Total Recall: Star Wars - The Tomatometer Strikes Back
Summary
The animated Clone Wars releases into theaters this Friday, and though rebel critics may be giving it a current drubbing, Star Wars releases are always pop culture events. Especially when this one looks to be series' final theatrical release for the foreseeable future. Rotten Tomatoes takes stock of the George Lucas franchise, arranging the installment of history's most celebrated space opera by Tomatometer. Back to Article
The animated Clone Wars releases into theaters this Friday, and though rebel critics may be giving it a current drubbing, Star Wars releases are always pop culture events. Especially when this one looks to be series' final theatrical release for the foreseeable future. Rotten Tomatoes takes stock of the George Lucas franchise, arranging the installment of history's most celebrated space opera by Tomatometer. Back to Article
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phyzass writes: on Aug 13 2008 05:53 PM It's like after the original 3 came to theaters back in the day, Lucas got overconfident, less creative, and/or just stopped trying. He doesn't care about reviews, he's rich! Will there ever be anyone to revive Star Wars? C'mon, CGI??? We must be at the lowest point, the old puppets were better. I got an idea, make a "dark jedi knight", remove every actor except guys who played obi wan and emperor...insert more quality actors, let chris nolan direct it - less light sabers, less special effects, less flamboyant jumpy moves, and more blood. Anyone? (Reply to this) |
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maxo writes: on Aug 13 2008 05:58 PM It wasn't subtitled episode IV. That was added later. Just like Han firing second instead of first and a lot of other things. Just like anakin skywalker being ERASED from return of the jedi and being replaced with the new young actor. Lucas made 2 good star wars movies and 2 half of good star wars movies. The rest sucked horribly including the last half of Star Wars "VI". Clone Wars on Cartoon network actually wasn't bad. Too bad the movie is going to suck. (Reply to this) |
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maxo writes: on Aug 13 2008 05:59 PM It wasn't subtitled episode IV. That was added later. Just like Han firing second instead of first and a lot of other things. Just like anakin skywalker being ERASED from return of the jedi and being replaced with the new young actor. Lucas made 2 good star wars movies and 2 half of good star wars movies. The rest sucked horribly including the last half of Star Wars "VI". Clone Wars on Cartoon network actually wasn't bad. Too bad the movie is going to suck. (Reply to this) |
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rustique writes: on Aug 13 2008 06:07 PM Clone Wars looks like **** for a feature film great for a videogame cutscenes It would have been cool to see Clone Wars done right. Everything's been a disaster since episode 1, except for rogue leader for the gamecube. (Reply to this) |
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Orga777 writes: on Aug 13 2008 06:44 PM Why is Return of the Jedi have a lower Tomato-meter score than Revenge of the Sith? Were the critics drunk or something? Return of the Jedi is actually really, really good. The only complain people can possibly have about it has to be Ewoks. But come on, that is a stupid reason to hate the film. At least it is better than Gungans and Battle Droids... (Reply to this) |
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jokerboy1991 writes: on Aug 13 2008 07:00 PM I hate how Lucas doesnt give a shi.t on what Star War fans and Indy fans think, even though there the ones who made him so rich and famous. I hated Episode 2 it was so corny (worst dialogue), Episdoe 1 kinda good but dissapointing, Episode III was a big improvemant even though Hayden Christen was flat at times but he made an improvemant from episode II. Ill rent the animated Star Wars when it comes to video, man does the animation look crappy. (Reply to this) |
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daniel.wolfe writes: on Aug 13 2008 07:36 PM You know what, this Return of the Jedi score is crap. When I first started coming to Rotten Tomato a few years back it was in the 90% range. I am not sure if it got a new score with the release of the DVDs but it was higher before. From the reviews I've read about the Clone Wars, the Star Wars fans like it... The normal critics don't. I could care less what critics think anyways. Those who do things do them. Those who don't do anything become critics. (Reply to this) |
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TombstoneLawDog writes: on Aug 13 2008 07:37 PM In reply to this comment (#1979442) Maxo- actually, it said 'Episode IV' in the original release. That wasn't among the absurd 'tweaks' that Lucas forced on us in '97. I think this is actually the first RT list that I almost completely agree with, start to finish, though I *might* have problems with RoTS beating RoTJ. ..Mostly because I am that guy for whom RoTJ was my favorite movie. Not a superior film, just the most satisfying to the 6-year old kid I was when it came out. Vocab Lesson #2: it's spelled 'improvement' (Reply to this) |
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chewie louie writes: on Aug 13 2008 07:43 PM In reply to this comment (#1979574) Star Wars WAS NOT sub-titled 'Episode IV' in the original release. (Reply to this) |
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fluxboy writes: on Aug 13 2008 07:49 PM So, wait, hold on .. Jar Jar was ultimately responsible for the decimation of the Jedis when he granted emergency power to Palpatine? Damn that Jar Jar. Damn him all to Hell. (Reply to this) |
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slimwrench writes: on Aug 13 2008 07:51 PM jokerboy- I couldn't agree more. One of the first scenes in episode II- when obi and anakin are in the elevator going to see padme... I think that scene has some of the worst acting I have ever seen. Episode II had the chance to be incredible but a science fiction movie like this needs great actors or the dialogue is going to seem ridiculous. Hayden falls way short of the mark in Episode II- making the love story feel really creepy and one-sided. As a fairly new star wars fan I get pretty excited about new star wars books/ movies- but I am not at all excited about this movie. Recent books have been horrible. And if Lucas keeps this assembly line of trash coming through, instead of well thought out philosophical jedi/ sith relationship and visually stunning movies- it is going to be a huge disappointment- at least for me. thanks for reading, (Reply to this) |
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The Vile writes: on Aug 13 2008 07:59 PM I like how the holiday special image looks like a photo copy scanned in. that's all it deserves really. and yeah, i read somewhere that 'EPISODE IV' was only added in the theatrical re-release and on VHS. Empire was the first to be officially numbered. (Reply to this) |
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DarthWonka writes: on Aug 13 2008 09:10 PM The Return of the Jedi trailer was pretty bad. "The cunning of the enemy" - cut to C-3PO falling from the sail barge. Btw, the trailer for The Phantom Menace is still one of the greats. The movie, on the other hand, (Reply to this) |
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Snailbarf writes: on Aug 13 2008 09:17 PM In reply to this comment (#1979451) As a long time fan, I have finally had enough. Won't be watching this one, or the series. If they would have set the show in the far flung past with entirely new characters, I'd have stayed interested. (Reply to this) |
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thobie1 writes: on Aug 13 2008 09:25 PM I want my 8 minutes 31 seconds back of watching the beginning of that holiday special. That has got to be one of the worst Star Wars adaptations ever, although my 7 year old sat there through the whole thing interested. Time to get him some new hobbies! (Reply to this) |
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Hypoxic writes: on Aug 13 2008 10:00 PM I've never seen this, but Battle for Endor kicks arse. (Reply to this) |
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scriptdoctor writes: on Aug 14 2008 08:21 AM You can find the "Holiday Special" around if you look hard enough. It is terrible -- the first 8 minutes are essentially Chewie's wife, father-in-law and son -- I kid you not -- growling at each other while they go about their business in the kitchen and living room sections of their hut. Oh, and there's no English subtitles. Just growling. Mark Hamill has so much makeup on that you think he was moonlighting as Frank'n'Furter from Rocky Horror. Carrie Fisher looks like she's strung out on drugs...and she sings in this too I believe. I could go on... but this is one film that must be seen in order to be believed. It makes a great double feature with the Turkish Star Wars. (Reply to this) |
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rickxcx writes: on Aug 14 2008 08:28 AM itīs really a shame... what happened to star wars??...i grew up watching this movies, im a consolidated fan...please mr.lucas...give us something to look for, to crave for...to love again (Reply to this) |
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rickxcx writes: on Aug 14 2008 08:30 AM itīs really a shame... what happened to star wars??...i grew up watching this movies, im a consolidated fan...please mr.lucas...give us something to look for, to crave for...to love again (Reply to this) |
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CoreyT writes: on Aug 14 2008 09:44 AM In reply to this comment (#1979574) A few years later it was. (Reply to this) |
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Derbeste writes: on Aug 14 2008 10:11 AM To the people arguing over whether or not Episode IV was named as such in its original release.... The movie was simply called "Star Wars".... But when the movie start and the trademark "3D" text started to roll, it did display "Episode IV: A New Hope". So while not in the actual title, the original Star Wars was advertised as the 4th installment right from the beginning. (Reply to this) |
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Spectremjm writes: on Aug 14 2008 10:39 AM As far as the overall rankings go, I can't argue much, though I personally think AOTC is better than Jedi (I never bought the Vader redemption ending, even growing up). But as others have pointed out, some of the assertions or commentary re: the movies are not accurate. There was no Episode IV tag thrown on the original movie (thus, why us old-timers still refer to it mostly as "Star Wars") and the assertion that the Bush administration's misadventures are a major influence on the prequels. Lucas has said repeatedly that wasn't the case. He was focusing in on how democracies die and Empires rise in their wake. (Reply to this) |
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billyk28 writes: on Aug 14 2008 10:54 AM Star Wars should have been what lord of the Rings was. The most frustrating thing from watching episodes I to III was how much cool $hit there was in every film, that just got canceled out by a lot of very bad stuff. I would almost accept it more if it were ALL bad, but watching the Darth Maul fight with that crazy Duel of the Fates music in the background being intertwined with that ridiculous Gungan battle was just frustrating, knowing the man clearly has the talent to keep us on the edge of our seats IF he chooses to. Can you just imagine how badly Star Wars would have kicked a$$ had it been given the Peter Jackson treatment? Had it been given that level of maturity and darkness instead of being a series made to please EVERYONE? If you think about it, LOTR had some corny dialog too, probably more if read on paper, but the level of the actors and direction made you buy into every word that was spoken. The thing is Lucas is not a bad writer in the least. The original Star Wars novel was written by him and if you read it, the guy clearly knows what he's doing. I would fully be willing to wait another 15 years and have him hand over the reigns to someone else, and just redo the "first" 3 films as if the latest trilogy had never happened. You just look at how good the two latest Batman films were, and it wouldn't be a bad idea at all. (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 14 2008 11:43 AM Goddamnit. OK.... Here is the FACT: There was NO mention of "Episode IV" or "A New Hope" during the opening crawl of the film at the time of it's intial release in 1978. That was added during the second theatrical run in 1981 which coincided with the intial theatrical release of "The Empire Strikes Back." It then appear in all subsequent theatrical releases and all home video releases until the 2006 "Limited Edition" run which contained the as of 2004 special editions, and the "Original un-edited" theatrical edition... at least that's what Lucasfilm wants you to think... with the exception of the opening crawl these are actually from the 1993 Laserdisc release, they had to go back to original prints to get the opening crawl without "Episode IV: A New Hope" because that's the only place it existed, but since Lucas notoriously hates the original version and never wanted to do this in the first place, they didn't consider it worth their while to clean up any of the rest of the truely original material for this release. (Reply to this) |
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patmweav writes: on Aug 14 2008 11:54 AM In reply to this comment (#1979442) it was added in 1980 before the release of the empire strikes back (Reply to this) |
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dlpfis writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:06 PM It was IV from the get go. I remember always wondering what the first 3 episodes were about. As with many things in life, I've learned the hard fact that some things are best left unanswered. (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:08 PM Also... "The Ewok Adventure" or "Ewok Adventures: Caravan of Courage" as they now like to call it... is far from being a masterpiece, but seeing the Christmas Special above it on the tomatometer made me die a little inside. (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:12 PM In reply to this comment (#1980726) "It was IV from the get go. I remember always wondering what the first 3 episodes were about. As with many things in life, I've learned the hard fact that some things are best left unanswered." ...yes you remember that ever since 1981, just like the rest of us. Because if you have seen the movie in ANY form since 1981 except for the "Original Un-Edited Theatrical Release" that was included with the 2006 Limited Edition... it was there. I've already explained this, it's absolutely true, if you want me to cite sources I can, but it's not that important. I just get agervated when people are 100% convinced of something that's catagorically untrue... it's a personality flaw I know. (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:14 PM For the record here's a http (Reply to this) |
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dahluzz writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:16 PM was "episode IV" in the original or not?! I haven't heard this much argumentation from star wars dweebs since the debate over 'empire' versus 'jedi' (i've always been a 'jedi' guy myself). what i do notice is that nobody's offering any web sources to support their claims, making me think they're pretty unsubstantiated. if you guys are so convinced you're right, post a link and let's settle this! and yes, i'm aware that posting on a star wars message board makes me a dweeb too, and i've come to terms with that. (Reply to this) |
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dahluzz writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:19 PM In reply to this comment (#1980753) ...as i was typing that (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:20 PM It's ok, dahluzz. I've come to terms with the fact that I'm sitting at work getting worked up about this means my job sucks worse than I thought it did. Thank God my contract is up at the end of the year. (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:30 PM In reply to this comment (#1980759) I was actually deliberately avoiding posting a source, because I didn't want to look like the kind of dork that would actually put forth the effort of looking that up... but sadly I'm exactly that kind of dork. (Reply to this) |
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Mr. Dufresne writes: on Aug 14 2008 12:33 PM My ranking of the films is: 1. The Empire Strikes Back 2. Star Wars 3. Revenge of the Sith 4. Return of the Jedi 5. The Phantom Menace 6. Attack of the Clones Though every now and then, 'Sith' and 'Jedi' switch places on my list. (Reply to this) |
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highdough writes: on Aug 14 2008 01:36 PM Star Wars started to lose me a bit when Boba Fett ended up being a belch of that sand vagina. And I cringed when the ghost of Obiwan walked out of the jungle, sat down (??) and explained to Luke that he is actually part of the cast of a soap opera ("Oh, she's my long, long twin sister..."). And when Vader was unmasked it was pretty much ruined. It's not like I was out of the age bracket for the movies, either when Return of the Jedi was released. I was 12. (Reply to this) |
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josuepilk writes: on Aug 14 2008 01:45 PM I know the Ewok Adventure was a poorly made movie, but are you serious with a higher-rated Holiday Special? You know what it reminds me of? Those Fairy Tale Theater episodes with Shelley Duval. I swear that was Robin Williams as the green ring-leader guy on Chewy's "TV." Not even a strong dose of acid could make that entertaining...well, maybe a little. (Reply to this) |
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Sputnik99 writes: on Aug 14 2008 01:54 PM Lucas has ruined Star Wars. It used to be Science Fiction perfection. The movies that no other science fiction movie could even compare to. And then Lucas made the "Special Editions", which did them more harm than good. Then the prequels came out, Ep. 1 was HORRIBLE, Ep. 2 started to get a little feeling of Star Wars back, but it was SO CHEESY, and then Ep. III, the best prequel, but IMO, WAY overrated. I used to love Star Wars, watching the trilogy a couple of times a year. Now...Now I just don't want to any more. That really hurts, ya know? (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 14 2008 02:19 PM In reply to this comment (#1980946) "...started to lose me a bit when Boba Fett ended up being a belch of that sand vagina..." ...as if this thread hasn't already made look like big enough of a nerd... Actually within the Star Wars continuity, Boba Fett actually survives (keep in mind it takes the Sand Vaginia 1000 years to digest... which stopped making sence when they made it fast moving in the Special Edition...) and escapes by blasting his way out of the Sand Vagina's anus (that's probably the most horrible sounding thing I've ever typed), thus proving that he is in fact as big of a bad *** as everyone thought. (Reply to this) |
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-apocolyptic- writes: on Aug 14 2008 02:20 PM I don't know if this is an actual copy or not, but there is almost no space between STAR WARS and when the crawl starts. I also remember having this "discussion" with a friend who claimed that it was always there, knowing it wasn't. I did find on answer on STARWARS.com, in the "ask the jedi council" section. Unfortunately, they have changed the website since joining with yahoo that it may take me a bit to find it again. Love STAR WARS, but Lucas can't seem to keep his story straight about how long it was suppossed to be. But in many of the interviews he claims that he never expected the original to go past one movie. So it seems resonable to suggest that he wouldn't put an illusion to other movies knowing he might not make them. If I remember correctly it wasn't until April (12-14th?) 1981 that the "episode IV" part was added. (Reply to this) |
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-apocolyptic- writes: on Aug 14 2008 02:39 PM h Found it on wookieepedia (Reply to this) |
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opTIMus Nerd writes: on Aug 14 2008 02:43 PM My Star Wars love knows no limits. While I see all the problems people have with then new films and the additions to the originals none of that has ever bothered me. I still quite like even the Phantom Menace and enjoy all the new stuff as much as the old. No ruined memories, childhoods and so forth and the only time it's a problem is when someone who is/was/remains SOOO disappointed gets upset and have to fight about it. I say relax everyone! It doesn't matter in the slightest when exactly "episode IV" was added to the original...It simply doesn't... /realizes this is the internet Scratch that...JAR-JAR RUINEDSA MYSA CHILDHOODSA!!! (Reply to this) |
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Floor Man writes: on Aug 14 2008 04:14 PM Han shot first...FIRST! In the original release, he did, not in the newest ones. Oh, and the Star Wars Holiday Special is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. Please, please make GOOD spin-off TV shows based off of the Old Republic era.... :/ (Reply to this) |
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hevlarxis writes: on Aug 14 2008 04:33 PM Brian, did you notice that everything that transpired in those three films, and I mean everything, can be attributed to the actions of one very minor character? Who? The gunner on the Star Destroyer at the beginning of the first film. How come? Well. Hmmhmmhmm. Because, if the gunner had shot the pod that C-3P0 and R2 were in, they wouldn't have got to Tatooine, they wouldn't have met Luke, Luke wouldn't have met Ben, they wouldn't have met Han and Chewie, they wouldn't have rescued Princess Leia. None of it would have happened. (Reply to this) |
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RexLaboro writes: on Aug 14 2008 04:42 PM The 64% fresh rating for Phantom Menace is a pitty rating. People wanted to like the return of star wars so bad that they were in denial. It should be re-reveiwed and given the 35% it deserves. (Reply to this) |
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willpower writes: on Aug 14 2008 04:58 PM The new versus the old SW is all about the actors. The original cast (especially Mark Hamil) held it together dispite the cheesy dialogue. They made it work. The new ones can't. I mean, really, the writing is just about the same except maybe Empire which is a step above. (Reply to this) |
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Neonknight writes: on Aug 14 2008 05:13 PM There was a newer Star Wars trilogy? :| (Reply to this) |
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southparkfanciz writes: on Aug 14 2008 05:51 PM If only Lucas had somehow found a way to skip the first two episodes and just made Revenge of the Sith, Star wars would be fine.....oh and terminate the Clone wars too. (Reply to this) |
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RT-Ryan writes: on Aug 14 2008 06:04 PM For the record, you guys were right. The original 1977 print of Star Wars didn't carry the Episode IV subtitle, which only appeared after Empire came out (with the Episode V subtitle, which confused some moviegoers) and they re-released Star Wars in 1981. Still, a pretty bold and brilliant move on Lucas's part. (Reply to this) |
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bertrumredneck writes: on Aug 14 2008 06:40 PM It's sad that adults take Star Wars so seriously and actually have arguments about a bunch FAMILY-DISNEY type movies!!! Kids don't even argue like most of you embarassments. I like all six movies. Anyone that puts AOTC above TPM is a moron. (Reply to this) |
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Sputnik99 writes: on Aug 14 2008 09:19 PM In reply to this comment (#1981550) You obviously weren't there, dude. You have no conception of just how big Star Wars really was, back in the 70's and 80's. It was the best thing, being a kid, growing up in that time. You youngin's really missed somethin' special. (Gad, that makes me sound old). All you can do is compare the movies to how they don't match up to today's CGI effects, and not recognize their revolutionary greatness. They were NEVER considered "Disney"-Movies. If I may be so bold: If you didn't grow up in the 80's, you'll never know what you're talking about concerning the original trilogy, so just zip it. (Reply to this) |
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Sputnik99 writes: on Aug 14 2008 09:21 PM Oh, and that's why "Us Adults" take Star Wars so seriously. (Reply to this) |
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ninja13 writes: on Aug 14 2008 09:29 PM I think Phantom menace was by far best quite possibly the only one that was ever any good. Star Wars has always been extremely over-rated. The last two were terrible. The trailer of a-of the-c told the story of the movie, the center point being the (could-not-care-less) romance of Anikan and Padme. The best thing to be said about this list is it's interesting to see the evolution of trailers from back in the day. What's up with Luke's blue lightsaber in the ROTJ trailer. The aotc trailer is almost as bad as the rotj trailer. I don't think the considered title "Revenge of the jedi' was such a bad idea. The last fight of episode 1 was terrific. (Reply to this) |
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kasaar writes: on Aug 14 2008 10:41 PM Ya know, in Episode IV the CLONE WARS sounded REALLY cool. But the direction Lucas went seems like he wants to redeem his heroes and make us emotionally connect to the brave / cool halo-like clones who put the smackdown on the Jedi's and end up becoming stormtroopers. Don't forget the brave young Jedi who is bi-polar and decides to SLAUGHTER his homies. This movie as well as Ep I&II are like Bin Laden: The Early Years..we follow him heroically fending off the Soviets "yippie" while getting help from John Rambo. KID: Wow, mommy the orange Jedi chick was pretty cool! MOMMY: Yeah but Anakin eventually rips her a new one. So don't expect to see her again. And I'm not getting the action figure cause this is retarded and I don't want you to be one. KID: .....wtf? (Reply to this) |
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Comradebot writes: on Aug 15 2008 01:18 AM Gotta disagree with phyzass... turning Star Wars into the current Batman movies isn't the way to go. Really, the only problem lies with the characters. And its not so much that its the characters themselves, as much as its the way they're handled. Had Jar Jar Binks been a bit more serious and not as over the top obnoxious, than even he could've been a compelling character. Hell, he could've been a substitute for C-3P0 and it would've been fine. The CGI battles and over the top lightsaber duels are great and all, but they do little to make me forget that Darth Maul is one of the blandest villains of all time along side Megatron in the terrible Transformers movie and Arnold Schwarzanegger as Mr. Freeze. Make me care about the people in the lightsaber duel and I'll be happy, Mr. Lucas. As with Darth Maul, I only appreciated him when he died as it promised he wouldn't show up in Episode II. (Reply to this) |
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Product_of_You writes: on Aug 15 2008 02:14 AM The last three films all have a score higher than what they deserve. I will say that in my opinion Attack of the Clones is the worst, and deserves around a high 30s score. (Reply to this) |
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crystalwhiteeyes writes: on Aug 15 2008 04:33 AM you know I'm starting to wonder.....does Star Wars suck?? Episodes 4-6 are classics. Anything surrounding those films whether big or small just sucks! Lucas my boy.....just stop working and retire already. No one wants to see "your" projects. Your ruining everything!!! (Reply to this) |
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naverillsn001 writes: on Aug 15 2008 06:03 AM Ladies... you are ALL right. In 1977, it was titled "Star Wars," no subtitle. HOWEVER, from the very first release, the title "Episode IV: A New Hope" appeared at the top of the scrolling prologue at the start of the film. (Reply to this) |
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bertrumredneck writes: on Aug 15 2008 06:26 AM I've seen Star Wars since way back in 1980 on HBO. I remember very well that all anyone (us kids) talked about were the battles, ships and lightsabers. Not freaking dialogue, acting styles and anything else an adult would do. I did remember when I was 12, saying to myself as I watched Empire and Jedi "These movies are great but they don't feel like those Oscar movies I've seen like Amadeus and Godfather. The acting feels different." And I left it at that. Back in 1987!!!! So even I knew, at the age of 12, that every single Star Wars movie NEVER, EVER made acting such a monumental distraction. Now it's an absoulute ADULT GEEK obsession!!! (Reply to this) |
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mightyfooda writes: on Aug 15 2008 07:43 AM The Holiday special does suck, but people have too find the first appearance of Boba Fett Cartoon that was in there. It kicked ***! You can find it on youtube. Now for all you people bashing on Lucas. The guy made the movies he wanted too make, get over it. Everyone talks about how everyone hates the "prequels" but when they came out everyone loved em and they all got "fresh reviews". Ya the dialogue is awful, but anyone who says the entire second half of Attack of the Clones or the majority of non Jar Jar Menace sucked are just being pretentious whiners jumping on the "bash Lucas" band wagon. It's no secret that Clone Wars is just the first 3 episodes of a Cartoon Network series, anyone who thought it was going to be great is retarded. The ones that get me the most are the ones that whine,"I'll see it but I know it's going too suck." If you hate these movies so much why do you keep watching them?? Sure the first trilogy was better, but did anyone expect them not too be? Most people were kids when they saw them, they idea was fresher, and since Star Wars was the first action Sci Fi movie of any worth, and now decent sci fi flicks have been consistently coming out the past 20 years, we are more jaded. You hate on Lucas but he is partially responsible for every great film that has EFX in it. Movies like T2, that used a program created by PIXAR, which was at the time still owned by Lucas. Jurassic Park, or any other movie assisted by ILM. The guy revolutionized the way movies were made. And the guy had too pay for the new Star Wars movies by himself, so as much as the rereleases irked me, I didn't mind because they paid for the new moives too be made. It's not like he's Roland Emmirich for christ's sake. If you don't like what he does, that's cool. But why the hate? You can't tell me every Star Wars movie (the real ones) weren't at least worth the price of admission? Don't be so pompous. (Reply to this) |
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UMB writes: on Aug 15 2008 09:21 AM In reply to this comment (#1979436) I'm with you there, man. (Reply to this) |
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highdough writes: on Aug 15 2008 10:31 AM In reply to this comment (#1981550) Please, please, please tell me you were trying to be funny with that last line. If not, your post is unintentionally hilarious. (Reply to this) |
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kasaar writes: on Aug 15 2008 10:49 AM Story wise the prequels were pretty lame. Episode III was decent but just shy of Jedi. Again, you really couldn't connect to the characters. It was more dramatic when Mace Windu died than the death of Padme and the transformation of A-dog into Vader. EP I Had the opening scene which was cool and the final duel. EP II Had Yoda do his thing (all too briefly)and made me giggle like a kid again. All in all the prequels were pretty much a failure as far as the narrative went. It hurt me and I was in denial, it was like dealing with breakup. Well, I have SW, ESB and 75% of ROTJ to TRULY enjoy. And yes the Ewoks were truly the worst part of Jedi. However, seeing Luke give the signal, R2 in position, Luke catching and igniting the green saber for the first time always give me chills. After the speeder bike chase the film switches back and forth between kid friendly crumminess and spectacular Star Wars action and story. (Reply to this) |
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JabbatheHutt15 writes: on Aug 15 2008 11:54 AM I personally think Return of the Jedi was great. I do not understand why the critics thought it was better than ROTS. Just because I have loved star wars practically forever, I will go see the Clone Wars movie, but I do not expect to watch the series. (Reply to this) |
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phyzass writes: on Aug 15 2008 12:07 PM In reply to this comment (#1981996) Ok, turning ep. 1,2, and 3 into a ''complete batman lookalike no, but making them a little darker and serious would be extra cool. I think there was more to it than the characters being bad though...such as the script lol. It was so elementary...yes, no, happy, sad...mad. And also the constant light saber battles were so numerous and fancy, that it got old fast...and like you said, made darth mauls battle kind of suck. To care about a light saber battle...reference empire strikes back...basically no light saber battles then you get one awesome one in the end. The vader/luke battle was so compelling because they built it up little by little instead of just throwing a bunch of it in your face for the entire movie doing the same thing in the end. Of course none of what we say will change what's already sucked...but it's certainly fun to imagine when I'm at work doing absolutely nothing. Imagine...star wars ep 1, 2, and 3...being as good as the oldies...imagine...a new director. Imagine them not even releasing clone wars...star wars has slowly but surely turned itself into a kiddie sell out. Now I can only look forward to video games that have little lucas influence like force unleashed. (Reply to this) |
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bethehero7404 writes: on Aug 15 2008 01:09 PM hmmm, remake the series with Christopher Nolan as director? Written by David Goyer? What a concept. (Reply to this) |
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bobproper writes: on Aug 15 2008 01:14 PM I for one agree that Revenge of the Sith is a better movie than Return of the Jedi. There's a lot of nostalgia for me and RotJ, as I saw it for the first time when I was 10 years old, and loved it. But after reviewing them side by side recently I got to say the RotS is the better of the 2. (Reply to this) |
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macbeth2279 writes: on Aug 15 2008 03:23 PM In reply to this comment (#1979436) The problem with Lucas is that he thinks he knows what people like. He's stuck in the era of big budget Hollywood blockbusters and everything that entails there cliches. Don't get me wrong blockbusters come and go every summer but Lucas is stuck thinking that the only thing people want to see are cool action scenes, explosions, stupid one liners, and the occasional lovable kids character aka Jar-Jar Binks. Unfortunatly for some this works, but the world has matured movie-wise; story-line, quality-acting and script-writing have become more prevalent in movies labeled "quality" take The Dark Knight for or Casino Royale for example. Both films are labeled blockbusters but include great plot elements and good acting, not just **** blowing up. Until Lucas wakes up and realizes the 80's are over hes only gonna have his fan boys to defend him. (Reply to this) |
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dewit8 writes: on Aug 15 2008 04:37 PM Don't you guys know what happened? George Lucas created something even he couldn't control--movie marketing. That's why Jedi felt like it took a slight downturn. The Ewoks helped get the kids in the seats. Same with Jar Jar and Gungans. I'm sure 20th Century Fox had a hand in that. And if you watch the prequels closely, you can see Lucas' hand in them. Here's what I love about the them: 1) Take Jar Jar out of #1 and you have a good setup story. You see Qui-Gon pull some great moves, like the lightsaber burning through the door. You also have the great duel and the dual saber of Darth Maul. The pod races are great! My only real complaint other than the hokey writing (which is in all the movies) is I felt Anakin should have gotten angry at the end and used the Force accidentally to save Padme, not the Last Starfighter ending. That would have shown how the future Anakin let his feelings control the Force. 2) We all the second pic in a threequel is the bridge flick. But this also brought great moments. The chase and bar scene bring in the Lucas humor, you get to see Palpatine starting to shape Anakin's thoughts, and the last half hour when the Jedi go to war, keeps you on the edge of your seat. 3) Yes, ROTS is the best. And we all know the good scenes in this, so no need to rehash. One change I would make--When Anakin's lights up his lightsaber to begin killing the Jedi, I wish the color would have changed to red, to show just how much a Jedi and their lightsaber feed off of each other. (Reply to this) |
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talkingsock writes: on Aug 15 2008 04:42 PM The whole problem is that after Strikes Back Lucas started to think he was god and it has continually gotten worse. He also took himself and the movies waaaay too serious. The Jedi stuff can't be taken that serious, it's a bit hockey frankly. This is not Plato and neither is he. They're imaginative, interesting movies that take you somewhere else that is sort of dream like and not a real place. Return of the Jedi could have been a great movie if he got someone to help again with the writing. The Ewoks are bad but my god, another death star? Worst example ever of taken people's money with the same story as the first movie. Why not make them go in and attack the emporer to try to kill him as well as Darth Vador. Then get someone in to sharpen up the dialogue. It'd be twice as good. I loved it when I was a kid but watching it now it really isn't that good. It could have been so much more. The 3 prequels, especially the first 2, were just hideous and truly awful movies. I admit they looked real nice in places but the acting, story and dialogue are just so bad. I don't see any going back and saving Stars Wars. Maybe in 50 years they'll do a bunch of remakes and fix all the problems. (Reply to this) |
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justinld writes: on Aug 16 2008 08:56 AM Wow, Revenge of the Sith was in the 70 percentile? That movie was horrible in my opinion. One minute Anakin's helpin the good guys and 5 minutes later all of a sudden hes choppin up little boys. And 'a couple groan worthy lines'? The entire movie was groan worthy. Id say its probably the best of the original trilogy, but I wouldnt give it above a 50% (Reply to this) |
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Kevin E. writes: on Aug 16 2008 10:22 AM In reply to this comment (#1980997) Your my hero (Reply to this) |
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IriathZhul writes: on Aug 16 2008 12:22 PM I grew up loving Star Wars, even though my original "Star Wars experience" involved commercial-laced video-taped summer showings from the late nineties. However, I loved all the movies, the epic drama, and, of course, the gorgeous saber fights. Now, I feel obligated to say that the prequel trilogy is not as bad as so many people try to make it sound. With so many deep, dark, brooding, movies coming out in these years, it seems like everyone is holding Star Wars to the same standard, as if it were supposed to have the same "wumph" as other movies like Eastern Promises, Blood Diamond, Capote, and Pan's Labyrinth... Star Wars is still a sci-fi, action movie! While a certain unnamed individual portraying Anakin Skywalker (ages 17-30 something) certainly hampers II and III, it doesn't doom them. The movies still have impact, CGI beauty, drama, tragedy... Just because they aren't a biting political commentary or gratuitously gritty does NOT mean they were shoddily done. However...this "Clone Wars" debacle of late has me worried. What were those people thinking? Animated? The original TV show was bad enough. (Reply to this) |
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Cyruis writes: on Aug 16 2008 12:48 PM How is return of the Jedi behind the revenge of the ageisty sith!?!?!?!?! (Reply to this) |
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phyzass writes: on Aug 16 2008 01:52 PM I heard from a recent CNN report that an investigation was done on how the prequel trilogy came to making. The papers said Lucas funded the whole project, but it turns out all of his funding was being funneled to a sith lord who was left to write the script and direct the movies. Lucas apparentally did not know that the Sith lord would write and direct them to suck. The Sith took half the 95% of the money (originally given to make a good movie) and fled...rumored to be hiding out in the far reaches of naboo. Lucas then replaced this sith lord with another sith lord to make an animated clone wars film. This sith lord has fled as well... Lucas is now hiring to help write and direct his new project with all the popular star wars characters returning as babies for a movie Star Wars Disgruntled Babies. (Reply to this) |
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K7Leetha writes: on Aug 16 2008 04:00 PM Movies are supposed to be watched in order to know if it's going to be liked or not. I think it's fair to say everyone has enjoyed a movie and disagreed with someone else about it, and disliked a movie and disagreed with someone else about it. Everyone has an opinion about movies, that's called humanity, so bear with me on this but let's see if I have this right: *People get paid large amounts of money for their ^opinion^ of a movie. *These people join together to put their opinions together. *This combination creates a rating system that rates how good or bad a movie is, based on the average. *People will see or not see something based on this rating system, but the only people who will use the rating system are people who are like minded in the system, (i.e. people who trust and/or want to be critics). *People uninterested in ratings or critics will see the movie anyway. Ultimately, it looks as if it's a self defeating mechanism; The idea to make as much money as possible, by eliminating ticket purchasers of people who are the types that would spend more money seeing a good movie again, they're cutting profits AND dismissing an opportunity for word of mouth and possible further publication if the movie warranted any good reviews. (Yes, I see the irony in that statement, just get the flow.) Also, my final word, it's complete crap to do a range of movies outside of peoples lifetimes or even more fair, outside their childhood years. Let's face it, movies from the past never seem as good to people of the present, they're spoiled by new cinematography and don't view the old movie as "up to par." Star Wars, THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY, is hands down one of the most absolutely fantastic stories ever told, regardless of how much you want to nitpick and whine about ewoks or whatever other stupid thing you can think of to complain about. It's not fair to have it reevaluated by people today because they're not from the same era, they didn't see Star Wars for what it was when it was first released: one of the first real epics to unfold on the big screen, and include beautiful artwork, animation, and film making that hadn't been done before. (not so much with the golf balls and wood glue models ;P ) So **** your ratings, especially on movies decades passed, because they cannot ever have real justice on the movie's experience. (Reply to this) |
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Zurin writes: on Aug 16 2008 05:21 PM What I don't understand is that I know Lucas has had to have noticed the fans disdain of CGI, and yet... he goes and makes a movie that is entirely CGI. It's mindbogglingly. (Reply to this) |
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SpikesInMySkull writes: on Aug 16 2008 05:34 PM In reply to this comment (#1985937) "What I don't understand is that I know Lucas has had to have noticed the fans disdain of CGI, and yet... he goes and makes a movie that is entirely CGI. It's mindbogglingly." What I think your forgetting is that good ole George is absolutely convinced that the way he's doing things now, with the Prequal Trilogy and Special Editions is the way he should have been doing it from the beginning, and the original trilogy is garbage, and if you actually like the original trilogy in it's original form your an idiot. ...listening to him, honestly I don't even think he likes Star Wars. Which just makes it all the more frustrating that he refuses to allow anyone to take up the mantle because as he says, "It's my thing." (Reply to this) |
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jaysix writes: on Aug 16 2008 08:31 PM In reply to this comment (#1979504) Yes they were drunk...ROTJ behind Revenge of the crappiest dialogue/acting & CGI fest I have ever seen. These fools are out of their minds ! (Reply to this) |
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Virgilhilts writes: on Aug 16 2008 09:00 PM In reply to this comment (#1979442) I am 48 years old and Star Wars was THE date movie in the summer of 1977 when I was 17 years old. I remember taking Sue Warner to that movie like it was yesterday. I can say with certainty that it was titled Episode IV A New Hope when it was first released. I remember discussing that with friends because we did not understand it. What made it a hit was the fact that no one had ever made a movie like that before. It was completely new. The light saber fight, the jump to hyperspace, the droids, blowing up the death star...it was amazing! To me, the scene where Han shows up and says "You're all clear kid, let's blow this thing and go home," will always be my favorite all time movie moment. I always find it interesting when people compare the 6 episodes and talk about how Lucas changed what he was doing and didn't care about what the true fans wanted. Lucas has been consistant from the beginning in telling a story. It is one story, and actually one really long movie with six episodes. The story that Lucas wanted to tell and did tell is what many "fans" don't seem to get. Star Wars is a religious allegory. Anakin Skywalker represents Jesus. But in this story Jesus gives in to the temptation of Satan (the Emperor) rather than resist it as told in Matthew chapter 4. Anakin turns to the dark side and ultimately redeems himself by turning against his master in the final episode. That is the story that Lucas was committed to telling. (Reply to this) |
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deathmetalbrian writes: on Aug 16 2008 10:45 PM a new hope was absolutely always subtitled ep. 4. i was there when it came out. not to mention spaceballs clearly played off of it years ago. mark hammil had a bunch of makeup on in the holiday special (which was aweful) probably because he was in a car wreck and had to have his whole face rebuilt. look it up people, it's not that hard. (Reply to this) |
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darthvaderismydadgod writes: on Aug 17 2008 12:13 AM lucas shud stop raping the sw universe he shud just stop making merchandise and stop making more films for 20 years and by then if he still wants to do sw at least it will be good because he would have a long time to think about it (Reply to this) |
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featherwalrus writes: on Aug 17 2008 01:04 AM That's the best thing I've ever seen. My life is now complete. (Reply to this) |
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optic_85 writes: on Aug 17 2008 09:41 AM You know what, I love ALL the Star Wars flicks. Yeah, even Episode I, you know why?...Cause they are fun, and wildly imaginative. The prequels represent the work of thousands of extremely talented people, and they have my respect. They have to be the most harshly reviewed films of all time. Every fault is pointed out and discussed ENDLESSLY. I'm not saying that they don't have flaws, I just don't see why people can't look past them and enjoy the flicks for what they are.....and that is immersion in to a wonderful(and very cool) universe. I saw a forum topic on this site about Gremlins 2(which, by the way, is an awful movie) on here a while back, and people couldn't stop raving about it, how it was so much fun....That's what I don't understand, how some people can forgive some flawed flicks, and despise others......Whatever. You can spend your time nit-picking, and bitching....I'll be having a great time with Jango Fett, and Gungans.... (Reply to this) |
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Dinosaurprince writes: on Aug 17 2008 09:48 AM In reply to this comment (#1984742) WOW I thought I was one of the few people on the planet that felt this way. What the hell was with this? Jedi are compassonate and Anikans problem has to do with saving the life of his love and child. So to save life, he kills every child he comes across....the same guy who had a hard time killing Duku 30 mins ago in the movie...right....I know he goes nuts, but killing little kids? What the heck were they thinking? There was no forced, or gradual change to the sith as mentioned by the emperor in Return of the Jedi. (Falling to the dark just as I made your father do so, etc.) Wouldn't it have made more sense if he was forced to join forces with the dark side using some other, more immediate danger to his beloved Padme? As well Lia mentions remembering her mother being sad at a young age. Indicating that her mom lived for a short time after the kids were born. Nice re-write George. Really remembered your 20 year old story didn't you? Return of the Jedi is my fav, but I like all three of the first films pretty equal. And Ework Adventure below the holiday special? Yeah that makes me feel about the same as the force exploration in Episode 1. (Reply to this) |
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joeovip writes: on Aug 17 2008 11:46 AM Oh my god! this is absolutly dreadfull! jaja i couldnt stop laughing. jesus! holiday special! thats why you should do drugs!! I wanted to deny it, that star wars, has lost it soul, but for what am im reading here, i must come to realize that you guys are all right. I was very dissapointed about Indiana new movie.. come on aliens???????? today im going to watch the animated clone wars, im going with my head down.. but i still have to see how bad it is... (Reply to this) |
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Diaigma writes: on Aug 17 2008 01:18 PM The day when gratuitous blood enters the franchise is the day I will no longer participate in Star Wars. This has never been about blood a gore. Ep 3 was good and about as gruesome as it should ever get. Two reasons why people didn't like Ep 1-3 -No Harrison Ford -No surprises (Everyone knew who was what and how). (Reply to this) |
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Diaigma writes: on Aug 17 2008 01:19 PM The day when gratuitous blood enters the franchise is the day I will no longer participate in Star Wars. This has never been about blood a gore. Ep 3 was good and about as gruesome as it should ever get. Two reasons why people didn't like Ep 1-3 -No Harrison Ford -No surprises (Everyone knew who was what and how). (Reply to this) |
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Virgilhilts writes: on Aug 18 2008 09:53 AM In reply to this comment (#1986815) Killing the little kids was an example of a "Slaughter of the Innocents." This happens in the Bible both when the Pharaoh tries to kill baby Moses and when Herod tries to kill baby Jesus. It shows the lengths to which the dark side will go to ensure they stay in power. Once Anakin pledges hinself to the Emperor, he commits himself to supporting and maintaining the Emperor's power, so it really makes sense. Turning to the dark side had to be a decision Anakin made of his free will. The whole point is that we make decisions based on either fear or love and sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. This leaves us open to temptation. The Emperor knew this and used it to seduce Anakin (and allay his fears) by convincing him that good would come from turning to the dark side. When Satan tempts Jesus he uses the same tactic, only Jesus resists the temptation, and ultimately acts out of love and not fear. Star Wars is the story of a Christ-figure, Anakin, who allows himself to be tempted by Satan, the Emperor. It is his fear that leads him to the dark side. Yoda makes this point a couple of times, that fear leads to the dark side. (Reply to this) |
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Gimy writes: on Aug 18 2008 10:58 AM oh my god, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Sith is an 80 percent?!?!?! that has to be a joke. i checked this sh3t just to see what the last 3 "movies" were rated and thought 60's for the first two (menace, clones)were hilarious...but 80 for that hunk of sh3t named Sith? are the critics mentally retarded? who in god's name thinks half the "dramatic' scenes in that thing was worth anything other than a negative 10? one scene, ONE and only one deserves mention as anything called ACTING. and its when McGregor b3tches at Anakin for betraying him. thats it. the rest, including Darth Vader's nooooooooo at the end...was absolutely no doubt THE worst piece of cinema to an existing franchise EVER. it makes Battlefield Earth look like Citizen Kane. i've fingered hippie chics that don't shower for weeks at a time...and they didn't stank as bad as some of those scenes in Sith. even further proof...critics are useless... #18 on the all time list...is the worst/most overrated flick of all time. i'd rather live with jar jar for a year and watch Jabba the Hutt do a striptease than watch 2001 again. it moves about as fast as a snail and turtle relay race (Reply to this) |
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highdough writes: on Aug 18 2008 01:18 PM In reply to this comment (#1989203) Knowing why something happens and agreeing with it are two different things. It's way too much of a jump far too quickly. Siding with the Emperor is one thing, but killing all the children is not something I found believable, at least not so quickly. Asking him to kill the children right after he turned to the dark side, I would think, would have made Anakin rethink his path. But since it was necessary for the story, he couldn't turn back. If it unfolded the same way in another movie, I'm sure there would have been more concern with it, but since everyone knew he would end up becoming Darth Vader, I think Lucas felt he had a little leeway. I disagree. (Reply to this) |
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highdough writes: on Aug 18 2008 01:22 PM I felt something similar with Return of the Jedi. I didn't really Luke was at risk of turning to the dark side because his allegiances were so strong. Just killing Darth Vader would not have been enough, in my opinion, to become evil because he never once felt any allegiance to the Emperor. At all. (Reply to this) |
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stevensbiggestfan93 writes: on Aug 18 2008 09:11 PM when i was a toddler i watched my first star wars film at my cousins house and i loved it, i became obsessed, it was the reason i wanted to become a filmmaker, 4 5 and 6 were all unbelievable films and i do agree that six was underrated even though 5 is still my favorite to this day....but thts not the point, when 1 2 and 3 came out i was soo excited, i didn't really care what other people thought it was star wars, and it was back! I was really ignorant with filming industry back then,don't get me wrong, George Lucas will and always will be one of my favorite directors, but as you tend to look at 1 2 and 3, he did start to get lazy. i mean the screenplay in those three films stunk soooo bad it wasn't even funny, i tried to watch episode 3 yesterday and i couldn't help but laugh on how bad the screenplay in that film was, and the acting was horrible as well. CGI was great, just not the screenplay, the film could look all cool but if the screenplay stinks then so will the movie. Now this new film, clone wars, George, COME ON, WHAT WERE U THINKING i feel bad for the guy, but i doubt he cares, he didn't even direct the film, it was some other people he was the producer though, but still. In my opinion and also my cousins and im sure some of you might agree that if George gets his head out of his money, and into filming business, the best way to continue the saga would be to go way back before episode 1 during the time of the game Knights of The Old Republic, i would feel that would be the best decision for George. (Reply to this) |
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pmilleroly27 writes: on Aug 19 2008 01:43 AM agreeded (Reply to this) |
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Desiree writes: on Aug 19 2008 05:57 AM here are the FACTS regarding the Ep. IV subtitle from Ep Despite the deleted scenes conflict, one thing is certain: the %u201CEpisode IV: A New Hope%u201D tag at the head of the opening scroll was not present in the original prints of the film. The tag was seen for the first time by audiences in America during the spring 1981 re-release, the first re-release after the 1980 original release of the follow-up to %u201CStar Wars%u201D: %u201CThe Empire Strikes Back.%u201D In a May 1980 interview with The Seattle Times, George Lucas explained why %u201CStar Wars%u201D was originally released without an episode number or subtitle: %u201CI chickened out at the last minute thinking people aren't going to understand what this is all about, so we dropped %u2018Episode IV: A New Hope.%u2019 Now we're putting it back on. %u2018Empire%u2019 will be called %u2018Episode V.%u2019 %u201D The presence of an episode number and subtitle on the opening scroll of %u201CThe Empire Strikes Back%u201D caused some confusion and received coverage in many film reviews and major news and film industry magazines, including TIME, Newsweek, and American Cinematographer. Why the confusion? Obviously, audiences had not yet seen a %u201CStar Wars%u201D movie begin with an episode number or subtitle! The %u201CEmpire%u201D film review that appeared in The Washington Post clarified the situation: %u201CWhen %u2018Star Wars%u2019 is reissued, probably next summer, the prints will include the subtitle, %u2018Episode IV: A New Hope.%u2019 This adjustment may already be seen in the published screenplay, which came out last winter in an attractive book called %u2018The Art Of Star Wars.%u2019 %u201D from wookipidia When originally released in 1977, the first film was simply titled Star Wars, as Lucas was not certain if he would follow the film with a sequel. Following The Empire Strikes Back, the film was re-released in 1981 with the subtitle 'Episode IV: A New Hope'. The original version, without the subtitle, was not released until the 2006 limited edition DVDs. The opening crawl was re-created to not include the now familiar subtitle specially for the 2006 DVD. in 1977, Star Wars was most definitively NOT called Episode 4. Of this, there can be no argument. You did NOT see the ep. 4 subtitle in 1977 no matter what you think you remember. (Reply to this) |
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TombstoneLawDog writes: on Aug 19 2008 02:08 PM Some really fascinating opinions, here... I agree with a lot of post'rs about the first trilogy- it was simply a trio of very cool movies with ground-breaking, dazzling effects. Even when 'Jedi' started to get a little kiddie-like with the ewoks, it retained its 'Star Wars' 'ness. And you had Harrison Ford being quite possibly the coolest anti-hero of the past quarter century. The new trilogy is just weak. I offer a consideration; by the time Phantom Menace came out, Lucas had, quite literally, the resources of a small, recently-industrialized nation. We're talking virtually limitless resources on every aspect of all three films. And with his awesome power and with his infinite resources, he turned out a piece of absolutely mindless eye-candy. Whatever your background, whatever your station in life, the dialogue of the first three movies was so pathetic as to be an insult to your intelligence. To the extent I cared (these are, after all, popcorn movies), I cringed when any character spoke, both good actors (Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman) and bad (Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen). Lucas spent his ENTIRE time on the new trilogy worrying about how things looked and sounded and virtually NO time on what characters said. Think about how many amazing-looking starships took off. Think about how many creatures Lucas spent hours, finding just the right 'caw' for. Sh#t, if you watch the 'making of' on the DVD's, you can see Lucas PORING over models of what the aliens are supposed to look like. He simply spent NO time, worrying about what they were saying or how they were saying it. In sum: Lucas is a BRILLIANT INNOVATOR AND PRODUCER. Lucas is--has become-- a TERRIBLE, NO-TALENT HACK AS A WRITER/DIRECTOR. I honestly thought Brett Ratner culled more authentic, interesting performances out of his actors on Xmen 3. (Reply to this) |
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darthvaderismydadgod writes: on Aug 21 2008 02:48 AM episode 1 shud have been a chase movie focusing on obi wan and darth maul (Reply to this) |
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