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Variety Says Iron Man Won't Fly; Favreau Says Otherwise
by Jen Yamato | September 15, 2007
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Summary

Remember those awesome scenes of Iron Man flying through the air alongside a couple of fighter jets in the crowd-pleasing trailer first unveiled at Comic-Con? Don't count on seeing them in the finished film, Variety says. Back to Article
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zbbrox
zbbrox writes:
on Sep 15 2007 09:49 PM

1: Those flying shots looked awesome. Seriously. Fact. If you think they looked "funny", then you have a problem with the what a guy in armor flying with planes would actually look like. 'Cause that was it.
2: Downey is a very, very good actor, and he looks like he's taking to this part very well. He's the best guy I can think of for this role.
3: To whoever complained about the use of the Sabbath song--This movie is new, yes, but the character of Iron Man is older than the song Iron Man, by about 7 years.
4: Will this movie make a ton of money? No idea. But it damn sure looks like it's gonna be good. As long as Favreau can pull off an action movie, I see no reason this shouldn't be in the upper echelons of comic movies. Oh, and from what I hear, Speed Racer might be cool and all, but God damn that was a ****ty cartoon, and Iron Man as a property is infinitely superior to Speed Racer. You may as well compare Battle of the Planets to Wolverine.


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Sledgetomato
Sledgetomato writes:
on Sep 15 2007 11:42 PM

I had no problem with the trailer and or the music. I know the music was just for fun and not to be taken seriously with the film. It's not like they're going to use Black Sabbath's song for the beginning of the real movie. The only problem now is having to *wait* 8 months.

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Atticus is HIGHLY TENSE
Atticus is HIGHLY TENSE writes:
on Sep 15 2007 11:52 PM

I didn't buy into that Variety article anyways. Apparently the author of that lil headliner was an idiot anyways. I read that quote from ILM, and not once did I think OH NOES, no flying sequences for Iron Man?

Just a typical case of jackassery on Variety's part. Of course Iron Man is gonna fly in the film. That's what he does in the comic books. Did they ground Superman? Yeah, try to think just a little harder next time Variety.


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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Sep 16 2007 12:29 AM

Wow cgcbooks, you are a quite a slow troll.

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TheIceGhost
TheIceGhost writes:
on Sep 16 2007 01:07 AM

You know what - it's Robert Downey Jr as a superhero. That's enough for me.

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romsy
romsy writes:
on Sep 16 2007 01:48 AM

The movie looks great so far. Downey Jr. is Stark, an alcoholic playboy, yeah he's built

for this role. Whats the big deal with the CG anyways, how did that not look rad, and

what movie are you all talking about where a guy fights fighter jets? cause that seemed

pretty different to me.


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eastern2western
eastern2western writes:
on Sep 16 2007 07:58 AM

You people should never judge a movie by its trailer. Traliers can make any junk look very good because it is a basic commercial with quick cuts and music.


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ericssin
ericssin writes:
on Sep 16 2007 08:17 AM

I have been playing around with 3d animation for some time and well I have to say that the flying scene looked bad, the CGI was very poor(as they say it seems they rushed in making it, ), if they include that on the movie they must improve the rendering with all the money they waste they can get a good photorealistic shot, only problem is that since you have an object in the middle of nothing and nowhere to cast shadows it makes it harder to create realism.

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Jexy
Jexy writes:
on Sep 16 2007 09:54 AM

Wait.... Isn't Iron Man good? Why would he be fighting F-22's... which are American. Or is he going to help the F-22's fight someone else? (Must be something super since F-22's would shoot down whatever it is before their target could even see them on radar) It looked like the F-22's were just following him... not fighting. Since they would have no reason to. Oh well... I hope it turns out well. The trailer was pretty cool.

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Baccus83
Baccus83 writes:
on Sep 16 2007 09:56 AM

In reply to this comment (#1125079)
Are you seriously critiquing the logic of a comic-book movie?

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eastern2western
eastern2western writes:
on Sep 16 2007 02:03 PM

In reply to this comment (#1128208)
Yes, I am because a lot of these heroes require audiences to ssupend their logical thinking. For example, why would super hero wear capes when villains can easily use it against them (Incredibles reference). What about super heroes wearing skin tight leather suits. I know that looks good for the screen, but how long can they survive in an environement that is 100 degrees or above. What about everyone's favorite spiderman. How does he do his laundry wtihout getting notice? Does he have his personal tailor who repairs his suits or does he do it by himself? These are just few of the many things about the inconsistency about superhero movies. I truly wish that some one can come up with a movie that exploits all of the inconssitencies of the super hero genre.

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Mazula
Mazula writes:
on Sep 16 2007 04:07 PM

While I prefer more realistic movies as well, these superhero movies you are talking about have these illogical elements because they are comic book translations. They needed to be flashy in the comic books to make them look "cool" and instantly recognizable. If they arent done the same way in a movie, then they just arent true translations. And its not just to please the fanboys, its because everyone associates the character and name with the costume. And to make a completely logical comic book movie, everything that makes a comic book movie into an actual comic book movie would have to be taken out. I mean superheros are super because of their powers, which in a completely realistic world would be impossible. So quit complaining about inconsistencies. And about your last sentence, I think Batman Begins is the best example of your wish because there are pretty logical explanations for everything (even the cape), and it is incidentally my favorite superhero movie.

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Mazula
Mazula writes:
on Sep 16 2007 04:09 PM

my post above was supposed to be a reply to eastern2western. it didnt work for some reason when i clicked to reply.

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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Sep 16 2007 07:10 PM

Ericssin you must of never dealt with 3D animation because you are dead wrong, sorry but i trust the word of people working for pixar, ILM, Epic Games, Midway, EA, etc. over a troll like you.

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DariusVIII
DariusVIII writes:
on Sep 16 2007 09:08 PM

In reply to this comment (#1128741)
Replying to eastern2western:

Have you ever watched a movie? I mean, like one? Or read a comic book? Your Incredibles reference was totally off. In each of the little snippits shown in that movie of how capes are lethal handicaps, it was always due to a freak accident like a plane jet or a tornado, not a villain. Second, some super heros have always been drawn with capes, so to portray them in a movie without them would be like to portray Captain Hook without the hook. I agree that super hero movies require audiences to suspend there belief, but that is their very nature, to be fantastical, to be "super." That is what makes them so amazing and entertaining to people, the stuff that's going on cannot, in real life, actually happen. So you, my friend, are watching the wrong genre if you want realistic or believable. But the way you argue your point is what really gets me. You argue about their clothing....ok, a leather suit, even skin tight, is not that hot. On a noraml, 70 degree day, you can wear that stuff for hours and be fine. As for Spider-Man doing his laundry, ha, that's laughable. Either a) he has his own washing machine, but he is kind of a poor college student, so therefore b) people think he has a costume that he washes, you remember that one scene in SP2 when he gets in the elevator with that guy with his dog. So as I said before, the so called inconsistencies you're complaining about are either void (99%) or built into the genre (1%). Don't hate.


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zturner
zturner writes:
on Sep 16 2007 10:53 PM

Anyone who wears a metal suit and smashes sh** and rocks out to Black Sabbath is God. Robert Downey Jr. is a great pick for this. It's about time someone does a bad a** movie on a comic book hero unlike the gay superman and hulk movies.

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RottenRob
RottenRob writes:
on Sep 16 2007 11:15 PM

I gotta agree, the flying scene looked pretty damned good to me. I loved the simple realism of it. With all the quality flying I've seen over the years in movies, this was still able to give me that startling, tingly-down-there feeling. I don't want to rip on the people complaining about it just for having an opinion that's different than mine but... what the truck is wrong with you! It looks awesome!

I love the tingle.

And zturner, doesn't Robert Downey Jr. generally seem a little gay to you? I'm straight, but I like a little gay in my superheroes.


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eastern2western
eastern2western writes:
on Sep 17 2007 12:18 AM

Darius I am just having a little fun with the super hero genre movies:
1) Yes it is true that leather can be okay during a 70 degrees day. However, does this mean heroes can not work in days that are too hot or too cold? If you have ever watched an interview the production crew did for the filming of Dark Knight in Chicago, even Christian Bale complained about having to get into the Bat suit in the middle of the summer. If you think leather suit is okay, then how about the Iron Man's suit? Unless that suit contains some kind of super temperature adjustment mechanism, there is no way that a normal human being can survive in an iron suit for long. The Iron Man trailer even has scene of the main hero flying with the fighter jets. What does he use for fuel? Where is the fuel tank or the source of the power? What about the heat flying can generate? Those are just some of the many logic thinkings that audience members have to abandon when they are watching these types of movies.


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aknddon3
aknddon3 writes:
on Sep 17 2007 01:26 AM

In reply to this comment (#1130046)
Eastern2western are you slow? Lets use some common sense. Can a person survive a radioactive spider bite? Are there aliens that look like human and absorb yellow sunlight? Are there mutant humans? Is there a guy who survived in ice for 60 years? Are there magical green rings that run off of willpower?

MORON.

p.s. if you are going to blast iron mans realism then use some common sense, you do not need a giant fuel pack if you run off of electrictity and nanotech.


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romsy
romsy writes:
on Sep 17 2007 03:34 AM

In reply to this comment (#1130046)
Wait, so the leather suits are what makes super hero movies unrealistic to you?

How about the fact that they are super hero movies, you know, powers that can't exist and

so on. Yeah, 'cause you know what? A guy with a metal skeleton and claws that come out of

his hands is not believable when in a leather suit, but if he wears jeans and a t-shirt,

i can totally see him being believable.


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