Weekly Ketchup: Fruitvale Station Director and Star Sought for Rocky Spinoff Creed

Plus, new roles for Gwyneth Paltrow, Melissa McCarthy, James McAvoy, and two remakes of JCVD movies.

This week coming off the end of San Diego Comic-Con lacked some of the big names seen in a typical week. But, hey, that just left room for two different remakes of Jean-Claude Van Damme movies, as well as remakes of The Butterfly Effect, and a Rocky spinoff focusing on Apollo Creed's grandson. Every thing old is new again.


This Week's Top Story

FROM FRUITVALE STATION TO GETTING THE EYE OF THE TIGER BACK: THE ROCKY SPINOFF CREED

For several years now, MGM has been the studio most regarded as something of a remake factory. MGM has the rights to many classic films, and rather than sequelizing them (which wouldn't be lauded much either), MGM does lots and lots of remakes. Fame, The Taking of Pelham 123, and the upcoming Carrie, RoboCop and Poltergeist remakes... That's all MGM. This story, however, sees the studio reviving one of their biggest franchises (possibly second only to their continuing James Bond franchise), but not as a remake or a true sequel. The Rocky franchise is getting a spinoff movie called Creed, about the boxing career of the grandson of Rocky and Rocky II opponent Apollo Creed. MGM is in early talks with both director Ryan Coogler -- currently in theaters with his debut film, the true story of Fruitvale Station -- and, for the title character, with that film's star, Michael B. Jordan, who appeared last year in Chronicle, and is rumored to be in talks to play the new Johnny Storm in the 2015 reboot of The Fantastic Four. Sylvester Stallone is also expected to reprise his role as Rocky Balboa as the new Creed's trainer. For reasons obvious to anyone who ever saw Rocky IV, Carl Weathers is probably less likely to appear in the new Creed. Ryan Coogler will cowrite Creed with Aaron Covington, but which Aaron Covington it will be is anyone's guess (who knew there were so many in Hollywood?).

Fresh Developments This Week

#1 ROSAMUND PIKE LANDS TITLE ROLE IN DAVID FINCHER'S GONE GIRL

After Ben Affleck was cast as the male lead in director David Fincher's next film, the Gillian Flynn novel adaptation Gone Girl, the next obvious step was casting the title character. That process reportedly included consideration of Charlize Theron, Natalie Portman, Emily Blunt, Abbie Cornish, and Olivia Wilde. This week, we learned that the actress to actually land the role was Rosamund Pike, who isn't a household name yet in the USA, but has been seen in a variety of films, including Die Another Day, Wrath of the Titans, and last year's Jack Reacher. Rosamund Pike will play a woman who disappears on her fifth wedding anniversary, leading to suspicion of her husband (Ben Affleck). Neil Patrick Harris and Tyler Perry are also being considered for other roles. Filming starts in September. Director David Fincher (Fight Club, Zodiac) chose Gone Girl as his next film after deals fell apart on some of his other projects, including the Disney action remake 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and the sequel The Girl Who Played with Fire.


#2 BEN FOSTER TO CYCLE INTO THEATERS AS LANCE ARMSTRONG

It's fairly typical for a hot button subject to inspire various projects from competing studios and producers, and in most cases, whichever one actually starts filming first "wins" the race, such as it were. (It's less common that one of the projects keeps going regardless, but that obviously also happens, as Olympus Has Fallen and White House Down most recently demonstrated). In the months after the revelations of Lance Armstrong's doping came out, his story quickly became one such hot project. Previously, most of the news has gone to projects from J.J. Abrams' Bad Robot and Paramount (which Bradley Cooper may have been in talks for), and another from Recount and Game Change director Jay Roach. Today, we learned that the dark horse contender that may actually "win the race" is one from British production company Working Title. Stephen Frears (The Queen, High Fidelity) is attached to direct, with American actor Ben Foster in final talks to play Lance Armstrong. Ben Foster has built up a strong list of supporting roles, including playing a baddie in the remake of 3:10 to Yuma, and roles in the Marvel movies X-Men: The Last Stand (as Angel) and The Punisher (as Spacker Dave). Presumably, Ben Foster also knows how to ride a bike. Working Title expects to start filming their untitled Lance Armstrong movie this fall.


#3 MELISSA MCCARTHY TO REUNITE WITH BRIDESMAIDS/THE HEAT DIRECTOR FOR SPY COMEDY SUSAN COOPER

Melissa McCarthy is in talks to make a third movie with director Paul Feig after their first two movies together (Bridesmaids and The Heat) were both critical and box office hits (the first more than the second, but still). Their third movie together will be a spy comedy called Susan Cooper, which is being compared to the 2006 James Bond reboot Casino Royale. One has to presume they mean if there was already a successful movie franchise about a heavy set female spy (or maybe that they're pretending that there is, and that's half of the joke).




#4 GWYNETH PALTROW AND EWAN MCGREGOR MAY JOIN JOHNNY DEPP IN MORTDECAI

After contract disputes caused the Whitey Bulger biopic Black Mass to stall, Johnny Depp recently moved on to star in the novel adaptation Mortdecai instead, which will be directed by David Koepp (Secret Window, Premium Rush). This week, we learned that Gwyneth Paltrow and Ewan McGregor are also now in talks to join Johnny Depp in the film. The story of Mortdecai will depict "an antihero art dealer and rogue who is in a race to recover a stolen painting rumored to contain the code to a lost bank account filled with Nazi gold."



Rotten Ideas of the Week

#5 JAMES MCAVOY TO PLAY FRANKENSTEIN TO DANIEL RADCLIFFE'S IGOR

One has to wonder if James McAvoy knows what he just got himself into, now having to spend years of his life explaining for the umpteenth time the difference between Frankenstein and Frankenstein's Monster. He'll just have to console himself with the swimming pool he can probably afford to fill with cash from paychecks for movies like this week's news and X-Men: First Class. Anyway, yes, James McAvoy is in talks with 20th Century Fox to play the title character, Dr. Victor Von Frankenstein, in their modern reboot of Frankenstein. Daniel Radcliffe has already been attached for a few months to costar as the scientist's assistant Igor. Frankenstein will be directed by Paul McGuigan (Push, Wicker Park, Lucky Number Slevin), whose mostly "Rotten" RT Tomatometer page is really the reason this movie remains a "Rotten Idea" whenever new stories break.


#4 THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT REMAKE TO PROBABLY CHANGE MORE THAN JUST ONE LITTLE THING

Like basically any year (ever), there will be many anniversaries "celebrated" in 2014. One that most people probably wouldn't think of is the tenth anniversary of the release of The Butterfly Effect. Then again, most people aren't the producers of The Butterfly Effect, like the Benderspink production company do. So, Benderspink has announced plans to reunite with writer-director Eric Bress on a "reboot" of The Butterfly Effect, once again telling the story of a young man who is able to travel back in time within his own past, and make changes that have unexpected impacts on his present. Yes, that's right, just like Alanis Morrissette's "Ironic", The Butterfly Effect wasn't really about "The Butterfly Effect" at all. Although Eric Bress is on board the project, he won't himself be directing the reboot, but we don't yet know exactly will get to relive his experience.


#3 SONY DEVELOPS GRAN TURISMO VIDEOGAME ADAPTATION MOVIE

As the Fast and the Furious franchise continues to bring in huge box office numbers with each new release, the other studios that are not Universal Pictures are developing their own fast cars properties. This week, apparently, someone at Sony Pictures realized that SOE owns the rights to the Gran Turismo videogame franchise. In the games, which have pretty much no narrative structure at all, players pick real life cars and then drive them around realistic looking race tracks and other racing settings. A true adaptation of Gran Turismo would probably be a ninety minute IMAX documentary of a faceless driver taking a series of cars through scenic races. Instead, Sony has set the producers of the upcoming mommie-soft-porn adaptation Fifty Shades of Grey to see about getting Gran Turismo going as an actual movie, with a script and actors and everything. Disney's Touchstone Pictures will be release their own racing videogame adaptation Need for Speed on March 14, 2014.


#2 THIS WEEK IN JEAN-CLAUDE VAN DAMME REMAKES: BLOODSPORT AND KICKBOXER

I'm clearly not a Hollywood producer. I would never get up in the morning, and say, "Hey, you know what the world needs? Another Kickboxer." And this is why I don't have a job at Radar Pictures, the company behind movies like The Last Samurai and Riddick, which is now developing a new version of that one movie with Jean-Claude Van Damme where he provides the future inspiration for a running joke on Community. The Kickboxer remake project will be directed by Stephen Fung, whose Tai Chi Zero was a recent Chinese box office hit. Most weeks, one Jean-Claude Van Damme remake would be enough (actually, more than enough), but no, the week of July 22-July 26, 2013 just had to take it to that extra special extreme. And so, this was the week that we learned that the (previously announced) reboot of Bloodsport is also moving ahead, with director James McTeigue (V for Vendetta, Ninja Assassin) now attached to the project.


#1 R.I.P. DENNIS FARINA (1944-2013)

If there was ever someone who proved F. Scott Fitzgerald wrong about second acts in American lives, it was Dennis Farina. Dennis Farina had a long, twenty year career as a Chicago cop before ever getting into show business, starting with a small role in the 1981 Michael Mann movie Thief. This led to a supporting role on Miami Vice, and two seasons as one of the leads in the innovative 1986-1988 TV series Crime Story (serialized storytelling spanning entire seasons? crazy talk!). Dennis Farina also went on, later in his career, to basically play Lennie Briscoe's replacement for two seasons on Law & Order after the 2004 death of Jerry Orbach. For the purpose of this column and site, however, we should specifically remember Dennis Farina's film career. Although his TV career was bookmarked by two lead roles, in movies, Dennis Farina was more of the colorfully rough supporting character type. From a classic phone conversation in Midnight Run to the awesome closing line of Guy Ritchie's Snatch, Dennis Farina was frequently quotable. Farina's other memorable roles included movies like Out of Sight, Get Shorty, and Manhunter. Our movie journey with Dennis Farina came to an end this week with his death in Scottsdale, Arizona of a blood clot on the lung. Dennis Farina was 69.

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Comments

Typhon

Typhon Q

Gran Turismo is gonna suck.

Jul 26 - 04:58 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

Yeah, most likely.

Jul 26 - 06:08 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

EAT SHIT! Oh wait I thought you said Grand Torino, sorry.

Jul 29 - 05:22 PM

Celena L.

Celena Lels

I work at Home with Google. It's by-far the nicest job I have had. I've made $64,000 so far this year working online and I'm a full time student. I've made such great money. It's really user friendly and I'm just so happy that I found out about it. Here is what I do, Bling6.com

Aug 5 - 02:47 PM

Big Daddy101

Do you think this is a motherfucking game?

Nah, critics will eat it up just like that shitty film Fast and Furious 6.

Jul 27 - 04:50 PM

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

What critics loved a character-driven movie with fantastic action set pieces? Will Gran Turismo have that too? Maybe if they just cast every single Fast & Furious actor.

Jul 28 - 04:20 PM

Big Daddy101

Do you think this is a motherfucking game?

Character driven? I'm sorry. I didn't know a bunch of cliched ass characters who have actors that can't act for shit can be passed of as lovable character. Get better taste.

Jul 28 - 07:08 PM

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

I doubt that F&F6 would have been rated as highly if it weren't for its characters and the chemistry between actors. That's half the appeal of the movie, especially one where the central theme is 'family'. By now, we feel like we know these guys. Not just Dom and Brian and Mia, but also Han who is ever so chill in face of everything being crazy, or Roman who sometimes act like he is perfectly aware he's a character in a narrative. When they take out a tank or a plane, we care not just because these are superheroes wielding cars but also because they are a family fighting to keep themselves united.

Jul 28 - 08:10 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

How is a 'Creed' movie any better than Mcavoy playing Frankenstein. Not that I any particular keen interest in either, yet I fail to see how one is fresh and the other rotten.

Jul 26 - 05:04 PM

Greg Dean Schmitz

Greg Dean Schmitz

The top story is not necessarily "fresh." Just the biggest story... in a really, really slow news week. Having said that, "Fruitvale Station" is currently 93% Fresh, and the first three "Rocky" movies were all Fresh (92%, 71%, and 60% respectively).

Jul 26 - 05:21 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

The last Rocky movie was also fresh.

Jul 26 - 09:20 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I guess the talent behind Creed instills more faith in the RT staff.

Jul 26 - 06:10 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Given the acclaim "Fruitvale" is receiving, any announced projects by Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan should be fresh. Or haven't you been paying attention to the acclaim - At Sundance, both Grand Jury and Audience Awards; Best First Film at Cannes; opening weekend run with 53K per-screen average. Things like these are what instill faith.

Jul 26 - 07:03 PM

Big Daddy101

Do you think this is a motherfucking game?

Who would still watch a movie about a guy that died like 9 movies ago? It is definately shitty news.

Jul 28 - 07:09 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Baby, you got some stupid going.

Jul 29 - 07:46 AM

Jacob Mckee

Jacob Mckee

It's rotten cause of the director. He basically says that any news regarding Paul McGuigan's take on Frakenstein will be rotten due his rotten tomato meter scores. Not a reason in my book to make it a rotten ideas of the week. I think the cast is pitch-perfect, Ratcliffe as Igor and James McAvoy as the Doctor......so far, so good. Push, Lucky Number Slevin, as well as Wicker Park were not bad movies, just all really average which means at least the director is competent in movie making 101.

Jul 27 - 04:40 PM

Andrew Targaryen

Andrew Targaryen

Nothing about Radcliffe screams "Igor." He's a great Harry Potter, and a great actor all around, but Igor just doesn't seem to suit him.

Jul 27 - 05:14 PM

Andrew Targaryen

Andrew Targaryen

That's true, but I really don't know if he can do the nasty, hunchback role. I'm sure he has versatility, so we'll just have to wait and see.

Jul 27 - 06:37 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

If anyone wants more promising news, the Frankenstein project is being scripted by Max Landis (Chronicle).

Jul 27 - 06:47 PM

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Actors has this way acting and looking differently in movies from the way they really are. Remember when Charlize Theron got an Oscar for Monster? Or almost nothing James Franco have been in even suggest that he's a quiet bookworm?

Jul 28 - 04:25 PM

Greg Dean Schmitz

Greg Dean Schmitz

The top story is not necessarily "fresh." Just the biggest story... in a really, really slow news week. Having said that, "Fruitvale Station" is currently 93% Fresh, and the first three "Rocky" movies were all Fresh (92%, 71%, and 60% respectively).

Jul 26 - 05:21 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

The last Rocky movie was also fresh.

Jul 26 - 09:20 PM

King of the Snoots

Ryan Brown

I know that I'll be in the minority on this one, but as both a lover of "Lucky # Slevin" and Mary Shelley's seminal "Frankenstein," I consider that news story to be the one I'm looking forward to the most.

Jul 26 - 05:39 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

Hmm, alright week.

Top Story: I kinda love this idea. I've only ever seen the first Rock (Yeah, yeah), but I know most of the story from Pop-Culture, etc. and this story sounds pretty good. Considering the buzz around Fruitvale Station, I'm sure Ryan Coogler can tell a great new story, considering he'll probably be working with Jordan, Also, I'll probably have people calling me out on this, but don't you think changing a character's race is a little extreme? I totally get it for supporting characters (I loved Heimdall in Thor), but changing the ethnicity of a main character is something that people seem to think is perfectly all right with comic book movies, but nothing else?

Fresh
No. 1: Well, anything involving Fincher is bound to be promising, and this sounds like another intoxicating film, right away. I'm sad that he may not be directing a sequel to The Girl series, as I adore the books.

No. 2: I remember hating Angel when I saw X-Men 3, but I'm pretty sure it was the material, not the actor, so hopefully this guy can pull off Armstrong right, or something.

No. 3: Mr. Poole seems to be on a roll with comedies starring Melissa McCarthy, so the best of luck to the pair.

No. 4: Um, this sounds like some escapist fun, but I would hardly imagine it getting a fresh rating when it comes out.

Rotten
No. 5: The actors sound great, but I wouldn't put any movie in the hands of McGuigan. Despite this, I think MacAvoy and Radcliffe are fine actors, and hopefully they elevate the material.

No. 4: F**k that.

No. 3: Well, I wouldn't have high hopes for any video-game adaptation (Except, perhaps, the upcoming Assassin's Creed adaptation, and that's only for Fassbender), and I hate racing games, so it makes sense for me to not give a s**t about this one.

No. 2: Remake stories are starting to really bore me.

No. 1: Aw, poor guy. I didn't really know of hi,, but R.I.P.(D.?), I guess.

Jul 26 - 05:47 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Apollo Creed has always been....ah, nevermind, you'll figure it out.

Jul 26 - 07:07 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

He's talking about Jordan for Human Torch in fantastic four which I gor one thnk shouldn't happen. I would rather he play Luke Cage or Black Panther.

Jul 26 - 09:24 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

He's talking about Jordan for Human Torch in fantastic four which I gor one thnk shouldn't happen. I would rather he play Luke Cage or Black Panther.

Jul 26 - 09:24 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

No need to be snarky, especially considering a rather well-known Super-Hero was mentioned in the same post.

Jul 27 - 10:22 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I think Michael B Jordan as grandson of Creed AND as Johnny Storm is a fantastic idea. How is it people are fine with Jessica Alba ANY role in ANY movie but Michael B Jordan who is a fantastic actor can't play a super hero? What is with all the weird I'm not racist but characters should only be changed into WHite people if they are changed at all attitudes.

Jul 27 - 11:46 AM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I think you misunderstand me. I have no problem with a minor character having a change to ethnicity/race, but I don't see why it should be done for a main character. There would've been riots had Jay Gatsby been black in The Great Gatsby, or some such, but everybody seems to want to change the ethnicity of Comic Book characters. And I certainly don't endorse Jessica Alba in Fantastic Four (Even if I did like Ioan Gruffud). Why can't Michael B. Jordan play a black character, like Black Panther or Blade. Thinking about it, people would be up in arms if they were changed to white characters. And I know the evidence may seem pretty damning, but I'm not a racist, or an apologist, I just don't see why major characters need race changes.

Jul 27 - 11:54 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Riots from a change by director Baz Lerman? Are you serious!? Were there Riots when the latest interpretation of "Wuthering Heights" had Heathcliff played by a Black Man? Were these riots just not covered?

Michael B Jordan can't play a black character because those black characters were Racist ignorant stereotypes. Luke Cage couldn't have been any more of an homage to BLACKSPOILTATION FILMS. Black Panter is even worse and even more ignorant. What any Black Guy can play a Black guy as long as he's black? Southern African playing a Southern African character to much of a risk better just get a popular Black Character?

That last bit is suppose to sound silly, just as silly as saying "We must sacrifice actual talent and emotion if it means a characters color must change..SURELY everyone undrestands that generic white is better than Talented Minority!"

It's absurd BS.

Now before I come across to much as an abrassive jerk trying to force his views as correct..I agree with you 100% on Ioan Gruffud as Richards and I thought Dicaprio was an outstanding Gatsby.

Jul 27 - 04:04 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I guess I may sound a tad...stupid, but...yeah, I don't even know how to defend my opinions. I just dislike the idea of having to change a character's ethnicity, just because. I feel like there's no rhyme nor reason in doing so, kinda like how Andrew Garfield recently suggested turning Mary Jane into a guy. I just think of it as changing a character for no reason. Also, I don't see how you come to the conclusion that Black Panther isracist. I can see Luke Cage, but times have changed, and these characters have outgrown their origins, so why can't we cast a great black actor in their shoes?

Jul 27 - 05:00 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I agree with Lance. I guess my problem is I perceive most changes to race as being for the stunt of it (As I get the feeling that FF may be), but if done right (Such as with a number of supporting characters), and well-acted, it can be fine.

Jul 27 - 06:22 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I do like The Black Panther a lot, but his creation is what your afraid of with the Stunt casting. Oh great, everyone has noticed that 95% of the Marvel roster is White and the 5% is rarely even touched on in comics and Mark Millar just killed off one of the Black Characters in Marvel Civil War....we gotta do something..HEY I KNOW, AN AFRICAN KING! DOESN"T GET MUCH MORE BLACK IN THAT! That's what I meant by bread from racisim however I agree with you both that these characters (especially the black panther) have out grown there origins big time.

It's called for because the age appropriate white male actor is Awful these days. Why do we have to pull from a pool of shit because everyone is so afraid of a little diversity. Sue Storm has to be black too? Good! You want another model who doens't know how to act to ruin another female super hero?

Andrew Garfield for example is a thespian. The Kid is new in America but he has a ton of films under his belt in his home country. The Red Riding trilogy for example has him on par with some of the greatest actors in Europe. He Loves spiderman and its sad because he obviously feels like anybody could play the Peter Parker written out in the pathetic typical and cliche ridden script. He really seems desperate for some kind of element to the Parker character that would require Real Acting.

Jul 27 - 08:55 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I can see where you're coming from, but I don't see Black Panther as being a stunt cast, considering he has such close ties with the Avengers, and obviously, they won't cast a white actor to play him, so why not Michael B. Jordan? I understand that Andrew Garfield is a great actor, and maybe it's because he has appeared in a lesser adaptation of Spider-Man, but I don't agree with making Spider-Man gay, for the sake of it, which is essentially what Garfield proposed.

Jul 28 - 01:28 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

But his chemestry with Gwen Stacey in Amazing spiderman is so hallow and painful! What guy would break a promise to a dying cop!? A Douchebag..or..A guy that wants to make sure his biggest secret doesn't get out. NOT the super hero one.

Come on, Try to watch Amazing Spiderman again and you convince me he had more chemistry with Gwen Stacey then in that scene with Flash Thompson when he opens his heart to Peter over his dead uncle. What I'm saying is I hardly think it would be a stunt on how Parker has been played.

Anyways a big part of this may be because I also likes to keep these discussions going but I think your points are fantastic. Sharlto Copley is South African, I bet they give the role to him just to keep everything white washed. HA Ha ha..just kidding....maybe.

Jul 28 - 03:09 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

Eh, I guess it would be okay if they didn't make a mess of it, cut considering how the series has gone so far (One movie!), I wouldn't have high expectations, at all. Casting Sharlto Copley would kill the MCU dead, right there, regardless of how good a film they make. It's not like they would dare change the race of a black person, so why do for a white person, especially if it's solely for coverage?

Jul 28 - 03:34 PM

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Johnny Storm's race does not matter at all, unlike the race of an actor playing Black Panther or Warpath or Batman or The Flash. Besides, Jessica Alba was already Hispanic-French-Canadian in the previous version of FF.

The Amazing Spider-Man has great chemistry between Peter and Gwen. It's what almost every positive review says. The actors are actually dating in real-life, so that helps. Practically everything Spider-Man does in those movies make sense in context of the character. He broke his promise to Gwen's father because he's following his aunt's advice, and because he doesn't want to be a jerk to Gwen (and because the movie doesn't want to copy the ending of Raimi's first movie).

Jul 28 - 04:36 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

Yeah, most likely.

Jul 26 - 06:08 PM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

EAT SHIT! Oh wait I thought you said Grand Torino, sorry.

Jul 29 - 05:22 PM

Celena L.

Celena Lels

I work at Home with Google. It's by-far the nicest job I have had. I've made $64,000 so far this year working online and I'm a full time student. I've made such great money. It's really user friendly and I'm just so happy that I found out about it. Here is what I do, Bling6.com

Aug 5 - 02:47 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I guess the talent behind Creed instills more faith in the RT staff.

Jul 26 - 06:10 PM

Peter Bobbs

Peter Bobbs

I actually like the first "butterfly effect" movie, but rebooting it (especially only after 10 years) is just plain stupid. The first one wasn't even a financial hit, and was only good because of the great scenes with the child actors and the wierdly intense style of mixing a romance, sci-fi, and horror. The idea itself was not original or great. What they would do in a reboot bewilders me.

Jul 26 - 06:15 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Given the acclaim "Fruitvale" is receiving, any announced projects by Ryan Coogler and Michael B. Jordan should be fresh. Or haven't you been paying attention to the acclaim - At Sundance, both Grand Jury and Audience Awards; Best First Film at Cannes; opening weekend run with 53K per-screen average. Things like these are what instill faith.

Jul 26 - 07:03 PM

Big Daddy101

Do you think this is a motherfucking game?

Who would still watch a movie about a guy that died like 9 movies ago? It is definately shitty news.

Jul 28 - 07:09 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Baby, you got some stupid going.

Jul 29 - 07:46 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Apollo Creed has always been....ah, nevermind, you'll figure it out.

Jul 26 - 07:07 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

He's talking about Jordan for Human Torch in fantastic four which I gor one thnk shouldn't happen. I would rather he play Luke Cage or Black Panther.

Jul 26 - 09:24 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

He's talking about Jordan for Human Torch in fantastic four which I gor one thnk shouldn't happen. I would rather he play Luke Cage or Black Panther.

Jul 26 - 09:24 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

No need to be snarky, especially considering a rather well-known Super-Hero was mentioned in the same post.

Jul 27 - 10:22 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I think Michael B Jordan as grandson of Creed AND as Johnny Storm is a fantastic idea. How is it people are fine with Jessica Alba ANY role in ANY movie but Michael B Jordan who is a fantastic actor can't play a super hero? What is with all the weird I'm not racist but characters should only be changed into WHite people if they are changed at all attitudes.

Jul 27 - 11:46 AM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I think you misunderstand me. I have no problem with a minor character having a change to ethnicity/race, but I don't see why it should be done for a main character. There would've been riots had Jay Gatsby been black in The Great Gatsby, or some such, but everybody seems to want to change the ethnicity of Comic Book characters. And I certainly don't endorse Jessica Alba in Fantastic Four (Even if I did like Ioan Gruffud). Why can't Michael B. Jordan play a black character, like Black Panther or Blade. Thinking about it, people would be up in arms if they were changed to white characters. And I know the evidence may seem pretty damning, but I'm not a racist, or an apologist, I just don't see why major characters need race changes.

Jul 27 - 11:54 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

Riots from a change by director Baz Lerman? Are you serious!? Were there Riots when the latest interpretation of "Wuthering Heights" had Heathcliff played by a Black Man? Were these riots just not covered?

Michael B Jordan can't play a black character because those black characters were Racist ignorant stereotypes. Luke Cage couldn't have been any more of an homage to BLACKSPOILTATION FILMS. Black Panter is even worse and even more ignorant. What any Black Guy can play a Black guy as long as he's black? Southern African playing a Southern African character to much of a risk better just get a popular Black Character?

That last bit is suppose to sound silly, just as silly as saying "We must sacrifice actual talent and emotion if it means a characters color must change..SURELY everyone undrestands that generic white is better than Talented Minority!"

It's absurd BS.

Now before I come across to much as an abrassive jerk trying to force his views as correct..I agree with you 100% on Ioan Gruffud as Richards and I thought Dicaprio was an outstanding Gatsby.

Jul 27 - 04:04 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I guess I may sound a tad...stupid, but...yeah, I don't even know how to defend my opinions. I just dislike the idea of having to change a character's ethnicity, just because. I feel like there's no rhyme nor reason in doing so, kinda like how Andrew Garfield recently suggested turning Mary Jane into a guy. I just think of it as changing a character for no reason. Also, I don't see how you come to the conclusion that Black Panther isracist. I can see Luke Cage, but times have changed, and these characters have outgrown their origins, so why can't we cast a great black actor in their shoes?

Jul 27 - 05:00 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I agree with Lance. I guess my problem is I perceive most changes to race as being for the stunt of it (As I get the feeling that FF may be), but if done right (Such as with a number of supporting characters), and well-acted, it can be fine.

Jul 27 - 06:22 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I do like The Black Panther a lot, but his creation is what your afraid of with the Stunt casting. Oh great, everyone has noticed that 95% of the Marvel roster is White and the 5% is rarely even touched on in comics and Mark Millar just killed off one of the Black Characters in Marvel Civil War....we gotta do something..HEY I KNOW, AN AFRICAN KING! DOESN"T GET MUCH MORE BLACK IN THAT! That's what I meant by bread from racisim however I agree with you both that these characters (especially the black panther) have out grown there origins big time.

It's called for because the age appropriate white male actor is Awful these days. Why do we have to pull from a pool of shit because everyone is so afraid of a little diversity. Sue Storm has to be black too? Good! You want another model who doens't know how to act to ruin another female super hero?

Andrew Garfield for example is a thespian. The Kid is new in America but he has a ton of films under his belt in his home country. The Red Riding trilogy for example has him on par with some of the greatest actors in Europe. He Loves spiderman and its sad because he obviously feels like anybody could play the Peter Parker written out in the pathetic typical and cliche ridden script. He really seems desperate for some kind of element to the Parker character that would require Real Acting.

Jul 27 - 08:55 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

I can see where you're coming from, but I don't see Black Panther as being a stunt cast, considering he has such close ties with the Avengers, and obviously, they won't cast a white actor to play him, so why not Michael B. Jordan? I understand that Andrew Garfield is a great actor, and maybe it's because he has appeared in a lesser adaptation of Spider-Man, but I don't agree with making Spider-Man gay, for the sake of it, which is essentially what Garfield proposed.

Jul 28 - 01:28 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

But his chemestry with Gwen Stacey in Amazing spiderman is so hallow and painful! What guy would break a promise to a dying cop!? A Douchebag..or..A guy that wants to make sure his biggest secret doesn't get out. NOT the super hero one.

Come on, Try to watch Amazing Spiderman again and you convince me he had more chemistry with Gwen Stacey then in that scene with Flash Thompson when he opens his heart to Peter over his dead uncle. What I'm saying is I hardly think it would be a stunt on how Parker has been played.

Anyways a big part of this may be because I also likes to keep these discussions going but I think your points are fantastic. Sharlto Copley is South African, I bet they give the role to him just to keep everything white washed. HA Ha ha..just kidding....maybe.

Jul 28 - 03:09 PM

Willem DaPerson

Willem DaPerson

Eh, I guess it would be okay if they didn't make a mess of it, cut considering how the series has gone so far (One movie!), I wouldn't have high expectations, at all. Casting Sharlto Copley would kill the MCU dead, right there, regardless of how good a film they make. It's not like they would dare change the race of a black person, so why do for a white person, especially if it's solely for coverage?

Jul 28 - 03:34 PM

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Mohd Syafiq Bin Jabaruddin

Johnny Storm's race does not matter at all, unlike the race of an actor playing Black Panther or Warpath or Batman or The Flash. Besides, Jessica Alba was already Hispanic-French-Canadian in the previous version of FF.

The Amazing Spider-Man has great chemistry between Peter and Gwen. It's what almost every positive review says. The actors are actually dating in real-life, so that helps. Practically everything Spider-Man does in those movies make sense in context of the character. He broke his promise to Gwen's father because he's following his aunt's advice, and because he doesn't want to be a jerk to Gwen (and because the movie doesn't want to copy the ending of Raimi's first movie).

Jul 28 - 04:36 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I think "Creed" is a potentially great idea, and very smart for "Stallone to take his character in a new, logical direction.

I don't have any interest in much else. Mildly intrigued at any upcoming porn named "Benderspink Effect", but other than that.

Jul 26 - 07:11 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

The last Rocky movie was also fresh.

Jul 26 - 09:20 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

He's talking about Jordan for Human Torch in fantastic four which I gor one thnk shouldn't happen. I would rather he play Luke Cage or Black Panther.

Jul 26 - 09:24 PM

Branden M.

Branden Mata

He's talking about Jordan for Human Torch in fantastic four which I gor one thnk shouldn't happen. I would rather he play Luke Cage or Black Panther.

Jul 26 - 09:24 PM

infernaldude

Infernal Dude

If they do 'Creed', they have to have a scene where Rocky is about to throw away some chicken bones and Creed tells him to stop, take it home, throw in a potatoe and some broth. ''Thats a stew goin' Rocky!'' End scene.

Jul 26 - 10:11 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

The Melissa McCarthy news is the only interesting news on here. I find McCarthy hilarious & the Heat, while admittedly a bit predictable, was hilarious as well. Looking forward to this project.

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