HD DVD: 2006-2008

Toshiba raises battered white flag.

Okay, how many of you know how to play the bugle? We need someone to play "Taps" while we discuss this story.

You knew this day was coming, gang -- you just probably didn't think it would arrive this quickly. In a statement released Tuesday, Toshiba announced it had completed a "thorough review of its overall strategy" and concluded the company "will no longer develop, manufacture and market HD DVD players and recorders." Atsutoshi Nishida, Toshiba's president and CEO, was quoted as saying:

"We carefully assessed the long-term impact of continuing the so-called 'next-generation format war' and concluded that a swift decision will best help the market develop. While we are disappointed for the company and more importantly, for the consumer, the real mass market opportunity for high-definition content remains untapped and Toshiba is both able and determined to use our talent, technology and intellectual property to make digital convergence a reality."

According to the statement, Toshiba is "aiming for cessation" of its HD DVD manufacturing and shipping by the end of next month, but will "continue...to provide full product support and after-sales service for all owners of Toshiba HD DVD products."

And wouldn't you know it, before the day was out, Universal pulled its own plug on the format, releasing a statement indicating its support for Blu-ray:

"While Universal values the close partnership we have shared with Toshiba, it is time to turn our focus to releasing new and catalog titles on Blu-ray. The path for widespread adoption of the next-generation platform has finally become clear. Universal will continue its aggressive efforts to broaden awareness for high-def's unparalleled offerings in interactivity and connectivity, at an increasingly affordable price. The emergence of a single, high-definition format is cause for consumers, as well as the entire entertainment industry, to celebrate."

You hear that, consumers? This is a time for celebration. Why are you crying, HD DVD owners? You have unparalleled offerings in interactivity and connectivity at an increasingly affordable price to look forward to!

Comments

OperaGhost21

Richard Robertson

BA-BA-BOOSH!

Feb 20 - 05:26 AM

xenogears

J'rome Holmes II

Good riddins to bad rubbish.

Feb 20 - 05:26 AM

malusman

bob johnson

Good riddins to good spelling.

Feb 20 - 09:58 AM

xenogears

J'rome Holmes II

This a forum and in no way do I need to spell and properly punctuate my words. Try finding something else to be mad about.

Feb 20 - 10:20 AM

Circe Prankster

Prentice Clark

No, of course you don't have to spell words properly, you just make yourself look stupid if you don't. It doesn't take any extra effort to type "riddance" instead of "riddins." No one's mad, we're just enjoying a laugh at your expense.

Now if you don't mind, I'm going to go watch a few episodes of that hit TV show about the survivors of Oceanic Flight 815 trapped on a mysterious island. Maybe you've heard of it - it's called "Losed."

Feb 20 - 12:30 PM

xenogears

J'rome Holmes II

Funny but the whole point of a popular saying is to spell it the ways it is said. (i.e. "holla at me", "biatch", and so on.) You see, spelling it like that gives a since of dialect. And watch that retard show if you want, I'll just sit back and Planet Earth on Blu-ray.

Feb 21 - 06:09 AM

Elixor

Daniel Klooster

About time. Now lets work on making the Blu-Ray technologies more affordable.

Feb 20 - 05:27 AM

Silverevilchao

Silver The Evil Chao

No, how about killing the Blu-Ray format, too?

Sorry, I don't need to watch my movies in OMFG HI DEFINISHUN!!!1111!, I just wanna watch my movies. And I don't want to pay for a huge TV or a stupid new format just to watch them.

Feb 20 - 05:40 AM

Warheart1188

Tim Higginbotham

Now Xbox 360 owners will finally get the Blu Ray add-on we were told about. It's rumored to come out in May. Good riddance HD DVD!

Feb 20 - 05:50 AM

ThinPhantom

james cochino

will xbox users get a blu ray add on, or will microsoft f*** us and come out with a new xbox/blu-ray combo? makes you wonder why they didn't do a better upgrade on the elite. i think microsoft new this was going to happen all along. sucker us all with the hd, then donkey punch us with blu-ray.

Feb 20 - 07:28 AM

Elixor

Daniel Klooster

Then just wait and eventually you won't be paying any more for the hi-def equipment than you would to replace your standard def. It's not like you have to replace your old DVDs like when we switched from VHS to DVD. Blu-Ray isn't going anywhere, even if movies go all digital download, we'll still enjoy the capacity of Blu-Ray for storage purposes, even if it's just for computer data.

Feb 20 - 05:54 AM

ipisking

Howard Smith

R.I.P. BABY!!!!!!! Now time to play the waiting game for the price's to drop...

Feb 20 - 07:36 AM

vallejo_7o7

john player

haha, i remember having a great debate on this web site with a bunch of hd dvd fan boys. they were so adamant that hd dvd was the better format, now look... sad day for them... i wonder why they're not talking anymore?

Feb 20 - 08:06 AM

malusman

bob johnson

The HD-DVD fanboys are all at home watching movies in 1080 glorious lines of resolution, while everyone else is waiting for someone to buy their kidney on eBay so they can afford a BluRay player.

Feb 20 - 10:05 AM

xenogears

J'rome Holmes II

You say this as if blu-ray isn't 1080p also. Don't be mad the weaker format losed.

Feb 20 - 10:21 AM

nevermachine

never machine

I know how MS and Toshiba feel about it, but i really do not foresee HD digital downloads becoming a solid competitive format to rival Bluray. Lets face it. for the majority of the crowd that would even be interested in non-physical downloadable formats, i really don't see these kind of people actually paying for anything when there are other, less legitimate, ways to obtain this kind of media on the internet.

People like having physical things. its dumb, but i know that i am not the only person alive who looks at their DVD shelf and thinks, "Hmmm, this could be bigger, i should have more movies." its not exactly as satisfying to look at a hard drive and think, "wow, i have 65GB of video... better delete some **** to make room for Lost..." besides, look how long it has taken for people to adopt to HDTVs in general. It make much more sense to me for these late adopters to pick up on the next best physical format, rather than a download service. meh, thats enough for this rant.

Feb 20 - 09:29 AM

RJ_Becker

Ramon Becker

R.I.P. But I think that eventually we will lose at the end. Now that Sony has won the HD market, they have NO competition, and without it they will not be forced to put lower prices on their products. The same thing if HD-DVD wins.

Feb 20 - 10:44 AM

OperaGhost21

Richard Robertson

Sony did indeed win, but they still have plenty of competition. Blu-Ray still has to compete with regular DVDs, as most people have not adopted high definition yet, either in TV or movie form. In addition, digital downloads will become an obstacle to get around. Say what you want about DD, but even if it eventually fails, it will still give customers another option besides Blu-Ray. I hope Sony stays frosty about the victory and still pushes the format just as hard if not harder now.

Feb 20 - 01:37 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Exactly what I was going to say. This isn't so much a victory for Blu-ray as it is a defeat for consumers who enjoy freedom of choice and the reduced prices that come from healthy competition...unless of course you own stock in Blu-ray in which case I guess you win.

Feb 20 - 01:47 PM

kubla

Steve Khang

Agree.

Sony winning means we all lose.

Feb 20 - 01:59 PM

Knoxer

Brian Robinson

Wow, fanboy much? Sony is the future and has played their cards right. I'm going to guess you are just a kid that really doesn't know much about business. I bet you like xbox too, am I right? Too bad for you that Microsoft made the wrong decision. Maybe you should invest in a PS3 like I did. I haven't touched my 360 since I've made the purchase.

Feb 20 - 02:13 PM

rgallitan

robin thompson

Freedom of choice? Bogus argument.

First of all, no studio wants to support both formats. A few did during the war because they wanted short-term flexibility. But if the two formats were to coexist over the long term, I guarantee you that every single studio would have eventually picked one side or the other. I GUARANTEE you that. Because it is simply too ridiculously expensive to produce every single movie on two different technologies. Which means that, unless you don't want to buy any movie ever made by Sony or any other Blu-Ray supporter, you are forced into buying both formats anyway.

...So much for freedom of choice.


Get it through your heads: The only thing that was a defeat for the consumers was having this war in the first place. I don't care that Blu-Ray won. It doesn't matter. Neither format has any significant advantage over the other. The industry should have picked one two years ago - by coin toss if they had to - and spared us this horrible mess. Like they did with DVD in the '90s. Hopefully they've learned their lesson now. The only choice that matters to consumers is content. Content is King. It always has been and always will be. Anything that tries to change the subject is bad business.

Feb 20 - 04:13 PM

opTIMus Nerd

Tim Ahlberg

And then HD-DVD went to technology limbo with it's new friends, Betamax, 8-Track, cassette tape and reel-to-reel. *Sheds single tear...realizes tear is from fatigue and leaves*

Feb 20 - 10:49 AM

nate2709

Nate 2709

Microsoft can't even get computers and game consoles right, why should we have any confidence whatsoever in their digital download capabilities? I'm saying this as an XBOX 360 owner. Gates is a ***.

Feb 20 - 12:55 PM

dgator783

Roger Russell

How many times do people have to say Sony does not control the BDA or are the sole creators of BLu Ray Disc....they are a member with lots of other companies just like it was with the DVD association....They do not control prices...Blu Ray prices are dropping more rapid then DVD ever did...people need patience if you cant afford a player right now. Dont bad mouth a good company

Feb 20 - 05:06 PM

sgait4

jeff smith

sony is not a good company they were only a desperate company as there stocks and financial loses over the years have been devastating. So the found a way to lure all the movie makers to their product. Hopefully the prices will drop fast enough for them to keep the market they now have if not the will eventually lose to the downloads. As a person whom owns over 2,000 dvds having a hard copy is a pain in the but trying to store. As for as sony goes they are now very hungery (and hopefully not to arrogant) but they as a company have a history of putting out merchandise that fails (beta, mini-dvd) sothat now that they have acomplished a major victory and put the better product down, what will be there next stap..only the future will tell.

Feb 20 - 05:39 PM

Knoxer

Brian Robinson

Again you people bad mouth sony without knowing anything. Sony hasn't been suffering from financial loss at all. Sure the PS3 wasn't doing too hot when it first came out, but now it's right up there with the others and sony well deserves it. They release good products and make smart business moves in the long run. Don't like it? Then I guess you won't be watching what is currently the best out there.

Feb 20 - 07:05 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Dude, do you own stock in Sony? Seriously, that rant made it sound like someone insulted your mom.

Feb 20 - 10:57 PM

T45Red

Mitchell Nash

This is just awesome :) Goodbye HD-DVD and all those stupid arguments over which format is better. What a great day :D

Feb 20 - 09:16 PM

dayfalljesse

Jesse Wallace

i was an hd-dvd adopter, and although I am glad one of the formats won, i have to comment to all of you who obviously dont know anything about the formats and are saying "the superior format won". thats not actually the truth - the format with more market saturation won. Blu-ray is far from perfected, still has bug and compatibility issues, and is about to release on its 2.0 profile, which, by the way, will render most everyone who purchased a standalone Blu-ray player unable to play new discs without proper firmware updates. hd-dvd was a much more refined technology, and unfortunately it suffered due to the widespread saturation of PS3s.

like i said, i love HD movies, so I will be getting a PS3 or the equivalent to watch them, but i wish more of you that comment actually knew what you were saying before you post...

Feb 21 - 01:17 AM

xenogears

J'rome Holmes II

Well I do know what I am saying in this post and as I had both HD DVD and Blu-ray I compared the two on all levels and found Blu-ray supirior. Now this could be because I have a PS3 and automaticly updated the firmware as I have had no compatibility issues but by the same token it is very easy to update the firmware on the stand alone Blu-ray player. Just head over to sony.com and read up on it. More "refined"...maybe, but as far as content capacity and overall picture quality and sound....the superior format won.

Feb 21 - 06:23 AM

TombstoneLawDog

Daniel Klein

'don't care enough to have an opinion over who should've won. I'm just kind of glad I held my NEED for new toys in check until this was resolved.

Actually, I had to post just to agree with Circe Prankster about the whole spelling/dialect thing. When you habitually misspell, you come across as uneducated, sloppy and not deserving of respect or attention. It completely undercuts what could otherwise be a great point or argument.

If no one ever gives a rabid sh#t about this again, can we PLEASE spell it 'defin*I*tely' with an 'I' not an 'A'? I see that on RT pretty much once per day.

Feb 22 - 08:58 AM

Spiderbash

Tommy Thevenet

RIP HD DVD barely knew you.

Feb 24 - 02:51 PM

Spiderbash

Tommy Thevenet

Also we get to have huge monolopy for the next genertion of DVDS. Great now we have to pay more for Blu-Ray!

Feb 24 - 02:53 PM

CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe

Shawn Amoroso

well, if no one else will do it i guess its up to me and hear i

go.... "Dooo-aaa-doooo-do-da-dooo-doo-daa-doo" that was my bugle playing taps

and yes i think i need lesson;) still i don't really care about this thing

going the way of beta-max, i'm sitting fine with my trusty VCR and VHS

tapes:)

Feb 26 - 06:43 PM

High School With Money

LEEEROOOOOAAAAHHHH MMMYYAAAANKEEEUUUNNNNSSSS

Now if there can be some actual content worthy of HD viewing. [i]300[/i] is the only one that has utilized it with its green-screen viewing option, and that was exclusive to the now-dead format. As it stands, HD is providing barebones DVD-rips.

Feb 27 - 09:38 AM

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