The political correctness is so politically correct and sappy and sucky and conscience-appeasing and politically-pacifying and just generally brain-numbing
Never heard of this guy before but he sounds like an idiot!
Jul 23 - 03:12 PM
Jul 5 - 06:55 PM
What in the blue hell are you talking about "politically correct?" At the time it was made, NOBODY told anything from the side of Native people! NOBODY. The first movie of it's kind, that actually tells a Native story that actually shows things from more of a Native perspective and you rip it for it? That's pathetic Jardine!
Dec 31 - 07:10 AM
In the Competition for Overstated empty rhetoric, our own Critic, Dan Jardine, wins over film maker Kevin Costner and his Scriptwriter, Michael Blake. Look, Dan-or do you prefer I call you Danny? (I don't want to be politically, socially, incorrect); I think your point regarding the film's Idealization of Native American Culture and its juxtaposition /demonizing of Western, Manifest Destiny-Driven Expansionist, is somewhat valid at a general, social level. But I think you have to realize that 1. While this is a movie about societies, cultural clashes, it's also a story about one man's experience in search for solace, enlightenment; and more generally, the communion with nature, respect for simple things. The which, is found by this man out in an isolated, abandoned piece of earth, and through interactions with a Group of Individuals whose culture, language, society, is by most standards, radically different from his own. It's not an attempt to merely laud the Natives or even the old Lakota/Sioux culture. It's about a sort of ascetic enlightenment, finding oneself by giving up oneself.
So don't shorthand the movie by calling it simply a "[politically Correct conscience appeaser]"
2. Several scenes, both the "Stands-With a Fist" Flashback, the cooking scene with Timmons, show Natives acting out violently and without provocation towards Innocent/benign white Westerners. The ambush scene on the River, to rescue Dunbar, i.e., Dances with Wolves, is not, in my opinion, a glorification of the Sioux either. Moreover, in the Full-Length Directors cut, in the evening after the Buffalo Hunt began, it reveals that the Sioux did in fact, catch up with the White Hunters and kill them. While this issue isn't totally resolved in the film, it shows that the old Sioux was not as peace-seeking or benevolent as the ideal Politically Correct Picture painted by Northwestern Society of Today depicts.
So back off. I don%u2019t think the movies targeted to belittle white Westerners, Promote a demeaning Politically Corrected Revisionist History of Western Expansionism, nor to make the Natives, the Sioux or otherwise, out to be the Heroes in all this. It%u2019s a movie about love, self-discovery, and the tragedies and violence brought on by pride and misunderstanding. At least, that%u2019s my take.
Feb 13 - 02:27 AM
Luciano di Lam
David, nothing you wrote weakens Danny's point. You say that the film is about: "self-discovery, and the tragedies and violence brought on by pride and misunderstanding"; That sounds like the very essence Political Correctness. The rest of the story just spices it up. Concerning your Point 2 about the unprovoked attack of the Natives, I would say that the audience was supposed to understand it this way: The Natives had a great deal of painful experience with Whites before, so when they saw more Whites nearby they attacked out of fear that the Whites were going to be violent as they had been before. Thus I would not say that the film suggests that the attack was "unprovoked".
Sep 2 - 12:15 AM
Well, that was not a very good review--and I'm one of those who hated the movie.
May 21 - 11:35 PM
In defense of Dan Jardine, certain statements are being attributed to him here that actually were said by me, Ben Livant. (On the other hand, Jardine posted them on his blog, Cinemania, so you decide.) Not that I retract those previous statements, I do wish to clarify here what I meant by "conscience-appeasing and politically-pacifying."The political correctness I am attacking is not the portrayal of the indigenous people; rather, it is the revisionist portrait of the protagonist as a man of humanist moral fiber with whom the audience is supposed to identify. He's such a nice guy, so by association, we are too. Dances With Wolves does not enter seriously into history to the extent that Costner's character is nothing more than an escape hatch from facing the legacy of that history that confronts us today.Then - Ben
Jan 20 - 11:35 AM
My biggest complaint is that he never once leads one single wolf to the dance floor. What a disappointment !
Mar 30 - 02:06 PM