ROTTEN TOMATOES: Superman: Man of Steel To Have Two Villains? Comments

Superman: Man of Steel To Have Two Villains?

by Jeff Giles | August 06, 2007

Summary

On the grand continuum of movie rumors, this item falls somewhere between a conversation half-overheard at a restaurant and something a dude you know heard from this one guy, but it concerns the breathlessly debated Superman Returns sequel, so we can't very well not report it, can we? Back to Article

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CenoBiteMe2000 writes:
on Aug 06 2007 12:39 PM

WB screwed the pooch with "Returns." Anarexic Lois, wooden Clark and unnecessary Superkid. Should have migrated Smallville to the big screen and given Rosenbaum and Welling the space they need for bigger performances. Or, better yet, not made SR at all.

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Merlin235 writes:
on Aug 06 2007 12:48 PM

I hope they use the next movie to explain how the kid isn't really Superman's illegitimate child. It's kinda lame having a role model for kids going around impregnating women. To me, that was the largest failing of Superman Returns

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rgallitan writes:
on Aug 06 2007 12:51 PM

On behalf of Superman Returns haters everywhere, let me just clarify that the problem wasn't too much character development instead of action. The problem was REALLY BAD character development. We take a mopey, emotionally-stunted Supes, pit him up against the single most boring conception of Lois Lane the human mind can devise, and make them walk through paces of "character development" that consist of some standard-issue TV drama bickering, a dash of teenage angst, and a shamelessly predictable genealogical twist.

X-Men had vastly better character development than this. Better by orders of magnitude. AND it had time for action. Spiderman too. And Batman Begins. It's kindof funny, actually. Donner's Superman got pretty much everything right except for Luthor's tupee. Singer's Superman got pretty much everything wrong... except for Luthor's tupee.

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invert48 writes:
on Aug 06 2007 12:57 PM

hulk would rock superman in a fight

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Rock_The_Luau writes:
on Aug 06 2007 12:57 PM

Superman Returns was really quick to become the "cool movie for snobs to hate on", huh? Jesus...

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DarthWonka writes:
on Aug 06 2007 01:02 PM

In reply to this comment (#1015991)
This is correct.

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gamejediben writes:
on Aug 06 2007 01:35 PM

Returns left me desperate for a sequel. Which is what a good franchise should do. There were so many unaswered questions - but I knew that Singer had a plan for our oldest and most revered superhero. SR wasn't the best comic book movie I ever saw (Batman Begins holds that crown) but it laid the groundwork for an epic story to come. I think we can all agree that X2 was leaps and bounds better than X-men. I think Singer is gonna knock this outta the park with a sequel. I don't want a "spiderman" type movie where the villians are more important than the hero. Superman deserves better than that.

Personally I hope Singer brings in Darkseid because we could have a situation where Supes is forced to give up his son as an offering to Darkseid. But of course Darkseid is a liar and atacks earth anyway and then we could see Supes go one on one with Darksed - a true "battle of the Gods" type showdown. But I could see Brainiac as a cool villain as well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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mouse_clicker writes:
on Aug 06 2007 01:44 PM

Here's hoping for the two villains being Darkseid and Braniac!

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Sora Freak writes:
on Aug 06 2007 01:46 PM

Can't wait for this movie

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aknddon3 writes:
on Aug 06 2007 03:14 PM

Kill the kid then the movie might be okay. OR pull a dallas and have Superman Returns just be a dream of Clarks and have a real movie take its place.

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cgcbooks writes:
on Aug 06 2007 03:52 PM

In reply to this comment (#1016441)
Or we could all pretend that you never really existed aknddon3.

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dylan21484nj writes:
on Aug 06 2007 04:27 PM

we know Spacey's gonna be back, so that's one villain. hopefully the other villain is Darkseid, relegating Luthor to minor villain status as opposed to him being the main baddie yet again.

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sickofitall writes:
on Aug 06 2007 04:42 PM

In reply to this comment (#1015474)
pathetic troll go die

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CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe writes:
on Aug 06 2007 05:14 PM

god, what is wrong with you people, superman returns did not suck in the least.

yes, it was no masterpiece but there was alot more things to take away that are

positive than negative. Thank God for people like BigBrother who see how wonderful

singer's film was. trust me, folks, i'm not the biggest fan of this movie such as

the kid, the suit, or lois acting. And would i like to see more action sure but when

superman was beaten there so brutally, and how lex(thanks to the brilliant mr. spacey)

truly took evil to the next level;with his stabing of superman there in the end. i know

it wasn't great not to have all the great banter between lex and kal-el or not enough

clark scenes or not enough of supes just showing how super he can be.but i still believe

in singer that he can make the needed corrections. and don't forgety folks the most

important things when it comes with directors and comic book movies: THE SEQUELS

ALWAYS OUTCLASS THE ORIGINALS AND ARE THE ONES WE CHERISH THE MOST. IN SHORT, THESE ARE

THE ONES THAT PROVE THE DIRECTOR'S CHOPS! Look at all the examples proving my

undisputable fact: Superman 2, x-men 2, spiderman 2, batman returns, fantstic four 2,

and i bet that will include also dark knight and the incredible hulk. now i am not

saying all these movies were great but all them show directors more comfortable with

their work allowing them to create the best movies of their respective franchises no

matter how dismal (Fantastic four, the initial batman run) or amazing(Spiderman,

superman, x-men). hey, when you look at spidey 2 or x2 doesn't everyone realize how

SIGNIFICENTLY BETTER THOSE SEQUELS WERE TO THEIR ORIGINALS?! And those franchises

had good originals but raimi amd singer took it to a whole another level with second

installments. even tim burton said how he was more ready to handle the batman franchise

in the sequel and even though some may disagree on that sequel superiority to burton's

first batman; the sequel is said to be better 80% to 72% on this site. Even tim story

did a slight better job on his all time bomb in the original fantastic four with

just a bad movie this year. Note: the one expection to my rule is ironically

superman II(not even the donner cut) not being better than the original according to

this site. So what have we learned children? Never ever condemn a director after his

initial film on a superhero movie because almost all the time the sequel is remembered

and reviewed beter. so fear not the sequel will take what i believe was a: SO-SO 3 STAR

MOVI IN SUPERMAN RETURNS AND it will become a sequel that will top singer previous

sequel X-MEN 2, which was basically three and half movie, and so i say it will be!

No I'm not Zod but frankly just a couch tomaato who notice these things and will keep

seeing how i'm right with the upcoming sequels in 2008 for Bats and hulk! So, for

the last time don't condemn singer until he gets to paints his true masterpiece and

who knows every director, i believe has 2 good movies in them at least, so

maybe singer will be the first to make a great third movie! i hope so! and that should

be with darkseid! as for this initial news, i believe it will be brainiac and luthor

but don't worry i'm pretty sure brainic can give clark enopugh stuff to smash for you

whining experts out there. so be patient and youy will believ a singer movie will fly

better than any movie we ever seen.

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Product_of_You writes:
on Aug 06 2007 05:26 PM

I dunno guys, I came away from Superman Returns with a smile on my face. I really enjoyed it. And I just watched the original Superman movie for the first time since I was a child and was very unimpressed with it. There were so many things in that film that were completely ridiuclous and made you want to cover your eyes; that however wasn't the case for me with Returns. So yeah, as unpopular as it might be I think Returns is better than the original Superman film.

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South_park300 writes:
on Aug 06 2007 05:28 PM

i really did not like superman returns, but i think will give a sequel a chance. i really DO wanna see superman actually fight someone...and you know, be super?

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Uradik Smoke writes:
on Aug 06 2007 08:14 PM

In reply to this comment (#1016612)
Here is the problems with Superman Returns ...

Its not that the movie didnt look good , or even that the acting was horrible cuz i really liked Routh as Superman , I dont disagree Singer has an eye for shooting a movie and shooting big huge scenes . I liked the look of the movie and how polished it was...

The problem with Superman Returns was the writing, script, plot , backstory and how they butchered what it means to be Superman .

Firstly - The back story to why he left into space and how he went about it was kinda shady and just really grasping at straws to explain why he is returning . Lame

Secondly - The Lex Luthor plot to grow new land using kryptonian crystals ??? WTF!!! like for real you can say that you thought that was a good plan for a arch villian ? It was just another lame plot line that ruined the movie ...

Thirdly- I understand they wanted to make Superman seem vunerable and more human , but to have him in a hospital in a coma ??? He has never been in the hospital , he reacts to Kryptonite and is weakened and can be killed by it . As soon as the Kryptonite was gone . The sun would recharge his powers and he would be fine . Not in a damn ICU for days...

Fourthly - SUPERMAN DOES NOT HAVE A KID !!! No to mention he is now Supermans bastard child . What a stupid idea . I knew as soon as i saw the kid it would be Supermans and i was livid . Take the kid out of the film and what does it hurt , NOT A THING . It was a bad idea and just doesnt stay the course of who Superman is .This jus means the kid stuff will come out in a sequel and clog up the movie with explanations and the kids powers ...

In a perfect world someone at Warner Bros would have realised the series needed to start over from scratch like Batman did . Explain who he is , why he is on earth and introduce him to everyone again properly . Not make the movie that is a non sequel /sort of sequel , oh wait i mean a Return ...

I am a huge fan of Superman and how he has been portrayed in the past and I think to many liberties were taken with his character and what being Superman is all about. It was raped and pillaged by the studio and by Singer to make it marketable to a larger audience and it is a shame they got away with it ...

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Sora Freak writes:
on Aug 06 2007 08:52 PM

Give the sequel a chance man

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AmazingAndrex writes:
on Aug 06 2007 09:08 PM

In reply to this comment (#1015712)
"Think about it, after Spidey 1 everyone focused on the new villains and Spidey himself was left in the dust. Same thing with Dark Knight. We've seen one piece of news on Bats himself and the rest about the Joker."

Don't you even dare.

The only reason I like Spider-Man 2 is because of Peter and his ongoing plots.

And don't you DARE pull that sh** with The Dark Knight. Batman Begins was ALL about Bruce and Batman, and Nolan has stated many times that it will stay that way with the rest of the series. That's why it was called "The Dark Knight".

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Atomix writes:
on Aug 06 2007 09:24 PM

I'm hoping for Brainiac or Metallo. I'll settle for Parasite and/or Bizarro but I think they should be further down the road a few movies.

The only villain I'm not looking forward to is General Zod. Like Luthor, he's been there - done that.

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