Box Office Guru Wrapup: Star Trek Softer Than Expected at #1

Vulcans and their comrades came out to power the sci-fi sequel Star Trek Into Darkness into the number one spot at the North American box office, however grosses were substantially below industry expectations across the board. The Paramount franchise film had an extended release and grossed $70.6M over the Friday-to-Sunday period with a total of $84.1M since its start on Wednesday night in IMAX locations making for a debut that was smaller than its 2009 predecessor's.

The studio chose to make the highly anticipated 3D tentpole available to fans earlier via premium large-format screens. The release kicked off on Wednesday with about $2M in ticket sales from 336 higher-priced IMAX 3D screens with shows starting at 8:00pm. Thursday was the official full opening day with $11.5M in business. The figure was not too impressive, however the release date was changed very late in the game from Friday so not all moviegoers knew about the earlier debut. Friday jumped 91% to $22.1M, Saturday climbed another 25% to $27.5M and Sunday was estimated to drop 24% to $21M. Over the Friday-to-Sunday period, the new Trek averaged $18,241 from 3,868 locations.

Four years ago, Star Trek opened in a slightly different format. It was slotted into the second weekend of May with a Friday release kicking off with Thursday night shows in all theaters starting at 7:00pm. It had an IMAX release in 138 locations, but was all 2D. Its opening was $75.2M over the three-day period and $79.2M including $4M from Thursday night shows. Add in that film's Monday gross to make a similar 4.5-day start, and its $86.7M was bigger than the $84.1M of Darkness despite the new chapter having higher 2D ticket prices plus 3D surcharges plus 200 additional IMAX screens.

Studio research showed that the audience was 64% male and 73% 25 and older. A very high 16% of the gross ($13.5M) came from IMAX indicating that fans were willing to pay extra in this case given that about 30 minutes of the film were shot with those special cameras making for a premium experience. Overall, 45% of the gross came from 3D screens including IMAX.

The underperforming numbers of Into Darkness were downright baffling. Paramount made a good product and picked a fine time to release it giving it two weeks distance from the summer's other action tentpole Iron Man 3. Reviews were mostly positive (more than good enough for a sci-fi sequel) and audiences also liked the film with opening day ticket buyers giving an A grade from CinemaScore. The marketing push was strong and normal for May action tentpoles. 2009's Star Trek not only opened well, it also had solid legs with 70% of its domestic business coming after the first weekend. Sequels to leggy blockbusters like these usually open bigger, especially if 3D is added in.

Before the film's release, Paramount openly predicted a $100M opening through Sunday. Studios routinely low-ball these forecasts so the final numbers end up looking like they are above expectations. So the performance was probably much lower than what the studio internally believed was likely.

If internal factors were not to blame, it may have been external ones that were in play - namely competition and erosion of audience interest. Competition that the two Trek movies faced was almost identical, although allocated differently. The rest of the Top 15 films this weekend grossed $77M which was 10% more than the $70M that 2009's Trek faced. Factor in four years of ticket price increases and the same number of people saw competing movies each time.

But what was in fact different was how much the second and third place films dominated the rest of the marketplace while all other movies made chump change. In both years, the runnerup pic was a superhero flick (Iron Man 3 and 2009's X-Men Origins: Wolverine) and the third place film was a female-skewing pic (The Great Gatsby and 2009's Ghosts of Girlfriends Past). This year's duo grossed a stellar $58.6M, up a whopping 60% from 2009's $36.7M. This weekend's two holdovers were an awesome twosome that combined for the highest gross in box office history for the second and third place movies on the critical third weekend of May and they may have taken away some of Trek's potential audience.

Darkness also came out four years after the Star Trek reboot and some fans, especially those who are not die-hard ones, may have lost interest in the franchise during that gap. The first nine Star Trek films spanned two decades and never had a gap this big. 2002's Nemesis came out after a four-year void, ended up as the lowest-grossing film in series history, and was credited with killing the franchise. Until J.J. Abrams rebooted it six and a half years later.

Most franchises in recent years have not taken that much time off in between installments including Twilight, Harry Potter, Iron Man, Transformers, and the Star Wars prequels. Even newer ones like Hobbit and Hunger Games have told fans that they will get a new chapter every year. Last year, however, there were a pair of films that came out exactly four years after their last installments and opened bigger without even needing 3D - The Dark Knight Rises and Skyfall. Both were threequels to a reboot and followed sequels that were also very successful so audiences were more hooked to the brands. The love shown for 2009's Star Trek could have been somewhat of an anomaly. It certainly brought in a broader more mainstream crowd, but many may have lost the excitement this time around especially with popular alternative options from Mr. Stark and Mr. Gatsby out there right now.

This is not the first time this year that Paramount has found itself in this situation. March's G.I. Joe: Retaliation was the follow-up to the studio's summer 2009 hit The Rise of Cobra and also had a 3D upgrade and a shift in opening day from Friday to Thursday with Wednesday night previews. The new pic (with added starpower) opened to $51M over 4.5 days which did not match up to the $54.7M three-day opening of the 2D Cobra. The sequel is on track to end with $122M, short of the first film's $150.2M, but is seeing much better numbers from overseas markets.

The road ahead will be tricky for Into Darkness. It is well-liked for the most part and it has the Memorial Day holiday weekend on its second frame. But the core adult male audience will be tempted away with two more big sequels opening at the end of this week - Fast & Furious 6 and The Hangover Part III. Also sci-fi sequels tend to draw the bulk of their audiences upfront, even if word-of-mouth is very good.

Overall, Into Darkness is not likely to match the $257.7M final domestic gross of the last Star Trek. However, it still has a shot at $200M if it can hold up relatively well next weekend. Budgeted at $190M, the Kirk-and-Spock sequel will definitely see substantial growth on the international side as several key overseas markets have become much more lucrative since 2009.

This weekend, the new Trek launched in 33 international markets and grossed an estimated $40M from those plus seven holdover territories that bowed last week. Cume outside of North America is $80.5M with the global gross at $164.6M. Russia led the new markets with $8M (quadruple the opening of the last Trek) while the U.K. led the holdovers with a $5.9M weekend and $24M total. Half of the international marketplace has yet to open so plenty of potential is ahead with debuts scheduled in China (May 28), Korea (May 30), France (June 12), Italy (June 13), Brazil (June 14), Spain (July 5) and Japan (August 23).

Dropping a notch down to second place was two-time chart-topper Iron Man 3 which pulled in an estimated $35.2M in its third weekend of release. The Disney title declined by 52% which was not bad considering it had such direct competition to face with Trek's launch playing to the same adult male action crowd. Marvel's hit 3D threequel has now soared to a domestic cume of $337.1M putting it at number 25 on the list of All-Time Domestic Blockbusters and passing the $336.5M of 2007's Spider-Man 3. Iron Man 3 is still on a trajectory to break the $400M mark.

Overseas, the latest Tony Stark smash remained a key contender collecting an estimated $40.2M, although sales dropped by more than half from last weekend. Iron Man 3's international total climbed to $736.2M propelling the global gross to a towering $1.07 billion on its way to about $1.3 billion. Currently, it sits at number nine among all-time worldwide hits.

The lavish Leonardo DiCaprio drama The Great Gatsby enjoyed another big weekend grossing an estimated $23.4M in third place. The 53% decline was quite respectable considering the weak word-of-mouth, negative reviews, and huge upfront turnout last weekend. After ten days, the Baz Luhrmann film has raked in $90.2M driven by adult women and is already the studio's top-grossing film this year. No third place film has ever grossed this much money on the third weekend of May and Gatsby's success may have chipped away at some of Star Trek's potential. DiCaprio hardly ever does sexy heartthrob roles any more so this rare turn is pulling in audiences despite mixed buzz on the quality of the picture.

Following its debut on Wednesday as the opening night film of the Cannes Film Festival, The Great Gatsby rolled out across international markets and grossed a strong $42.1M from nearly 8,400 screens in 49 territories. Leading the way was Russia with $6.2M followed closely by the U.K. with $6.1M. Major markets still to come include the director's Australia (May 30), Mexico (May 31), Brazil (June 7), and Japan (June 14).

The rest of the top ten was filled with leftovers that attracted small crowds with each grossing in the rough range of $1-3M. Paramount's Pain & Gain dropped 38% to an estimated $3.1M for a cume to date of $46.6M. In its ninth weekend of being the only toon game in town, The Croods slipped only 24% to an estimated $2.8M boosting Fox's total to a robust $176.8M. The cavepeople comedy will finally face competition next weekend with the studio's own release of the animated adventure Epic.

The baseball drama 42 followed with an estimated $2.7M, off 41%, giving Warner Bros. a solid $88.7M. Universal's sci-fi offering Oblivion fell 47% to an estimated $2.2M giving the Tom Cruise film $85.5M so far domestically. International sales are now up to $173M putting the global gross at $258.5M.

Adding some more screens in its fourth weekend was the indie hit Mud which grossed an estimated $2.16M sliding only 15%. Roadside Attractions has collected $11.6M with the rural tale on its way to the vicinity of $20M. The Tyler Perry-produced flop Peeples tumbled 53% in its sophomore round to an estimated $2.15M and a weak $7.9M to date. Rounding out the top ten was another Lionsgate release The Big Wedding with an estimated $1.1M, down 56%, for a $20.2M cume.

The top ten films grossed an estimated $145.3M which was up 9% from last year when The Avengers remained at number one with $55.6M; but down 7% from 2011 when Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides opened in the top spot with $90.2M.

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Comments

Typhon

Typhon Q

I think that the whole thing with the changing release dates screwed Star Trek over. They should have just released it normally on Friday.

May 19 - 03:52 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

and, even though STAR TREK II: THE GENESIS OF KAHN is a 5 out of 5 and Classic Trek its still dimly, faintly, softly, subconsciously thought of as a "Nerd-Movie" . . . it undercuts itself. // Remembering Rachel Corrie (1979 - 2003)

May 19 - 06:21 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Wrath of Khan...Epic fail even for you Gordo.

May 19 - 06:23 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I think that's an actual title for an early leaked draft of "Into Darkness", before they chose to, you know, spoiler.

May 19 - 06:48 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"KAHN" is still kind of a fail though.

May 19 - 06:50 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

I didn't really see the whole point of having him be Kahn. They could've kept his name as John Harrison and he still would've been a great villain.

May 19 - 06:53 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I agree with Typhon 100%. Benedict Cumberbatch was a fantastic John Harrison. The fact the movie Makes a big musical turn when he says his real name is Khan is so stupid. Why would that matter to Kirk and Spock? Why did they look so shocked? Why the hell did they get some one so Ghostly Pale!? I'm clearly not over this yet...

May 19 - 08:23 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Spoiler alert on this conversation for those who haven't seen, but I thought the fact that he was Khan and the audience knew something the cast didn't gave a tension to the movie that far outweighed any complaints about the semantics of the reveal.

May 19 - 10:16 PM

Jim Gronefeld

Jim Gronefeld

That's just Gordon, being Gordon.

May 20 - 11:29 AM

Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman

I completely agree. More than half the people I talked to about it didn't know it came out early.

May 19 - 07:54 PM

ryno23isgod

Nigel Armstrong

How about all of you keep the spoilers to yourselves. The article is about how few people have seen the movie. Should this not be a gigantic RED FLAG?!?

May 19 - 11:22 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

To tell the truth, this particular spoiler has little to no effect on the plot whatsoever.

May 20 - 07:15 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Well, I'm not surprised that Star Trek didn't do well. I predict 35 million next week.

May 19 - 03:53 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Hangover 3 takes no.1
Fast 6 no.2
Star Trek no.3
Iron Man no.4
Gatsby no.5

May 19 - 03:56 PM

Caleb P.

Caleb Paasche

I think Fast 6 will beat the Hangover 3 personally. Although I really don't know why studios put out so many big action movies in May, it really seems like it will end up detracting from their individual grosses.

May 19 - 04:31 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

I agree with Caleb that Fast 6 will beat Hangover. Hangover is coming of a disappointing second movie, and comedy franchises usually don't last very long. Fast 6, on the other hand, still has momentum. Also, I expect Epic will be somewhere in that top 5,probably at number 4, considering it is the first children's/animated film since March.

May 19 - 05:28 PM

Jaxx Raxor

Adam Jones

Fast 6 could still win, but I still feel that Hangover 3 will win because the second movie had a monster opening and did great the sucedding weekends. Yes the professional critics really soured on Hangover II but the target audience still loved it.

Fast and Furious 6 is continuing Fast 5 in becoming a more of general action film compared to more street racing aspects of the first 4 films, but the fan base among teens and young men isn't rabid enough to beat Hangover III with its fanbase of 25 and over men (who also have more money to spend to go to the movies). I also think Hangover III has more hype than Fast and Furious 6.

May 19 - 06:50 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

I guess we'll see, but right now I get the feeling it will preform like Little Fockers did after the financially massive but poorly recieved Meet the Fockers, though the 6 year wait could have contributed to the drop off between the two as well.

May 19 - 07:22 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

I'm with Carlos, Hangover II had a massive opening because The Hangover was so good. Critics weren't the only ones underwhelmed with the weaker second installment.

May 19 - 10:21 PM

King  S.

King Simba

While Hangover 2 may have made more money domestically than Fast Five, it didn't hold on well after that monster opening weekend, while Fast Five managed to have some pretty solid holds despite having to deal with Thor opening right after it. So yeah, I'd say Fast Six is in a much better position than Hangover 3.

May 21 - 01:35 AM

Christopher256G

Christopher Greffin

Fast 6 will destroy Hangover 3 in my estimation. The F&F series is just so proven time and again at the box office, and the last one was generally accepted as the best one to date, while Hangover 2 underwhelmed.

May 20 - 12:10 PM

Killer Jay

Jay Catler

Hangover 3 takes no.1
Fast 6 no.2
Star Trek no.3
Iron Man no.4
Gatsby no.5

May 19 - 03:56 PM

Caleb P.

Caleb Paasche

I think Fast 6 will beat the Hangover 3 personally. Although I really don't know why studios put out so many big action movies in May, it really seems like it will end up detracting from their individual grosses.

May 19 - 04:31 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

I agree with Caleb that Fast 6 will beat Hangover. Hangover is coming of a disappointing second movie, and comedy franchises usually don't last very long. Fast 6, on the other hand, still has momentum. Also, I expect Epic will be somewhere in that top 5,probably at number 4, considering it is the first children's/animated film since March.

May 19 - 05:28 PM

Jaxx Raxor

Adam Jones

Fast 6 could still win, but I still feel that Hangover 3 will win because the second movie had a monster opening and did great the sucedding weekends. Yes the professional critics really soured on Hangover II but the target audience still loved it.

Fast and Furious 6 is continuing Fast 5 in becoming a more of general action film compared to more street racing aspects of the first 4 films, but the fan base among teens and young men isn't rabid enough to beat Hangover III with its fanbase of 25 and over men (who also have more money to spend to go to the movies). I also think Hangover III has more hype than Fast and Furious 6.

May 19 - 06:50 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

I guess we'll see, but right now I get the feeling it will preform like Little Fockers did after the financially massive but poorly recieved Meet the Fockers, though the 6 year wait could have contributed to the drop off between the two as well.

May 19 - 07:22 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

I'm with Carlos, Hangover II had a massive opening because The Hangover was so good. Critics weren't the only ones underwhelmed with the weaker second installment.

May 19 - 10:21 PM

King  S.

King Simba

While Hangover 2 may have made more money domestically than Fast Five, it didn't hold on well after that monster opening weekend, while Fast Five managed to have some pretty solid holds despite having to deal with Thor opening right after it. So yeah, I'd say Fast Six is in a much better position than Hangover 3.

May 21 - 01:35 AM

Christopher256G

Christopher Greffin

Fast 6 will destroy Hangover 3 in my estimation. The F&F series is just so proven time and again at the box office, and the last one was generally accepted as the best one to date, while Hangover 2 underwhelmed.

May 20 - 12:10 PM

Tom B.

Tom Beltran

Im not that surprise I didn't see a tv trailer since 2 weeks previous poor advertisement

May 19 - 03:57 PM

Leo Monteiro

Leo Monteiro

our 9pm showing (2D) had SIX people in the theater

May 19 - 04:18 PM

Caleb P.

Caleb Paasche

I think Fast 6 will beat the Hangover 3 personally. Although I really don't know why studios put out so many big action movies in May, it really seems like it will end up detracting from their individual grosses.

May 19 - 04:31 PM

Francesco F.

Francesco Fortuna

I blame the marketing. Not only did I hardly see any TV spots but, they pretty much gave the whole twist away with Benedict Cumberbatch, it was so obvious. Nonetheless I still loved it, hope it holds up well.

May 19 - 04:37 PM

Alberto Zeeky

Alberto Zeeky

Shame, I've heard nothing but good things about into the darkness. I still have to get around to seeing it, but I hope it shows some legs.

Oh, and how anyone can predict Hangover opening better than Fast 6 is confusing, Fast is at least coming off a very impressive fifth entry, Hangover has to follow up the really dismal second entry. I think after the second entry the public has grown a little less patient with Hangover and will probably have to rely on good word of mouth to really appeal to audiences.

May 19 - 04:53 PM

Caleb P.

Caleb Paasche

Agreed, I think that Fast 6 will probably open about the same as the last one, which grossed about 85 million opening weekend. However, if The Hangover is well reviewed I think that could help it; people saw the second one because they liked the first, but the second was not so well received, so we'll see. I think there is a possibility that The Hangover could bomb.

May 20 - 09:52 AM

Gary Makin

Gary Makin

Apparently, the third weekend in May has seen lower grosses for the past five years. Paramount should?ve known that.

May 19 - 05:02 PM

King  S.

King Simba

Revenge the Sith opened on the third weekend of May and it nearly set the OW record, though of course Star Wars is one of those franchises that could open in January and still make a killing at the box office.

May 21 - 01:38 AM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

I agree with Caleb that Fast 6 will beat Hangover. Hangover is coming of a disappointing second movie, and comedy franchises usually don't last very long. Fast 6, on the other hand, still has momentum. Also, I expect Epic will be somewhere in that top 5,probably at number 4, considering it is the first children's/animated film since March.

May 19 - 05:28 PM

Jaxx Raxor

Adam Jones

Fast 6 could still win, but I still feel that Hangover 3 will win because the second movie had a monster opening and did great the sucedding weekends. Yes the professional critics really soured on Hangover II but the target audience still loved it.

Fast and Furious 6 is continuing Fast 5 in becoming a more of general action film compared to more street racing aspects of the first 4 films, but the fan base among teens and young men isn't rabid enough to beat Hangover III with its fanbase of 25 and over men (who also have more money to spend to go to the movies). I also think Hangover III has more hype than Fast and Furious 6.

May 19 - 06:50 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

I guess we'll see, but right now I get the feeling it will preform like Little Fockers did after the financially massive but poorly recieved Meet the Fockers, though the 6 year wait could have contributed to the drop off between the two as well.

May 19 - 07:22 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

I'm with Carlos, Hangover II had a massive opening because The Hangover was so good. Critics weren't the only ones underwhelmed with the weaker second installment.

May 19 - 10:21 PM

King  S.

King Simba

While Hangover 2 may have made more money domestically than Fast Five, it didn't hold on well after that monster opening weekend, while Fast Five managed to have some pretty solid holds despite having to deal with Thor opening right after it. So yeah, I'd say Fast Six is in a much better position than Hangover 3.

May 21 - 01:35 AM

CrazyOkie

Doug Reed

I know I'm not to blame! I went to see it. Lots of people I knew either saw it or are planning to see it. Just out of curiosity, how do mid-May movies typically do? I'm wondering if it's hitting too close to high school proms and finals, thereby dropping its target audience.

Nevertheless, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I hope JJ & the cast come back for a third movie!

May 19 - 05:47 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

I think the explanation might be a loss of Trekkie's. JJ did a really good job rebooting the franchise, but this is definately not your father's Star Trek and a lot of what old school Trekkie's loved so much about it is gone.

May 19 - 05:53 PM

Carlos Flores

Carlos Flores

I could see that being a small part of it, but I think most Trekkie's continue see these movies even if they disappoint them, like most Star Wars fans continued to go see the prequels even as they continued to disappoint them . I'd say it has to do with to much competition from movies like Iron Man 3 and Fast 6 next week that are more likely to pull in the general audience who just want a big action flick.

May 19 - 07:27 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

I'm not so sure, I have a lot of Trekkie friend who considered the new Star Trek borderline blasphemous and while the lunatic fringe may seem limited in their effect, that effect is compounded when you take into account most of those lunatics saw Wrath of Khan, The Undiscovered Country and First Contact 4 or 5 times apiece the first weekend.

May 19 - 10:55 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

Lunatics...Blame it on the moon, buddy.

May 19 - 11:16 PM

Review F.

Review Fiend

We'll they'll have to adapt. The new franchise get the most out of it as far as I'm concerned

May 30 - 12:50 PM

King  S.

King Simba

Oh, I'm sure most trekkies went to see it. No offense, but Trekkies are like Star Wars fans, they're a very dedicated fanbase and even though they may complain again and again how the new films suck, they'll still show up to see the next one.

As Matthew point out, it's non-Trekkies the film needed to appeal to, and unfortunately the long wait between Star Trek and Into Darkness meant that a lot of new fans the reboot made probably moved on. They needed to strike while the iron was hot before Star Trek went back to its reputation as a nerds-only franchise (And shows like Big Bang Theory certainly helped enforcing that notion).

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad that they took their time, but from a box office perspective four years is usually too long a wait unless it's something like Batman or Star Wars.

May 21 - 02:02 AM

Rickie Lopp

Rickie Lopp

Haven't seen yet but planning this Friday I personally think this movie will have legs despite the competition

May 19 - 05:57 PM

Kathleen Newman

Kathleen Newman

A pathetic imitation of the original series.

May 19 - 05:57 PM

Patrick Bateman

Patrick Bateman

I actually have enjoyed the remakes. They're not as good as some of the originals (Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan), but I feel that they're still strong.

May 19 - 07:51 PM

Kurtiss Keefner

Kurtiss Keefner

They aren't trying to "imitate" the original series. They are trying to reinvent Star Trek as a whole. It may not be for everybody - including diehard trekkies, such as you and I - but as long as it keeps the franchise going I'm more than happy.

May 19 - 09:01 PM

Katherine Harley-White

Katherine Harley-White

If they are trying to "reinvent Star Trek," then they should use new stories and not ride on the back of old material. For someone who has been a fan of Star Trek, not necessarily a trekkie, I was very disappointed. Can't the writers come up with something original!? And, if they are going to use characters from the original series they should at least keep true to them. I was very disappointed in their choice of actor they selected for the villain. Also, for the most part the original Star Trek series was a serious sci-fi drama, not a comedy of one-liners mocking the original characters.

May 20 - 11:22 AM

Valmordas

Val Mordas

This is Holly we're talking about. Why invent new villians when you can use old ones.

May 20 - 11:52 AM

Katherine Harley-White

Katherine Harley-White

Oh, I forgot, Hollywood is just in it for the money, not provide great entertainment!

May 20 - 12:41 PM

Stewart Hoffman

Stewart Hoffman

I agree with you. Though I think Cumberbatch was a great choice of actor, they just gave him the wrong part. Huge missed opportunity there as he could have easily played the part of a classic Trek villan.

May 20 - 04:42 PM

Evan Ockershausen

Evan Ockershausen

If they aren't trying to imitate Star Trek, they probably shouldn't take their climax, word for word, from a previous film. Your argument kind of falls apart when they do that.

May 20 - 12:20 PM

Katherine Harley-White

Katherine Harley-White

I would rather see the "franchise" die rather than them making sub par films.

May 20 - 12:44 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

and, even though STAR TREK II: THE GENESIS OF KAHN is a 5 out of 5 and Classic Trek its still dimly, faintly, softly, subconsciously thought of as a "Nerd-Movie" . . . it undercuts itself. // Remembering Rachel Corrie (1979 - 2003)

May 19 - 06:21 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Wrath of Khan...Epic fail even for you Gordo.

May 19 - 06:23 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I think that's an actual title for an early leaked draft of "Into Darkness", before they chose to, you know, spoiler.

May 19 - 06:48 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"KAHN" is still kind of a fail though.

May 19 - 06:50 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

I didn't really see the whole point of having him be Kahn. They could've kept his name as John Harrison and he still would've been a great villain.

May 19 - 06:53 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I agree with Typhon 100%. Benedict Cumberbatch was a fantastic John Harrison. The fact the movie Makes a big musical turn when he says his real name is Khan is so stupid. Why would that matter to Kirk and Spock? Why did they look so shocked? Why the hell did they get some one so Ghostly Pale!? I'm clearly not over this yet...

May 19 - 08:23 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Spoiler alert on this conversation for those who haven't seen, but I thought the fact that he was Khan and the audience knew something the cast didn't gave a tension to the movie that far outweighed any complaints about the semantics of the reveal.

May 19 - 10:16 PM

Jim Gronefeld

Jim Gronefeld

That's just Gordon, being Gordon.

May 20 - 11:29 AM

Gary Reid

Gary Reid

It was good. Hopefully it will pick up the slack next weekend, against Hangover 3 and Fast 6 we'll see what happens. Overseas should back the support.

May 19 - 06:21 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Wrath of Khan...Epic fail even for you Gordo.

May 19 - 06:23 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I think that's an actual title for an early leaked draft of "Into Darkness", before they chose to, you know, spoiler.

May 19 - 06:48 PM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

"KAHN" is still kind of a fail though.

May 19 - 06:50 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

I didn't really see the whole point of having him be Kahn. They could've kept his name as John Harrison and he still would've been a great villain.

May 19 - 06:53 PM

Brad and Netflix

Bradly Martin

I agree with Typhon 100%. Benedict Cumberbatch was a fantastic John Harrison. The fact the movie Makes a big musical turn when he says his real name is Khan is so stupid. Why would that matter to Kirk and Spock? Why did they look so shocked? Why the hell did they get some one so Ghostly Pale!? I'm clearly not over this yet...

May 19 - 08:23 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Spoiler alert on this conversation for those who haven't seen, but I thought the fact that he was Khan and the audience knew something the cast didn't gave a tension to the movie that far outweighed any complaints about the semantics of the reveal.

May 19 - 10:16 PM

Jim Gronefeld

Jim Gronefeld

That's just Gordon, being Gordon.

May 20 - 11:29 AM

Janson Jinnistan

Janson Jinnistan

I think that's an actual title for an early leaked draft of "Into Darkness", before they chose to, you know, spoiler.

May 19 - 06:48 PM

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Horror spin-off of The Conjuring

Laggies Trailer
Laggies Trailer

Keira Knightley is a responsible rebel

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