ROTTEN TOMATOES: Superman: Man of Steel To Have Two Villains? Comments

Superman: Man of Steel To Have Two Villains?

by Jeff Giles | August 06, 2007

Summary

On the grand continuum of movie rumors, this item falls somewhere between a conversation half-overheard at a restaurant and something a dude you know heard from this one guy, but it concerns the breathlessly debated Superman Returns sequel, so we can't very well not report it, can we? Back to Article

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TombstoneLawDog writes:
on Aug 10 2007 12:35 PM

Remember when Uwe Bolle was offering money to fight his critics (which made me just about wet myself with laughter-- way to feel secure in your product, director-man!)?

That made me think after reading the 100th post on this topic; I think we should start making a collection to see Bigbrother and Aknddon3 meet and fight. I have nothing against either (though I tend to agree with BB rather than A), but it just seems like you guys are arch-nemeses who need to resolve your issues in the purity of bloody mortal kombat on a moon-lit beach somwhere in Asia with an evil overlord sitting in a chair made of human skulls, laughing about the fate of our world while being fed grapes by native, half-naked Jessica Alba's.

..Or I'm just wigging out on caffiene as I read this string. Just as likely.

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Mr. Boffo writes:
on Aug 10 2007 02:28 PM

It'd be nice to add something fresh and new. Scrap Lex Luthor for crying out loud. How many times do we need to see him in a Superman movie!?!?! I like the idea of Darkseid and company. Something original and exciting.

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Uradik Smoke writes:
on Aug 10 2007 07:44 PM

In reply to this comment (#1027250)
I am just voiceing the other point of view as someone who is a huge Superman fan and was terribly disappointed in Superman Returns and how it was done and i have explained why , this is simply my opinion , But people on here are throwing numbers around and trying to use them for arguments sake ...

I was also giving you some facts about how successful a movie is , now you are right in the fact that you would have to take into account many different things to determine if a movie is successful or not . But since the standard in this debate seemed to be Gross Revenue i was just merely stating the facts about how Superman Returns would not be classified as a large finacial success when compared to other movies of similar budgets. I am just trying to show the other side of things so everyone has the facts ...

So here are the Numbers for similar movies ( These are strictly Production Budget and Total world gross . No Marketing Costs or Dvd sales/rentals )

Cost WW Revenue Gross Profit
Spider Man 2 200 mil 784 mil 584 Mil
Spider Man 3 258 mil 889 mil 631 Mil
X-men 3 210 Mil 459 Mil 249 Mil
Pirates 2 225 Mil 1 Bil 775 Mil
Pirates 3 300 Mil 954 Mil 654 mil
Transformers 147 Mil 594 Mil * 447 Mil * To date
Batman Begins 150 Mil 411 Mil 261 Mil

Superman Returns 271 Mil 391 Mil 120 Mil

So like I am saying when compared to the other movies of the same production magnitude SR could be seen as not a hugely sucessful film ( Partially due to the fact the budget jumped nearly 50 Million than planned ) . As you can see Transformers and Batman Begins which were both The first movie in new Franchises as Superman Returns was generated much more total gross .

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hunch51984 writes:
on Aug 10 2007 10:48 PM

im seriously hoping its either Braniac, Bizzaro, or Metallo that would be a great fight to see on the big screen.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Aug 11 2007 03:10 AM

Huh, i am 6'2 220, i would whoop his ***, he was a skinny *****, he has no muscles and looks like superboy. Find me one comic where superman does not have muscles.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Aug 11 2007 08:43 AM

In reply to this comment (#1028584)
He had muscles. And I doubt 10 year olds are 6'2 and weigh 220.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Aug 11 2007 01:47 PM

In reply to this comment (#1027772)
You do have a good, if O'Reilly-esque point. There are also alot of big budget films made that didn't gross anything at all. I think one of the main reasons SR's was such a relative BO failure is because unlike most of the other big budget movies you mentioned it didn't compromise itself to be audience pleasing. It set out to be a smart, dialog and character driven homage to a classic character, while at the same time offering a new take with potentially dangerous character advancements(i.e. illegitimate child) (Super-sex). It blatantly flew in the face of many idea's as to how to make a successful comic book movie, namely give people all action, big distracting explosions and the same old crap we supposedly progressive thinking comic book nerds have grown comfortable with over the last 50 years. I can understand why you and aknddon were disappointed, but my opinion is that Singer should be commended for giving us what we always claim we want, something different. Good debate though, I've enjoyed this.

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Bigbrother writes:
on Aug 11 2007 01:51 PM

In reply to this comment (#1029380)
That would actually make a lot of sense if you think about it. Aknddon is actually Barry Bonds and he's the way he is because he's taking out his fury on the public that's scorned him as well as overcompensating for his steroid shrunken little Barry. :).

Seriously Aknddon, these rants used to be funny, but get some new material or at least go out and find a new movie to hate. How about some more Knocked Up schtick that's still comparitively fresh I guess. I don't want you to become the Gallagher of this site and still be splattering the Superman Returns watermelon and the "I own you" cantalope on us 10 years from now.

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Uradik Smoke writes:
on Aug 11 2007 05:53 PM

I have enjoyed the debae aswell , alot more once it became a debate rather than an opionless brawl of *****ed out words ...

I am not sure if you can say all mega budget movies are comprimised and SR was not , we will honestly never know what got cut and what didnt by the studio or by Singer and the same can be said about all of the above movies i mentioned.

I have agreeed to disagree , you and others liked what Singer did with the story , I was disappointed by the plot and the direction it was taken in . Honestly i was just so blown aay by how well Batman was redone that i really had high hopes for something similar with Superman , though not being he same as Batman was prolly important aswell to Singer and WB ...

I am hopful that the sequel will be successful and change my mind about thi vision of Superman ...

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Uradik Smoke writes:
on Aug 11 2007 06:01 PM

I would like to take this moment to renounce my support of Aknddon ...

I tried to be on your side for a bit and stand by my opinion that SR was not a good movie , but you seriously have no idea what you are talking about now . You are arguing over the amount of muscle Superman has in the movie than what appears in comics ??? Comics are drawn and are not real people and in every comic book the characters proportions and muscles are exagerated to make them appear more like a hero and more fictional ...

You have no point with this argumant , and you are wrong . Give up dude ...

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Aug 11 2007 06:14 PM

Good man. I apologize for calling you a mother****in' douchebag.

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gamejediben writes:
on Aug 11 2007 09:36 PM

And I apologize for calling you a marvel fanboy...

No matter what we thought of the movie, we can all agree akknddon3 is a dumbass.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Aug 11 2007 10:17 PM

I love how aknddon never posts when I'm on.

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CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe writes:
on Aug 11 2007 10:34 PM

In reply to this comment (#1030720)
now that scientific law, gamejediben! and i hope we will always get along

and make sure we stay united in our fight to defeat the offensive and "Wrrrooonggg"

opinions of aknddon from this great site!

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CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe writes:
on Aug 11 2007 10:44 PM

In reply to this comment (#1030770)
BATSPIDEYKONG, great point and what a surprise that aknddon would do such a thing.

Not really actually because people like Aknddon are bullies who always fight when no

one looking or picking on the weak- like any pathetic coward. But when they have to

deal with the pressure of having to deal with the proud, cool, noble and brave

commentors, like us, fight back, guess what? he runs and hides in his hole until the

the righteous go back to their wonderful lives, of course he wouldn't know. So, to

quote a new movie line reference, for a change, from "the warriors": "Akddon 3, come out

and playie yay!!!" we are ready to kick your, from "forrest gump", "butt-tocks!"

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Aug 12 2007 09:32 AM

In reply to this comment (#1030816)
Exactly. He calls people 'little stupid loser virgin nerds' and then logs off. It's like a ***** throwing a rock at a group of people and then booking it 2 seconds later.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Aug 12 2007 12:15 PM

Hahahahahahahahahaha, so i am a coward because i have to work and i cannot be online everyday? Man you DC fluffers are ****ing retarded.

Okay lets use some common sense, Spiderman is drawn like an average man, so thus they get an average man to play him. Punisher the same thing, Batman is bigger so they get a man who is bigger muscle wise, yet Superman who is supposed to be the strongest and has muscles they get a weak little ***** that has no muscles, how does that make sense? Hell Christian Bale is a better fit for Superman that Routh.

So once again i am correct and all of you losers are wrong, now name a time when i was wrong. Oh wait you cant.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Aug 12 2007 12:36 PM

What's your job? Prostitution? I'm sure you have a lot of fun with that, especially when the fags come around. And Routh has muscles. Just because he doesn't have 8 inch arms doesn't make him a weak little *****.

Aknddon, do you realize you are so hated that even SR haters are starting to hate you? But, of course, I guess that's the only goal stupid trolls like you have.

You need to stop thinking highly of yourself. You think you're some brilliant, perfect genius that has never said anything wrong in your life. It just pisses people off. Oh wait, again, that's the only thing trolls like you enjoy doing.

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aknddon3 writes:
on Aug 12 2007 02:59 PM

Oh the DC fluffer is mad now. No he has no muscles and no deffinition thus a horriable superman, hell even the Smallville Clark has muscles and deffinition to those muscles.

Troll? No you and your buddies are trolls, i am not a troll.

Again i have yet to be wrong so i will continue to be the smartest person here.

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Mr. Kong writes:
on Aug 12 2007 03:00 PM

BTW, you were wrong when you said nobody was dissapointed with the big 3 and when you said EVERYBODY think Katherine Heigl's ugly.

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