Alternates between a slurry of Franz Marc expressionism and the most elaborate Thundercats episode ever made
oops! Sorry the last comment goes to Panoply.
Jan 24 - 12:56 AM
Not very smartly writen? lol...depends on what he was after doesnt it? Writing for mass appeal is what he did, and like it or not it's just about to take down Titanic, a film that has held the top box office slot for the last 15 years financially.
He wrote a simple story taken from familiar themes and used them for his commercial film vehicle...and it paid off dispite the odds and the overwhelmingly high budget.
yeah...you must be right. He had absolutely no idea what he was doing. rofl! Give it a rest allready. He made a pop film piece and not high art...big deal. Not everything has to be some high concept artistic statement in film making.
You obviously overestimate what you think people are sick of.
Jan 25 - 01:00 AM
hmmmm CoDD, where to start? i guess if he wrote the film for the average movie goer who has no ability to see the pretty colors and follow a good story simultaneously, then i concede your point, it was smartly written....which is probably the case too because if he made the film soley for financial success that is probably the best approach, doesnt make it any better of a movie in my eyes...and if your barometer for a film's quality is financial success, i.e. - e.g. it made more money than everything else, then i guess TRANSFORMERS 2 was a better movie than PULP FICTION, and if thats you position that a film has no need to be ART at all then i concede this point too, AVATAR was the best movie ever made as so many have dubbed it, and TRANSFORMERS 2 and 2012 and others were better movies than PULP FICTION and INGLORIOUS BASTARDS, and way better movies than OLD BOY and PANS LABYRINTH and dozens of others...I guess i just don't have the eye for quality story telling that the masses do......damn...ROLL!!!! LMFAO really????and i havent overestimated what people are sick of at all, I HATE THE MOVIE NEVER SAID YOU HAD TO AS WELL, actually quite the opposite, i KNOW the movie going public will continue to file into theaters for any garbage that shows them explosions, CGI, and pretty colors......TRANSFORMERS 1 and 2, 2012, GI JOE, AVATAR, etc.....maybe you UNDERESTIMATE what these filmmakers primamry goals were???? $$$$$$$$$$BTW financial gross is relative to inflation and imax/3d ticket prices, AND total BUDGET before you dub this movie the most successful of all time....
Jan 25 - 05:28 PM
I never quantified ticket sales with quality. I simply said not every film has to be a high concept peice of work to enjoy it.
The reference to being sick of this kind of movie was referencing Panoply's response that everyone was sick of action oriented pop films. Ticket sales are what they are. It simply means a lot of people liked it. Whatever math you want to quantify to make yourself feel good trying to justify why Avatar ticket sales arent as impressive is irrelevant.
If it were so easy to hit 1.8 billion dollars wordwide than every other release would be doing it and trying to dismiss it as everyone contribution to those figures some how doesnt have your same standards is hillarious. Maybe people just arent as uptight about it as you and saw it for what it was and not what it was not. 1.8 billion is still 1.8 billion.
My point is just because you dont like it and look at it from a particular perspective doesnt mean its junk. Just junk to you...but it's obvious not everyone aggrees with you.
Me personally, I enjoyed it. I dont think its the greatest film ever made by a long shot, though the CGI was at this point in time and it was worth the $13.00 buck to see it and thats all that really matters.
I like to watch high concept films,I love Terentino / T Anderson films and watch a lot of independant stuff...and some times I just want some low brow fun film I dont have to be too invested in.
I just think its funny how people's feathers are so ruffled by Avatar. I also think you are crazy if you really think the story was quite as bad as GI Joe. GI joe was really really bad...but I didnt run around the forum crying about it either.
But hey...what ever works for ya. :-) Keep on keeping on...
Jan 25 - 11:58 PM
This is an awful comment in my opinion. Anyone who can say that clearly has no taste or vision at all. Avatar is extraordinary.
Jan 27 - 06:30 PM
who the **** is Franz Marc? And how can one man know about both a Franz Marc and the Thundercats? Also, dude: 'Thundercats' is not the preferred nomenclature. It's 'WeatherFelines'.
Feb 11 - 07:43 PM
No way, ho-zay! This movie was AMAZING! One of the best i've seen all year.
Feb 14 - 07:11 PM
This is a stupid and circular argument. Obviously Avatar had a simple and generic plot, but do you really think the movie would have worked with a complex story? NO! There's too much going on already. Bottom line, if you don't mind the fact that it's driven by CGI, you'll probably enjoy this movie. I think the movie was very creative personally, dragged on a bit but that's the nature of these epic movies. Love the story or hate it, you can't deny that James Cameron and his team have got a talent for making beautiful movies.
Feb 18 - 08:46 PM
Feb 19 - 09:24 AM
I'm glad I checked this movie here because I've been hard pressed to find someone (other than my roommate who I saw the film with) who didn't drool over it. The effects were amazing and beautiful but they couldn't keep my attention. I don't mind when a story is reused (basically nothing is totally original) but I couldn't care about the characters regardless of how much I wanted to. I suppose my expectations were a little higher than they should have been but this was nothing more than eye candy, unbearable after an hour. I stuck it out because I paid good money to see it but I wished by the end that I had left. The characters were underdeveloped and unbelievable. The actor who played Jake just didn't have any emotion in his character and Sigourney Weaver as the hard-*** scientist was just ridiculous. I wanted so badly to like this movie but all I'll say is it was more entertaining than The Room. Post Script: Wow, I didn't realize how hated the Last Samurai was. I rather enjoyed that film but I'll agree on the New World.
Feb 22 - 11:57 PM
why would you even put a post script on a message post on a troll infested comment board. no one really cares what you think about new world or last samurai (which wasn't that bad)
Jul 24 - 01:11 PM
Mixed feelings about this movie. On the one hand it's completely tacky, which it seems must preclude it from the upper echelons of the film pantheon. And yet, I found it entertaining how it got a crowd of Americans(apparently nationwide)to cheer as an insignificant tribe - Native American/Middle Eastern types - wasted US military personnel. That's a neat trick akin to Samuel Clemens(aka. Mark Twain) tricking a racist country into caring about a black person (N-word Jim)by showing him through the eyes of a young boy(Huck Finn) Okay, so where Mark Twain's story is unarguably great, James Camaron's would never stand up except on the big screen in 3D. But in America, these days, that's what it takes to get people in seats. So good on you James: for giving illiterate Americans, with the attention spans of insects, a taste of what it must be like to have American bombs dropped on you just because you have the misfortune of living above a natural recourse. If you doubt that Cameron intended to draw this parallel, here are three quotes from the movie that make his designs unequivocal: 1. "Let's fight terror with terror." 2."Our best defense is a 'preemptive attack.'" "They're planning some kind of 'shock and awe' demonstration." Also, I liked when it looked like those jelly fish lookin' things were flying in front of my face.
Feb 26 - 09:35 AM
"the most elaborate Thundercats episode ever made" love it. and am going to use it.
Feb 27 - 10:54 AM
Being like a Thundercats episode is a bad thing?
Feb 28 - 09:15 AM
No need to get snippy with me...Something considered lowest common denominator not only appeals to the widest audience, but is also accessible to the largest audience. An iphone does not fit the definition since both its initial cost and its service contract are more than most are willing to shell out. What do you say to that...peabrain?
Mar 2 - 08:21 AM
Fernando F. Croce - I'd just like to say AMEN! It was just an animated version of 'Dances with Wolves'...I like to call it 'Dances with Big Blue People'.
Definately not the end-all-be-all of film making...a pretty and imaginative, but still just a nifty cartoon with live action though :) if I were 15 I'd be all over this thing.
Mar 3 - 09:30 AM
A simplistic and rather unhelpful criticism of a well-thought out and innovative movie.
Mar 6 - 01:25 AM
I disagree about the movie, but I'm giving you style points for the Thundercats reference. Well-played, sir.
Apr 28 - 07:42 PM
all the people bashing this critic probably have no idea what 'thundercats' even is. or Franz Marc for that matter. just that big green splat for 'rotten.' get a life, trolls.
Jul 24 - 01:08 PM