I had no idea that college debating was so boring. You will agree with me.
I clicked on this article cause I wanted to read a review, not an explanation for why some self-aggrandizing critic isn't a racist.
Dec 11 - 07:57 PM
So, blacks did not have to go the extra mile to be recognized and overcome racism and elitism in the 30's? (Dress in suits, overcome adverse backgrounds, etc.) People who lived these situations understand ... you don't. This is a story worth telling, and I will go to see it.
People who have never had to deal with bigotry and racism just will never know what it is like. You can go to Africa 1000 times. Do something over here to help overcome the damage racism has wrought upon the Africa-American community; that might impress me.
You are funny with your proclamations of "I'm not a bigot, and my white buddies want me to be their great white hope to go against the Denzel smear machine". ;) You remind me of another caricature: "Some of my best friends are black".
So far, Angelina Jolie and is one of the few affluent white's that DO something about their desire to help, and in the open, not behind closed doors.
Your discussion was more race politics than the critique of a movie, so you got much of the same from me. ;)
Dec 13 - 08:18 AM
Jesse and Al are busy right now, but you may issue your formal apology to the following web address:
Weeping while you type is encouraged.
Disclaimer: It is not my intention to make light of the struggle black people have faced in this country. Most of my neighbors are black.
You don't post names and addresses - right?!
Dec 13 - 12:48 PM
I was at the premier of "The Great Debaters"; it was a great story line, great acting, the best cast of the year! A lot of heart and soul went into the movie. Denzel Washington did a absolutely fantastic job at directing this film as well as acting in it. It deserves in several respects Academy Award nominations. My description in words: integrity, high quality, meaningful, superb!...and I am caucasian, by the way; I also have done humanitarian work all over the world; so bolony with all that garbage. It is simply a wonderful movie and not boring at all! It is a great family movie. I can't wait to bring my kids; and God forbid that we ever forget our errors in history.
Dec 13 - 03:08 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. I am an 8th grade teacher and would like to take 150 7th and 8th graders to this movie after the holidays. Since you have seen the premier, could you tell me why is it getting the PG-13 rating?
Dec 18 - 07:19 AM
Let me clarify. I agree with debster 401's comments not the obviously "non-racist" reviewer of this movie. If anyone could give me an opinion about taking 12-14 year-old kids to see this from a history and debate standpoint I would be grateful. Thanks...
Dec 18 - 07:30 AM
Go ahead and bring them. There is nothing in the movie that would worry them or a parent. I am conservative and brought my children.
Dec 28 - 08:49 AM
Dec 28 - 08:52 AM
Dec 28 - 08:53 AM
Go ahead and bring your children to this film. There is nothing in the movie that would worry them or a parent. The movie is done in good taste. I am conservative with what my children watch; they have seen it.
Dec 28 - 08:55 AM
Dec 16 - 04:52 PM
I really didnt want to make a comment because obviously that was what you want.Anyway to be I have no qualms with you not liking the movie ,but there is nothing as annoying as someone trying to justify making negative comments by saying they went to Africa.I am African and have seen you guys come over it is not to interact with Africans or help,it is just to be sanctimonious and be able to make racist comment and justify it by saying I have been to Africa,
p.s the comment about everything being rt in Denzels world because Julia Roberts like him was a joke right
Dec 17 - 03:54 AM
OK You proved it! You don't have to be a racist to be an idiot. Happy now?
Dec 17 - 04:34 AM
no she is now a racist matanuki. You are ignorant
Dec 17 - 02:33 PM
Her biggest beef seems to be 'how do you give a negative review to this without sounding racist?'Like this: "While its heart is in the right place, it smells like Oscar bait: it's built on a topic nobody can hang a bad word on, filled with plenty of star power, and a melodramatic seriousness hangs over the whole affair. But, as any debater knows, simply shouting louder than the other person does not win the argument, and simply hitting people over the head with an important message does not necessarily make a good movie. In the director's seat, Washington handles the whole affair with a lack of subtlety, as overacting and emoting to the back row take precedence over nuanced, compelling performances that might better resonate with audiences....And while I understand that racism and bigotry towards blacks was far more prevalent in that day and age, it seems unfair to write off all of the white characters as tobacco-spittin' ign'nant know-nothin' slack-jawed rednecks or stuffy, snobbish Ivy-Leaguers." See? That sounds a lot better than "Why does Denzel Washington hate white people? Why does anyone want to see another movie about how bad things used to be?"And the more you say "look, I'm not racist/homophobe/etc., here's my credentials", the more negative attention you draw to yourself for it.
Dec 17 - 06:10 PM
That was pretty good, maybe you should write movie reviews.
Feb 8 - 01:37 PM
Uh huh, Ragalar. Whatever you say.
Dec 18 - 05:29 AM
When I was first forwarded excerpts of your review, I refused to fully respond before reading the review in its entirety and gave you the benefit of the doubt in hopes that your statements were taken out of context. I didn%u2019t want to take you to task for what seemed like some of the most idiotic, ignorant, ill-informed statements made in a review concerning a historical adaptation in the past 10 years. So I patiently waited for my e-mail box to be filled with a link to the full review. After taking the time to read your %u201Ccritiques%u201D, I%u2019ve realized the person who sent me the excerpts was actually a friend who was trying their best to protect you from the world knowing how much of an idiot you were.
As I said in my original comment to the person whom sent me the excerpts, opinions are like ******* because everyone has one and I hope this reviewer%u2019s "know more about African culture from first-hand, feet on the ground experience then all of my black neighbors and friends put together" *** doesn%u2019t deter anyone with any sense of AMERICAN HISTORY from seeing a true story that has taken way too long to be brought to light. I read the original article that inspired this film in the American Legacy magazine and it did a great job of translating the story to film in my humble NYU Film school graduate opinion. As for your assertion that someone who was a poetic wordsmith, instrumental in bringing fare working conditions for his fellow men and women through unionizing, in-turn couldn%u2019t possibly have the time to mold the minds of the young men and women of Wiley College as their professor and debate coach which then lead to them beating what by most to this day is thought to be the brightest minds in our country, you my dear are a lost cause and there is no need for anyone to try and bring you to the light.
P.S. and I hope with all my heart that your *** is black when you start this review out using the word Negros.
Dec 20 - 12:52 PM
Dec 20 - 12:53 PM
TO BLANK FRANK,
I LOVE YOUR COMMENT! VERY WELL SAID. I'm not sure if that was a quote from your review or a quote taken from someone else%u2019s review of the film, but even though I don't agree with it, that stands as a perfect example of a well stated point. If the quote is from another reviewer, I%u2019d appreciate it if you could inform me of its origin.
Dec 20 - 01:12 PM
Dec 22 - 11:38 PM
The fact that you went so far out of your way to say you're not a racist makes this review completely biased. White people were caricatures? The movie showed BOTH races in their ignorant and educated stages.Your review is self righteous and irresponsible. As you can see with how many comments you got against your viewpoint you obviously missed the point of the film. It's reviews like this that make critics look bad. This is a rant, not a review.
Dec 24 - 05:55 AM
Dec 25 - 12:40 AM
I agree with mlbuie. Wiley College is not in Africa. Traveling to Africa (with or without an air conditioned bus) does not make you uniquely qualified to critique movies that deal with the Black experience IN AMERICA. If you are so concerned about not appearing racist, why not save the air fare and spend some time learning something about the lives of African-AMERICANS who live in this country. And if you don't like the movie, then just say so. I mean, honestly. Going out of your way to not appear racist only makes you appear even more racist. If you are that worried about what people think of you, them maybe you shouldn't be a critic.
Dec 25 - 04:10 AM
Dec 25 - 07:50 AM
The last time i checked and that was a while back when i went home to Nigeria(WEST AFRICA), Togo, Benin, Burkina Faso were not in Central Africa. I cringed when i saw that. Please get your information right and have fun rolling around in buses without air conditions.
And what does your trip to Africa have to do with the movie?
Dec 25 - 08:29 PM
If you have to qualify anything with any form of "I'm not a racist but..." guess what, you're a racist. Review the movie next time not black America.
Jan 9 - 09:19 AM