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Variety Says Iron Man Won't Fly; Favreau Says Otherwise

by Jen Yamato | September 15, 2007

Summary

Remember those awesome scenes of Iron Man flying through the air alongside a couple of fighter jets in the crowd-pleasing trailer first unveiled at Comic-Con? Don't count on seeing them in the finished film, Variety says. Back to Article

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Loserman writes:
on Sep 19 2007 09:43 PM

But the problem is, from where I'm sitting, that you're all trying to use rational thought, logic, and facts in a conversation with someone who is clearly immature, and sadly irrational and imbalanced. It's like trying to make sense out of the scribblings by a crazy person, someone who hears voices and sees things that don't exist. The best response is either no response or pat them on the head and say, "Wow, you were right all along." This nutbag is not worth your time or energy.

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tabascoman77 writes:
on Sep 19 2007 10:09 PM

Totally true, Loserman. I've dealt with the poor schmuck before...several times.

But, if Akn reads your post, he might let you have it just for insinuating that he's immature and irrational. In fact, I think you HAVE dealt with him before.

Fair warning. :)

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aknddon3 writes:
on Sep 19 2007 11:19 PM

You cited nothing.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Sep 19 2007 11:23 PM

Wow you know nothing about traits or anything. If i was born with blond hair when all my family has brown hair that does not mean i am a mutant it means that i have a RECESSIVE TRAIT, SICKLE CELL IS NOT A MUTATION IT IS A RECESSIVE TRAIT. Biology 101 here.

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jacog writes:
on Sep 20 2007 12:31 AM

So tell us about yourself then aknddon3... where did you study science and biology? Must be one hell of a good school since you deem yourself qualified to disagree with all of the scientific world.

And we HAVE cited things to you that have been published and is known fact.

And why does being from South Africa automatically make me a moron? Where are you from?

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SnorkleCat writes:
on Sep 20 2007 12:40 AM

Wow. aknddon3, you've actually inspired me to stop lurking and comment.

Sickle Cell is a genetic MUTATION in one's DNA, where the instructions on how to make hemoglobin get slightly messed up. I happen to have ONE recessive sickle cell trait, which means I do NOT have sickle cell anemia, but I AM immune to malaria, so it is a beneficial mutation for me to have. The fact that a trait is recessive or dominant has nothing to do with its being a mutation. The sickle cell trait is a genetic mutation which makes the carrier more fit and likely to survive in a hot, swampy environment such as Africa, India, Southeast Asia, etc. End of story.

ps. I really hope you ARE 12, because even someone with high school biology should know this.

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tabascoman77 writes:
on Sep 20 2007 03:49 AM

In reply to this comment (#1135825)
Sickle Cell Anemia is a genetic mutation. It was discovered to be so by chemist Linus Pauling in 1949.

In fact, Akn, HERE IS THE CITATION SO YOU CAN FINALLY STOP SAYING THAT IT'S "NOT A MUTATION":

"While collaborating on a report about postwar American science, Pauling became interested in the study of sickle-cell anemia. He perceived that the sickling of cells noted in this disease might be caused by a genetic mutation in the globin portion of the blood cell's hemoglobin. In 1949 he and his coworkers published a paper identifying the particular defect in hemoglobin's structure that was responsible for sickle-cell anemia, which thereby made this disorder the first %u201Cmolecular disease%u201D to be discovered. At that time, Pauling's article on the periodic law appeared in the 14th edition of Encyclop�dia Britannica."
-- Encyclopedia Britannica Online

And here's another one:

%u201CIn 1949, application of methods of physical chemistry directly to the study of a protein produced by a mutated gene led Pauling, Itano, Singer and Wells to identify the specific change in the protein brought about by the gene. The discovery of the first of the abnormal human hemoglobins which they described as causing a %u201Cmolecular disease%u201D-sickle cell anemia-was followed the identification of a large number of other proteins, each of which owed its difference from normal structure to a mutated gene. Ingram then showed that the change due to the mutation, in the case of each of two abnormal hemoglobins, was confined to a single amino acid residue at one point in one of the polypeptide chains composing the globin. There could be no doubt that genes controlled protein structure by specifying the sequence of amino acid residues in the polypeptide chains. The assumed basic functional correspondence was then altered from %u201Cone gene-one enzyme%u201D to %u201Cone gene-one polypeptide.%u201D
-- Geneticist L. C. Dunn. From "Old and New in Genetics," Bulletin of the New York Academy of Medicine, 40(5): 325-333, 329. May 1964.

And here's a link from YALE with a dissertation on Pauling's work on mutation and sickle cell anemia:
http://www.yale.edu/history/faculty/materials/strasser-ajmg-2002.pdf

Biology 101, here, kid.

It's so funny...you're kinda like Jimmy Fallon in Fever Pitch where Jimmy Fallon thinks he's playing tackle football instead of touch-football and they keep tagging him to down him and he just keeps runnin' anyway and his friend has to finally stop him and tells him, "This is TOUCH football! You were down back there and back there AND back there!"

I would like to think that we finally were able to stop you and tell you that you're down. Do you finally get it?

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jacog writes:
on Sep 20 2007 03:59 AM

I showed my wife this discussion and she made an inteersting observation that got me thinking... aknddon3 is actually Ali G, and he's just messing with us.

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SnorkleCat writes:
on Sep 20 2007 04:27 AM

It wouldn't be so bad if this dude didn't keep insulting everyone. I mean, it's fine to be ignorant- we all started out that way- but to call everyone else "moron" and "retarded" and say meaningless stuff like "Use common sense...I am right and you are wrong" like it's some psychotic mantra is just plain baffling.

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zbbrox writes:
on Sep 20 2007 05:36 AM

We cited nothing? I quoted to you straight form the dictionary! Again, why do you feel you're qualified to disagree with the definition of mutation found in the dictionary?

And you are mistaken in what you believe a "trait" is. If you have blond hair because your brown-haired parents have recessive blond-hair genes, you do not have a "trait" they do not in the genetic sense. Your genetic traits simply express themselves differently than your parents'. But a *mutation* is when there is a flaw in your genetic code, causing it to be different than either of your parents'--when you lose a nucleotide pair, or when two chromosomes fuse, or you get a duplicate copy of a chromosome, for instance.

Again, please, just read a little bit about genetic mutation. You will very quickly discover we are right.

Also, have you finally given up on the radioactive spider thing? Or did you have an answer to my question from before?

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rle4lunch writes:
on Sep 20 2007 10:42 AM

To all that are arguing on this thread. Thank you. Sincerly. You all helped me enjoy my lunch hour here at work. I haven't laughed this hard over such a meaningless subject in a long time.

Keep it going, it'll give me something to read tomorrow! :)

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aknddon3 writes:
on Sep 20 2007 12:50 PM

I love it, you guys are walking jokes. Science 101 PEOPLE WITH GENETIC MISTAKES OR DISEASES ARE NOT MUTANTS. Common sense. God Mendel is rolling in his grave with you idiots grave misconceptions about genetics and TRAITS. Sickle Cell is not a mutation it is a disease or a TRAIT. Mutations are when traits are expressed when they have no know connection the gene line or species line.

No Zbbrox you guys are not right, science and common sense prove you wrong.

Given up? WHat i am right and waiting for you guys to try to prove me wrong.

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jacog writes:
on Sep 20 2007 12:50 PM

Glad we could entertain, but really it's all thanks to the star of the show, aknddon3. His name is Andrew, and I'm sure he's just miffed because Arizona State can't play football. He drinks there.

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SnorkleCat writes:
on Sep 20 2007 01:37 PM

Aknddon3....Are you for real? Tell me. I have to know. Seriously, my anthropology training is kicking in here. I have to know where you come from, who raised you, and how you turned out this way. You're a fascinating social anomaly. I've never encountered such brash, proud ignorance; you wear it like a badge, wave it like a flag.

For the last time, sickle cell is the result of a genetic mutation. The body's instructions on how to make hemoglobin get slightly skewed due to this mutation in the genetic code, hence some of these cells are formed "sickle" shaped. People with this mutation have the sickle cell trait. Some people have sickle cell anemia, because they have MORE than one recessive sickle trait. Get it? People with ONE TRAIT do not have a DISEASE. They just have one sickle trait that does nothing to them except render them immune to malaria. Please tell me you can understand this.

Mutation isn't a big, scary, weird sci-fi term. It's just what happens to DNA over time, and a natural part of adaptation and evolutionary change. No big deal. And Mendel has has nothing to do with this discussion. You are still stuck on the "recessive" vs "dominant" thing, which was Mendel's big contribution to plant knowledge. This is not what we're talking about. Besides, Gregor Mendel lived centuries ago and hadn't the faintest clue what DNA was.

Obviously, mutants such as those in X-Men don't exist. I'm not even talking comic books anymore. I'm just desperately hoping your grasp of basic biology is better than this.
You seem to have no grasp of the terms "disease" "trait" "gene" "recessive" or "mutation."

I suppose I should just be glad you've left off talking about that stupid radioactive spider example.

And don't worry, I don't actually believe the previous poster at all; you can't POSSIBLY be studying at any university- not even ASU would have you.

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zbbrox writes:
on Sep 20 2007 01:46 PM

aknddon3--
You said it yourself: mutation is when genes are express when they have no known connection to the parent organisms. That is a genetic defect: when there is a mistake in the replication of parent DNA and that mistake creates a new trait, such as a DISORDER such as sickle cell anemia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9054492/mutation
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefEdList.aspx?refid=210007258

You are disagreeing with every source and genetic scientist on the planet.

Cite science, or *any* credible source, saying that mutation doesn't occur naturally. Tell me how friggin' evolution happens without mutation. And citing "common sense" doesn't prove anything. "Common sense" is what people ite when facts fail them.

And if you haven't given up on the radioactive spider thing, then answer my question: If the bite of a radioactive spider is *necessarily* fatal, then why don't household spiders, which are regularly bombarded with radiation from televisions, microwaves, cell phones and, actually, anything with an electrical field, cause havoc wherever they go? They bite people all the time, and it doesn't do more than itch.

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tabascoman77 writes:
on Sep 20 2007 02:23 PM

He goes to Arizona State? Wow...prestigious school like that...my cousin went there and he told me what a good school it is.

Ignorance doesn't even began to cover it. He's an ignorant contrarian. He will purposely say the complete opposite of EVERYTHING just to spite you and people like him don't care about facts even when they're in front of his face.

Akn, use "common sense" and start READING the citations we post. If you don't, you just look dumber than you already look.

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Loserman writes:
on Sep 20 2007 05:06 PM

He can't. He's too busy licking his balls. Now THAT'S a mutation!

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tabascoman77 writes:
on Sep 20 2007 08:32 PM

I wonder if they teach ball licking at ASU.

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Loserman writes:
on Sep 20 2007 08:59 PM

I've heard that they do in their P.E. department, including an intramural sport league, singles or doubles.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Sep 20 2007 10:17 PM

Spiders in the home are not radioactive, again you wrong.

Plus science does back me up, evolution is a mutation, you are right there but since we have not evolved in such a long time to say that mutation still exists is wrong, natural mutation does not exist, sickle cell is a result of nonnatural orgins and it is a disease, not a mutation, see look up the words, THEY MEAN TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. MORONS.

It is okay you have a guy from South Africa who thinks that blacks are inferior humans and then you have a couple of little kids who think they are smart yet are proven wrong over and over again.

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