Critics Consensus: Kick-Ass 2 Misses the Target; Lee Daniels' The Butler is Moving and Well-Acted

Plus, Paranoia is a misfire, and Jobs fails to get inside its subject's head.

This week at the movies, we've got teenage superheroes (Kick-Ass 2, starring Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Chloe Grace Moretz); a White House domestic worker (Lee Daniels' The Butler, starring Forest Whitaker and Oprah Winfrey); corporate killers (Paranoia, starring Liam Hemsworth and Gary Oldman); and a tech titan (Jobs, starring Ashton Kutcher and Dermot Mulroney). What do the critics have to say?

Kick-Ass 2

29%

The first Kick-Ass was a canny mix of ultra-violence and dark humor that busted through taboos and earned an appreciative cult audience. But sequels are known for taking what once seemed fresh and making it stale, and critics say that while Kick-Ass 2 maintains the energy and bad taste of the original, it's largely bereft of any saving wit or satirical ambitions. This time out, Kick-Ass (Aaron Taylor-Johnson) is being targeted by his old frenemy Red Mist (Christopher Mintz-Plasse), while Hit Girl (Chloe Grace Moretz) discovers that her high school classmates can be as ruthless as any supervillain. The pundits say the cast (particularly Moretz) is fine, but the trouble is that the film's once- transgressive sense of humor now comes across as merely sadistic and unsavory. (Check out this week's Total Recall, in which we count down co-star Jim Carrey's best-reviewed movies, and check out our gallery of cinematic vigilantes.)

Lee Daniels' The Butler

73%

Bringing history to life on screen is no small task, but it's made considerably easier if you have a great cast at your disposal. Critics say Lee Daniels' The Butler benefits from outstanding performances that lend gravitas to an earnest, ambitious look at a few decades' worth of African American history. The film chronicles America's social changes and political upheaval from the mid-1950s to the 1980s through the eyes of Cecil Gaines (Forest Whitaker), a butler whose employment in the White House spans eight presidential administrations. The pundits say Lee Daniels' The Butler has moments of contrivance, but overall it's a thoughtful and deeply affecting look at our tumultuous recent past.

Paranoia

5%

It's got a cast of hot newcomers (Liam Hemsworth, Amber Heard) and reliable old pros (Harrison Ford, Gary Oldman) as well as a timely theme (corporate chicanery); unfortunately, what Paranoia lacks, say critics, is a believable script and a sense of tension. Liam Hemsworth stars as an ambitious tech firm employee who finds himself in a deadly world of intrigue after his boss (Oldman) tasks him with stealing a competitor's cell phone prototype. The pundits say Paranoia mostly goes through the motions, failing to generate much interest in its predictable plotting and unsurprising twists. (Watch our video interviews with the stars of Paranoia here.)

Jobs

27%

Apple co-founder and CEO Steve Jobs was many things to many people; those who knew him described him as an innovator, a perfectionist, a wellspring of charisma, and a petty tyrant. Unfortunately, critics say Jobs spends too much time on the events in its subject's life and not enough on the man in all his complexities. The movie follows Jobs (Ashton Kutcher) from the early days of Apple to the triumph of the iPod; the pundits say the script is mostly surface-level, following the biopic formula without bringing its fascinating central character to life.

Also opening this week in limited release:

  • Cutie And The Boxer, a documentary about the complex marriage of two accomplished Japanese painters, is at 96 percent.
  • This Is Martin Bonner, a drama about a recently-divorced man who gets a job helping parolees readjust to society, is at 91 percent.
  • Ain't Them Bodies Saints, starring Rooney Mara and Casey Affleck in a drama about an imprisoned bank robber and the woman and child he left behind, is at 76 percent.
  • The Patience Stone, a drama about a woman in an unnamed Middle Eastern country who shares a lifetime of pent-up frustrations with her badly injured husband, is at 71 percent.
  • Austenland, starring Keri Russell and Bret McKenzie in a comedy about an obsessive Pride and Prejudice fan who finds romance at a Jane Austen-themed resort, is at 39 percent.

Comments

Valmordas

Val Mordas

I had the feeling watching the trailer that Kick Ass 2 wouldn't be so hot. Sadly it seems I was right.

Aug 15 - 04:45 PM

Alejandro Gonzaga

Alejandro Gonzaga

i had that feeling when they announced Vaughn wouldnt be directing

Aug 16 - 07:43 AM

Janet M.

Janet Maximus

I work at Home with Google. It's by-far the nicest job I have had. I've made $64,000 so far this year working online and I'm a full time student. I've made such great money. It's really user friendly and I'm just so happy that I found out about it. Here is what I do, Bling6.com

Aug 24 - 02:34 PM

Guy Thomas

Guy Thomas

I saw Kick Ass 2 last night and I thought it was great.

Aug 16 - 04:21 PM

Nathan McLeod

Nathan McLeod

It was awesome. Everything that you liked in the first was in the second, if not more, and Im very objective when it comes to sequels

Aug 17 - 12:49 PM

Matt Keto

Matt Keto

The critics are DEAD wrong on this one. One of the most fun I've had at a movie EVER. Tons of great character moments, emotional resonance, and is genuinely hilarious, but also heartfelt and serious at times.

Aug 18 - 02:09 PM

Prince Niko

Prince Niko

The Butler will be #1 this weekend. Looking forward to seeing it. Could care less about all the other crap.

Aug 15 - 05:00 PM

Ash J. Gilmore

Ash J. Gilmore

There's no way it's #1. Kick-Ass 2 has built up a very large fanbase and is going to rule the Box Office this weekend.

Aug 15 - 05:37 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

Meh, it will be close. Kick-Ass hasn't built that big of a fanbase. It really only appeals to a small group of people. I mean, it's a devoted fanbase, but not big enough to dominate the box-office

Aug 15 - 09:43 PM

King  S.

King Simba

Hasn't Pacific Rim taught us that just because something is anticipated on the internet doesn't mean it's anticipated by general audience? Despite all the hype around it, the original was only a modest hit. The target audience is going to be very limited for the sequel, whereas The Butler seems like the sort of crowd pleaser that could be a late summer hit.

Aug 16 - 12:20 AM

Andrew Targaryen

Andrew *

Gotta go with this.

Aug 16 - 03:57 PM

Ash J. Gilmore

Ash J. Gilmore

Very good point.

Aug 18 - 05:09 AM

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I learn't that lesson with Snakes on a Plane.

Aug 18 - 02:46 PM

Dave J

Dave J

If the Kick Ass fan base consists of a bunch of underage kids and if it has that R rating then it's going to be pretty hard for them to get into theatre since that wouldn't be the type of movie the parents would want to take their kids too! But again, anything is possible!

Aug 16 - 01:13 PM

Wiseguy70005

First Last

You mean "couldn't" care less.

Aug 16 - 10:43 AM

Iger Ostreni

Iger Ostreni

Thank you so much for that. You have no idea how much it pissed me off to hear people say the exact opposite of what they're trying to convey

Aug 18 - 04:11 PM

King Crunk

King Crunk

Was hoping Kick Ass 2 would score higher. Still going to see it with my buddies this weekend, hope it is at least entertaining on some level.

Whoever thought Kutcher playing Jobs was a good idea was nuts. Look at the guy's resume, he peaked with That '70s Show.

Aug 15 - 05:03 PM

Spencer Clarke

Spencer Clarke

I just got back from it. I don't think it deserves the 27% it has at all. I wouldn't say it's as good as the first but it definitely isn't bad.

Aug 15 - 09:13 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

HA! I thought you were talking about Jobs. Wracking my brain thinking "was there a prequel movie to this Jobs movie?? Was it on Life Time? Was it a documentary maybe???" Ha ha...Man oh man.

Yeah i've heard pretty good things about Kick Ass 2 from people who liked the first one.

Aug 16 - 02:06 PM

Ash J. Gilmore

Ash J. Gilmore

There's no way it's #1. Kick-Ass 2 has built up a very large fanbase and is going to rule the Box Office this weekend.

Aug 15 - 05:37 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

Meh, it will be close. Kick-Ass hasn't built that big of a fanbase. It really only appeals to a small group of people. I mean, it's a devoted fanbase, but not big enough to dominate the box-office

Aug 15 - 09:43 PM

King  S.

King Simba

Hasn't Pacific Rim taught us that just because something is anticipated on the internet doesn't mean it's anticipated by general audience? Despite all the hype around it, the original was only a modest hit. The target audience is going to be very limited for the sequel, whereas The Butler seems like the sort of crowd pleaser that could be a late summer hit.

Aug 16 - 12:20 AM

Andrew Targaryen

Andrew *

Gotta go with this.

Aug 16 - 03:57 PM

Ash J. Gilmore

Ash J. Gilmore

Very good point.

Aug 18 - 05:09 AM

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I learn't that lesson with Snakes on a Plane.

Aug 18 - 02:46 PM

Dave J

Dave J

If the Kick Ass fan base consists of a bunch of underage kids and if it has that R rating then it's going to be pretty hard for them to get into theatre since that wouldn't be the type of movie the parents would want to take their kids too! But again, anything is possible!

Aug 16 - 01:13 PM

Ash J. Gilmore

Ash J. Gilmore

Still seeing Kick-Ass 2 tomorrow. The reasons the critics gave for it being bad were bullshit.

Aug 15 - 05:38 PM

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Blondie

No Name

Get out. All the fucking critics did was compare it to the original and degrade it because it wasn't as good. Their reasons are bullshit. And I'd see being a fanboy better than being an asshole, asshole.

Aug 16 - 07:30 AM

Andrew StClair

Andrew StClair

I've never seen the first one. I have seen the second one... it fucking sucked.

Aug 16 - 12:10 PM

Ash J. Gilmore

Ash J. Gilmore

Suck a fuck, Rohit.

Aug 16 - 07:35 AM

Andrew Targaryen

Andrew *

Somebody's panties are in a twist...

Aug 16 - 03:57 PM

Jaime Lannister

Jaime Lannister

Donnie Darko reference?

Aug 16 - 05:05 PM

Spencer S.

Spencer Saunders

This fanboy rage is out of control

Aug 16 - 07:19 PM

Blondie

No Name

He likes a movie. You call him a fanboy. You guys are retarded.

Aug 17 - 09:53 AM

Ash J. Gilmore

Ash J. Gilmore

My panties are in a twist because I got pissed at some cheapshit loser who for some reason has a hard-on for insulting me? Sure. Also, I'm not a fanboy, I just think that it was far better than the RT score makes it out to be.

Aug 18 - 05:08 AM

Blondie

No Name

Well fuckin' said, Gilmore.

Aug 18 - 08:53 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"Ain't Them Bodies Saints" is the only really exciting film worth checking out this week, although "Patience Stone" could have potential.

Good drinking game. Look up all of the writers and directors of the wide releases, and take a shot whenever you see a green splotch next to their work. Funny how some people stay employed in that town.

So Lee Daniels has the balls to start putting his name in the title of his films now? This race-porn auteur has delivered another sappy ode to the nobility of servitude that black people should apparently be grateful for. (This year's "The Help" in other words.) Meanwhile white people can pat themselves on the back for reminding themselves how much how charitable they are but without threatening the socio-economic balance. In short, it's the perfect Obama film. I'd like to see Sam Jackson slap all these fools in the face. At least his role in "Django" was intended to be duplicitous. I can't see Forrest Gump....I mean Whitaker... spending two hours complaining about nigs on the Civil Rights' nag. You should watch Spike Lee's "Malcolm X" instead, to see what an actual courageous black man of the time really looked like. (And at least Spike, despite his rep, never had the ego to stick his name in one of his film's titles.)

Aug 15 - 06:14 PM

Francesco F.

Francesco Fortuna

Actually he put his name in the title because there's already a movie called The Butler from Warner Bros. that was made in 1916. There was a huge battle between Warner Bros. and The Weinstein Co. Obviously The Weinstein Co. lost so he had to re-name it. I guess he put his name in the title as a bitch slap to Warner Bros.

Aug 15 - 06:32 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Do you understand copyright laws and public domain? NOTHING from 1916 remains under copyright. The oldest standing copy right is 1928's "Steamboat Willie", and Disney has notoriously stretched the law to retain it.

Aug 15 - 07:13 PM

zinc alloy

zinc alloy

Why does the Edger Rice Burroughs estake still have public domain over there properties that started around 1912?

Aug 17 - 04:52 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Because "public domain" means PUBLIC: as in, you can read Burroughs' books for free -

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tarzan_of_the_Apes

Aug 18 - 05:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Looked into it. WB has no standing. Weinstein didn't lose, he just didn't want to fight the case. Btw, there have been five previous movies named "Paranoia", and I haven't heard a peep about that. Also, Buster Keaton's "The General" is a classic, but John Boorman was still able to make his own "The General" without such copyright nonsense. This whole issue is stupid.

Aug 15 - 07:27 PM

Francesco F.

Francesco Fortuna

Didn't mean to piss you off o_0. I was just putting it out there, and yes I agree too that this whole issue is stupid.

Aug 15 - 07:31 PM

Infernal D.

Infernal Dude 2.0

Don't worry. This is how he talks to everyone.

Aug 16 - 12:05 AM

closedmouth

Anna Belle

It's not a matter of copyright, it's that the title for the 1916 film was registered with the MPAA and when The Weinstein Company tried to register the same title Warner Bros. were a bunch of dicks and demanded that the new film change its title. They claimed the Daniels film being called "The Butler" created confusion with the 1916 short film that nobody had ever heard of. It's pretty ridiculous.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-butler-forced-to-choose-a-new-title-due-to-ver,99747/
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-butler-is-now-lee-daniels-the-butler-based-on,100635/

Aug 16 - 07:54 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Movie titles are recycled all the time. WB didn't have a case, and btw, the MPAA didn't even exist in 1916 to register anything. It was founded in 1922.

Aug 16 - 11:22 AM

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I vaguely remember a thread in General Discussion about posters listing movies with similar titles. I used to think that if any studio was to raise a stink about titular copyright infringment, it would be Disney. Welcome to the dicklist, Warner.

Aug 18 - 03:24 PM

Prince Niko

Prince Niko

The op needs to do his research on the name change.

Aug 15 - 06:43 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"The room should feel empty when you're in it." Take a cue from your movie and STFU.

Aug 15 - 07:16 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

IF ONLY IT WS FUCKING PLAYING EVERYWHERE AND NOT JUST NY AND LA.

Aug 15 - 07:00 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

You mean "Saints"? I agree.

Aug 15 - 07:14 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

And then released on demand by the 23rd?? What the flying fuck. Theater, is the best place for those kinds of visuals.

Aug 15 - 11:17 PM

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Easiest way to take advantage of a singular advertising campaign.

Aug 18 - 03:21 PM

Zach Trotter

Zach Trotter

I seriously have this problem every single week. Very frustrating

Aug 15 - 08:22 PM

King  S.

King Simba

To quote Roger Ebert: "We don't always go to the movies for searing truth, but more often for reassurance"

I think most people are very well aware that films like Remember the Titans or The Help glossed over the rasicm that occurred in the eras they were set in. They depict what people like to believe could have happened, that racism could be solved simply by getting to know the other side a little better, rather than depicting what would actually happen in such cases.

I don't really think this film or The Help are trying to say blacks should be grateful for the servitude they did, but these films are intended to be crowd pleasers, something they couldn't be if they decided to be more realistic in their depiction of the era. People don't really go to movies for history lessons after all.

Aug 16 - 01:28 AM

John Q.

John Q

I think you nailed it. Bravo.

Aug 16 - 06:28 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Pissy excuses. Nevermind this is a film claiming to be based on a true story, and its historical significance is carried on its sleeve in its marketing. But when it comes to the nitty gritty, it cops out so white folks don't get their feelings hurt. Americans' lack of "history lessons" are precisely why they're in an academic tailspin currently. They have their collective head up their ass, and refuse to come to terms with their civic responsibilities. Could even a fictional film like "To Kill a Mockingbird" be made in this climate, much less be successful, when it refused to flinch at such brutal truths? Did that classic and long-beloved film not please crowds, even as it exposed our moral weaknesses? Stop being so petulant, and learn to deal with history, because if not, it will surely deal with you.

Aug 16 - 11:39 AM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I agree with Janson completely. 90% of the actors in 42 for example looked extremely uncomfortable acting like they didn't want Jackie to play baseball with the exception of the brilliant Alan Tudyk who honestly had to carry the entire films Racisim by himself. The Help was the most embarrassing infuriating piece of crap I've ever seen and Read.

anyways, before I keep ranting, I agree with Janson.

Aug 16 - 02:12 PM

King  S.

King Simba

I never put much stock into what Hollywood claims to be based on a true story. Supernatural horror movies claim to be "based on a true story."

I don't deny these films could have become classics if they decided to be realistic in their depiction of racism. Instead, they played it safe and aimed to be crowd pleasers, but while that may have prevented them from becoming timeless classics does that automatically make them terrible? Again, They aimed to be crowd pleasers and for the most part they succeeded.

And again, who uses movies as a basis for history? Everyone I spoke to who saw The Help was very well aware that it wasn't acurate in its depiction of the era. I highly doubt America's academic problems can be blamed on movies. Heck, in the midst of all these big budget spectacles I'd say it's pretty encouraging if teenagers even bother to check out films like 42, The Butler, The Help, etc. And if such films get them interested in reading up what actually happened during such times, then hey props to those films.

Aug 16 - 04:34 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Dude, you can't have it both ways. "The Butler" is heavily marketed on its (presumed) historical significance. The trailers talk about how it's "a nation's story" and plays up the star-studded presidents and Civil Rights tensions. To then turn around and say that it shouldn't be considered a "history lesson" is dishonest.

Just as dishonest as trying to compare it with "42", a quality film that doesn't pander to black peoples subordinate "place" in society. Also, "42" has not received criticism for any inaccuracies, and taking place in the pre-Civil Rights era makes Jackie Robinson, and those who enabled him, that much more heroic. The Butler's heroism is based on his ability to keep his mouth shut. So, other than skin color, there's not a lot of comparisons to made.

Aug 16 - 08:06 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I think you make some great points King Simba and I have liked a lot of films about that "are based on a true even" like Remember the Titans and The Great Debaters. The Help I thought was a garbage book and a garbage movie so that's that. THE GREAT WHITE HOPE is something I can never get behind. Is The Butler a Great White hope film? I doesn't seem to be. People often ask me, why isn't there an MLK movie Bradly and I answer back "Because there isn't a Great White Hope that inspired him to change the world". I like your faith that these films though can inspire kids and adults to actually look into the real history of things, I'm just to stubborn to admit that as a possibility my self.

The comparison I was trying to make Janson was that The Butler (Like 42 and a lot of other films based in that era) has incidents of Racial bigotry come across as mustache twirling saturday morning cartoon villains especially when compared to Harrison Fords extreme opposite. Now I have read from many points of view that Branch Rickey was a larger then life character who LOVED Baseball and honestly I though Harrison Ford and Chadwick Bosman were great.

Aug 16 - 09:21 PM

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I think they only serve as harsh reminders that minorities should never time travel in the past. Only manifest destiny and Jim Crow await. But then again, the future does pose the Robot-Ninja-Monkey-Zombie-Pirate-Fanboy-Juggalo Apocalypse. Decisions, decisions.

Aug 18 - 03:35 PM

Keith Allison

Keith Allison

I'm pretty sure Lee Daniels would have preferred that the name had just stayed "The Butler", given how much they were promoting it as such beforehand. This definitely was not an ego thing.

Aug 16 - 10:24 AM

Francesco F.

Francesco Fortuna

Actually he put his name in the title because there's already a movie called The Butler from Warner Bros. that was made in 1916. There was a huge battle between Warner Bros. and The Weinstein Co. Obviously The Weinstein Co. lost so he had to re-name it. I guess he put his name in the title as a bitch slap to Warner Bros.

Aug 15 - 06:32 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Do you understand copyright laws and public domain? NOTHING from 1916 remains under copyright. The oldest standing copy right is 1928's "Steamboat Willie", and Disney has notoriously stretched the law to retain it.

Aug 15 - 07:13 PM

zinc alloy

zinc alloy

Why does the Edger Rice Burroughs estake still have public domain over there properties that started around 1912?

Aug 17 - 04:52 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Because "public domain" means PUBLIC: as in, you can read Burroughs' books for free -

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tarzan_of_the_Apes

Aug 18 - 05:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Looked into it. WB has no standing. Weinstein didn't lose, he just didn't want to fight the case. Btw, there have been five previous movies named "Paranoia", and I haven't heard a peep about that. Also, Buster Keaton's "The General" is a classic, but John Boorman was still able to make his own "The General" without such copyright nonsense. This whole issue is stupid.

Aug 15 - 07:27 PM

Francesco F.

Francesco Fortuna

Didn't mean to piss you off o_0. I was just putting it out there, and yes I agree too that this whole issue is stupid.

Aug 15 - 07:31 PM

Infernal D.

Infernal Dude 2.0

Don't worry. This is how he talks to everyone.

Aug 16 - 12:05 AM

closedmouth

Anna Belle

It's not a matter of copyright, it's that the title for the 1916 film was registered with the MPAA and when The Weinstein Company tried to register the same title Warner Bros. were a bunch of dicks and demanded that the new film change its title. They claimed the Daniels film being called "The Butler" created confusion with the 1916 short film that nobody had ever heard of. It's pretty ridiculous.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-butler-forced-to-choose-a-new-title-due-to-ver,99747/
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-butler-is-now-lee-daniels-the-butler-based-on,100635/

Aug 16 - 07:54 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Movie titles are recycled all the time. WB didn't have a case, and btw, the MPAA didn't even exist in 1916 to register anything. It was founded in 1922.

Aug 16 - 11:22 AM

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I vaguely remember a thread in General Discussion about posters listing movies with similar titles. I used to think that if any studio was to raise a stink about titular copyright infringment, it would be Disney. Welcome to the dicklist, Warner.

Aug 18 - 03:24 PM

Daniel Irwin

Daniel Irwin

I hope "elysium" holds well, but I doubt it. Still looking forward to it. Anyway, "The World's End" and "You're Next" next weekend for me!!

Aug 15 - 06:33 PM

Vits

Vicente Torres

I can see why critics say KICK-ASS PART 2 lacks wit. The 1st one walked over a fine line between making fun of violence and applauding it. It seems that this new director couldn't handle it. I think I'll still give it a shot.

I guess we're gonna keep having "White men guilt" movies every year? Well, if THE BUTLER is like THE HELP or even THE BLIND SIDE, it will be O.K.

I'm always willing to give Ashton Kutcher a chance because I do think he's talented. A lot of critics are praising his performance, so maybe that will be worth watching JOBS?

Aug 15 - 06:37 PM

Prince Niko

Prince Niko

The op needs to do his research on the name change.

Aug 15 - 06:43 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"The room should feel empty when you're in it." Take a cue from your movie and STFU.

Aug 15 - 07:16 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

What a bunch of pussy critics.

Aug 15 - 06:59 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

IF ONLY IT WS FUCKING PLAYING EVERYWHERE AND NOT JUST NY AND LA.

Aug 15 - 07:00 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

You mean "Saints"? I agree.

Aug 15 - 07:14 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

And then released on demand by the 23rd?? What the flying fuck. Theater, is the best place for those kinds of visuals.

Aug 15 - 11:17 PM

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Easiest way to take advantage of a singular advertising campaign.

Aug 18 - 03:21 PM

Zach Trotter

Zach Trotter

I seriously have this problem every single week. Very frustrating

Aug 15 - 08:22 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

Have absolutely NO interest in Jobs, but Ashton Kutcher doesn't seem that bad in the trailers, the makeup is spot on.

Aug 15 - 07:01 PM

Andrew Targaryen

Andrew *

He's a dead ringer for Jobs physically, I want to see how well he handles Jobs' mannerisms.

Aug 16 - 03:58 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

You can see that in the trailer. Kutcher is essentially playing himself, or at least his vain version of Jobs.

Aug 16 - 08:08 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

I see, so it's really just the appearance, thought I'd hear that.

Aug 17 - 05:15 PM

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Lance, I'm surprised Sandler doesn't call Kutcher out as, "NOW THAT'S A BIG BITCH!".

Aug 18 - 03:47 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Do you understand copyright laws and public domain? NOTHING from 1916 remains under copyright. The oldest standing copy right is 1928's "Steamboat Willie", and Disney has notoriously stretched the law to retain it.

Aug 15 - 07:13 PM

zinc alloy

zinc alloy

Why does the Edger Rice Burroughs estake still have public domain over there properties that started around 1912?

Aug 17 - 04:52 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Because "public domain" means PUBLIC: as in, you can read Burroughs' books for free -

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tarzan_of_the_Apes

Aug 18 - 05:41 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

You mean "Saints"? I agree.

Aug 15 - 07:14 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

And then released on demand by the 23rd?? What the flying fuck. Theater, is the best place for those kinds of visuals.

Aug 15 - 11:17 PM

Rated NCC-1701

Rated NCC-1701

Easiest way to take advantage of a singular advertising campaign.

Aug 18 - 03:21 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"The room should feel empty when you're in it." Take a cue from your movie and STFU.

Aug 15 - 07:16 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Looked into it. WB has no standing. Weinstein didn't lose, he just didn't want to fight the case. Btw, there have been five previous movies named "Paranoia", and I haven't heard a peep about that. Also, Buster Keaton's "The General" is a classic, but John Boorman was still able to make his own "The General" without such copyright nonsense. This whole issue is stupid.

Aug 15 - 07:27 PM

Francesco F.

Francesco Fortuna

Didn't mean to piss you off o_0. I was just putting it out there, and yes I agree too that this whole issue is stupid.

Aug 15 - 07:31 PM

Infernal D.

Infernal Dude 2.0

Don't worry. This is how he talks to everyone.

Aug 16 - 12:05 AM

closedmouth

Anna Belle

It's not a matter of copyright, it's that the title for the 1916 film was registered with the MPAA and when The Weinstein Company tried to register the same title Warner Bros. were a bunch of dicks and demanded that the new film change its title. They claimed the Daniels film being called "The Butler" created confusion with the 1916 short film that nobody had ever heard of. It's pretty ridiculous.

http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-butler-forced-to-choose-a-new-title-due-to-ver,99747/
http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-butler-is-now-lee-daniels-the-butler-based-on,100635/

Aug 16 - 07:54 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Movie titles are recycled all the time. WB didn't have a case, and btw, the MPAA didn't even exist in 1916 to register anything. It was founded in 1922.

Aug 16 - 11:22 AM

Rated NCC-1701

Rated NCC-1701

I vaguely remember a thread in General Discussion about posters listing movies with similar titles. I used to think that if any studio was to raise a stink about titular copyright infringment, it would be Disney. Welcome to the dicklist, Warner.

Aug 18 - 03:24 PM

Francesco F.

Francesco Fortuna

Didn't mean to piss you off o_0. I was just putting it out there, and yes I agree too that this whole issue is stupid.

Aug 15 - 07:31 PM

Jonathan Edward O.

Jon Owens

I can't help but think Jim Carrey may have gotten to some of the critics when it came to the reviews for Kick-Ass 2... A lot of them seem to be saying that its too violent. I'm seeing it anyway and I can tell you without a doubt the violence will not bother me just like it didn't when I saw the first one

Aug 15 - 07:43 PM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

Just saw it, it's a solid well done sequel if you were a fan of the first film, the violence is almost the same amount as the first as well.

Aug 15 - 11:19 PM

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