Marvel Movie Madness! Part 5: Fantastic Four (2005)

Does this movie trip the Fantastic?

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Part 5: Fantastic Four (2005, 27% @ 202 reviews)
Directed by Tim Story, starring Ioan Gruffudd, Jessica Alba, Michael Chiklis, Chris Evans

Jeff: The 1994 edition of Fantastic Four was reportedly filmed with a $1.5 million budget. The 2005 version cost $100 million to make. Here's how that extra $98.5 million paid off for audiences: Loads of awesome special effects, a couple of solid performances struggling to get out from under a cast loaded with dead weight, and a script that might actually be worse than the original.

It isn't just that FF lurches unsteadily between moments of corny comedy and high drama, or that it plays fast and loose with the comics version of the team's origin -- it's that, aside from a few brief moments of well-staged action, this is one extraordinarily dull film. One of the reason these characters have been Marvel cornerstones for over 40 years is that, in the books, they blend incredible adventures with the kind of petty family squabbling everyone can understand. Here, they're just vanilla archetypes who spend most of the movie either moping around a lab or causing accidental property damage.

Matt: I remember being mostly disappointed with this movie when it came out, but it's not quite as awful as I remembered. That might be because I had just watched the Corman version, and so this seemed a lot easier to watch, or it might be that I watched it with a seven-year-old, and his enjoyment of it colored mine (we both shouted "Wilhelm" simultaneously when we heard one in a fight scene). If you view this as a superhero movie you can watch with the kids, it's not terrible.

The best and worst thing about this movie is the casting. I'll go out on a limb here and say that Chris Evans as the wisecracking, irresponsible Human Torch is the best match of an actor and a comic book hero since Christopher Reeve played Superman (though Ron Perlman as Hellboy is also in the top three). And Michael Chiklis finds the perfect note for the ever-lovin', blue-eyed Thing. But the casting of Mr. Fantastic and the Invisible Girl is disastrous. Ioan Gruffudd comes off like more like a salesman quoting technical specs that he doesn't actually understand, and less like one of the smartest men on the planet. And the less said about Jessica Alba's casting, the better.


Jeff: My experience mirrored yours to an extent, Matt -- although the first time I watched this movie, it was in the theater with a seven-year-old next to me, and his sheer enjoyment did nothing to improve my experience. I braced myself for the worst this time around, and it wasn't as awful as I'd remembered, but Ioan Gruffudd (whose name looks like something you might read on a bottle of moderately expensive Scotch) and Jessica Alba (who makes for the least convincing movie scientist since Christmas Jones) don't do themselves any favors. It's all about Chris Evans -- at times, it's almost like he's acting in a different film.

Alex: Chris Evans carries this. I've only otherwise seen his great brief appearance in Scott Pilgrim, and now I'm really looking forward to see what he does with Captain America. As for the movie overall, I've got no complaints. Like Thor, Fantastic Four has a bit of fun with ridiculous premise though the movie admittedly lacks Thor's walloping action. The fight scenes here feel small and pedestrian, I guess about what you would expect from the guy who made Barbershop.

Say what you will about the casting (no real opinion on Gruffudd or Alba; I liked Chiklis when he was costumed up but otherwise he felt a TV actor gruffing his way through movie land), together this group does the job. The script is nimble when it tires, whipping you through various state of emotions with all the characters - I simultaneously pitied The Thing, love/hated The Human Torch, and resisted the urge to yell for Mr. Fantastic to freaking grow a pair. These are big, weird characters exposed for the first time, and in those moments when the movie is firing on all cylinders it's a little joy to see them bounce off each other. Good ensemble work. Again, about what you would expect from the guy who made Barbershop.

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Comments

THEREWOLF

Markus Arbutina

Best Marvel movie made to date...wait a minute....or is it the complete opposite?

May 18 - 12:02 PM

Josh G.

Josh Goddard

Its True haha (:

May 18 - 12:54 PM

Jeremy C.

Jeremy Crossland

Willie Lumpkin FTW

May 18 - 04:16 PM

THEREWOLF

Markus Arbutina

Chris Evans was a good Torch though.

May 18 - 12:03 PM

Mr. Bo Ziffer

Arthur Grego

Agreed. He was a very under-utilized actor, but he's been busy the past year. Excited for Captain America.

May 18 - 12:21 PM

Babbaloo

Babaloo M

Under-utilized? It's underused. I'm sorry, but I can't stand when people swap out "use" for "utilize" just because it sounds more intelligent. It's not.

The only time you utilize something is if you use something for an unintended purpose; MacGyver utilized things all the time.

You USE a coat hanger to hang your coat.
You UTILIZE a coat hanger to reach keys through the window of a locked car.

May 19 - 09:04 AM

doomzdavo

Doomz Davo

Will you shut the hell up?

May 19 - 11:11 AM

THEREWOLF

Markus Arbutina

Haha Babbaloo, really not the forumn for a grammar lesson.

May 19 - 03:03 PM

dethburger

dethburger hates Flixster

And I can't stand when someone douche bags out on someone elses perceived misuse of a word just so they can puff up there own over-inflated feelings of self worth.

May 19 - 05:51 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

To "use" and to "utilize" is the same exact thing, you fucking baboon.

May 19 - 05:59 PM

Babbaloo

Babaloo M

No, Watcher, it most certainly is not. "Use" has been in the English language much longer than "utilize." "Utilize" was created to describe a situation in which you use something for a purpose that it was not intended for. It wasnâ??t until the last hundred years or so that people began mixing up the two words, usually in an effort to sound smarter, by throwing in the word "utilize" where it doesnâ??t belong. It is now an extremely common faux pas, one I assume based on your comment that you make quite often. As I already explained, though apparently not to your satisfaction, you can use a fork to eat with, or you can use a fork to prop open a window. However, you cannot utilize a fork for eating, while you can utilize a fork to prop open a window.

May 20 - 05:59 AM

Captain Terror

Captain Terror

None of the writers mentioned that Dr Doom was totally botched. Doom should be Marvel's equivalent of Darth Vader, not a frickin' white-collar criminal. That alone kept me from enjoying the film.

May 18 - 12:27 PM

ALgreen99

AL Green

Im still wondering why they picked the Nip Tuck guy for one of the most interesting and intelligent villains of all time.

May 18 - 01:23 PM

Jeremy C.

Jeremy Crossland

He had a good voice for Doom but he was not threatening at all.

May 18 - 04:17 PM

Alan Smithee

Alan Smithee

Quite possibly the worst casting of any of the Marvel Studio movie villains. When you consider Colin Farrell's cringeworthy Bullseye, that's saying a lot.

May 18 - 08:05 PM

ALgreen99

AL Green

I had forgotten about the Bullseye casting. UNGH!

May 18 - 08:56 PM

Strider

Alvin Kimel

I agree. I too was surprised that the reviewers did not mention the terrible casting and presentation of Dr Doom. This is not the Lord of Latveria Fantastic Four readers have come to know, love, and fear. Doom is one of the great comic book villains, but in this movie he borders on the pathetic.

May 19 - 06:57 AM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

FF 2005's Dr. Doom vs. SF: Legend of Chun Li's M. Bison - who wins?

May 19 - 07:19 PM

ALgreen99

AL Green

Bison

May 20 - 12:08 PM

General Wiz

Carlos Flores

This movie is really bad. I just saw the original yesterday and it's bad but it has that fun b-movie feel to it. This one is just bad, aside from some good performances and special effects.

May 18 - 01:13 PM

Alexson Philip

Alexson Philipiah

i watched this when i was like 11, and i thought this was terrible but had decent visuals, VERY CHEESY tho, and the ending felt unsatisfactory.

May 18 - 01:15 PM

deep_toot

Corwin Lameman

total dissapointment. it is true chris evans was the best thing about this movie. it was just made to ride the superhero movie trend train. nothing more.

May 18 - 01:25 PM

Sputnik99

sputnik 99

I don't know. This movie definitely has weaknesses and failures, but I think it's fun enough to watch once or twice, which I have. It's a little too silly for its own good, and they totally botched Dr. Doom, but the chemistry between the actors is very good, and the costumes were good as well. I give it a B-/C+

May 18 - 01:50 PM

Odd E.

Odd Even

Bad movie. 20/100 You know why it's bad so there's no point in stating it.

May 18 - 02:30 PM

The Reaper

Iron Will

Dull and lame. Next please!

May 18 - 03:15 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Chris Evans was a good Human Torch, but the movie was crap. Jessica Alba made it even worse.

May 18 - 03:28 PM

manwithoutfear19

Daniel Raimondi

this was pretty bad

May 18 - 03:42 PM

Matt Alex S.

Matias Sabaj

Torch and Thing FTW in this movie :)
"resisted the urge to yell for Mr. Fantastic to freaking grow a pair" LOL xD

May 18 - 03:45 PM

Jeremy C.

Jeremy Crossland

Aside from the silliness and lack of action, I did enjoy this movie, although rise of the silver surfer is much better.

May 18 - 04:14 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

The only thing that saves this movie from being a complete, unwatchable fucking mess is the fact that the sequel is SO MUCH WORSE.

May 18 - 04:34 PM

doomzdavo

Doomz Davo

Lets take it one movie at a time Watcher.

May 18 - 04:50 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

But...but...why? :(

May 18 - 05:28 PM

doomzdavo

Doomz Davo

Your right though. Part 2 was terrible.

May 18 - 06:36 PM

Andrew M.

Andrew McGregor

IK thought the sequel us much better, probably because I'm a sucker for Silver Surfer. But yeah this one was one long origin story and I hated it!

May 18 - 06:38 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

I agree, Silver Surfer is a great character, but I think you'll agree that, apart from the T2 liquid-metal effect - he really wasn't given much to do in the sequel.

May 18 - 10:28 PM

Daniel M.

daniel mueller

Well said sir.

May 19 - 12:08 AM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

Thank you kindly, sir.

May 19 - 12:28 AM

Zissou

Hola Amigo

One thing I did appreciate was that they didn't make Thing a CG superhero. IMO superhero movies with CG heroes just date themselves immediately, for example the Spiderman movies. Tobey Maguire was a great Peter Parker, but he really wasn't Spiderman. The graphics in that movie are already laughable, why do people still think its okay to rely that much on CG? That's why when Spidey fans are all pissed about them rebooting, I'm rejoicing that its going to be Peter Parker in a suit, which is who Spiderman is... durrrh

May 18 - 04:37 PM

The NewHampshire Database

Kirk McCarty

Wait...so you think they're actually gonna have someone physically slinging webs from skyscraper to skyscraper hundreds of feet in the air? Yeah, that sounds plausible.

May 18 - 08:15 PM

ALgreen99

AL Green

Zissou is right!!!!! They should have any man or woman who plays a super hero or villain do things that are humanly impossible even with wires.

May 19 - 01:03 AM

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doomzdavo

Doomz Davo

What are writing a book or something or something ART? Leave us some room to comment before you get comment smacked in the face.

May 18 - 04:59 PM

Wisenheimer

Joshua Dinsmore

I liked this movie. I won't be seeing it again, but I liked it.

May 18 - 04:59 PM

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