Star Trek Into Darkness
A Glimpse Inside the Mind of Charles Swan III
I want Fincher. No one else, Fincher. The first movie was one of my favorite films of 2011, and a lot of that was due to his direction. If he won't return I will be much less excited. And Sony, don't be so stupid with the film this time. It performed extremely well for its subject matter, but it was made for 100 million. Why? I love the film but why? I know Fincher's a big spending but 100 MILLION for a film like this was seriously pushing it. Did you really expect a big return on investment with a budget like that? It could have been made for half of that, I wouldn't have noticed a difference, and it would have been a nice little hit. And don't open it in Christmas on the same weekend as Mission Impossible and Sherlock Holmes next time.
Aug 23 - 04:23 PM
But Fincher says he's finishes which kind of implies he has no passion for the project. You want a passionless Fincher over a Passionate some body else!!??
hmmm...reading my post I have to admit. That is a tough call.
Aug 23 - 05:32 PM
The original was made for less than a tenth of what Fincher's American version cost. It really is mind boggling how a drama cost that much to make.
Aug 23 - 08:46 PM
I mean, THE HUNGER GAMES cost 20 million less, come on.
Aug 24 - 04:26 AM
Regarding the budget the fault lies completely with Fincher. He's a great directing but he always has a knack for making his films cost way more than they should. Zodiac looked like a film that could be made for 40 mil and yet it ended up costing 80 mil. Fight Club cost 60 mil and was released in 1999. To put that into perspective, The Matrix was released in the same year with an identical budget, while the Mummy cost only slightly more.
Also, the christmas release date was actually a pretty important part of it's marketing, as it was sold as the feel-bad-movie of the season, an angle that should have helped it stand out from the competetion. Besides, it's not like it had direct competetion with MI4 and Sherlock 2 given that both of those films were PG-13 action films and The Girl with the Dragon Tatoo was an R-rated drama. And christmas is a time when multiple films can perform really well without one hurting the other. Sherlock Holmes and Alvin and the Chipmunks 2, for example, both made over 200 mil despite opening in the shadow of Avatar.
And I think Sony WAS expecting it to be bigger. Yeah it had a pretty good gross, but when you consider that it's based on a book whose sales dwarf those of the entire Hunger Games trilogy combined and was critically acclaimed you can't help but wonder why it didn't make more, though I suppose it suffered from the swedish version still being fresh in people's minds, especially considered how big it was for a foreign film.
Aug 24 - 01:17 AM
True, a lot of the fault lies with Fincher, but Sony really should have reigned him in a bit, I adore the film but 100 million was just ridiculous. And what's sells in the literary world won't always sell well in cinema. And the Xmas release was a cool marketing gimmick, but it's the time for feel good/sentimental/famiIy or teen oriented blockbusters. All the films you listed fit that category. There really wasn't a market for it at the time. It would have done better in October/November. Barring that, I think it did the best it possibly could really. An almost 3 hour movie that some would argue (not me though) as being borderline NC-17 with graphic rape and murder ain't exactly gonna be a box office smash
Aug 24 - 04:18 AM
Question. I saw the foreign version of Girl with The Dragon Tattoo and thought it was 'ok', is it worth watching Fincher's version if I already know basically everything that's gonna happen?
Aug 23 - 10:20 PM
I would say yes because Fincher's visuals are much stronger and Mara and Craig are very good. The ending is a little different, too.
Aug 24 - 01:00 AM
Very much so. Fincher's direction and the overall acting (Mara deserved the acting accolades of the year if you ask me, and Craig is a MASSIVE improvement over the male lead) and writing is much stronger, and it has some really tense moments that'll keep you squirming even if you know the story. It's very atmospheric too, it has a wonderful, involving winter look that totally sucks you in and makes you feel immersed. I read the book and saw the Swede version beforehand, and I find it to be one of the best films of 2011. Totally worth it.
Aug 24 - 04:23 AM
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