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In Theaters » Iron Man 3 » Movie Forum

Iron Man 3

Iron Man 3

78%

PG-13, 2 hr. 15 min.
Action & Adventure, Science Fiction & Fantasy
Directed By:
Shane Black

In Theaters:
May 3, 2013 Wide
Walt Disney Pictures

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14 Your Top 3 Highest grossing films this year 16 Post Credit Scene 6 Killian a rip-off of Syndrome from the Incredibles? 10 Matthew Preston's true identity 10 The Villian's Master Plan 303 The Mandarin is the worst plot twist in cinematic history. 61 List all the stupid things about the movie. 1 Avengers 2 12 hehe, a butt-hurt powered energy source 75 I hear Ben Kingsley outshines Heath Ledger's Joker in this... 18 Man of Steel will destroy this film (Box Office and Critical) 16 The Indisputable reason Iron Man 3 was a poor film 115 Alright people, calm yourselves. It WAS good! 3 What did you Like & Dislike about Iron Man 3? 21 Spoiler Alert? - The 3 Plot HolesThat Irked Me. 16 Let us talk $$$ 8 Told you so. 1 Did Shane Black rip the villain's goal off from G.I.JOE Rise of the Cobra? 25 BEST VILLIAN 9 Why don't the villians aim at Tony Stark's heart thingy? 23 Thoughts on the Mandarin twist? *SPOILERS* 25 Let's be honest, the Mandarin isn't that iconic of a villain 4 Any Easter Eggs? 21 Can Superman and Thor save us! 5 Was this movie supposed to be released during Christmas? 0 People Need to read this Spoilers in the link 0 People Need to read this Spoilers in the link 0 People Need to read this Spoilers in the link 0 People Need to read this Spoilers in the link 0 Iron Man has to be gay 0 Did the oil rigger dude die?

List all the stupid things about the movie.

I'll start.

1. Mandarin twist, he's just a decoy. Guess what? Now that he's just a decoy, you'll never be able to have the real Mandarin in an Iron Man or Avengers movie. Killian rages, "I AM THE MANDARIN!". Good job, you've totally prevented an actual comic book villain from ever becoming an actual villain.
2. Bad guys = bad aim. Who trains these guys, really?
3. Opportunity to kill the heroes. Heroes get captured, especially Tony Stark, but all you do is zip tie him? Good God. Even Dr. Evil at least had frickin' sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their frickin' heads.
4. "House Party" Protocol. Yeah, let's save that for last when you could have used it earlier when it could have saved a lot of headache.
5. "Clean Slate" Protocol. Um... good thing all the bad guys were dead and gone, because if you blew up all your Iron Men suits just for a fireworks show and some of the bad guys actually survived, gg no re.
6. The entire "end plan" was to get the Vice President to become the President after killing the President. Why the Mandarin decoy and all that jazz about making a show of it? Just kill the President and have the Vice President become the President already who you have in your pocket to control. Jesus Christ. You're that intelligent to come up with a Think Tank, and that's all you come up with?
7. Tony Stark's mansion just got blown up, and a vital member of the Avenger's team is presumed dead. Nice to know members of his team, or even Nick Fury don't show up to check it out. Imagine, a villain going to kill the members of the Avengers one by one, you'd think someone might want to look into it.

El_ Capitan

05-4-2013 08:08 PM

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there is one certain thing i would like to point out-

when tony self destructed all suits, shouldnt the entire place pepper and tony were standing on fall down? because the hulkbuster or igor was holding the entire place if you remember

May 9 - 03:48 AM

Brendan Sullivan

The twist, the twist, the twist, the twist, the twist...also the extreme humor in this movie

May 8 - 06:50 PM

Landon McCullough

Why won't people understand that this is an IRON MAN movie. Avengers aren't supposed to show up to help. That would make it "Iron Man and 'Insert Avenger Here'. People came to see Iron Man and you're disappointed that Captain America or one of the others wasn't in it?

May 8 - 01:00 PM

Yeah, because S.H.I.E.L.D members were in, and took tabs on every Avengers member in their own movie, not to mention Nick Fury, Black Widow, and Phil Coulson in Iron Man and Iron Man 2.

May 8 - 01:53 PM

most of these are not even your own opinion. just a stupid sheep following the herd

May 7 - 01:18 PM

These are my opinion, look at the date of my post, look at other topics, and most of these are not even mentioned except for the "twist", but none covers that the Mandarin will never appear in a comic book movie at least in this "universe timeline" without trying to cover the plot holes.

Go sell crazy someplace else.

May 8 - 05:42 AM

Originality is all but impossible. Someone somewhere will feel the same way as you on any particular topic. Example: you're not the only one who's said "you're just following the herd" jargon.

May 8 - 12:25 PM

One of the most powerful thing Killian had, was being able to take control over all the airwaves, satellites, and cables to broadcast whatever he wanted, when he wanted. How, exactly? You could do so many things with that power, and what you end up with is a Mandarin decoy? Why ask for funding from military contracts or Pepper Pots? That right there makes you the richest and most powerful man in the world even if you didn't have super powers.

May 6 - 11:40 PM

The MK42 suit runs out of power, but there's nothing wrong with Tony's Arc Reactor. He leaves his suit to "charge" back up while he goes investigating. Not sure how he charged it up, but if the Arc Reactor is what powers the suits, seems kind of stupid to have them charging up with something less powerful... and that the suit needs to be recharged and not be powered by his Arc Reactor.

May 6 - 11:10 PM

I think you're putting too much thought into a movie. It seems people no longer watch movies for enjoyment, but to find all the things wrong with it.

May 6 - 11:13 PM

It's hard to enjoy a movie when you can't put any thought into it. I don't mind that you'll watch a stupid movie for enjoyment (there's plenty of good stupid movies), but the thread here is that there's a stupid things in the movie, and it was trying really hard not to be stupid.

May 6 - 11:21 PM

I have to say that even some of the best films will unravel when you really think about them.

The only thing that rubbed me the wrong way was the shrapnel being removed at the end. But otherwise, nothing really bothered me.

By the way, didn't mean come off as argumentative.

May 6 - 11:28 PM

I don't want to watch a movie in which the writers & director intended for me to sit there like a sack of potatoes & NOT think the whole time. Lemme guess, you thought 2001: A space odyssey was just neat. "Too much thought into a movie." That's right folks, lets just get rid of all art in the world cuz thinkin' hurts brains. I hate people who prefer life to involve LESS thinking.

May 7 - 10:31 AM

Where did I say thinking hurts brains? What an asinine post. And I hate people who make assumptions about others when they have no basis to. Cunt.

May 7 - 11:01 AM

I didn't say you said that exactly. Notice I didn't put quotation marks on that part. Do you know how quotes work? See, what I did there is quote something you said, then go off about my opinion on it & how I feel about it. No assumptions about it. It's an opinion. Cunt.

May 7 - 11:10 AM

The reason I made that first post was because, quite frankly, I'm tired of going to a movie forum and seeing numerous "plot hole" threads. People need to get over themselves that movies aren't perfect. There are going to be lapses in logic and other errors. I'm not sure you're aware, but nearly every movie has these problems. Even films considered "classics".

May 7 - 11:14 AM

By the way, I apologize for calling you a cunt. I've been in a rotten mood this morning. I'm all up for debate, and I usually refrain from name-calling.

May 7 - 11:29 AM

Certain holes in movies are acceptable. Like the ones that are done just to get from point A to B (I literally mean transit, not plot point A to B). Or eating & pooping. Everybody needs to do both, but nobody cares if you leave that out. The holes in this movie were far too frequent & left me bored & feeling like I wasted my money. To me, that's not acceptable to be considered an enjoyable movie. I feel no need to like something based on anything other than my own standards. Society & their broad-sweeping acceptance of mediocrity & banality does not sway my opinion in the slightest bit.

May 7 - 11:43 AM

Well, I guess I accept mediocrity and banality, because I enjoyed this film quite a bit. Maybe in repeat viewings these things might begin to bother me, but I was too busy laughing and having a good time to really notice some of the issues that yourself and others pointed out.

I don't disagree with you. These things you've brought up make sense. I guess I just have an ability to switch off and enjoy good humor and fun action, and not notice these holes. I didn't go to Iron Man for high art.

May 7 - 01:29 PM

I don't think anyone went to see Iron Man 3 expecting high art. That's what people seem to think when people complain about the stupidity of this movie.

What people expected, was a comic book level storyline, in a comic book superhero movie. If you don't read any comic books, I suggest you do. Every introduction of a villain, has some reason or cause, which is found in continued episodes. They are usually well thought out, and there aren't very many plot holes, and themes are very consistent.

Think about Killian as a villain. He becomes wealthy and powerful, but wants revenge because he got stood up by a billionaire on New Years 2000. Wow, that's such a powerful incentive to wreak vengeance upon the world.

Please...

May 7 - 01:59 PM

I never read the comics. Maybe I'll start to.

May 7 - 02:30 PM

1. Mandarin is a drug addicted alcholic who likes have threesomes.
2. Tony Stark removes the dangerous metal shrapnel just like that?
3. Nobody seemed to really care that Tony Stark's mansion was bombed and he was assumed dead.
4. What was Killian's motivation? Was he just mad that Tony Stark turned him down in favor of a hot brunnet? Did he just have a crush on Pepper? He could have just killed Tony Stark when he captured him, why didn't he?
5. TREVOR?!?!

May 6 - 07:48 PM

He didn't kill Stark because he needed him to work on the bio serum after he killed the cute brunette who was in Vicky Christina Barcelona.

May 6 - 11:00 PM

LOL! Enjoyed your reply.

May 7 - 10:28 AM

1. Antagonist's plot is either ridiculously precognitive & Aldrich just knew literally everything that would happen, OR it was just stupid contradiction.
I'll demonstrate what I mean as Aldrich Killian: Here is my plan...
First, what's my goal? Make Extremis the perfection I dreamt it to be. How do I get there? Well, Tony Stark figured out how to perfect it one night when he was drunk. So I'll need him. Side mission: get Pepper Potts all to myself.
Ok, so Step 1: Kill Tony Stark & Pepper Potts in his house. Tell helicopter d00dz to be sure & stick around to make sure he's dead.
Step 2: Kill myself because I apparently am actually "Opposite-Man" & that's the only logical end to Opposite-Man.
Step 3: I'm dead now.
END.
C'mon folks. This was just plain stupid & a waste of time & money.

May 6 - 09:45 AM

8. So if Aldrich Killian and his group can regenerate limbs and such, why does that make them heat up at will? How do those two things connect at all?

May 6 - 09:07 AM

the heating was the side effect she couldn't control. Sometimes it was in control, sometimes not.

May 6 - 11:01 PM

1. Stop crying people, please.
2. See every movie ever made.
3. See every movie ever made.
4. Jarvis was off-line.
5. If you really wanna get technical, how do you know that Stark didnt know all the bad guys were dead? Plus, Iron Patriot was just a phone call away.
6. Again, your getting real technical, but it would make sense for it to be made a show of, that way the American people would have a reason to Rally behind the Vice President. "Oh, the president just died randomly. We found his body in a cave with a bullet lodged in his head. I'm your new president!" hmm... Sounds sketchy right?
7. They are the Avengers. Im sure they have a way to keep tabs on Tony.

You skipped over a few that i had.
1. Was there ever a mention of the kids mother? He has a sister who we never saw, and I think he said something about his mom but I cant remember. That was confusing.
2. For some reason, when everyone one else puts on the Iron man or war machine suit, they just know how to use it. Everyone, except the president? He just hung there like a dead fish.
3. I always wondered why it hasn't happened yet, and ow that it did, i don't think I like it much. But does Tony ever get his Chest piece taken out in the comics?
4. The scene when Killian killed Maya Hansen. It sounded like she was saying something to the effect that, if she died, they all would die, or overheat, or something. Then, Blam, She is dead. I know she was an intricate piece to the Extremis storyline, but she really had very little purpose in the film.

May 6 - 09:01 AM

in regards to your number 2 - Though they didn't do a great job sticking to this point. Those suits are suppose to not be able to be used by other people. I assume that Killian was able to fly Iron Patriot because he helped with the upgrades. As for when pepper was able to use part of the suit to blow up killian, i am still unsure.

May 6 - 11:35 AM

In Iron Man 2 when Rhodey put on the war machine suit, i was able to use it perfectly. I GUESS we can just assume Tony taught him to use it, even though Rhody said, "the less i know the better!" in the first one.
But that wasn't Killian in the suit. Taht was the bald dude with extremis. So, i mean, i GUESS you can say Killian taught him to use it too? I don't know. Seems slippery.

May 6 - 01:30 PM

4. Again, Jarvis was only offline when he was in Tennessee, when his MK42 ran out of power. How does a suit that is supposed to run off his Arc Reactor run out of power, especially when nothing is wrong with his Arc Reactor?

5. What's Tony going to call Iron Patriot with, a cell phone that survived through all that fighting? Oh wait, he'd just call Iron Patriot with one of his suits. Oh wait...

6. Killian could control all the airwaves, satellites, and cables in the world. I'd say think about it some more, but something inside your head might snap.

May 6 - 11:17 PM

4. So, was MK42 running off tonys arc reactor when pepper was wearing it? Think about that again. It was a prototype, ran off another power source.

5. So, your saying that through all of that fighting a cell phone couldn't have survived. Is that REALLY what your basing this point off? Come on bro.

6. Ok, i really hate to questions ones knowledge. But it sounds to me that you are assuming that, if his plan worked, Killian would control EVERYTHING over the world because he owned the president? Not only does the president not currently control all of that in the USA. But you say he would control all of them ALL OVER THE WORLD? Oh... Ok.

May 8 - 02:46 PM

Lol, your anger and lack of reason and imagination amuses me.

May 8 - 03:07 PM

I had to confirm this with my wife. Was Killian in the Iron Patriot suit when he attacked Air Force One? If the answer is YES, then how did the BALD HENCHMAN get there in the first place?

May 6 - 08:19 AM

No, the bald henchman was in the Iron Patriot, not Killian. The bald henchman put the President in the Iron Patriot to deliver him to Killian.

May 6 - 11:35 PM

Christian Kneier

1. enough,we get it already!

2. the galatic empire

4.he coudent summon them because they where buried and jarvis was offline...pay some attention when you watch a movie...

5.he did it to show pepper that they wont stand between them anymore,again,pay attention

7. the only point i agree with

May 6 - 06:15 AM

me too

May 6 - 07:11 AM

You should pay some attention yourself.

1. Jarvis was only offline when he reached Tennessee and the Prototype suit ran out of power, which is interesting, since the arc reactor is what powers his suits, and there wasn't any problem with his arc reactor.

2. Yeah, I understand he did it for Pepper, it's still a stupid thing to do.

May 6 - 11:05 PM

??????? ????????

SERIOUSLY!? You took the machine out of Tony's CHEST!!! WHO DOES THAT!??
Oh yeah, lets turn Peper into a super hero, destroy all the suits, take the thing out of his chest, screw the legend of Ironman. Well guess what, THE SUIT DOES MAKE THE HERO. I was glad for a moment when they tried to kill Peper, i thought the movie was going to have a serious ending... crap. I totally expected it. No surprise whatsoever. Ironman 1 was a jewel, 2 was not bad... but 3... how stupid do you think we are exactly? Pepper- oni with extra Cheese please!!!

May 6 - 05:34 AM

Let's set one thing straight: THIS IS NOT THE COMIC BOOK IRON MAN. This is a completely new universe. Just because it happened one way in the comics does not mean it will happen the same way here.

May 8 - 11:18 PM

there is one certain thing i would like to point out-

when tony self destructed all suits, shouldnt the entire place pepper and tony were standing on fall down? because the hulkbuster or igor was holding the entire place if you remember

May 6 - 02:08 AM

Good one. They also didn't show him exploding.

May 6 - 11:50 PM

thanks

May 9 - 03:47 AM

agree with 7

May 6 - 02:05 AM

10. If it was possible to remove the shrapnel from his chest, why didn't he have his arc reactor removed earlier?

Haha. Yeah. Liked the movie though :)

May 5 - 04:46 AM

He needed Extremis technology to make it possible. Listen to the voice-over at the end :)

May 5 - 05:29 AM

Did he say anything about that? I really don't remember. O_o Can you put the exact quote here? Please :D Thanks!

May 6 - 06:28 PM

That's one thing I don't remember, either, and I have a pretty good memory. Seemed like just good ol' fashioned surgery to me, especially with the surgeons playing "Operation" to take the shrapnel out. If he used Extremis technology, he would have to undergo the transformation process (which is unpredictable), then undergo the re-transformation process (which is stable).

That brings me to another stupid thing. If it's that simple for him to figure out how to reverse the Extremis transformation, why not just perfect it without the explosions and super strength and just for the temporary healing - then turn the auto-healing part off?

Seems like that would benefit all of humanity...

May 6 - 11:54 PM

Let's go with the fact that the reactor is partially what made him what he is today, and serves as a reminder of what he thinks he should be doing. Maybe he needed the reactor on a psychological level, and he's now reached the point where he realizes he doesn't need the mental crutch anymore.

May 8 - 11:12 PM

9. Too many lame one liner jokes

May 4 - 08:49 PM

That is just RDJ's take on Tony's character. If you don't know that after 4 movies, you mustn't have been concentrating very hard on watching the films.

May 7 - 06:59 AM

8. Who puts the President into an Iron Patriot suit?

A. The President doesn't even try to use it?
B. Why even put him in the suit?
C. How did they even control the suit to have the President delivered to Killian from Air Force One? It's nice to know Iron Man and Iron Patriot suits don't have a kill-safe from being used by potential bad guys.

May 4 - 08:44 PM

I think the answer to this is that War Machine was upgraded to the Iron Patriot by Killian's group A.I.M.. Tony HACKS into A.I.M. THROUGH the Iron Patriot suit to get information about Extremis. So A.I.M. could have complete control of Iron Patriot.

May 6 - 08:25 AM

If A.I.M had complete control of the Iron Patriot, then why did they have to force Rhodes out of the suit?

May 6 - 10:57 PM

Maybe only the person inside it can open it....

May 8 - 11:15 PM

Remember the bald guy who works for Killian? That guy followed him to see Pepper, many many people were there and saw him with Killian. And later he showed his power, publicly to people on the street! What the fuck is this? I remember the explosion of that minion is an accident, even if it wasn't, people were already running away when the bald guy started to use his power, there surely would be some survivors to tell the security the tale. Not to say later that bald guy showed up again, using his power to melt the water tank and tried to kill Tony publicly, also many people saw it. Once this was known by the US government or Tony, he would easily be able to identified and his boss would be revealed for sure. Killian even told Pepper about Extremis, he could not get away. That's just super stupid!

May 4 - 08:42 PM

Lol, yeah. They were there to, what? Take the confidential files from the mother of a former Extremis member... but then they use their powers to reveal themselves to the public instad. Bad guys have no brain... or the Director or screenwriters don't have one.

There was a lot of "The Incredibles" and "Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery" bad guy idiocy in the movie. Such as monologuing, and not immediately killing the heroes when you have the chance.

May 4 - 08:51 PM

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