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Val Mordas
The lone bright spot in Disney's homogenized pooptacular.
Feb 9 - 07:49 AM
Chris Harron
Oh so you've seen it already, for a second there I thought you were just blowing smoke.
Feb 9 - 11:51 AM
Val Mordas
Dude have you actually watched a Disney live action film? Its strong point is that Abrams is directing, so I doubt it can be worse than, say, Attack of the Clones.
Feb 9 - 07:12 PM
Sean Pak
Tron... Honey I Shrunk the Kids... 20000 Leagues Under the Sea... Old Yeller... The Straight Story... Miracle... The Muppets... The Avengers (yes, Disney distributed)... Oh, and Abrams helming Episode 7. No, I'm not that worried.
Feb 10 - 09:59 AM
Val Mordas
For every one you named I can type 100 that sucked (exaggeration), yet there are far more miss than hit. Also I don't care about distribution unless their name is in front of the movie.
Feb 11 - 05:31 AM
Stepping Razor
Sean Pak, look how old most of those are. The Avengers was a weak, forgettable movie, falling into Michael Bay territory at various points. It's fun fan service for 10 year olds, but it doesn't pass under any sort of scrutiny.
Even looking at is strictly as a "fun" movie, it feels more like safe, corporate product, which is what it was constructed to be.
Look at Pixar for a moment. Ever since, Disney bought Pixar, its movies grow weaker and weaker, worse and worse as they become the typical Disney fare. The only thing Pixar about those movies now are the visuals.
J.J. Abrams is a predictably safe choice for Disney. He makes mediocre, passable movies. I also found Star Trek to be a disappointment. It tried to turn the Trek franchise into more of a Star Wars movie and like Avengers, it was forgettable.
I agree with Val Mordas. Disney has far more misses on its belt than hits. And the quality of its movies grow worse as they try to cater to all the major demographics targeted by Hollywood studios.
Feb 11 - 10:20 AM
King Simba
Regarding Pixar....I'd argue they've never been in as much control as they are now. Let's not forget that around the time Disney bought Pixar John Lasseter was promoted to chief creative officer not just for the Pixar films but for all of Disney's animated films, which is why since then Disney has been steadily improving in their animated features.
Going back to Pixar, it was also after Disney bought it did it really start to branch out beyond typical family fare. Their four films from Ratatouile to Toy Story 3 all had very mature or dark elements to their stories and are arguably the best films Pixar has ever produced. Heck, if it wasn't for the way the academy looks down on animated films I'd argue that they all would have been serious contenders for the best pic oscar. As for Cars 2 and Brave, I think it's simply a case of Pixar starting to buckle under far too high expectations. It's sort of like what happened with Disney after their fearsome four or whatever they like to call their four most critically acclaimed films in their second golden age (Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and The Lion King). The Lion King was such a huge critical and commercial hit that it was hard for any animated film to follow in its footsteps and that's just what happened with Pixar after Toy Story 3. I still think Cars 2 and Brave would have been better recieved had they come from any other animation studio.
Feb 11 - 01:59 PM
Dave J
I agree with Val, majority of Disney's live films although good all contain more pretentious simplistic dialogue than thought which is why they do well winning awards in animation than other Oscar categories and can never compete to such films as "The Godfather" or "Casablanca", even "The Social Network"- they only cater to the masses!
Feb 12 - 01:55 PM