06:10 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

I get what you're saying Simba, but as someone who's very rational, have you watched clips of where the quote comes from and if so, can you clearly say it's not hilarious and furthermore can you not see how in a conversation about which decade was superior the 70s or 80's an assumption could be made that the key players would get a quote from from a comedy show widely popular during that time with a quote from a segment that ran from 1978-1980?

Apr 29 - 06:14 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Also, Dave J. Explain to me if you would randomly throwing a bunch of insults together and referencing a joke from the era in discussion from a debate show and using said quote to illustrate your disagreement with someone just like the initial quote was used for. I just want you to do this so I can be sure you understand what we're discussing here. It's the difference between saying "you're a cocksucking asshole" and "Shut the Fuck up Donnie". One is just being a jerk, the other is a popular quote from a movie often used by movie nerds for comedic effect. Do you see and can you acknowledge the difference. If not, I give up.

Apr 29 - 06:41 PM

Dave J

Dave J

That's exactly my point Big Brother! It shouldn't be a difference because every insult and vulger name can be found on any film or book if someone were to look hard enough because whether it's intended for comedic purposes or not should not make any difference at all because it would mean that someone would have to look outside the realm of rottentomatoes which "no" one including you should not have to do!

It's like if someone were to excuse a person for punching someone on the face upon visiting a foreign country they had never visited before, and they would say 'oh that it's a tradition! It's excusing an act (in this case a vulger name) just because it's somewhere out there for people to Google or read about! Besides that, their is no "irony" in Jansons initial comment because he assumed that people would get it without having to say that it was from an SNL skit until after people reacted on it- do you see the double standard here! Who knows what peoples intentions are when submitting offensive insults until after other users react on it!

Apr 30 - 12:56 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

He may not like the Beatles either. I'm just saying, it kinda rubs against the grain. Film fans owe it to themselves to know their subject.

Apr 23 - 10:27 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Good list, I'd probably only substitute Postcards from the Edge and Inner Space with Any Given Sunday and Enemy Mine, which I've never seen the charm of.

Apr 23 - 10:27 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Both of those are very close, as is "Long Riders" and "Flesh and Bone".

Apr 24 - 01:20 PM

David C.

David Courtemanche

Gee, no one mentions another great Dennis Quaid movie,"Frequency".Guess you have to be a sci fi fan to appreciate just how good it was.

Apr 24 - 04:13 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

I liked it.

Apr 24 - 10:06 AM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Jesus was in it.

Apr 24 - 10:49 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

And it had Jim Caviezel! In my opinion, a very good actor who simply dropped off the map for a decade, only to resurface in some crappy cop drama on TV. Caviezel, where the hell ya been?

Apr 25 - 07:34 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

For every good movie in the 70's there were 1000 pieces of shit. I'll take the 80's over 70's crap any day. Film fans owe it to themselves not to like shit because some douchebag says they should.

Apr 24 - 10:02 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

P.s. Funny how other than 'The Godfather (1 or 2), Clockwork Orange or Apocalypse Now - you really don't see many 70's flicks on anyone's favorites lists. If it were so great, you would think there would be more.

Apr 24 - 10:06 AM

Gimhana Fernando

Gimhana Fernando

I swear I saw One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest on someone's list,and I'm pretty sure somebody put down Jaws as well.
Personally,I think the 70's was better than the 80's.You get Taxi Driver,Network,The French Connection,Star Wars(saw this one someone's list,too),The Exorcist,Chinatown(again,it was on a list,I really need to find the links for these),and the 80's only had Amadeus,Platoon,Raging Bull,The Empire Strikes Back,Aliens and E.T.Some I'm definitely more of a 70's guy.
Also,the 90's were better than both.

Apr 24 - 10:14 AM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

Really Val?
I disagree.
I see the seventies all the time on these lists. Janson was right in claiming that to cinephiles the 70's is the last great filmmaking decade. The 80's is a cinematic wasteland by comparison. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the 70's are always present on these lists.

Apr 24 - 10:48 AM

Mark Schilling

Mark Schilling

Hey Val, How about Chinatown? That's a film from the 70's, isn't it? Along with 50 or 60 other films from that decade. If there were a few good movies in the 70's, and a thousand p.o.s. to go along with them, what does that say about the films of the 90's and the 2000's? Multiply the p.o.s. factor by 5.

Apr 24 - 12:40 PM

Dave J

Dave J

The reason why you're not a fan of 70's movies because you probably haven't been able to see all the right ones- without movies of the 70's, there would be no 80's and 90's! I mean, a number of directors such as Coppola, Spielberg and Scorsese even got their big breaks from the 70's! Movies of 1970 are the stepping stone for movies coming out in the 80's and 90's!

Apr 24 - 12:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Val, you ignorant slut. As idiotic as it already is to arbitrarily define movies based on strict decades, you're ignoring the cultural and social factors for why the changes that occurred in this era (actually starting around 1966 with the collapse of the "production code"; which is why Quaid included "Bonnie and Clyde", I'm sure). Filmmakers during this time were allowed the ability to explore previously taboo subject matter - political, sexual, moral, cultural - that drastically altered the conventions of Hollywood. Dave beat me to it, but you cannot go from the "general audiences" type of classic Hollywood to the more modern and mature 80s and 90s without the necessary groundwork inbetween. And many of the leaders of 80s films (Spielberg, Cameron, Demme, Lynch, Verhoeven, Donner, Stone) were directly involved and benefitted from the formal changes of this New Wave in American cinema. I know you're partial to Howard the Duck, Val, but that atrocity of cinema would not have been made possible without the pioneering work of Fritz the Cat. Perhaps, Val, your real issue is less one of quality, and perhaps you're more offended by these liberties of politics, sex and morality that this era represents. I know that Dirty Harry and Josey Wales (landmarks of the era) would be very disappointed in your sniffles.

Apr 24 - 01:13 PM

AHungerArtist

ahungerartist ahungerartist

Calling someone an ignorant slut right off the bat is a really productive way to being a post.

Apr 24 - 02:28 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

It's quite obvious why Jerry has been heckling you, and at first I felt sorry for you but now I see you deserve the majority of it. I'm not sure where you imagined that I said that no 70's movies were worth watching. But as for the cultural factors you refer to, it was pretty horrible. The fashion, the style, fucking disco, awful hippie hair... please. I could also give a shit less about Howard the Duck and honestly have no recollection about that film. It's true that a lot of taboos were brought to film that weren't previously, but it was also the decade porn films came into prominence. I suppose you are gonna tell me those were awesome too, because you like guys with overgrown porn stashes, you knob jockey.

Apr 24 - 02:53 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

He's right in mentioning that it changed the quality of cinema which was on the downturn because of the influence of television on the market. The '70s "turned cinema around" and made people want to go back to the movies. Hell, Jaws and Star Wars invented the blockbuster.

Also, if you're going to nitpick the style and music choices of an era then eventually all eras will become laughable. Look at the '80s and early '90s. Baaaaad. Shoulder pads anyone? Cross Colours? NOOOOOO!

I will say, that as a child in the '80s and '90s, I will always go back to those movies for nostalgia but the '70s produced amazing films (as listed previously) that have stood the test of time.

Apr 24 - 03:13 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

So I'm guessing Val became me, now.

Apr 24 - 03:23 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

@hungerartist - I was hoping an 80s fan would recognize a Dan Aykroyd reference. Obviously not.

@Val - Your judgement on 70s film was pretty sweeping. But thanks for explaining that it boils down to your fear of sex and hippies.

Apr 24 - 03:45 PM

Dave J

Dave J

I think you're missing the whole point about Dennis Quaid's picks- these are the movies he grew up with and may have impacted him to be who he is, which is an actor! Because RT came out in the late 1990's, you can't stereotypically judge whether an movie era is any good by looking at the actors/ actresses and directors who chose to answer here on RT since much of the current crop of people involved in the film industry weren't even born yet, nor have any time to see all of them as more than 20 movies from all over the world are released each week! Movie lists dramatically change over time if more people involved in the industry have more time to watch them, and not all people involved in the film industry are going to express their top favorite films to RT!

Apr 24 - 03:46 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Wow, this discussion really got out of hand quickly. I don't get why we have to try to group movie's into 10 year era's, especially when a lot of the films involved don't fit conveniently into them. Like Janson said there were a ton of movie's in the late 60s that set the tone for the 70's. Quaid even references Bonnie and Clyde in his interview. I know Star Wars is a 70's movie, but it along with Scorceses' work pretty much defined the tone of films in the 80's aside from the big action films by Stallon and Arnold and Co. I personally prefer the 80's, but that doesn't reduce my love for The Shining, Spartacus or Casablanca just because they come from another era.

Apr 24 - 05:15 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

True about hippies, but I actually could dig The Village People.

Apr 24 - 07:14 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

The Shining was 1980 Brother. It counts as 1 for me!

Apr 25 - 07:30 AM

Kenneth Elliott

Kenneth Elliott

Star Wars IV? Jaws? Close Encounters?

I don't know about some of you, but the 70's had quite a few recognizable big-name titles besides "Godfather."

Apr 25 - 02:35 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

Take a look at what Val considers a top notch movie and you will not be surprised by his reaction.

Apr 27 - 11:19 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

Val: Avatar 10/10

You can't be surprised that someone that would completely eat up that glossy cliche mediocre movie would diss 70's films.

Apr 27 - 11:20 PM

rocknblues81

Brian Hurley

The 70's had:

Deliverance
The Exorcist
Taxi Driver
Mean Streets
Little Big Man
The Outlaw Josey Whales
High Plains Drifter
Dawn of the Dead
Nashville
Dog Day Afternoon
Dirty Harry
Jaws
Duel
Jeremiah Johnson
Apocalypse Now
The Last Picture Show
Days of Heaven
The Deer Hunter
Blazing Saddles
Young Frankenstein
Airplane
Badlands
The Godfather 1 and 2
The Sting
The French Connection
All the Presidents Men
Annie Hall
Being There
Network
Chinatown
Serpico
The Driver
The Warriors
Krame vs. Kramer
Alien
Rocky
Manhattan
The Tenant
The Look Kiss Goodbye
Carrie
Halloween
Five Easy Pieces
Enter the Dragon
Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Star Wars
Get Charter
Animal House
Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia
The Conformist
Star Wars
Marathon Man
Breaking Away

Apr 27 - 11:35 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

P.s. Funny how other than 'The Godfather (1 or 2), Clockwork Orange or Apocalypse Now - you really don't see many 70's flicks on anyone's favorites lists. If it were so great, you would think there would be more.

Apr 24 - 10:06 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

I liked it.

Apr 24 - 10:06 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

By no means a best movie list, but more of an honorable mention: Innerspace, Dragonheart, Dreamscape.

Apr 24 - 10:08 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"Dreamscape" is a personal favorite. I am a softie for 80s sci/fi. But it really isn't a very good movie in retrospect.

Apr 24 - 01:21 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

But, your insult wasn't anywhere thus disproving your point and no number of made up hypothetical scenerio's are going to make your point any better. Bottom line, two commenters with a shared history where discussing opposing views on different era's of film history, one used a pop culture reference that straddled the two era's to emphasize his point and a bunch of people who had nothing to do with the initial conversation didn't get the reference and made a stink about it. They were educated and for some reason one of them continues to harp on it in an effort I guess to eliminate pop culture references from the internet. That's the situation we're dealing with, that and nothing else.

Apr 30 - 07:28 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Above comment is for Dave J below...it's here because I'm tired of scrolling through dozens of comments.

Apr 30 - 07:29 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

In regards to your last paragraph Dave and then I'm done because I suspect you may be taking the piss here now. Should all the people who got the joke have to forego their enjoyment of it because you or anyone else didn't "get it". If that's your point I'll refer you back to my George Takai quote because you've crossed to line from ignorant into FCC territory there. No one should have to dumb down their dialog for fear that people won't get it. I find the insinuation that they should offensive on a forum dedicated to the art of film.

Apr 30 - 07:33 PM

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infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Can you call him an ignorant slut, now?

Seriously though, the snake monster in Dreamscape was terrifying.

Apr 24 - 03:02 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Seriously, no one here is a Dan Aykroyd fan?

Apr 24 - 03:47 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Fan? No. I do appreciate his early work. When explains the anti-air gun to the homeowner in 1941, that is classic Aykroyd, but now he is a fucking blowhard that can't buy a laugh.

Apr 24 - 04:00 PM

Bazooka Jew

Bazooka Jew

I like his UFO doc.

Apr 24 - 04:01 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Eh, I preferred Bill Murray until Zombieland.

Apr 24 - 04:01 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

OK, "ignorant slut" is a comical reference to Aykroyd. Gosh, I sure hope Val can recover...

Apr 24 - 04:04 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Janson, you call for civil discussion on this board all the time. Then your next post people are bitches and ignorant sluts. THEN we're all idiots for not getting the reference. Referencing the Big Lebowski, people get it because its well known in the movie nerd circle.

Referencing an old ass SNL sketch that no one remembers, makes people think you're just calling them an ignorant slut.

Apr 24 - 04:47 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Since "Ignorant slut" is not obvious to the average user unless that person were to have a photographic memory than it's deemed as offensive if it's not mentioned as an Ackroyd comical reference beforehand because he can do the same to you by calling you "a butt-faced, pompous jerk" without mentioning that it came from "Parks & Recreation"! In my opinion at least you owe Val an apology!

Apr 24 - 04:53 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Uh oh, Janson, you need to apologize to Val. Plus, ignorant slut has been used a million times and no one can pinpoint exactly where it originated. So it is fairly reasonable to assume that you're personally insulting him. If you used an obviously famous line like, "You should clone yourself/So you can fuck yourself" Then, people would have thought you're joking around and not a pissy bitch.

Looks like people are backstabbers though. *cough* Infernal Dude *cough*. Plus, Infernal Dude, are we done with the sitcom?

Apr 24 - 04:57 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Not to comment on the other portion of the arguments, but "Jane, you ignorant slut" is a pretty common pop culture reference. It's from the original Weekend Update on SNL with Dan Ackroyd and Jane Curtin. To paraphrase Forrest Gump "It's pretty much a household phrase" at least to anyone who's a fan of good comedy or was born before 1990.

Apr 24 - 05:09 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

A couple of points: First off, after my (unfortunate or not) ignorant slut comment, I offered about as substantial a discussion starter for the particular era of films that we're discussing, the one dominating Quaid's selections. I'm happy to continue discussing the historical aspects of the era.

Second, Val (who is actually far more amusing to me than, say, Jerry) frequents in a similar currency of course language, so I admit that it's my fault for thinking his skin might be a little thicker. But Dylan was right (you break just like a little girl). [and that's a joke too, so walk it off, Val]

Now for Jerry, I have no idea what anyone was calling you back in 2008 because I wasn't around here at that time. And I'm not offended by anyone's jokes toward me. What I object concerning yourself is your creepy behavior. If you had half a wit, maybe you'd be more tolerable.

Getting back to the central issue, as I said, I'm still open to discussing the imprtance and role of the American New Wave, which I'm fully prepared to defend, while even keeping my jokes above the standard of 30 year old late-night humor if so be it, just as I'm also prepared to defend any of my favorite film epochs, such as German expressionism, Italian neo-realism, French New Wave, samurai films and spagetti westerns. I am but a humble slave to the glory of celluloid.

Apr 24 - 05:39 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Creepy behavior? I'm a fuckin troll. I do whatever the fuck I wanna do. I try to offend, scare, and hurt people. Don't you understand? The creepy behavior is a trolling method. I swore I would never troll ever again.

As for your other topic, (BTW, my name isn't Jerry. It's Jay) if you had said "Val, you ignorant slut -Dan Akroyd everyone would have got the joke

Apr 24 - 05:52 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

Trust me, Janson and I have had our disagreements. I just calls em as I sees em. Your trolling was alarming at first but then I realized you were the demon Cutler reincarnated and I remembered the absurdity of your existence thus embracing the chaos you bring. You're like that neighbor with the cars parked in your yard and the tv on too loud that everyone hates at first but then you start to accept that they're kind of a d bag, but they're our d bag.

I do think Janson makes good points, but his points are often barbed and he wonders why people react the way they do. Why did you have to say, "go read a book" to Val? Thats clearly a negative statement that greatly reduces whatever point you're trying to make. And you were worried about the Facebookers? Please.

As for the sitcom. We're in development hell here. I would say its a wash. W/o Janson on board the volatile chemistry just isn't there. It's like Big Bang w/o Sheldon. I think I'm going to go back to producing low brow late night Skinemax and Asylum films. The Land of the Hobbits 2: An Unexpected Event of Some Nature Again is ripe for the plucking!

Apr 24 - 06:05 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Aw man, no sitcom!? Please, Janson, join the cast. I'm broke. I need the money.

Apr 24 - 06:13 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I probably shouldn't post after watching the Jeselnik Offensive. I don't even really like the show. Other than that, I just thought Val was the type who could handle a barb or two.

(Nice backhanded Sheldon comparison. B for effort)

Apr 24 - 06:15 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

All of this because I said I wasn't a big fan of 70's movies? I wasn't even trolling for fucks sake!

Apr 24 - 07:17 PM

Dave J

Dave J

I just want to say to "Big Brother" that it's na´ve to assume if you said nor called any of your so-called girlfriends/ relationships "Jane - you ignorant slut"- that they're immediately going to know where you got that from! Since they're many sophisticated attractive girls who don't watch a heck of a lot of TV nor watch a heck of a lot of movies when all they do is read and study doing there own thing! I'm just saying that it's only a popular phrase as long as you allow it to be!

Apr 25 - 04:33 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

OK Dave J, as usual you're living in Dave J land. It's a popular phrase because it's part of popular culture hence why popular is part of both. Even if someone had never seen Star Wars, I know a girl who hasn't, they still get what people are talking about when you say "Use the Force, Luke". Also, most of the women I date are smart enough to pick up from the context that I'm quoting something, even if they aren't familiar with exactly what I'm quoting and a simple "what's that from" keeps it from turning into a full fledged tiff like this has become. Seriously, google "You ignorant slut" and I bet you a dozen clips will come up of Dan Ackroyd. Another popular quote comes to mind after this discussion. Screw y'all if ya can't take a joke.

Apr 25 - 05:14 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Actually, it's more like the other way around for it's Big Brother living in Big Brother land whereas I don't continue to live in that era no matter how popular that phrase used to be! And my other point is that "Use the Force, Luke" is not the same as calling someone an "ignorant slut" especially on-line! I mean, to you it's obvious from the get-go since you were part of it, but to me I had to "Google" that first to get what Janson was saying, nor is that phrase obvious to most other users here since more than half of the users weren't even born during the time when it was even said at all! You have to understand that the way he initially stated it is not under the same circumstance as when Ackroyd said it since the situations are entirely different!

I mean, do people still use that phrase right now? Possible, but unlikely if you're trying to build a proper rapport with someone such as your boss for instance who are unfamiliar with well known phrases, and to me to quote TV and movie phrases you don't quite know whether other people will "get it" is na´ve and dangerous especially when it comes to conversing with world leaders!

Apr 25 - 05:42 PM

Dave J

Dave J

And define "joke" in the context of how Janson used it is acceptable according to you is nuts! Since when was it okay to insult people by using popular phrases from the 70's 80 or 90's for that matter? Would you be able to get it if I called you any offensive name I got from a movie or tv which may not have anything to do with the point I'm making?

Apr 25 - 05:50 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Dave, you pompous ass, you're not trying to build a rapport with your boss, or talking to your girlfriend conversing with a world leader or whatever made up situation you dream up to make this offensive. It's two people chatting on a pop culture website in which one of them used a popular pop culture reference for comedic shock value (gasp, just like Dan Ackroyd did back on SNL in 1977 the same year Star Wars came out). If you want people on an entertainment website to stop using pop culture references you really are living in Dave J world. Get over it or get smarter on the subject, these are your two options as I see them.

Apr 25 - 05:54 PM

Dave J

Dave J

So, what you're saying is that "if" it's a reference to pop culture than people have to do their homework even though "they" shouldn't even have to I feel is asking for a lot! You and Janson get it and everyone else is dumb... right you ignorant slut! This is still not proper English nor is it part of proper conversation regardless where it came from nor how popular it used to be!

Apr 25 - 06:13 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"World leaders"....I'm starting to get the feeling that Dave J is actually Kim Jong Un.

Apr 25 - 06:17 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Just these comments alone reminded me of a Simpsons episode when Bart became famous for saying "I didn't do it" and that his fame would only last for so long!

Apr 25 - 06:17 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"Proper english". That's funny.

"Washday tomorrow. Nothing clean, right?"

Apr 25 - 06:19 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

No, what I'm saying is that on this forum a certain level of pop culture knowledge is a general prerequisite and if you're too lazy to educate yourself your ignorance deserves the offense. It actually is proper English, there's nothing wrong with the format of the sentence, the content may offend you, but it's still proper English. Also, I find it particularly funny that whilst being offended you actually committed the offense you were railing against. You didn't even use the quote right. You'd think the copious explanations given would have relieved any offense by now, but nooooooooo.

Apr 25 - 06:19 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Look, I'm going to make this plain and simple, not everyone is going to "get" 1970's pop culture- that is just arrogant!

Apr 25 - 06:28 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

OK, I'll cave. If you sweet bitches can't take a joke, well, excuuuuuuuuuuusssssse ME!

Apr 25 - 06:29 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Look, not everyone has to. The funny thing here is Val, the guy the comment was directed to, didn't even mention it as offensive. Being offended on someones behalf because you didn't understand something, that's arrogant AND ignorant. Where's the uproar over use of the term "knob jockey"? Where's your sense of moral outrage there? It's hilarious to me that you're this offended that someone would be rude on the internet, but please if you're that dedicated to being mortified for poor, defenseless Val, delicate flower that we all know him to be :). Carry on.

Apr 25 - 06:31 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Please Dave, google the damn reference so you at least understand the joke. It's intended to be a humorous way of showing you vehemently disagree with someone. You're embarrassing yourself with your lack of understanding here.

Apr 25 - 06:40 PM

Dave J

Dave J

God....news flash, where does it say on RT that calling an unknown user an "ignorant slut" is a direct reference to 1970's pop culture, besides learning it from Big Brother and Janson? And where did anyone here say that users were coming to Val's defense because people felt bad for poor Val? I mean WTF man, why do "users" have to "Google" something that would've been deemed as offensive if "it's" said to someone directly to another person in real life? You assume that everyone have to "get it" just because it's there for people to Google is arrogant! F-ck man, I wouldn't even use that term no matter who I meet regardless what era it's from- that's just silly and stupid!

It may be funny when Dan Ackroyd used it at that particular time of that sketch or many sketches for that matter, but I highly doubt you found it funny when Janson used it in those terms when he was trying to make a point-for it can overshadow the point he was making! You can't convince me because a lot of things were said during the 1970's- it doesn't mean you can use those phrases on here! And I'm done discussing this since you semantically look at this one way while I looked at this as being something else!

Apr 25 - 06:55 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Because that's the joke Dave, I really can't believe you don't get this. It's assumed that people who are familiar with the joke, a fair assumption on a forum like this, will see the humor and laugh. The problem comes when people who don't get it, like yourself obviously, decide to be offended and make a big deal out of it from a place of ignorance and belabor the point even when it's been explained to them in gratuitous detail. I can think of a thousand other movie quotes where this is going to apply if people take the same stance as you and are similarly uninformed. "Shut the Fuck up Donnie", "Frankly my dead I don't give a damn", "Where all da white women at?" "The next one of you primitive fucks...", "You talk like you're smart, but you're stupid", "Stupid is as stupid does" anyone of them in the proper context can be used for humourous effect, but apparently Dave J is now the moderator for decorum on RT, so I defer to you good Sir since you are obviously more qualified than I and my uncouth ilk.

Apr 25 - 07:06 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Val is not an "unknown user". He's been posting here as long as I have, and I've learned from his posts that he was around in the 70s to be be able to know what the reference was. My only regret is that his offense over my calling him an ignorant slut may overshadow my intended offense that it's terribly stupid to dismiss an entire decade of films, especially one that is historically considered a renaissance. I could say I hate American literature of the 1920s (too much Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Steinbeck and Faulkner), but I imagine that if I wanted to be taken seriously, I better have a sound and novel argument for that opinion.

Apr 25 - 08:34 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Well, everybody knows Fitzgerald was an ignorant slut, Hemingway was a pompous ass, Steinbeck was always starting with me and you'd think Faulkner would be better, but noooooooooo!!!

Apr 25 - 09:09 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Well, when I said an "unknown" user, I meant that the only thing we know about one another is that we all watch films- that is all- for RT is not like "Facebook" where both personal and private information can be viewed for the world to see! I didn't say "new" user!

And Janson- it would've helped me, along with others if you added that it was from an SNL skit beforehand at that particular time, because in real life if someone were to verbally call someone that term or anyone else for that matter, would've motivate that person to clock that person in the face! It may have been clever if you added that extra bit of information so that other users including me wouldn't have to react to it as we did, but as you said earlier- it is what it is!

Apr 26 - 01:15 PM

King  S.

King Simba

For once I have to go with Dave J. Maybe the phrase "You ignorant slut" is more popular in some places than others, but I can't remember EVER hearing the phrase before (and if someone did use it I probably just assumed it was an insult rather than a movie reference). I mean the fact that even on a movie board few got the reference tells you it's just not that well known.

I mean use phrases like "Use the Force, Luke" "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" "A martini, shaken not stirred" "E.T phone home" with anyone on the street and they'd automatically get the reference. You just can't say the same about "Jane, you ignorant slut".

Apr 27 - 12:28 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

OK. I'm sorry. I meant to say that Val is a retarded sodomite. Forgive me for the confusion.

Apr 28 - 07:08 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

"If we can't laugh at ourselves and at one another, in good spirit and without malice, then what fun can be left? If we must withold all ribbing in the name of protecting everyone's feelings, then we truly are a toothless society. We will reach what I call the lowest common denominator of butthurt" - George Takai

Apr 28 - 07:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Dave J = Jackie Wilson

Apr 29 - 01:52 PM

Dave J

Dave J

The only thing proved here is that calling an unknown user an "ignorant slut" was not funny to a specific user until after other users reacted to it! I mean, it's not like Janson was always courteous and clever whenever it comes to replying peoples comments on-line for theirs also a good chance you would not have picked up on it had Janson called Val something else! Furthermore, would it make any difference "if" they're other derogatory offensive names called by Janson also "possible" references from films as well as other sources, and would it even matter! I can clearly see the hypocrisy here!

Apr 29 - 02:05 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Nope, wouldn't have mattered to me in the least. I might have been initially offended if I didn't get it, but I would have quickly gotten over it when it was explained to me and appreciated learning something new rather than trying to force an apology for something that clearly wasn't meant to offend.

Apr 29 - 04:47 PM

Dave J

Dave J

I guess between Janson and you we'll never know, will we!

"Ahem, when I called you an ignorant f-ckhead pedophile and molester- my intent was supposed to be from an awesome movie I saw before to which I forgot the name... so don't get so uptight about it and lighten up about it... as a matter of fact- suck it up!"

Apr 29 - 05:51 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Please Dave J, find me the movie that uses "ignorant fuckhead pedophile molester" for comedic value and I'll immediately issue you an apology...oh wait, you can't because it doesn't exist because shockingly there's a difference in comedic skills between Dave J and an in his prime Dan Ackroyd. That's the funny thing, I still don't think you get the joke based on your arguments which is just sad. P.S. no one forgot the name of the show "Jane, you ignorant slut" came from. SNL Weekend update, used multiple occasions from 1978-1980 please google it, watch it and tell me it's not comedic gold...or just keep wallowing in ignorance, being butthurt and generally having a miserable time ... because that's clearly the better option for you. In fact, please anyone watch it and then we can have a more useful debate.

Apr 29 - 06:10 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

I get what you're saying Simba, but as someone who's very rational, have you watched clips of where the quote comes from and if so, can you clearly say it's not hilarious and furthermore can you not see how in a conversation about which decade was superior the 70s or 80's an assumption could be made that the key players would get a quote from from a comedy show widely popular during that time with a quote from a segment that ran from 1978-1980?

Apr 29 - 06:14 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Also, Dave J. Explain to me if you would randomly throwing a bunch of insults together and referencing a joke from the era in discussion from a debate show and using said quote to illustrate your disagreement with someone just like the initial quote was used for. I just want you to do this so I can be sure you understand what we're discussing here. It's the difference between saying "you're a cocksucking asshole" and "Shut the Fuck up Donnie". One is just being a jerk, the other is a popular quote from a movie often used by movie nerds for comedic effect. Do you see and can you acknowledge the difference. If not, I give up.

Apr 29 - 06:41 PM

Dave J

Dave J

That's exactly my point Big Brother! It shouldn't be a difference because every insult and vulger name can be found on any film or book if someone were to look hard enough because whether it's intended for comedic purposes or not should not make any difference at all because it would mean that someone would have to look outside the realm of rottentomatoes which "no" one including you should not have to do!

It's like if someone were to excuse a person for punching someone on the face upon visiting a foreign country they had never visited before, and they would say 'oh that it's a tradition! It's excusing an act (in this case a vulger name) just because it's somewhere out there for people to Google or read about! Besides that, their is no "irony" in Jansons initial comment because he assumed that people would get it without having to say that it was from an SNL skit until after people reacted on it- do you see the double standard here! Who knows what peoples intentions are when submitting offensive insults until after other users react on it!

Apr 30 - 12:56 PM

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