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'Brave' is a charming feature that should entice female viewers, and contains enough action and low-brow humor that the male contingent should not feel embarrassed about entering a theater.
This is an incredibly sexist review. Not only does it imply that men only enjoy "low-brow" humor, but that seeing a movie with a female main character would be a lapse in their masculinity. If this were a male centered movie, would you find a female embarrassed to enter the theater? I doubt it.
Jun 22 - 02:39 PM
agree this review is dumb
Jun 22 - 03:48 PM
Agreed - though I'm not sure if it's more a reflection on the reviewer or on society. Men should not feel embarrassed to watch female main characters, much as women don't feel embarrassed watching male main characters.
Jun 22 - 04:38 PM
You people find sexism in everything. Do girls flock to see The Expendables? Do guys get together to watch The Devil Wears Prada? Men and women have different tastes, that's just the way it is. Grow a pair and stop being so sensitive.
Jun 23 - 06:14 AM
There are always exceptions to this rule. This review IS sexist.
Jun 23 - 07:39 AM
This is not a rule. It is a fact. Men and women are different. They respond to different stimuli and have different preferences. People need to recognize the differences instead of getting offended by it for no reason. Yes, men and women are equal, but that doesn't mean they are the same.
Jun 23 - 11:16 AM
It's true that men and women are different, but this is a movie with a target audience of children, meant to appeal to boys AND girls. Just because there's a female protagonist doesn't mean it's "embarrassing" for men to watch. This is not about the stereotypical tastes of men and women--it's about profiling narratives with female protagonists as relatable only to women and enjoyable only to women. Not to mention that the movie has large elements of action, something stereotypically enjoyed by males. It's insulting for the original reviewer to imply that males would be embarrassed to enter a theater that "entices female viewers".
Jun 23 - 05:14 PM
People are groomed to like specific movies according to their sex--women and chick flicks, dudes and action. This line grossly generalizes men and women's tastes in movies. It is not fact. And I agree with Emma--the film simply has a female protagonist. People need to stop seeing the male protagonist as the neutral slate for any film.
Jun 23 - 08:05 PM
"Men and women are different."
Ugh, knock it off. This schtick wears thin.
To assume that a man wouldn't DREAM of seeing a film involving a female protagonist is to ignore the fact that the majority of films have always had male protagonists, and women have been conditioned through centuries of storytelling to relate to male-helmed stories -- and still, SOMEHOW, magically be able to find the value in them. It's high time for the egalitarianism to flow in the opposite direction, and have males be encouraged to relate to female protagonists. Shockingly, men and womens' interpersonal conflicts aren't as OMG SO DIFFERENT as you traditionalists like to pretend they are.
Then again, I wouldn't expect someone so brazenly proud of gender roles to understand this. Go back to your precious, boy's club, testosterone-sanctioned entertainment, and forget I said anything. You're a lost cause.
Jun 24 - 11:54 AM
Oh, right. The reason males like action is because they are groomed by the evil patriarchy to not like girly things. This is why young boys would rather play with water guns and action figures instead of dolls and tea party sets. We need to make all genders the same by forcing boys to embrace girly things and vice versa. Because gender differences is a socially ingrained concept and has nothing to do with basic biology at all. Can I have some more denial juice please?
Jun 24 - 12:55 PM
@Emma: "It's insulting for the original reviewer to imply that males would be embarrassed to enter a theater that "entices female viewers"."
Many males would be embarrassed if they were caught watching a typical princess movie, something that entices female viewers. The fact that this movie contains action and comedy that appeal to males should be something that discourages them from embarrassment for watching a princess movie. I think this is what the reviewer meant and I see nothing offensive or insulting in that. Again, it's not insulting to imply that males generally feel embarrassed for watching a typical princess movie. It's a true statement.
Jun 24 - 01:38 PM
@ Carson But why do males feel embarrassed to watch a typical princess movie? Does watching a movie about a princess who wants to overcome adversity and live happily ever after strip you of your masculinity?
I'm not gonna argue with you further, because I know I'm not going to change your mind. I don't quite understand how you can ignore the effect society has had on gender roles, and I don't quite understand how you can cling so tightly to such a backwards, sexist viewpoint of the world. (This isn't in reference to your reply to me but to all of your comments.)
Jun 25 - 07:27 AM
@Emma, because that is how boys are. A boy who grows up in a vacuum may react differently, but say if that boy has friends who are boys, then those boys would definitely make fun of that boy for watching princess movies. That is just the way boys are. It's not societal programing -- in fact, society is programming boys to be more like girls. A boy who asserts his masculinity in this society will be stamped with ADD and put on pills until he calms down. If you leave boys to their own devices, they will naturally veer toward masculine things and see embracing femininity as weak. In a perfect world by your definition, maybe boys will not feel embarrassed watching princess movies -- but in this world, they do. And the reviewer was simply being truthful in pointing that out.
This is the truth. It is not "backward". You were programed by society to see gender from an unnatural standpoint, where male and females are the same and should be the same -- it is simply not the case nor is your view natural by any means.
Jun 28 - 12:08 PM
Actually, yes. You took the words right out of my mouth. It is entirely social, not biological. I'm glad I didn't have to line that out for you.
Jul 3 - 11:56 PM
Looks like sarcasm is another part of life that you need to learn, Abigail, because it is absolutely biological and not at all social. Boys veer towards masculine things because of biology, not society. Same with girls and femininity. There is no denying that a boy's body is built for physical challenges (masculinity) while a girl's body is built to comfort and nurture (femininity). There is also no denying that boys and girls brains are naturally wired to function with their bodies. This is why boys usually prefer action movies and girls prefer romantic movies. It can all be traced back to basic human biology.
How girls are being encouraged to act like boys and boys are being encouraged to act like girl nowadays, however, are social changes that are unnatural to basic human psychology. And it doesn't take a genius to see the negative repercussions of that in modern society.
Jul 6 - 12:27 PM
Actually women DID flock to see The Expendables. In fact, they made up 40% of ticket sales, at least according to this article from The Christian Science Monitor. (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0816/The-Expendables-tops-Eat-Pray-Love-death-of-the-chick-flick)
I also seem to recall that Fast Five had a significant female viewership, though I don't have a link to support that, nor do I feel the need to provide one.
Jun 23 - 05:24 PM
I wouldn't call 40% flocking. Also they were most likely on dates.
Jun 24 - 12:41 PM
I can only assume that you're trolling me at this point.
Jun 24 - 02:40 PM
I agree with Will, this review is grossly sexist.
Glad the kilt-lifting entertained the "male contingent" within you Or did you mistake that for another complexity in storyline?
Jun 23 - 05:06 PM
So, this is what happens when you are rushed to right a review on deadline. Yes, I used a poor choice of words. What I was trying to convey ? and this will probably get me in more trouble ? was that YOUNG BOYS could enjoy the movie and not feel self-conscious about rooting for or appreciating a female protagonist. I was not talking about ADULT MALES. Yes, I should have made myself clearer, but when you are writing at 1 a.m. Thursday and an editor is holding a page for you, stuff happens. I apologize to anyone who was offended.
Jun 23 - 09:37 PM
It makes no difference whether you were talking about young boys or adult males. Young boys who are taught that they can only enjoy a movie with a female protagonist if it has action and low-brow humor grow up to be adult men who think the same way.
Jun 24 - 05:20 AM
Who "taught" these young boys to not like girly things, Lacy? Was it their basic biological instincts? Or was it the evil patriarchy that "taught" them to not want to watch movies like The Devil Wears Prada or any other chick flicks.
Jun 24 - 01:07 PM
No need to apologize, Bob. People with common sense knew exactly what you meant. It's these delusional self-deniers who were conditioned at a young age to disregard basic gender differences who are at fault.
Jun 24 - 12:58 PM
That's right; be proud that the (incorrect) stereotype of your gender involves boorish, unrefined trappings, and the acute inability to pay attention to anything not involving violence, mammaries, and farting. Let's uh, celebrate this. Yes.
No, I'm proud that the stereotype for my gender is that it discovered, invented, and built the civilization that you're allowed to enjoy today.
Jun 24 - 01:43 PM
... How the hell do you both discover a civilization, and then build it? Like every other xenophobic "biology"-thumper I've ever met, you are perfectly content to take credit for the men who came before you, and were clearly a lot smarter than you are. Nice try.
Mr. Bloom, I actually read your review and I can see what your intentions were; it was just this one pesky sentence that ended up getting all the attention. You've since apologized for your all-inclusive wording like an adult, so please don't feel like this is being directed at you.
Jun 24 - 02:09 PM
Who discovered the country you're living in? Invented the computer you're typing on? And built the house, desk, chair that contain you? Smarten up, Avery. These are all the qualities associated with masculinity. Even today, men are constantly inventing and building the world around you. I'm sorry that you are indoctrinated by the media to think we're bumbling idiots, but in reality we are the creators of civilizations and societies as you know it today.
Jun 24 - 02:58 PM
I suggest that everyone stop responding to Carson, because his mind simply isn't going to be changed. It's sickening to see such a blatantly sexist mindset, but no one's going to change it, which is sad but unavoidable.
Jun 25 - 07:37 AM
How am I sexist? Please point out what I said that was disparaging to the female sex. That's right, I have said nothing wrong. I simply stated how boys and girls are different. Acknowledging gender differences is not being sexist. You need to stop being so sensitive and embrace the truth.
Jun 28 - 12:10 PM
He's trolling and rolling ;-)
Jul 3 - 11:58 PM
When you are unable to make one valid argument, accuse the other person of trolling. Nicely done.
Jul 6 - 12:13 PM
"Please point out what I said that was disparaging to the female sex."
Really now, Carson, don't do this. You were doing so well with the trolling a week ago, but now you're just getting desperate. The train's stopped, kiddo. You can go home now.
Jul 6 - 03:06 PM
Like I said. Point it out. Otherwise, you have been completely schooled in a logical argument, trolling or not.
Jul 6 - 07:30 PM