"Indy 4": Back to the Ark?

It's still about a year away from gracing our neighborhood air-conditioned palaces of cinema, but the gossip train has been running full-speed on "Indiana Jones 4" for months, and it shows no sign of slowing down -- from Quint at Ain't It Cool News comes word that maybe, just maybe, "Indy 4"'s storyline will bring the series full circle.

We're talking, naturally, about the Ark of the Covenant, last seen disappearing among countless crates in a warehouse at the end of "Raiders of the Lost Ark." According to the AICN article, that warehouse might be in an interesting location:

The rumor is that the warehouse we see at the end of Raiders is in Groom Lake (aka Area 51) and the Russians are trying to find it in order to one-up the American military might.

Seeing as how we know (and by "know," we mean "can assume as safely as anything regarding this movie") that Indy's "Raiders" flame, Karen Allen's Marion Ravenwood, is in the film -- and that John Hurt might be appearing as Marion's dad -- this makes sense, and the idea of the series obtaining natural closure (or at least a pause before those rumors of Shia LaBeouf taking over the franchise come to fruition) is appealing. However, as Quint cautions us, there's a reason they call them "rumors":

I love the idea, but from what I know of the film, from trusted sources within the company, there?s just not really any room for the Ark of the Covenant in the story they're telling. It?s not the main thrust of the movie if it is in the flick and I just can?t see it as being something they?d sideline.

In short, we really don't know any more about the movie than we did before. But wild conjecture can be its own reward...right?

Source: Ain't It Cool News

Comments

Mr. Kong

Sam jacobs

So what will it be called, Indiana Jones: New Raiders of the found ark in Area 51?

Jul 10 - 12:21 PM

rusvgogh

Russell Baggins

That's a catchy title.....I like it!

Jul 10 - 12:43 PM

rusvgogh

Russell Baggins

That's a catchy title.....I like it!

Jul 10 - 12:43 PM

LoZHero

Dave Shine

Catchy!
Gotta nice ring to it.

If the Ark is in 51 I think it would be more of a quick reference like in Last Crusade.

Jul 10 - 12:43 PM

7thhell

jason johnson

Sounds interesting. Along with the Ark, maybe they will find that UFO that crashed...

Jul 10 - 01:37 PM

Merlin235

Merlin Ambrosius

Sounds like it would be interesting. It'd be fun to have it come full circle.

Jul 10 - 01:50 PM

arendr

Arend Anton

It's funny how people freaked when they heard Area 51 would be in this movie. This makes it seem like there's a decent reason for it. People need to wait until they get more facts before they jump to conclusions.

Jul 10 - 01:54 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

I'd rather they left it open ended. Especially if it's just going to be a passing opening sequence. Like the cross of Coronado in Last Crusade. Part of the appeal of the ending of Ark was it was so open ended.

Jul 10 - 01:58 PM

BuckyUnderbelly

Robb Badlam

[b]Big opening[/b]
Yeah, I'm betting that this is nothing more than a big, flashy action set piece designed to open the movie with a bang. Haven't we heard several rumors already that the movie opens with a big sequence of Indy fighting Russians at Area 51? I'm guessing this will have as much to do with the main plot as Indy grabbing that little fat gold guy from the tomb at the beginning of Raiders. It'll be a fun way to kick off the movie, but it won't have much bearing on the plot. Though, if you're looking for patterns, generally the Indy movies use these opening action sequences to introduce us to important supporting characters. So maybe we'll be introduced to Abner Ravenwood or maybe a villain. Just as the openings of Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade introduced us to Belloq, Willie and Dr. Jones, Sr. respectively.
... So I'm betting that the Ark will essentially be making a cameo in the first ten minutes of the movie before we settle down and get on with the main quest of the story. Whatever that may be ...

Jul 10 - 02:14 PM

ninjaandy

Andrew O'Neill

But Abner Ravenwood is dead by the time Raiders takes place, and this one is in the 1950's. Then again, if Hurt really is Ravenwood then this lends credence to this being the opening action piece: it would be a flashback, ala Last Crusade.

Jul 10 - 04:53 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

I think the premise they're going with is that Abner wasn't really dead. It's not like you ever see the body.

Jul 11 - 02:49 AM

TheAnswerMVP2001

Snipes .

Yea I posted this yesterday, in the forums. It's an interesting idea.

Jul 10 - 05:57 PM

rabid1017

Craig Alden

You know, Indy's always at its best when it's playing with Christian mythology. Please, let's not go down the UFO/conspiracy theory mythology path, it's far less interesting and far more commonly done.

Jul 10 - 10:30 PM

Devoted95

Faizan Laghari

[b]Dont care!!![/b]
Who cares if they go for the Lost Ark and make it full circle?????..Lets just give Indy the classic rope so he whips some serious ass...YEAHHH!!!..I just hope they have an interesting story which involves really wild adventures like the previous films and especially the Last Crusade.

Jul 10 - 11:24 PM

Kaleli

Michael Chovan

The thing with Indiana Jones is the movies really were independent story lines. There was a little allusion to prior adventures, but each movie stood on it's own.

"Coming full circle" just wouldn't do it for me. I wouldn't mind it dealing with Area 51 and they inadvertently stumble across the Ark while in search of something else.....THAT would work.

But having the Arc be the focus (again) would be yawn inspiring at the least.

Hopefully this isn't true.

Jul 11 - 12:03 AM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

I think the premise they're going with is that Abner wasn't really dead. It's not like you ever see the body.

Jul 11 - 02:49 AM

dolby70mm

Dan Last

[b]CT & NM[/b]
Is the setting of the story only going to be taking place in the 1950's U.S.?

Jul 11 - 02:55 AM

Rusty Broomhandle

Jaco Gerber

Soooo will Indy and pops suddenly not be immortal anymore? I'm confussed... I thought "immortal" meant... well... immortal.

Jul 11 - 05:52 AM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Did anyone actually watch The Last Crusade. They were only immortal as long as they kept drinking constantly from the cup, which was lost with their immortality at the end of the movie.

Jul 11 - 07:42 AM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Did anyone actually watch The Last Crusade. They were only immortal as long as they kept drinking constantly from the cup, which was lost with their immortality at the end of the movie.

Jul 11 - 07:42 AM

Spectremjm

Mark Marble

They were immortal as long as they didn't cross the great seal. It didn't have to do with constantly drinking from the cup. If they stayed there, and didn't cross the seal, they would be immortal.

Jul 11 - 07:56 AM

Merlin235

Merlin Ambrosius

I think it is fair to say that there is a little bit of ambiguity left at the end of Last Crusade. The movie only said 'whoever drinks from the cup of Christ shall have everlasting life' or something like that. He didn't have to keep drinking from it (or if he did the movie didn't mention it) and the seal only had to do with the actual holy grail not passing it, not eternal life. At least that's what I got from it.

Jul 11 - 11:24 AM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

See but if you go with the one drink theory and discount the seal theory, why did the knights brothers die of extreme old age? Shouldn't they have gone on living forever?

Jul 11 - 01:54 PM

bgko18

Brandon Griffo

"But the grail cannot pass beyond the great seal. That is the boundary and price of immortality." And he died of extreme old age because he passed beyond it. I think he was walking to town or something like that.

Jul 24 - 12:50 AM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

See I thought the cup just couldn't pass the seal hence the cave in and I took the fact that you had to constantly keep drinking from it as an explanation as to why the guardian knight aged. If all you had to do was drink once that's pretty shabby immortality if it only lasts 700 years whereas its very believable that after 700 years in a cave in the desert even the most devout person might have moments of doubt and not drink for a few days with the thought to just giving up the ghost or he was a pretty crappy guard and wandered into town on the weekends to whore it up and get snockered. Which I find less believable cause who's not gonna notice a guy in crusader armor wandering around their middle eastern market? Bottom line the immortality the cup provided was pretty restricted and wouldn't help Indy or his old man not to age.

Jul 11 - 01:47 PM

Merlin235

Merlin Ambrosius

I think it is fair to say that there is a little bit of ambiguity left at the end of Last Crusade. The movie only said 'whoever drinks from the cup of Christ shall have everlasting life' or something like that. He didn't have to keep drinking from it (or if he did the movie didn't mention it) and the seal only had to do with the actual holy grail not passing it, not eternal life. At least that's what I got from it.

Jul 11 - 11:24 AM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

See but if you go with the one drink theory and discount the seal theory, why did the knights brothers die of extreme old age? Shouldn't they have gone on living forever?

Jul 11 - 01:54 PM

bgko18

Brandon Griffo

"But the grail cannot pass beyond the great seal. That is the boundary and price of immortality." And he died of extreme old age because he passed beyond it. I think he was walking to town or something like that.

Jul 24 - 12:50 AM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

See I thought the cup just couldn't pass the seal hence the cave in and I took the fact that you had to constantly keep drinking from it as an explanation as to why the guardian knight aged. If all you had to do was drink once that's pretty shabby immortality if it only lasts 700 years whereas its very believable that after 700 years in a cave in the desert even the most devout person might have moments of doubt and not drink for a few days with the thought to just giving up the ghost or he was a pretty crappy guard and wandered into town on the weekends to whore it up and get snockered. Which I find less believable cause who's not gonna notice a guy in crusader armor wandering around their middle eastern market? Bottom line the immortality the cup provided was pretty restricted and wouldn't help Indy or his old man not to age.

Jul 11 - 01:47 PM

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