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George Kirk couldn't warp-kamikaze Nero's ship because it was so badly damaged. Remember when you were watching it and saw it all happen right there in front of you? And if you're still confused, just ask any random small child who saw the movie and they'll tell you that.
May 29 - 10:18 AM
Says the idiot who thinks that Roger Ebert is still alive and thinks that Star Trek is called Space Trek.
Apr 25 - 12:27 PM
So you hate on Star Trek '09 but defend Movie 43. Pathetic.
Apr 6 - 06:37 PM
Oh my God... threads like this are why I go on Rotten Tomatoes. I don't know how I'd get through my day without checking up occasionally to see how the epic war between Matthew Preston/Movie 43/Geordie Newlands and Jake Preston/Alex Maverick/Dylan Jones. You guys make my day. Thank you.
Apr 3 - 06:50 PM
Don't feed the troll guys. This forum is about the upcoming film not the first one, the only reason why someone would come here to insult the first film is to bait fans into an emotional response. A.k.a., a troll.
Mar 25 - 05:20 PM
Why do people keep on answering this guy's posts if he pisses everybody off? Anyway I myself am a Trekkie and I actually loved the last one. Not only was it the best Star Trek movie yet for me, but I also thought it was the best adventure film since Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Mar 10 - 06:49 PM
I enjoyed this movie quite a bit. I also enjoy the deconstruction of logic, from time to time, with things beyond our comprehension. In conversing about the space-time continuum and what energies beyond our current understanding, like dark matter/anti-matter, are capable of.
So, while all the current theories remain merely hypothetical, their effects cannot be concretely argued one way or the other. More importantly, when these elements and ideas are experimented with in film, it is simply a catalyst to make you consider the possibilities. The entertainment of thought alongside amusement.
To get thee panties in a bunch over inconsistencies that you, yourself, believe to be a reality only highlights your failure to imagine the possibilities and limit yourself within the distracting nuisances of your own perception. Personally, I think your just trolling to get everyone riled up. You have found success in that regard, amidst your presumably dismal life. Thankfully though, I learned a long time ago that there is no use, point or way to successfully argue with a sociopath.
People like you who make me look forward to the day dolphins supplant the human race in intelligence and world-wide dominance. And by the look of this thread you engineered, that day might just come in my lifetime if we use you to set the bar. With that, I hope you move beyond your own demented sense of clarity and find a way to put into practice, a sense of empathy towards your fellow human beings in this life. So, when you move onto the next, you won't find yourself alone as you wander... Into Darkness! :P
Feb 24 - 11:52 PM
Oh Matthew. That's not what you said last night when we watched it. Remember, you asked me to spoon you afterwards?
Feb 16 - 12:30 PM
hmm yea.. ok. So, what is with the habitual trollin...why do you need attention from strangers? Do you need to feel important? Whats the vindication for acting like a child?
I'm expecting a bullshit responce but theres always time to kill
Feb 7 - 08:05 AM
Matthew,
If I may attempt an assessment of the scenario you have brought to light. These are possibilities that counter your assessment of the scene.
1. Nero's ship had just appeared through a time dilation. In the past, this has knocked out shields (both defensive, and structural integrity) on any ship traveling through time.
2. The Federation ship was thousands of kilometers (albeit not well shown on screen, which would be the only flaw I could entertain. But this will be remedied by future points) from Nero's ship. This would allow for greater velocity of impact when the two collided.
3. Even at a short distance, in space there is no drag coefficient. This allows for an object to obtain greater speed in a shorter period of time.
4. Gauging the amount of time that Kirk had time to speak with his wife, this supports the ship was farther away than we see on screen.
5. The Federation ship flew inside the (for lack of better term) claws of Nero's ship, again allowing for it to gain greater speed.
6. If the structural and defensive shields were down, this accounts for explosions throughout Nero's vessel.
I hope this helps.
Feb 7 - 05:52 AM
I appreciate the thought you put into that. I'd still say, though, that that initial scene tried to establish the invulnerability of nero's titanic vessel vs the puny Kelvin, and then completely reversed the relationship at the end of the scene. The Kelvin's weapons weren't damaging the Romulan vessel. If the Kelvin in collision mode equaled a sum greater than the photon torpedoes (or whatever), then why? The Kelvin would be to Nero's ship in size what a photon torpedo is to an ordinary sized vessel, so the speed thing should apply to an ordinary sized vessel being hit by a photon torpedo (which travel at a sub-warp speed, but still outpace starship cruising speed).
Instead of suffering internal chain-reactions, I think Nero's ship should just have suffered a direct hit by the Kelvin's suicide run and therefore been disabled that way. Say hitting the command centre stunned them just long enough to the escape pods to reach safety. Or they should've had a pice of Nero's ship break away at the point of impact and explained the Kelvin's greater capacity for damage than the sum of a few torpedoes by mentioning something about the warp core exploding.
Feb 7 - 06:29 PM
"Shit were spotted, jam their transmissions and knock out their warp drive" Doesnt take a vulcan to figure that one out people.
Feb 5 - 11:34 PM
Matthew, saying that Stra trek sucks and movie 43 is great means that your the best
Feb 5 - 05:39 PM
I legitimately don't understand how people like you use this site. You have no knowledge of this movie obviously, whatsoever.
Feb 4 - 07:19 PM
Does it really matter which I meant? The point is that use stupid logic and act like a child while pretending to know what you are talking about.
Feb 5 - 09:38 AM
It does matter, Treyberry, it does. It matters that I don't waste my time justifying myself to someone, presumably someone to whom English is a first language, who hasn't yet grasped the distinction between the words 'how' and 'why'.
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this once. This one time, Treyberry. So, obviously, my point was neither stupid nor illogical. A starship cruising at taxi speed wouldn't cause anything near the damage that Kirk's father's ship did when it rammed the Romulans. It would be equivalent to a small ant touching your big toe and your entire body just exploding and splattering your Treyberry ligaments and squidy squadgy brain-pulp all over the Treyberry family on Christmas day.
Absurd, no? But if the ant were travelling at warp speed, then maybe it'd be less absurd. Neither of us is a physicist, but we know the chance of the first scenario being able to happen is precisely zero, while the second is more than zero.
Feb 5 - 02:00 PM
Yeah, I read the first line and the very last line. Because it would be a waste of time to read the entire essay. And you're little joke calling me "Treyberry" is hilarious!!
Feb 5 - 03:32 PM
"Why the first one sucked poo". Just the name of the thread shows the brain development of the person who wrote it.
Feb 4 - 01:46 PM
But I'm clearly more intelligent than you. Also, 'mental' or 'intellectual' development would be better phrasing than 'brain development'.
Feb 4 - 04:06 PM
Okay, if you're going to respond, at least say something mildly amusing or logical.
Feb 4 - 05:25 PM
First of all, nothing you've said has been remotely amusing or interesting. Second, I respond whenever I like. You don't have a say in what I do or don't do any more than a squashed woodlouse has a say in the drafting of an extistential treatise on the moral and spiritual dichotomies of being a loving Chinese owner of tasty looking dogs.
Feb 4 - 05:41 PM
Well, the only responses you ever write are either immature or they are just paragraphs of irrelevant nonsense like the one above me. Get back to me when you have something real to say.
Feb 4 - 08:27 PM
Your existence is a terrible argument for the continuation of the human race.
Feb 3 - 05:09 AM
Or maybe I should disregard the advice of a meaningless human being and instead do what amuses me.
Feb 4 - 05:42 PM
How can I look like an idiot when people reading this thread will be directly contrasting my comments with yours?
Feb 5 - 04:09 AM
Your face is a terrible argument for the continuation of the human race.
Feb 3 - 05:09 AM
Actually, it did make sense. People look at your face and ask themselves, "Should a species that can produce such abominations as this cockbreath's face continue to reproduce, or should it be allowed to fade away from existence?"
If you require further explanation, I'll provide it for you. Fucking retard.
Feb 4 - 04:08 PM
A relatively minuscule spacecraft essentially taxiing into a spacecraft about 100 times its size shouldn't have inflicted the damage it did. The film was crap.
Feb 1 - 07:13 PM
All that needed to be done to remedy the situation is make Kirk's father warp the ship into the Romulans. The kinetic energy would be off the charts. Boom! Bye bye, Romulans!
But Abrams couldn't work that out, so he just put some stupid shit in place of my awesome idea.
Feb 1 - 07:17 PM
Um did it occur to you that maybe the Kelvin's warp drive was damaged beyond repair by the barage of missles Nero launched at it? Because if it was functional then Kirk would've given the order for them to warp away rather than evacuate the ship.
Feb 5 - 12:14 PM
I'm sure to a retarded mind, that seems like a valid point. This is your logic: If I flick someone's arm, that person's arm would ordinarily remain intact, but if I punch that person at warp speed, the arm would fly off. However, I can't punch the man's arm at warp speed, therefore the man's arm will fly off when I flick it.
Yeah, that's how your brain operates. Second, you do realise that the script was written, right? The writers can make the warp drive as damaged or undamaged as they like. They could make the warp drive too damaged for sustained warp, but not damaged enough to prevent shorp periods of warp. Or they could make the Romulan warp drive faster than the Kelvin's, ruling out the possibility of flight from the engagement.
Feb 6 - 04:57 AM
Do you ever use your brain? The writers had to find a way for Kirk's dad to die in the beginning. And the way they did it was perfectly plausible.
Feb 6 - 12:51 PM
Are you calling me a retard? Okay that's it I'm ending this argument once and for all. So try to follow my reasoning here please. The reason why the Kelvin produced such a massive explosion is because it's warp core has fucking ANTIMATTER in it which when reacting with normal matter in an uncontrolled way causes both forms of matter to anihilate resulting in a MASSIVE surge of energy. E=MC2, which means that for every gram of matter there are 300 000 times more energy. Anihilating the mass of the regular and anti matter will release all that energy. If anything the explosion would be BIGGER. And by the way the explosion is NOT any bigger than any other time we've seen a Kelvin-sized starship explode.
Feb 8 - 08:28 AM
Declan Connor
their is a scene when an engineer tells the bridge that the warp core was knocked out
Sep 9 - 02:04 AM