Spider-Man 3 DVD Preview: Creating Venom
RT visits Sony Imageworks for a sneak peek at Spidey DVD extras.
When Spider-Man 3 hits DVD shelves later this month, it will come with a plethora of extras, including over six hours (!) of bonus materials. The highlights of this bonus bounty include a number of featurettes devoted to the film's digitally-enhanced villains, Sandman and Venom, and RT's got a sneak peek just for you!
RT visited the CG magicians at Sony Imageworks to preview some of the Spidey 3 effects featurettes, as well as some special tidbits that might not even be on the DVD. First up: Venom! (Check back tomorrow for a preview of the Sandman special feature.)
Venom began with the black goo that first transforms Spider-Man. Digital Effects Supervisor Peter Nofz showed different test versions of the goo, from animated pencil drawings to blobby "fingers" to thinner goo worms.

"Sam [Raimi] kept talking about fingers and here are our earliest finger test that we ever did with the goo," Said Nofz. "Most of this stuff is procedural. When I say procedural, it means we're letting the computer do most of the work. But Sam did not react very well to any of this stuff. Then we did these little fingers sliding up the arm but that was not what Sam wanted. He wanted really fingers that would be off the surface of the arm. So all the little tricks that we'd used in the past weren't going to cut it. Here comes our first kind of goo worm. We're very proud when we got to this stage. Nobody else was. Nobody else understood what this was. But this was our first goo strand that we could animate."
Once the goo transferred from Peter Parker to Edie Brock, creating Venom, the animators had a whole new character to create. They could do web slinging and flips just fine, but Animation Supervisor Spencer Cook had to distinguish Venom as a character unique to Spider-Man.
"As with Spider-Man, we start with the comic book," said Cook. "We go back and we look at all the great artists that have drawn Venom over the years. Then we also played around with some ideas about how to make the fight scenes brutal, what sorts of things Venom could do in a fight."

One extra that most likely will not make it onto the DVD is home video footage of Sony Imageworks animators performing jumps and poses for Venom. "One of the things that is important to do in animation is sometimes just react from a gut level and just try to understand the body language and the motion of the character on a gut level," explained Cook. "So by videotaping ourselves doing this and just acting it out without really thinking about it, then studying that later, we were able to get a lot of really good ideas from that. We mix that in with what we know from the actors and reference that we have of the actors.
One impressive animator did a full back flip, which is not one of Venom's particular abilities. "This is interesting. We didn't use this but I just thought it was great that one of our animators could do a back flip from a standing position."
Spider-Man 3 hits DVD October 30. Stay tuned for more Spidey previews from our Sony Imageworks visit!
RT visited the CG magicians at Sony Imageworks to preview some of the Spidey 3 effects featurettes, as well as some special tidbits that might not even be on the DVD. First up: Venom! (Check back tomorrow for a preview of the Sandman special feature.)
Venom began with the black goo that first transforms Spider-Man. Digital Effects Supervisor Peter Nofz showed different test versions of the goo, from animated pencil drawings to blobby "fingers" to thinner goo worms.

"Sam [Raimi] kept talking about fingers and here are our earliest finger test that we ever did with the goo," Said Nofz. "Most of this stuff is procedural. When I say procedural, it means we're letting the computer do most of the work. But Sam did not react very well to any of this stuff. Then we did these little fingers sliding up the arm but that was not what Sam wanted. He wanted really fingers that would be off the surface of the arm. So all the little tricks that we'd used in the past weren't going to cut it. Here comes our first kind of goo worm. We're very proud when we got to this stage. Nobody else was. Nobody else understood what this was. But this was our first goo strand that we could animate."
Once the goo transferred from Peter Parker to Edie Brock, creating Venom, the animators had a whole new character to create. They could do web slinging and flips just fine, but Animation Supervisor Spencer Cook had to distinguish Venom as a character unique to Spider-Man.
"As with Spider-Man, we start with the comic book," said Cook. "We go back and we look at all the great artists that have drawn Venom over the years. Then we also played around with some ideas about how to make the fight scenes brutal, what sorts of things Venom could do in a fight."

One extra that most likely will not make it onto the DVD is home video footage of Sony Imageworks animators performing jumps and poses for Venom. "One of the things that is important to do in animation is sometimes just react from a gut level and just try to understand the body language and the motion of the character on a gut level," explained Cook. "So by videotaping ourselves doing this and just acting it out without really thinking about it, then studying that later, we were able to get a lot of really good ideas from that. We mix that in with what we know from the actors and reference that we have of the actors.
One impressive animator did a full back flip, which is not one of Venom's particular abilities. "This is interesting. We didn't use this but I just thought it was great that one of our animators could do a back flip from a standing position."
Spider-Man 3 hits DVD October 30. Stay tuned for more Spidey previews from our Sony Imageworks visit!
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on Oct 17 2007 12:36 AM All this work for 15 minutes of Venom (Reply to this) |
![]() on Oct 17 2007 01:33 AM Spiderman is the most overrated movie in history next to when tomatoes were considered an animal before it was considered a fruit, then vegetable. (Reply to this) |
![]() on Oct 17 2007 02:02 AM Hasn't this been out on DVD for a little while now? At least in Australia it has been, so I would've assumed this would be the same as in the States?? (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 04:02 AM Oh man... this brings back PAINFUL memories of this past summer... (Reply to this) |
![]() on Oct 17 2007 04:41 AM Booyah-ka-sha. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 04:55 AM can't wait to get this on dvd (Reply to this) |
![]() on Oct 17 2007 05:53 AM Shouldn't this article be labeled "Spider-Man 3 DVD Preview: Butchering Venom"? (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 06:23 AM Six hours of extras cannot disguise the fact that this movie sucked. Perhaps the filmmakers will discuss how they took all the good ideas from Spiderman 2 and pretty much tossed them out the window for this dull sequel. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 06:39 AM In reply to this comment (#1197370) True. They should've ditched Sandman, had Harry and Peter go through some quarrels while having Venom being the main villain, have Harry and Peter work things out, and THEN have the final fight. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 08:56 AM WOW!!!!!!!!!we get to see 3 hours of bonus material of the making of the 15 mins of venom in the movie. NOw isnt that GREAT! NO body should buy this movie. Protest motherfckures! they butchered venom. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 09:20 AM I'm buying this dvd because I've been a Spidey fan all my life and I don't care that Venom was practically screwed over in the movie, I still loved it. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 09:43 AM Venom: most clearly mistranslated comic to movie villain ever. Wow, that'd make a good list actually, who else goes on there? (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 10:02 AM How is a movie that is almost universally agreed upon as to suck, by fans and critics alike ... considered over-rated?? Some people like to just hear/see themselves talk (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 10:42 AM "and then we decided to just show topher's face instead of venom's because, you know, he's famous. but we gave him some spiky teeth! that's pretty cool, right?" (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 10:52 AM This movie was like Star Wars Episode 1 for me. I left thinking I liked it, because I wanted to so badly. But the more I started making fun of certain parts of the movie, the more I realized just how bad it was. Venom, in particular, was wasted. Sandman was a stupid, useless addition. Gah, need to stop thinking about it. Protest! (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 11:16 AM In reply to this comment (#1197741) I thought they handled Venom fine. When you look at the list of mishandled villians you have Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Two-Face, Dr. Doom, Galactus, and more that were handled far worse than Mr. Brock. I thought he was fine in the movie and that Topher Grace gave an entertaining performance. (Reply to this) |
![]() on Oct 17 2007 12:34 PM Spider-Man 3 sucked (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 12:53 PM Spider-man 3 ruled....Venom is just a poorly handled villian in the comics, and the movie reflected that. In fact, movie Venom is better than comic Venom, simply because Comic Venom never did anything....at least movie Venom killed Harry. Still...listening to people whine is funny. You'll all buy this DVD, and you know it. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 01:02 PM I enjoyed Spiderman 3. Sandman truly got the Raimi treatment and Venom was forced in by the studios. Not as bad as everyone claims it is, just as much humor, silliness, and drama as part 1 and 2. I think the black suit created unreal expectations. But yeah venom was handled poorly, Raimi was out to show us how much he hated the character, and it shows. Still the Harry/peter relationship came to a thrilling and tear jerking conclusion. Sandman was great to see and the action scenes were exciting. If you can laugh your way past the Emo Peter comedic moments, (and yes they were meant to be humerous) then the rest is cake. (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 17 2007 06:02 PM In reply to this comment (#1197969) I agree with everything except Mr. Freeze. Sure the Governator might not have been the best pick for the job, but his basic backstory of turning to crime for his wife was left moderately untouched, and this is only shortly after B:TAS reinvented Freeze. So the list goes something like... 1. Galactus. Giant space guy turned into a shroud of mist, nothing will ever be able to top this. 2. Venom. IMO. (Reply to this) |
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