Five Favorite Films with Hellboy II's Doug Jones
Your Five Favorite Films are interesting because they seem to speak to you as an actor's actor, not just a creature actor. You've not only done great creature work in films like Pan's Labyrinth and Hellboy, you also play regular characters. Has it been strange to become known for your work under prosthetics as opposed to the latter? Doug Jones: Thank you. It's very kind of you to notice that. If you asked me this a few years ago, I might have said that the day would come where I'm not wearing prosthetics anymore and I'm just doing straight acting roles. But you know what I think I've learned in the last couple years especially, is that with a little bit more recognition, a certain respect and dignity has returned to these kinds of roles --- monsters with a heart. It's a throwback to the Golden Era, when you had Bela Lugosi and Boris Karloff and Lon Chaney doing these roles that were leading men in their own little creature-y, freaky little way. Directors like Guillermo del Toro (pictured at left with Jones at the Hellboy II premiere), who like to tell that kind of story, take you to a fantastical world but deal with real human issues when they get there. That's brought a certain, like I said, respect and dignity to this kind of story and this kind of acting, so that I'm now happy to continue it until the day I die. In fact, I'll tell you the perfect way for me to die. You want to hear it? I think if I'm on a Guillermo del Toro film --- and I want to finish it for him, I don't want to leave him hanging --- and my last day, when they yell, "It's a wrap on Doug Jones," that's how I want to die. That's the perfect way for me to go.
That's really sweet. It speaks to the bond that you and Guillermo have obviously formed by working together.
DJ: We definitely do have a sort of shorthand with each other, and a respect for each other, and an actor-director relationship that really works and doesn't need a whole lot of dialogue. We understand each other with very few words.
Speaking of words, let's talk about how you came to voice your character, Abe Sapien, in Hellboy II. We know that David Hyde Pierce, who voiced Abe in the first Hellboy while you did the physical acting, had such tremendous respect for your performance in that film that he had his credit removed.
DJ: He's a gentleman beyond words. And in an ego-driven business like ours it's unheard of for an actor to do what David Hyde Pierce did. The more questionable thing is, how did it come about that someone was voiced over like that in the first place? When presented with an acting role, any actor assumes they're taking on the character, and that would include all of it -- it would include the visuals and the audio part and everything. I don't walk down the street doing half of Doug Jones! I walk into a 7-11 and I get to order for myself. So originally it was kind of like, you've got this major make-up, and you've got A-list celebrities that probably don't want to don that much make-up and be obliterated in the face, so the studio was thinking, we'll get someone to physically pull it off, and we'll get an A-list name that we can market with the film that'll provide the voice, and there you go. We can attach a name to the part without gruesome amounts of make-up on that person. When I heard that that's what the plan was -- that was already decided by the time I was cast --- I said, hey, how about we don't do that? How about I get to do the part, as I'd play any part? So I was given the opportunity to be one of the voices being considered, but at the time Doug Jones didn't carry a lot of weight as a name, as a marketing tool. In the end, everyone was happy with my performance, and I was kind of directed even to sound like... Guillermo wanted me to sound a little bit like Niles Crane from Frasier, with a little bit of HAL the computer from 2001: A Space Odyssey. So I kind of affected a sound for Abe that wasn't far from David Hyde Pierce anyway. He, being the gentleman that he is, heard my performance in his ear piece when he came in to voice-over, and he saw my performance on film, and he kind of backed away saying, "Why am I here?" It was one of those things where he, as legend goes, was very much a gentleman that backed away from taking a credit in the film and doing any press, and doing any limelight-type things, and he left that all to me. Which was very, very, very sweet and kind of him.
So that continued through to the animated features, when he was offered the voice of Abe Sapien, and he politely declined. And that's when they just deferred to me immediately. Part of the discussion that Guillermo had with me, when he told me about the first film and what happened with the voice, was he said, "If we get the blessing and the opportunity to do a Hellboy II, I would like to have your voice back in it." So this animated feature was a nice transitional period to do that in, and by the time Hellboy II came around, I was assured and promised that the voice would stay intact as mine. I love David Hyde Pierce, I think he's a wonderful actor, but it really is nice to have that whole baby, in its entirety, back in my hands again. Before I was kind of holding a baby without legs [Laughs]. In Hellboy II, Abe has a considerably large storyline; was that borne of fan love of Abe from the first movie, and will that prominence carry over to the third movie?
DJ: Yes, and yes. And I believe it's also borne of Guillermo del Toro's love for Abe Sapien. I'll share a little moment with you from the set. We were doing the scene in the library, when Abe and the lovely Princess Nuala are getting to know each other over a book of poetry. There was this backlight that shined and hit my gills, and Guillermo said to me, before we rolled on the next take, "There's something about the way the light shines on Abe's gills that just makes my heart flutter." That was one way of him expressing his absolute adoration for Abe Sapien. So, yes; I think there was a resounding cry from the fans for more Abe in the second film, and there was a desire in Guillermo all along to build on Abe as well.
Next: Doug Jones' dream role
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Crhualsees writes: on Jul 08 2008 07:59 PM Wow, those movies SUCK... (Reply to this) |
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stacilayne writes: on Jul 08 2008 09:12 PM Great idea for an interview, Jen. Doug is amazing, and really underrated (even now; hopefully, he'll become more well-known when Hellboy 2 comes out). I would have guessed a couple of those movies, but there were some surprises, too. Good stuff. Thanks for always thinking outside the ol' box. (Reply to this) |
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crossouttheD writes: on Jul 08 2008 09:26 PM In reply to this comment (#1853944) Not cool. Doug Jones is eccentric, not "gay" (the real way you spell it neanderthale.) (Reply to this) |
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adu writes: on Jul 09 2008 12:25 AM They say he'll have a role in the Hobbit, I wonder who he'll play. (Reply to this) |
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jacog writes: on Jul 09 2008 12:50 AM You misspelled "neanderthal". :) His movie choices are not bad, except Meet Joe Black, which was rather daft on many levels. (Reply to this) |
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vaodsi writes: on Jul 09 2008 01:35 AM doug jones is my best friends father.;) (Reply to this) |
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Gimy writes: on Jul 09 2008 05:41 AM what the h3ll does this guy actually sound like? i don't know him(no offense buddy) but the only two roles i've seen him in are F4 and Hellboy(saw it, wasn't impressed). thats like playing first base and having a DH for you, its pretty sad. its even MORE sad when you get replaced by a massively manly voice like...the dude from Frasier. who the h3ll cares if the dude(which it looks like) is gay? are you not going to see the flick because of it? gonna break out ya bibles and throw it threw the movie screen when Hello-boy 2 comes out? c'mon...its 2008, not 1955. accept and get over it people. (Reply to this) |
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jasper de large writes: on Jul 09 2008 07:23 AM i like airplane!, meet joe black, and waiting for guffman, want to see waking ned devine but i think i'd pass on somewhere in time (Reply to this) |
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mm273589 writes: on Jul 09 2008 07:27 AM If not for the interview on Rotten Tomatoes with the cast of Hellboy, I wouldn't have recognized Doug when I saw him at a restaurant in Burbank. I approached him and asked if he was in the movies. Mind you, he was the first celebrity I've ever talked to (other than Ann Magnuson!!). He was extremely gracious and polite, introduced himself, and let me get a picture with him! He was a super friendly person! I would have been even more flustered had I known he was in Pan's Labyrinth! That was an amazing film! Meeting Doug was memorable and very enjoyable!!! (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jul 09 2008 09:35 AM I'm glad some of you appreciate Doug Jones and didn't revert back to infancy with your comments. (And hi Staci! -- Ladies and gentlemen, Ms. Staci Layne Wilson!) To the reader who met him in Burbank, I agree; he's probably the nicest man in Hollywood, and a delight to interview. Plus, he's inhabited some of the most memorable creature characters in recent years -- even without voicing them, which of course is the choice of producers and not his own. (Reply to this) |
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Kudama writes: on Jul 09 2008 09:37 AM Who the heck is posting comments these days? 9 year olds? (Reply to this) |
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arendr writes: on Jul 09 2008 09:50 AM In reply to this comment (#1855422) 8 year olds, dude. (Reply to this) |
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lestatthevampire writes: on Jul 09 2008 10:17 AM Looks like you got a spammer, RT. (Reply to this) |
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vaodsi writes: on Jul 09 2008 10:21 AM Jasper....Waking Ned Devine is AWESOME! SEE IT!!!!! doug jones is probably the most unappreciated actor in the business. I thought Andy Serkis was unappreciated when he didn't get an oscar nomination for Gollum, but at least EVERYBODY knew his name thanx to the big "ANDY SERKIS AS GOLLUM" text on the posters. Doug Jones is just in the backround, doing his thing brilliantly. Can't wait for hellboy. AND FRANKENSTEIN!!!!!!! YESSSSSSS!!!!!! DEATH TO ALL EIGHT YEAR OLD SPAMMERS and R I C H K I S S!!!!!!!!!! WE'LL CAPTURE THEM, hang them by their toes AND FEED THEM TO ELI ROTH!!!!! (Reply to this) |
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Skekses writes: on Jul 09 2008 10:38 AM Doug Jones is a different kind of actor that more people should appreciate. A lot of the best actors couldn't do what he does, especially physically. And the Frankenstein idea? I'd see it in a heartbeat. (Reply to this) |
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RT-Ryan writes: on Jul 09 2008 10:45 AM We're taking care of the problematic comments at the moment. As for the article itself, Doug Jones seems like a classy guy. He's been great in everything I've seen him in, so best of luck to the guy. (Reply to this) |
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RT-Ryan writes: on Jul 09 2008 10:46 AM Oh, and yes, if Del Toro did a Frankenstein movie with Doug Jones, I'd be there, no question. That would be incredible. (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jul 09 2008 11:00 AM Just so you know, those comments and spammers will be gone very shortly. (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jul 09 2008 11:24 AM Also, I got in touch with the creator of that incredible Frankenstein design, Alex Tuis. He's got his own website (http://a.tuis.free.fr/) and has done a lot of concept design/poster art for movies like Frontieres, James Wong's Dragonball movie, and the planned remake of Spider Baby. If you like his Frankenstein, I'd definitely recommend checking out his other work. (Reply to this) |
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minderbinder writes: on Jul 09 2008 11:42 AM "its even MORE sad when you get replaced by a massively manly voice like...the dude from Frasier" Did you even read the article? He got replaced because they wanted to use a celebrity name to promote the movie - even DHP admitted that his performance was good and not much different from what DHP did. Same thing happened with F4, another "name" to add an obviously recognizable voice. Movies would be much better off with performances that suit the character instead of distract you with a recognizable voice that sticks out. And you RT guys REALLY need to add "report abuse" to article comments. I have to wonder if any moderation happens at all, have you seen some of the threads on say, the Hancock board?? (Reply to this) |
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