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I'm conflicted. On one hand I admire many of Zimmers previous projects (Lion King, Gladiator, Dark Knight Trilogy, Sherlock Holmes, Inception); but on the other hand it's kind of hard to imagine a Superman movie WITHOUT the Superman theme by John Williams. It's kind of like trying to imagine a different James Bond theme, Mission Impossible theme, or even Indiana Jones. What gives me hope though is Zimmers apparent humility towards his privilege to follow a legend; it seems his going to give his absolute best and see what happens. Because of his track record, I'm willing to believe he will give us a worthy presentation to complement the big screen return of the Last Son of Krypton. Can't wait!
Jul 12 - 11:12 AM
No no no. John Williams is legend. His soundtracks are the pride and joy of my mp3 collection. Hans Zimmer is great. Gladiator and Batman Begins are among my favorite soundtracks too. Of this I think we and most would agree.... ...But I wouldn't expect the John Williams Superman theme to be in Man of Steel, any more than I'd expect Danny Elfman's Batman theme to be in The Dark Knight. The very notion that this should be done is as limited thinking as I've ever heard.
Jul 13 - 08:37 AM
It would make more sense for him to concentrate on creating motifs from the circumstances and supporters in Superman's adventure, and then wrap it up cohesively as an overture that serves as Superman's theme. That would bespeak more of his experiences rather than a frontloaded assumption of heroism.
Jul 12 - 03:50 PM
I dont want the old score in the new film. John Williams did his thing on Donners first film. Let it go.
Jul 12 - 06:38 PM
He's not going to create something better than Williams theme which has been used in every Superman incarnation since. Like someone else said it's like trying to do a new Indy or Bond theme. Even if you do something great it's not going to ever be known as "Superman's theme" because that titles already been claimed and established...so why not just use the classic theme with all it's built up weight and nostalgia and recognizability. No one associates the theme with Donner's superman anymore than they associate the Bond theme with say "You Only Live Twice" they associate it with the character. I suspect whatever Zimmer comes up with is just going to sound odd to my ears like listening to a remake of a song which is never as good as the original you first heard.
Jul 12 - 10:01 PM
No no no. John Williams is legend. His soundtracks are the pride and joy of my mp3 collection. Hans Zimmer is great. Gladiator and Batman Begins are among my favorite soundtracks too. Of this I think we and most would agree.... ...But I wouldn't expect the John Williams Superman theme to be in Man of Steel, any more than I'd expect Danny Elfman's Batman theme to be in The Dark Knight. This looks to be a very different version of Superman. The thinking that the Williams' theme would just fit right into this movie is a stretch, to say the least.
Jul 13 - 08:40 AM
Big brother said it best; we equate John Williams' theme to the character of Superman, not Richard Donner's or Bryan Singer's vision of him. Even as the directors and actors involved in the Bond series has changed.over time, the THEMATIC music has remained. But dont get me wrong; I'm not claiming that Zimmer is incapable of creating a great piece...I hope he does.
Jul 13 - 12:13 PM
Makes me wonder how Hallmark will respond with synergy. Everytime I open a Superman themed soundcard, the Williams theme plays. EH. VEH. REE. TIME.
Jul 13 - 03:04 PM
I could think of about 2 dozen ways to use that theme without even trying regardless of what type of movie you're making. It's like the Jaws theme, if you want to instill rousing excitement you play it with Superman delivering a colossal blow from off camera, flying at light speed to the rescue or even the classic shirt rip to reveal the "S". If you're going more dark like it looks the new movie is you play it slowed down as Supes falls in slow motion (We all know how Snyder hates to use slow motion right:)). That's the beauty of the Superman theme by Williams it's so utilitarian and as I said has been used so many times it's as much a part of the character as Clark's glasses, Lois's inability to spell or the cape and "S" itself. If Snyder can't figure out a way to use that to make the movie better he's not much of a director.
Also, since you mentioned Batman and as much as I love Elfman his Batman theme isn't as Iconic as the Williams Superman theme it WAS used again to great effect in Batman the Animated Series. I just think if you've got an ace on your staff and you bring up a prospect just to see if he's better more often than not you're going to be disappointed. You know me, if Zimmer comes up with a rousing triumph that everybody loves I'll be the first one to say "My bad, I was flat out wrong". I just don't think that's the case and I really want this movie to succeed and I don't see this decision helping out at that. I'm actually starting to get a bad feel for the whole project. Zac Snyder as director doesn't have the same gloss coming off of Sucker Punch as he did off Watchmen and 300. Henry Cavill didn't exactly light the world afire with Immortals, Nolan seems to be withdrawing from the project and DC in general and all this talk of a JLA movie post Avengers is really harshing my DC/Warner Bros. buzz.
Jul 13 - 06:36 PM
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