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Bond 22 No More: New 007 Movie Gets a Title

by Jeff Giles | January 25, 2008

Summary

It's going to take a little getting used to, what with months of referring to it simply as Bond 22 and all, but the next 007 caper has an official title. Back to Article

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Mr. Bowler writes:
on Jan 25 2008 05:38 AM

Takes a few times saying to get use to. Quantum of Solace. Quantum of Solace. Quantum of Solace.

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PrecentorEpsilonXVI writes:
on Jan 25 2008 06:28 AM

Woo! SPECTRE is back! When do we get to see Blofeld?

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dahluzz writes:
on Jan 25 2008 07:00 AM

people tend to hate what they fear and fear what they do not understand. no one is going to understand what that title (or two of the three words that comprise it) means, so, via the transitive property of equality, people will hate this title. c'mon, it's science.

the 'twice as much action' prjection is nice and as far as the title is concerned, people will do what they usually do when a bond movie comes out: just call it 'that new bond movie.'

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jnunez1979 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 07:58 AM

WHY DONT THEY JUST CALL IT "SOLACE"? ITS CATCHIER AND IS A LITTLE MORE CLOSER TO A BOND TITLE, WELL CLOSER THAN QUANTUM OF SOLACE.

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Zapoo writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:06 AM

Hopefilly the movie is not as boring as the first one.

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photosuperstar writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:08 AM

Horrible, horrible title. This lowers my expectations of the new Bond film. Well, at least it isn't a remake!

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remyrem12 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:12 AM

If you know what a quantum is, the title makes perfect sense.

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IMAmoose24 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:16 AM

Twice the action?? NO NO NO NO NO..

NO!

The whole charm of Bond is what he is, A SECRET AGENT. Stealth and cunning antics should be his means of bringing down the baddies. Too much actions turns the movie into just another run of the mill action movie, nothing more. Too much action and you get one of the worst bond films ever- Die Another Day.

Hope they're sensible to the true fans of the series and do him and the novels justice. Guess I shouldn't complain though, Casino Royal kicked major ***.

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Young Turk writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:33 AM

In reply to this comment (#1519789)
Save yourself the money, just go rent one of the last generation bond flicks, I recommend Tomorrow Never Dies, or The World is Not Enough. Neither of those is "as boring as the first". Plenty of gadgetry and silly action for you to gorge on, leave these Bond flicks to the adults.

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jpotter writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:41 AM

geez, sounds like a sci-fi fan fiction. hmm...i can only hope there's some british sexual innendo or something in there we don't understand.

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MovieSamurai writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:44 AM

quantum of solace is defined as the smallest unit of compassion that two people can have. (ie Vesper and James)

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Bender writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:44 AM

Well it could be worse.

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arendr writes:
on Jan 25 2008 08:47 AM

It's a strange title, but it shows they're out to make something with a little more depth than Tomorrow Never Dies, etc.

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photosuperstar writes:
on Jan 25 2008 09:25 AM

Yeah, it has to be better than the last few Pierce Brosman crapfests.

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dahluzz writes:
on Jan 25 2008 09:27 AM

In reply to this comment (#1519923)
k, now we're getting somewhere. but will the general public be willing to wikipedia the phrase... and should they have to?

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Gimy writes:
on Jan 25 2008 09:37 AM

anybody else think of "quantom leap" when they saw it?? i actually liked that show. anyway, it just sounds like they're trying to make it smarter than it actually is. its an action flick guys, please don't make the audience think. but hey...at least its not as corny as "attack of the clones". ah...thats classic.

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nathanpoitras writes:
on Jan 25 2008 09:42 AM

You know it's gonna be wicked!

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dennischu22 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 09:59 AM

Honestly, those who advocate Brosnan-era Bond films and claim that spies are more about stealth and subtleness just completely cancel out their own point.

I think the title isn't too bad at all. Succinct and with a little tinge of intrigue, "Quantum of Solace" sounds like a title that will give a potentially great Bond film more boost.

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southwick writes:
on Jan 25 2008 10:18 AM

I like the title, I worry about 2x the action.

The last one had tons of action I thought.

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arendr writes:
on Jan 25 2008 10:31 AM

I thought Casino Royale had the perfect amount of action. It was like an old style Bond where the action was spread out more.

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TheMike85 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 10:41 AM

...Anyone else think that this sounds like the title for a Castlevania game?

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h-town24 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 10:42 AM

Nice!

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There's a soup in my fly! writes:
on Jan 25 2008 10:50 AM

I hope they don't try to actually use this title in the theme song.

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arendr writes:
on Jan 25 2008 10:59 AM

In reply to this comment (#1520742)
Haha, I didn't think about that. It'd have to be IDM or something.

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slip writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:04 AM

great title, that'll be interesting to hear people say that one at the theater.

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slip writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:05 AM

In reply to this comment (#1520655)
it does sound like a castlevania title after i think about it

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Oblivioncry writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:17 AM

nice title,
about the action. i thought the first one lacked action. well it was the right amount but a bit more would be still cool. coz the action wasnt as silly and stupid as in the one before.

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Shatter24 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:18 AM

Still miss Pierce Brosnan and his flicks. The new Bond is going to take getting used to.

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thereign writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:24 AM

I have A DECAGRAM OF INTEREST in this new film.

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Shadowflare writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:28 AM

I like the new title, mostly because I know what it means. :p I'm very much looking forward to this one.

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Floor Man writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:47 AM

What an odd title. Hmmm. Regardless, I want to see it...now! :)

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arendr writes:
on Jan 25 2008 11:53 AM

In reply to this comment (#1520921)
WOW, YOU'RE FUNNY.

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MovieSamurai writes:
on Jan 25 2008 12:08 PM

If you go to Yahoo! Movies now you can some shots of the cast, basically head shots. But if you were a fan of Jeffrey Wright as Felix Leiter, then you will be pleased to see his photo among the cast list. I know I am.

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trpsomewhere writes:
on Jan 25 2008 12:23 PM

Thanks, MovieSamurai!

I was about to state what Quantum and Solace means, and you said it out. But I'm still going to restate it:
Quantum --> a discrete amount
Solace --> comfort or consolation at the time of distress

In short, a little bit of consolation or compassion for Bond for his loss of Vesper!

It just means it's about taking a step ahead in life for him! And he's trying to do this as a way to avenge her, so that he gets the solace! :-)

It's less science and more English in this case...! ;-)

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Ciaranmv writes:
on Jan 25 2008 12:23 PM

Up until now, MOST of the Bond titles are featured in the opening song like "Die Another Day" and "Goldeneye." Think of how hard it would be to write something lyrical that rhymes with "Quantam of Solace"!

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lilheclou writes:
on Jan 25 2008 12:56 PM

can't wait for this movie and i can't belive this will be comming out this year p.s. what does Quantum of Solace mean beside that i thinks its a solid title and it is something diffrent

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OperaGhost21 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 12:56 PM

Test drive the new 2008 Quantum Solace!

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rt_hire_me writes:
on Jan 25 2008 01:07 PM

I heard it's going to be filmed entirely in latin. Bond is on a secret mission to educate the world.

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kubla writes:
on Jan 25 2008 01:14 PM

Worst. Title. Ever.

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ifrflyer writes:
on Jan 25 2008 02:04 PM

Quantum of Solace is a great title. "Quantum" is just a term for a given portion, typically small. 'Quantum of Solace' is just another way of saying "A Measure of Comfort". Of course, that sounds like a Keira Knightly film when you put it that way, but it hints at what Bond may find in the aftermath of Vesper's betrayal and death. The fact that this is Bond we're talking about gives some indication of the lengths he will go to in his effort to attain it; it adds a level of insanity and compulsion alluded to in the end of Casino Royale.

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Baccus83 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 02:10 PM

It's a very creative, economic title. Though it will probably be lost on those without a more expansive vocabulary.

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theginsengtree writes:
on Jan 25 2008 02:12 PM

I'm guessing that "2X the action" is an easy-to-say exaggeration meant to get people excited for the film, which obviously didn't work on this forum. I'm okay with upping the adrenaline factor a little bit, as long as they preserve the dark, timeless tone of Casino Royale as opposed to the cheese-factor that assaulted Brosnan's tenure like a virus.

Great title though, and hopefully word of mouth will spread its meaning around so more people can appreciate it.

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IAmAnIdiot writes:
on Jan 25 2008 02:15 PM

As long as they keep that Casino Royale feeling, I'm happy

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dystopiandweller writes:
on Jan 25 2008 02:57 PM

Great title, but... instead of 2x the action (which just makes it closer to the ridiculous Brosnan films), how about 2x the suspense? Like Hitchcock said (I paraphrase), it isn't about the bomb exploding, but waiting for the bomb to explode. Please don't just add in more action, please.

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dystopiandweller writes:
on Jan 25 2008 03:02 PM

A good spy film should thrive on suspense more than action anyway. Or both, by making the action mean something. From Russia With Love thrived on suspense. Goldfinger was great because the plentiful action came with enough tension.

Sorry, I'm just very worried about the "twice as much action" statement. I'd rather have a movie with less action if it kept me on the edge of my seat.

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arendr writes:
on Jan 25 2008 03:05 PM

I couldn't agree with you more dystopiandweller (about both your comments). Just like Sergio Leone, who wasn't so much interested in the moment of violence as the moments leading up to the burst.

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SCHOOL_IS_BORING.COM writes:
on Jan 25 2008 03:12 PM

i miss the brosnan bond movies these new ones take too much getting used to have to take 3-4 before i accept the new actor

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KarmaPolice- writes:
on Jan 25 2008 03:41 PM

I don't really know if they should be worrying that much about the action... all i know is that their new bond girl is super hot. Olga Kurylenko, gg.

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Willy105 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 04:37 PM

An original story?

Not an adaptation of a book?

We'll see how this turns out.

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Brian82 writes:
on Jan 25 2008 06:17 PM

It doesn't have the sound of classic Bond titles like Dr. No, You Only Live Twice, From Russia with Love, etc... but then again this franchise has been completely reinvented hasn't it? They have to keep breaking the rules. It's the James Bond franchise after all so most people will just accept it and trust the filmmakers know what they're doing. I trust them, and I'm sure the title will make sense once we see the film. Thank God they didn't name it Casino Royale 2!

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The_Duckling writes:
on Jan 25 2008 06:41 PM

ya, i agree that the 2x the action is just a random figure, like "Just a Second!" when you don't mean 1 second. quantum of Solace sounds like a great title if you know what it means, and it really kinda mixes in with the other bond titles, just not seamlessly. But how the hell are they gunna do the theme song?!?!

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sunsaz writes:
on Jan 25 2008 07:36 PM

Eh, the title will take a little while to grow on us. Die Another Day and TWINE were the same way.

Still, it's been a long time since they've had two consecutive bad-a$$ Bond movies. Hopefully, QofS will end the drought.

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NylonLisa writes:
on Jan 25 2008 10:00 PM

Casino Royale was a terrible movie...period. The new one sounds like it may be 2x as bad.
I cannot believe they continue to use Dench for the "M" character. Using the scariest looking 70 year old whining biker chick as Bond's superior is just wrong! She seemed to be in half of the scenes and everytime she came on I had to turn away.
Bond is a character who is suprremely in charge, confident and tough. He has vast experience and we always feel he can deal with any situation. To have him answering to, and looking up to a bizarre shrieking harpy is crazy.
The rest of the movie was just pretentious. I have seldom seen two more cardboard cutouts than the leading stars. Standing around sending meaningful stares into the distance as the camera zooms crazily around them. A little pathetic action thrown in, then followed by more model posing...ridiculous!
Maybe if they watched some of the earlier Connery films they might get an idea of Bond's real character and how the people around him fit into it.

NylonLisa

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jihad writes:
on Jan 26 2008 12:22 AM

i hope they focus the next few movies on bringing back Ernst Stavro Blofeld
lookin totally like dr evil and all

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jihad writes:
on Jan 26 2008 12:28 AM

i hope they focus the next few movies on bringing back Ernst Stavro Blofeld
lookin totally like dr evil and all

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Daniel Aaron writes:
on Jan 26 2008 08:18 AM

thought casino royale belonged on the lifetime network right down to a naked bond getting hit in the a*s (im not going to say it but that was waaay to homoerotic for any red blooded kid) plus Q sounding like oprah please it was lame and had no action and a stupid poker game. I want cars that can go underwater I want space stations i want tankers that swallow subs....odd job...hot chicks toys. and island that house giant bases that is bond these people put out garbage but hopefully things have changed but they better not get all psychoanalytical again that was trash and i wasnt the only one in the theater looking around to see if the guy next to me heard the same thing or checking my watch and shifting in my chair.

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indiephantom writes:
on Jan 26 2008 11:37 AM

That title will change. Nobody in America even knows what the hell that means.

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AquaFina writes:
on Jan 26 2008 01:40 PM

The synopsis of the book sounds more interesting than does the movie. He could be such an interesting character, but alas...

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cuteview writes:
on Jan 26 2008 03:21 PM

Simply Stupid.

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eltouche writes:
on Jan 26 2008 04:11 PM

It's an odd title for a bond film but they are trying to take the series in a new direction, so it makes sense. I doubt a "heady" title will keep anyone away... All are entitled to their opinions, but I was growing tired of seeing (basically) the same bond movie over and over again... as for the books, it seems to me that 'Casino' did a far better job at capturing the tone than most... if you long for Bronsan, they are available to rent

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arendr writes:
on Jan 26 2008 04:27 PM

I found Casino Royale extremely close to the Connery style of Bond movies. A lot of it reminded me of Dr. No. In fact, if you were to watch Dr. No you would see that there's some "lifetime", as you call it, romance between Ursula and Sean. Come on, "Underneath the mango tree..." is macho? What the hell is wrong with giving Bond a bit of depth? Also, Bond actually gets married in On Her Majesty's Secret Service. So Casino Royale is the one that's closer to classic Bond. The more recent ones are the perversions.

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Daniel Aaron writes:
on Jan 26 2008 06:27 PM

no Connery and Ursula under the mango tree was Bond. I recall one of them had a blade too and it is all how you shoot it M didn't give bond little pysco-babble talks in the originals and many a lass has fallen by the way side in a bond movie heart wrenching yes but worth no more than a glance or quick moment and by the end of the flick there was someone eles.But wait ...to compare Dr No to this.. I will stop now im getting of this bus ..bus driver....and im not advocating fornication neither maybe they just rolled around a bit

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arendr writes:
on Jan 26 2008 07:14 PM

In reply to this comment (#1526836)
I have no idea what you just said.

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CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe writes:
on Jan 26 2008 08:29 PM

hey, Casino Royale bought them so much needed respect and life

in a series that was just about dead, so the naming of the title really

isn't a big deal either way for me. anything is better than Bonds 22, now

Bonds 23 would be cool and for the villian they could have jim carrey still

screaming about how the hell that number movie convinced him in staring in

that film;)

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InTheArmsOfGod writes:
on Jan 26 2008 10:00 PM

More poker scenes I hope!

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smartmoviekid writes:
on Jan 27 2008 01:21 AM

who in the hell calls dame judi dench a "harpy"? ur ****ing stupid for saying that.

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JazzX writes:
on Jan 27 2008 01:42 PM

You'd have thought people would have learned their lesson after the way they treated Daniel Craig before anyone had even seen his performance.

Now they're making the same mistake - judging a film by its title before anyone's even watched it.

Anyway, some of the lyrics to the new song have just been released - although they haven't found a singer yet. The end of the chorus goes like this:

"It doesn't matter if you're Paul, Dave, Bill or Horace,
When she leaves you there's no quantum of solace
No quantum of solace, no , no , no
Quantum of solace"

Looks like it's going to be another male singer again, I've worked that much out.

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Relapse writes:
on Jan 27 2008 05:26 PM

This whole "double the action" thing has me worried. Was that an actual statement by the studio? Or was that something someone else made up? I thought the chase in the beginning of Casion Royale was cool, though it did seem rather over the top in comparison to the rest of the movie. If this turns into a Transporter clone I'll be very upset. Though the Aston WOULD be a better choice than a BMW.

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workingman writes:
on Jan 28 2008 10:30 AM

Though it seems like a strange title, it gives me more good hope for the movie knowing they seems to want to use the short story titles as the titles for the upcoming movies

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workingman writes:
on Jan 28 2008 10:33 AM

Though it seems like a strange title, it gives me more good hope for the movie knowing they seems to want to use the short story titles as the titles for the upcoming movies

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RosebudIsASled! writes:
on Jan 29 2008 06:34 PM

The plot sounds like it could be really generic. Is it just me, or does every action hero/spy end up going to some bleak European country followed by a trip to Italy?

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Ashron writes:
on Jan 30 2008 02:38 PM

In reply to this comment (#1526836)
In the book Casino Royale, Bond was not the suave superspy we've seen in the past movies. He was much closer to the way Craig portrayed him in the movie, and he grows into the confidence and poise throughout the books. It's called a character arc, and if the new producers want to take several movies to play that out, that's fine with me.

And, sorry, but your opinion pretty much lost any merit when you called Dame Judy a harpy. She was one of the really good things about the movie.

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tabascoman77 writes:
on Jan 30 2008 10:43 PM

They could call it "James Bond vs. The Lettuce Monsters" and it would have my money as long as Daniel Craig reprised his role and the movie followed along the same lines as CR.

The last movie showed me that the producers wanted to get back on the right track so I could care less about the title.

Hell, the last movie had "Casino Royale" in the title and you didn't see the damn Casino for like a full hour.

Sorry...it has my money.

And NylonLisa, "M" is not a "harpy". the character of "M" has always been a cold-blooded bastard (Bernard Lee) or cold-blooded ***** (Judi Dench). That's the way it is.

Secondly, Dench had a total screen-time in the movie of like 12-15 minutes which, in a movie that ran about 2 1/2 hours, is really quite small.

Of course, your credibility flew out the window the moment you proclaimed CR to be a terrible movie, so arguing with you about this is probably fruitless. I mean, the rest of your post is full of gigantic contradictions. You describe Bond as being tough and confident...and he is. Then you say the movie needed to be more like the early Connery movies...and it was. It didn't have the whole cheesy gadget/Playboy Bunny/punster crap like all the other movies.

I mean...did you even SEE the movie or are you just going off what your friends told you?

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holdcraftm writes:
on Feb 01 2008 08:42 AM

It's not the name or action that makes a great Bond movie. It is the intrigue and I'm afraid that's been lacking since Sean Connery retired his "James, James Bond." The newest Bond is closer to Connery in looks and build, but lacks the debonair of Connery.

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Bowles writes:
on Feb 01 2008 07:22 PM

Mmm, I can't wait for this, Casino Royale was excellent but I think this film deserves more action, there's not the whole Vesper thing to use. It'll be fun to see Bond take out his frustration on some baddies, old school style.

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killermonkey8822 writes:
on Feb 03 2008 01:31 PM

i was actually hoping that they were gonna remake live and let die....

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