Superman: Man of Steel To Have Two Villains?
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On the grand continuum of movie rumors, this item falls somewhere between a conversation half-overheard at a restaurant and something a dude you know heard from this one guy, but it concerns the breathlessly debated Superman Returns sequel, so we can't very well not report it, can we? Back to Article
On the grand continuum of movie rumors, this item falls somewhere between a conversation half-overheard at a restaurant and something a dude you know heard from this one guy, but it concerns the breathlessly debated Superman Returns sequel, so we can't very well not report it, can we? Back to Article
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on Aug 06 2007 04:27 AM I don't see how they could possibly get a big special effects movie out in two years that apparently no one has even started working on yet. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 04:42 AM Transformers took under a year (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 06:51 AM As long as Luthor isn't a main villain again. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 08:12 AM Well we know Luthor is back, so I guess that's villain #1, but who could be villain #2? Hopefully someone for Superman to fight. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 08:25 AM "(In true fan-community fashion, the poster's fellow members immediately ripped him and each other to bloody shreds; more than a dozen pages of bickering follow the initial post.)" Best news ever. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 08:37 AM What? Fans bickering and tearing into each other? Unheard of! (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 08:42 AM Who gives a rat's ***? This movie will suck, as did Superman Returns. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 08:59 AM I hope Luthor creates either Brainiac from some of the Kryptonian tech he got from the Fortress of Solitude OR he creates Bizarro from some of Supes' blood that he got from the Kryptonite dagger. Either one would be fine in my book. And coax Brandon into showing a little more personality. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 09:02 AM i could give to sheznits really, superman is dead in my eyes ever since he had a son in superman returns that really made me want to hurt hollywood. if anything should be darksied and doomsday. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 09:05 AM Darksied better be one of those villains... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 09:09 AM Would they just come on wit the damn superman project. I mean Superman Returns sucked, so i am curious to see if they are going to make this one better. and Lex is getting kind of old. Get someone i can see superman smash through a building. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 09:41 AM Why won't this project die? Marvel has the right idea; Hulk sucked, so they're retooling the franchise. WB should do the same. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 09:52 AM Two huh? I wonder how Parker Posey will be able to defeat both of them them. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 09:54 AM Luthor summons DOOMSDAY!!!! SUPERMAN'S DEAD!!!! (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 10:08 AM There could be 10 villians and this will still suck just like Superman Returns did . They already killed Superman with that hack of a last movie . Knowing Singer and crews ability to write a script the villians will be the illegitamit offspring of Lex Luthor and Doomsday after they had a one night stand some years back followed by a long un-explained absence in space by Doomsday . The little half breeds will have Doomsday powers and Lexs bald head and wreck havok down on Superman and his bastard child...SUPERMAN WAS ALREADY KILLED BY HOLLYWOOD ... (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 10:20 AM It will be either Metallo or Brainiac. Mark my words. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 10:35 AM Uh guys, there's three choices for the new villain that involve Luthor. You can have Metallo as Luthor's creation trying to destroy Superman with his Kryptonite heart, Bizzaro (who I would LOVE to see on the big screen) created by Luthor trying to destroy Superman because Luthor says so, or Doomsday created by Luthor trying to destroy Superman because he's Doomsday. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 10:42 AM And FYI, just because Returns didn't have a big slugfest doesn't mean it wasn't good. I thought it was refreshing to see a super hero movie focus on character development instead of the villain the hero is fighting. Think about it, after Spidey 1 everyone focused on the new villains and Spidey himself was left in the dust. Same thing with Dark Knight. We've seen one piece of news on Bats himself and the rest about the Joker. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 10:43 AM In reply to this comment (#1015662) Damn people always complain when they get all action films that have ridiculous plots and not enough development. Singer finally gives you one and all you can do is ***** about how he had a kid who as movie kids go wasn't that terrible an actor. He wasn't nearly as bad as young Anakin in Phantom Menace. Many of you wanted a Superman who had vulnerabilities and wasn't so perfect no one could challenge him. That's what you got a Superman who makes mistakes and can be fooled. Yes, the movie could have had more action, but it's the first movie of a trilogy. Maybe Singer was just getting the back story out of the way so he can go big in the sequal without shortchanging the characters? and what is the BS about Singer not being able to deliver a story? As far as I can tell you're judging the man's entire career off of Superman Returns which you apparently didn't like. The Usual Suspect, there was a terrible story huh yeah the script really sucked on that piece of crap. The Apt Pupil, terrible. X-men and X-men2, Brett Ratner really outshone those two disappointments. Oh yeah, and the absence in space wasn't unexplained. At the very beginning of Returns he explains that he had to make sure Krypton was destroyed. Anyone who's ever lost a relative or something of value knows, you don't really believe it until you see the proof yourself. That's a pretty good explanation to me. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 11:29 AM They should have stopped after Donner's Superman: The Movie, an excellent comic book movie that only the first Spider-Man has equalled. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 12:39 PM WB screwed the pooch with "Returns." Anarexic Lois, wooden Clark and unnecessary Superkid. Should have migrated Smallville to the big screen and given Rosenbaum and Welling the space they need for bigger performances. Or, better yet, not made SR at all. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 12:48 PM I hope they use the next movie to explain how the kid isn't really Superman's illegitimate child. It's kinda lame having a role model for kids going around impregnating women. To me, that was the largest failing of Superman Returns (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 12:51 PM On behalf of Superman Returns haters everywhere, let me just clarify that the problem wasn't too much character development instead of action. The problem was REALLY BAD character development. We take a mopey, emotionally-stunted Supes, pit him up against the single most boring conception of Lois Lane the human mind can devise, and make them walk through paces of "character development" that consist of some standard-issue TV drama bickering, a dash of teenage angst, and a shamelessly predictable genealogical twist. X-Men had vastly better character development than this. Better by orders of magnitude. AND it had time for action. Spiderman too. And Batman Begins. It's kindof funny, actually. Donner's Superman got pretty much everything right except for Luthor's tupee. Singer's Superman got pretty much everything wrong... except for Luthor's tupee. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 12:57 PM hulk would rock superman in a fight (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 12:57 PM Superman Returns was really quick to become the "cool movie for snobs to hate on", huh? Jesus... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 01:02 PM In reply to this comment (#1015991) This is correct. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 01:35 PM Returns left me desperate for a sequel. Which is what a good franchise should do. There were so many unaswered questions - but I knew that Singer had a plan for our oldest and most revered superhero. SR wasn't the best comic book movie I ever saw (Batman Begins holds that crown) but it laid the groundwork for an epic story to come. I think we can all agree that X2 was leaps and bounds better than X-men. I think Singer is gonna knock this outta the park with a sequel. I don't want a "spiderman" type movie where the villians are more important than the hero. Superman deserves better than that. Personally I hope Singer brings in Darkseid because we could have a situation where Supes is forced to give up his son as an offering to Darkseid. But of course Darkseid is a liar and atacks earth anyway and then we could see Supes go one on one with Darksed - a true "battle of the Gods" type showdown. But I could see Brainiac as a cool villain as well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 01:44 PM Here's hoping for the two villains being Darkseid and Braniac! (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 01:46 PM Can't wait for this movie (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 03:14 PM Kill the kid then the movie might be okay. OR pull a dallas and have Superman Returns just be a dream of Clarks and have a real movie take its place. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 03:52 PM In reply to this comment (#1016441) Or we could all pretend that you never really existed aknddon3. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 04:27 PM we know Spacey's gonna be back, so that's one villain. hopefully the other villain is Darkseid, relegating Luthor to minor villain status as opposed to him being the main baddie yet again. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 04:42 PM In reply to this comment (#1015474) pathetic troll go die (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 05:14 PM god, what is wrong with you people, superman returns did not suck in the least. yes, it was no masterpiece but there was alot more things to take away that are positive than negative. Thank God for people like BigBrother who see how wonderful singer's film was. trust me, folks, i'm not the biggest fan of this movie such as the kid, the suit, or lois acting. And would i like to see more action sure but when superman was beaten there so brutally, and how lex(thanks to the brilliant mr. spacey) truly took evil to the next level;with his stabing of superman there in the end. i know it wasn't great not to have all the great banter between lex and kal-el or not enough clark scenes or not enough of supes just showing how super he can be.but i still believe in singer that he can make the needed corrections. and don't forgety folks the most important things when it comes with directors and comic book movies: THE SEQUELS ALWAYS OUTCLASS THE ORIGINALS AND ARE THE ONES WE CHERISH THE MOST. IN SHORT, THESE ARE THE ONES THAT PROVE THE DIRECTOR'S CHOPS! Look at all the examples proving my undisputable fact: Superman 2, x-men 2, spiderman 2, batman returns, fantstic four 2, and i bet that will include also dark knight and the incredible hulk. now i am not saying all these movies were great but all them show directors more comfortable with their work allowing them to create the best movies of their respective franchises no matter how dismal (Fantastic four, the initial batman run) or amazing(Spiderman, superman, x-men). hey, when you look at spidey 2 or x2 doesn't everyone realize how SIGNIFICENTLY BETTER THOSE SEQUELS WERE TO THEIR ORIGINALS?! And those franchises had good originals but raimi amd singer took it to a whole another level with second installments. even tim burton said how he was more ready to handle the batman franchise in the sequel and even though some may disagree on that sequel superiority to burton's first batman; the sequel is said to be better 80% to 72% on this site. Even tim story did a slight better job on his all time bomb in the original fantastic four with just a bad movie this year. Note: the one expection to my rule is ironically superman II(not even the donner cut) not being better than the original according to this site. So what have we learned children? Never ever condemn a director after his initial film on a superhero movie because almost all the time the sequel is remembered and reviewed beter. so fear not the sequel will take what i believe was a: SO-SO 3 STAR MOVI IN SUPERMAN RETURNS AND it will become a sequel that will top singer previous sequel X-MEN 2, which was basically three and half movie, and so i say it will be! No I'm not Zod but frankly just a couch tomaato who notice these things and will keep seeing how i'm right with the upcoming sequels in 2008 for Bats and hulk! So, for the last time don't condemn singer until he gets to paints his true masterpiece and who knows every director, i believe has 2 good movies in them at least, so maybe singer will be the first to make a great third movie! i hope so! and that should be with darkseid! as for this initial news, i believe it will be brainiac and luthor but don't worry i'm pretty sure brainic can give clark enopugh stuff to smash for you whining experts out there. so be patient and youy will believ a singer movie will fly better than any movie we ever seen. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 05:26 PM I dunno guys, I came away from Superman Returns with a smile on my face. I really enjoyed it. And I just watched the original Superman movie for the first time since I was a child and was very unimpressed with it. There were so many things in that film that were completely ridiuclous and made you want to cover your eyes; that however wasn't the case for me with Returns. So yeah, as unpopular as it might be I think Returns is better than the original Superman film. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 05:28 PM i really did not like superman returns, but i think will give a sequel a chance. i really DO wanna see superman actually fight someone...and you know, be super? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 08:14 PM In reply to this comment (#1016612) Here is the problems with Superman Returns ... Its not that the movie didnt look good , or even that the acting was horrible cuz i really liked Routh as Superman , I dont disagree Singer has an eye for shooting a movie and shooting big huge scenes . I liked the look of the movie and how polished it was... The problem with Superman Returns was the writing, script, plot , backstory and how they butchered what it means to be Superman . Firstly - The back story to why he left into space and how he went about it was kinda shady and just really grasping at straws to explain why he is returning . Lame Secondly - The Lex Luthor plot to grow new land using kryptonian crystals ??? WTF!!! like for real you can say that you thought that was a good plan for a arch villian ? It was just another lame plot line that ruined the movie ... Thirdly- I understand they wanted to make Superman seem vunerable and more human , but to have him in a hospital in a coma ??? He has never been in the hospital , he reacts to Kryptonite and is weakened and can be killed by it . As soon as the Kryptonite was gone . The sun would recharge his powers and he would be fine . Not in a damn ICU for days... Fourthly - SUPERMAN DOES NOT HAVE A KID !!! No to mention he is now Supermans bastard child . What a stupid idea . I knew as soon as i saw the kid it would be Supermans and i was livid . Take the kid out of the film and what does it hurt , NOT A THING . It was a bad idea and just doesnt stay the course of who Superman is .This jus means the kid stuff will come out in a sequel and clog up the movie with explanations and the kids powers ... In a perfect world someone at Warner Bros would have realised the series needed to start over from scratch like Batman did . Explain who he is , why he is on earth and introduce him to everyone again properly . Not make the movie that is a non sequel /sort of sequel , oh wait i mean a Return ... I am a huge fan of Superman and how he has been portrayed in the past and I think to many liberties were taken with his character and what being Superman is all about. It was raped and pillaged by the studio and by Singer to make it marketable to a larger audience and it is a shame they got away with it ... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 08:52 PM Give the sequel a chance man (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 09:08 PM In reply to this comment (#1015712) "Think about it, after Spidey 1 everyone focused on the new villains and Spidey himself was left in the dust. Same thing with Dark Knight. We've seen one piece of news on Bats himself and the rest about the Joker." Don't you even dare. The only reason I like Spider-Man 2 is because of Peter and his ongoing plots. And don't you DARE pull that sh** with The Dark Knight. Batman Begins was ALL about Bruce and Batman, and Nolan has stated many times that it will stay that way with the rest of the series. That's why it was called "The Dark Knight". (Reply to this) |
on Aug 06 2007 09:24 PM I'm hoping for Brainiac or Metallo. I'll settle for Parasite and/or Bizarro but I think they should be further down the road a few movies. The only villain I'm not looking forward to is General Zod. Like Luthor, he's been there - done that. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 10:25 PM Andrex is right. a huge the hype is about The Joker, sure. i think most of the Joker hype is being trumped up by the fanboys who are eager to see how The Joker will be portrayed. we alreay know how Batman and Alfred and Jim Gordon are being portrayed, we learned that in Batman Begins. it doesn't mean The Joker will be the focus of TDK, it's just the anticipation of seeing The Joker again. and let's not forget the fanboy frenzy there was about Harvey Dent's portrayal and his inevitable transformation into Two-Face. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 06 2007 11:18 PM Go to youtube and type in marvel vs. dc villians. It is awesome and proves a major point. Marvel movies are awesome because they come up with their plan off screen, they create their weapons off screen and they do not waste time explaining their plan on screen. Lex is a such a weak villian and thus another reason why Superman Returns was one of the worst movies ever. They need to pull a Dallas, but as most of you guys are only 12 you would not understand what i just said. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 12:23 AM Hopefully Lex will just have a minor role or even better just have a cameo. They should have villians that people aren't expecting like Toyman and Livewire. They would be a tough team to beat. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 01:36 AM In reply to this comment (#1017524) oh, shut up loser. superman returns will always be more loved and respected than your sorry *** ever will be. god, thanks for the opinion mr. marvel. so, um how bad is superman returns? is it worse than ghost rider, x-men 3, daredevil, hulk, fantastic four, fantastic four 2,electra, punisher? hmmm.... i didn't think so smartass. so, i'm sorry we not like the all knowing marvel that makes masterpieces every time out. so, i guess that makes only two x-men films and three spidermans that are good compared to um let me see EIGHT!!!! HMMM 5-8? Wow, yeah i wish i had that sub .500 record. oh, poor dc we can't compete with the freakin new york knicks of comic book movies!~!!!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 02:21 AM In reply to this comment (#1017645) HAHAHAHAHAHA, superman returns is one of the most hated superhero movies of all time. Superman Returns is the second worst comic book movie of all time. Hmm lets see DC has two good movies, Batman Begins and Superman so that means they are batting 2-12, wow that sucks. So if you are going to attack Marvel at least use some common sense. DC is the new york knicks of comic book movies while Marvel is the Spurs, you know the best ****ing team. LOSER. So DC fluffer how does it feel to be wrong again? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 03:14 AM I don't see how you can say Superman Returns is the second worst comic book film. I can think of at least 10 off of the top of my head that I find inferior. Superman Returns is hated by internet nerds, true, but I don't believe the general population hates it. In fact it got some of the best reviews of any comic film. But anyway I like the film, it isn't perfect, but Superman having a child or him laying in an ICU certainly don't bother me and it is hard to see why some people get so worked up about it. The only thing I was disappointed about with Superman Returns is when the film first started and it was the same music and graphics of the original and just then did I realize it was a sequel (I had been thinking it was going to be a reboot). (Reply to this) |
on Aug 07 2007 06:51 AM In reply to this comment (#1017661) Ahh...The idiot once again speaks! I [and I'm sure I speak for many, many others] had hoped that you'd crawled under a rock and disappeared for ever. Do you just wait for news items related to Superman Returns so you can spout your irrelevant opinions about a movie that a lot of people liked a lot? Take your insane love/hate obsession with Superman, Brandon Roth and Bryan Singer to a trained professional. You need help. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 07:25 AM In reply to this comment (#1015793) Said with finality by someone calling themselves darth wonka (Reply to this) |
on Aug 07 2007 10:57 AM In reply to this comment (#1017661) Aknddon3, you really make people on this messaeg board angry. I have to apologize, though, because I mistook you for an angry 11 year old who couldn't write or express their opinion in a logical, LITERATE way. You proved me worng with your "dallas" comment, or you just REALLY love crappy shows. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 11:14 AM what about V for Vendetta, aknddon? it was a DC/Vertigo film, and that was a great, thought-provoking movie despite how they "updated" the story to make it more modern. and the '89 Batman is still a great movie on its own. Superman II should be up there too because it deconstructed the Superman character, challenged Superman like he hadn't been before, and the street fight - while showing its age these days - was awesome. and we still have TDK and Watchmen on the horizon and they both have the potential of being amazing movies, pending Nolan and Snyder don't screw up royally. and i don't really see this so much as a Marvel vs. DC issue here. Superman The Movie opened the door for the '89 movie, and despite both franchises' apparent demise, i don't think there would have been a Blade movie if Superman and Batman movies had ever been made. Blade set the table for X-Men, X-Men set the table for Spider-Man, and the doors just blew off after that and now there are comic movies coming out all the time and they've become the big moneymakers. and to further my point, the Spider-Man movies pretty much followed the Superman movies beat for beat. the first film is the origin, the second film strips the hero of his powers and makes him choose between a normal life and a hero's life, and the third film turned the heroes evil. the influence of the Superman movies on the Spidey movies is more than obvious. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 11:17 AM I don't understand this aknddon3 guy. Is he really saying that Marvel makes better movies than DC? That is the biggest load of horse**** I have ever read! I guarantee you that come next summer, 3x as many people are going to want to see "The Dark Knight" than "Iron Man." I think Iron Man is a great character but he doesn't have a prayer of beating The Dark Knight at the box office. I would take Superman Returns over just about ANY Marvel movie ever made. Marvel just keeps cranking these average (and sometimes sucky) movies out left, right and center. I don't even think Marvel knows how to make a great movie - which is why I don't have high hopes for Iron Man. Every time I see the Marvel Studios Logo, my mind automatically thinks "Crappy Movie." I like DC's movies because they are always something different - not always awesome - but they aren't what you would expect. Take V for Vendetta, Batman Begins or Superman Returns for example. VforV was one of the most original movies I have ever seen. Batman Begins was about revenge vs justice and the nature of fear. Superman Returns was such a personal story of loss and finding your place in the world. These movies werent just "hero vs villain" stories like so many Marvel movies. Thats why when I see the DC logo I know I am getting something special - maybe not specifically my taste - but its something I have never had before. So to sum up my point: Marvel = McDonalds Hamburger, DC = Surprise special at a fine Italian restaurant. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 12:24 PM In reply to this comment (#1019304) There area few things you need to keep in mind in this gret Marel vs DC debate in my opinion ... First- Marvel made a huge mistake in the beginning of the comic book movie craze and sold there characters rights to everyone and anyone . That is why you get such contrast in the quality of the movies . As soon as they sell to a movie studio they loose prolly 75% of the say in that franchise . After Spiderman made half a million bucks everyone and anyone wanted a piece of the comic book genre so marvel sold aay its part to the highest bidder . Thats why Hulk was trash and Dardevil was sub par , why Fantastic 4 got a director who cant do action and why movies Elektra got rushed and hacked up , and why Ghost Rider had to endure a horrible script and Nic Cage. The only ones that really were made well were Spiderman and X-men both which faltered by movie 3 ... Second - DC is only known for those 2 main superhero franchises . Ok you can argue about The Flash and Green Lantern and Wonder Woman but let face facts Superman and Batman are DC comics . If you recall the last couple old Supermans and Batmans were a joke and forced DC to reboot both franchises and assume more control of them but in association with one studio WB , making getting the right actos and diectors and writers alot easier for those movies. So you have Marvel with lets say 12 viable big screen characters to develop and you have DC with 2 ,so you can see how this differs for each group and why soim marvel movies were lost to studio influence ... I wont argue Batman Begins was better than any Marvel movie , but marvel has made at least 6 solid movies where DC has made one amazing movie and one disappointing movie thus far . I think now that marvel has taken control of its own charcters and are now financing there own movies you will see a change in the quality , Iron Man is the first Marvel Studio made movie i think it will be something special and i hope The Incredible Hulk follows suit and next up Captain America and a Silver Surfer project . Before we hand the comic book crown to DC lets wait and see what Marvel can do when they make there movie the way tey want to ... (Reply to this) |
on Aug 07 2007 01:28 PM In reply to this comment (#1015525) Exactly, Bizarro or Brainiac? Would be great...Lex should take a long, long, long vacation, after all, he only doesn't really have a heavy role in the awful SIII (and for the record, SIV was good, better than SIII). And if you didn't like the movie, that means that you don't appreciate a good retcon story...or people growing up...or having kids... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 04:09 PM SuperMan Returns rocked and am very much looking towards the sequel. Sorry to those that thought it sucked... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 04:27 PM i dunno about Marvel being compared to McDonald's, gamejediben. the X-Men story is really a metaphor for civil rights and discrimination. and as we all know, the Spider-Man story is about "with great power comes great responsibility" and how an everyman like Peter Parker deals with that responsibility, a story similar to Superman's story (although he isn't so much an everyman and merely pretends to be as Clark Kent). right now, the best Marvel and DC films are (in no particular order, so don't think i'm listing them from best to Spid Sp X-Men X-Men 2 Blade Superman: The Movie Superman II (the Lester version if you enjoyed the silly touch, the Donner cut if you wanted a more serious movie, but they both conveyed Superman's internal conflict) Batman '89 Batman Begins V for Vendetta (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 05:44 PM I don't think Superman Returns was that bad, but I don't think it was that great either. I think the problem was in feeding people the same story that we've already had in 50 other incarnations. I think people will receive the sequel much better than SR because the moviemakers have heard all this criticism and will be reaching a bit further for something new to offer. The whole Lex and kryptonite plot line has to be pushed aside. There shouldn't be a single ounce of kryptonite in this sequel and I think that's what they are going for. I agree that Smallville should have just been transitioned to the bigscreen with a bigger adventure. All the back-story and characters are already developed, you could just jump straight into a brainiac or bizarro or whatever plot line. My final note is adding my vote to the "Super-Illegitimate Kid" being the worst part about SR. This is supposed to be the epitome of a moral boy-scout hero and this? C'mon- one night stand Superman? And hero movies aren't a battle of DC vs. Marvel. Every character from wherever they originate should be judged individually. I'm sure they could even make The Power Pack or Booster Gold look good with the right team. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 06:02 PM In reply to this comment (#1019868) dylan, I have to disagree with your list of great marvel movies. In my opinion the only great marvel movies were Xmen 2 and Spiderman 2. Spiderman 1 was SOOOOO cheesy and corny that I am amazed that it made $400 million at the box office. Kirsten Dunst can't act to save her life. Her scenes in Spidey 1 were so cringe worthy that had to cover my face and pretend it didn't happen just to sit through the rest of the movie. Even katie holmes in Batman Begins wasn't THAT bad! Xmen 1 was decent but not great which is how some people view SR. And Blade was only good if you don't expect much out of it - but even then it still wasn't a classic. I liked Xmen's metaphor but I had seen it before in many much better films. It also came off as a heavy handed gay rights promotion. And Spidey's message is drilled so hard into our skulls in every single Spiderman movie that I stopped caring! "with great power comes great responsibility" is said SO many times that by the 3rd film I was about to vomit if I heard it again. They still feel like trash food. But I still give them an "A" for effort. The latest DC movies (although they were spawned from comic books) didn't come off as comic booky or cheesy in any way (I'm looking at you, Peter "yell at my hands to make them shoot webs" Parker). Marvel needs to take their properties more seriously. That means no more high pitched 10 year old soundalikes with no sense of humor for Spiderman. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 06:44 PM In reply to this comment (#1017524) I love how aknddon acts like he's smarter than everybody else, but he doesn't seem to understand the meaning of an opinion. Oh, and you weren't 12 once? What, did you automatically go from 11-13? Aknddon, do what hollywood is doing with the Hulk; starting from scratch. A few words of advice... 1. Go to the dictionary and look up 'opinion'. 2. Make up a new user and with your newfound word in your vocabulary never go back to being aknddon3. 3. Stop complaining about Superman Returns. Your rant is repetetive and annoying. You hated Superman Returns; we get that. You don't need to say it every time a piece of news about its sequel comes up. Now before you go and call me a 'stupid little 14 year old virgin loser nerd' actually take my advice into consideration. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 07:34 PM In reply to this comment (#1020474) thank you very much, batspideykong,gamejediben, BUCK69,therereturn! once again you show how many COOL, INTELLIGENT, RESPECTFUL AND JUST completely Good, Folks occupy this wonderful site! Do you see this adkkon3, you are overmatched in every capacity including just plain ol decency! we will always be here to shut you up and make sure your hatred does not poision this site!! you will never stop the righteous people on this site because we will nevel let you win. Oh, adkkon3, one last thing SUPERMAN RETURNS GOT 77% PERCENT FRESH TOMATO RATING!!!! HOW IS IT THE 2ND WORST COMIC BOOK MOVIE EVER?!?!? I MEAN HOW STUPID ARE YOU? CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT 2 2 IS? SO, ONCE AGAIN, ARE YOU, MARVEL'S JOE QUESEDA AND ARVI ARAD PERSONAL *******,SAYING TO THE WORLD SUPERMAN RETURNS WASN'T BETTER THAN electra and fantastic four 1 and 2, daredevil, X-MEN 3, HULK, HOWARD THE DUCK, AND GHOST RIDER? HELL, NO ONE CAN BE TRHAT MUCH OF A RETARD! OH, AND YOUR BELOVED SPIDEY 3 GOT LESS OF A FRESH TOMATO REVIEW ON THIS VERY SITE THAN THIS "2ND WORST COMIC BOOK MOVIE EVER"! SO, ONCE AGAIN ALL THESE FACT COMBINED WITH YOUR OPINIONS MAKE YOU THE DUMBNEST NASTIEST LOSER EVER. Oh, hello mr spacey, do you have anything to say to this loser's opinion, (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 07:38 PM In reply to this comment (#1020347) i put the first Spidey and X-Men movies on the list because of how well they set up the story. there's no way that Spidey 2 and X2 would have been as great as they were if they didn't have great set-ups. and Blade is on the list because if it wasn't good and therefore successful, the X-Men and Spidey franchises wouldn't have gotten off the ground. no one wanted to touch comic book movies after Batman & Robin stained the genre. but Blade came out and people realized that comic book movies could be dark, serious, and action-packed again. those films aren't without their flaws, just like every other movie on my list. but compared to the mediocrity and downright horrible films like the aformentioned Batman & Robin as well as Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, they're the best of them all. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 08:15 PM In reply to this comment (#1020569) Good response, but you shouldn't have brought up the 77% RT part, because he'll just say that critics are 'The biggest SOB's on the planet'. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 09:35 PM In reply to this comment (#1020639) sorry, but that jerk gets me so angry. i'm just trying to explain to our sad misguided individua with the known facts that prove my point. to be fair it is rare when so many critics could be wrong and hey if i have to suffer one of his pathetic rants about how his opinion is absolute, well then so be it! i have responsibility to protect the movies that i love and heck any movie when it was of a fresh quality that superman returns was. i mean why can't he rant against movies that deserve it? someone please tell me why he doesn't rant against what tim story did to fantastic four or what brett ratner did to the x-men franchise? i could accept him if he did this to all movies under lets say below a three star review but unfortunately thats not the case. So, don't worry about me BatSpideyKong, I won't back down when i have proof to back up an equally passionate opinion no matter the abuse from those who would try to stop me. Oh, and Mr spacey has something to say again, "Mr. BatSpideyKong is GGGGRRRREEEAAATTT! I gues he likes tony the tiger as well, huh? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 10:17 PM I understand, couch tomatoe dougie. akkedon3 makes me furious too when he insults people who liked the movie. I LOVED Superman Returns. I actually left the theater with tears streaming down my face becuase it was such a beautiful and respectful film. Not just to the Superman character but also to Christopher Reeve and his wife Dana. Me and my buddies (being the manly men we are) tried not to look at each other after the movie because we were all pretty emotional. The film (while not perfect) just touched alot of chords with us. So when akkedon3 insults the movie, I can't help but get really angry. But its comforting to know that people like akkedon3 are in the extreme minority. But the best part is WE ARE GETTING A FREAKIN SEQUEL!!! AND ITS GONNA BE AWESOME!!! AND THAT LOSER AKKEDON3 CAN ***** MY ******** WITH HIS ******** **** ****** ******** ************* **** AND ***** FOR ****** *** THAT DUMBASS' FAT ********** ******** ********** HIS ********** **** BANANA ****** ****** **** ******** ***** TAILPIPE ****** ************** **** ******* ***** UNCLE **** ********* *** RUBBERBAND IN **** ******** ****** **** GRANDMA'S PANTIES!!!! :D (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 07 2007 11:19 PM In reply to this comment (#1021318) thank you, GAMEJEDIBEN! I really became emotional after listening to that beautiful rant against that bum, adkkon3! I trully appreciate the support i am getting from you batspideykong and so many others because it makes me realize how many great people write on this site and it puts asile on my face that it can't even be matched by that smilely face icon you put to end your beautiful salute to what this site and its community feels about this sad, mean and mr. spacey, one last time with feeling, " everyone out there should join me BatSpideyKong,gamejediben and others to form a grand "Fellowship of the Tomato" . we must take the heavy responsibilty of making sure the evil lord adkkon3 does get hold of the one vegatable that would rule us all. and i get to be Gimili, guys, o-kay there's no debate about it! Now someone get my Axe! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 12:02 AM I am in the minority? How come Superman bombed at the theater? How come it bombed in DVD sales? I guess most people were like me and saw it at the theater and laughed at how stupid it was and then never mentioned it again. How is a movie good when it ****s up a character? WHen has Superman ever had an illegitimate son? When has superman ever went through a comic with saying only one word? When has Superman never thrown a punch and only lifted things. How is SUperman Returns a good movie? There was nothing good about it. P.S. Iron Man will be better than The Dark Knight, who is better at playing a drunk rich dude then Downey Jr. Oh you DC fluffers are going to come back with some lame excusss and no facts. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 12:02 AM I am in the minority? How come Superman bombed at the theater? How come it bombed in DVD sales? I guess most people were like me and saw it at the theater and laughed at how stupid it was and then never mentioned it again. How is a movie good when it ****s up a character? WHen has Superman ever had an illegitimate son? When has superman ever went through a comic with saying only one word? When has Superman never thrown a punch and only lifted things. How is SUperman Returns a good movie? There was nothing good about it. P.S. Iron Man will be better than The Dark Knight, who is better at playing a drunk rich dude then Downey Jr. Oh you DC fluffers are going to come back with some lame excusss and no facts. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 12:25 AM Ya know, aknddon3. I wish The Dark Knight and Iron Man would come out on the same day just so I could prove to you just how pathetically wrong you are. You would be the only one at the movies to go see Iron Man when the whole freakin city is lined up around the block to go see The Dark Knight. Iron Man has been, is, and always will be a poor man's Batman. Are you really arguing that because RDJ has a history with alcohol that it will make his performance BETTER? You are one REALLY F'ed up piece of work... And BTW, Batman could unleash an unholy *** whupin on every single ****ing one of Marvel's characters just by pulling something out of his pocket. Thats right, aknddon3. YOU HAVE BEEN PWNED! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 05:53 AM In reply to this comment (#1021781) You're the moron who has never let the facts get in the way of an unfounded, sorry-assed opinion. I could again supply the numbers, which very clearly demonstrate that Superman Returns did NOT "bomb" at either the box office or in DVD sales but what would be the point? The definition of stupid is doing [or saying] the same thing over and over again in spite of the results or the facts. That suits you to a "T". By the way, how in hell can you say that a movie which hasn't even been released yet will be better than a movie which has? Your lack of reason is astounding. You really are an idiot, in the truest sense of the word. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 06:23 AM In reply to this comment (#1021781) You keep saying it bombed. I'd like to see you make a movie that comes close to making 50 million. Superman Returns made 200 million in the US and 191 million internationally. Even IF it cost 350 million, which it didn't, it still did excellent at the box office. And it made 53 million in rentals and purchases. Now before you say '53 million sucks!', which it doesn't, keep in mind Spider-Man made 22 million in rentals and purchases. I'm really getting tired of pwning you, aknddon. And it's all a qualitative judgement when it comes to what was good about the movie. I say 'The effects were excellent'. You say 'They sucked horribly'. I have no intention of trying to change your opinion, aknddon. Stop trying to change ours. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 06:27 AM In reply to this comment (#1021782) In my OPINION, The Dark Knight will be the best movie of next year. I loved every minute Batman Begins, but I ALSO am very interested in seeing Iron Man, despite my worries about the director. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 06:28 AM In reply to this comment (#1021782) In my OPINION, The Dark Knight may be the best movie of next year. I loved every minute Batman Begins, but I ALSO am very interested in seeing Iron Man, despite my worries about the director. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 07:47 AM OK. Nobody has mentioned Lobo as a villian. He's bad, he's funny, he's irreverent, he zooms around on a Harley/Rocketsled, he has a dog, and he smokes. And he's indestructible. (Well, you can blow him up. But he just regenerates and comes back madder than ever.) Lobo would certainly add a certain amount of levity to the Supey sequel. Something all these comic book movies need. If you are not familiar with Lobo, think the Hulk combined with Gene Simmons combined with Mad Max combined with that fake wrestling guy the Undertaker. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 08:36 AM In reply to this comment (#1021782) "When has Superman ever had an illegitimate son" Yes, God forbid people try something we've never seen before. Everything should be exactly the same as it always was and always will be. What an interesting world that would make. God forbid we allow Superman to make mistakes, that may actually make him relatable to. To all of you who fear this has irreparably damaged the character as a role model, what? does making a mistake completely rule you out as a good person? He didn't even know she was having the kid, much less that it was even his. It's not like he went out to get a pack of smokes and never returned or is ducking child support payments. He had sex with a woman, God damn them for not sleeping in separate beds like the Cleavers. Left because he had to have some closure, God damn him for thinking of himself for 2 seconds, good people just don't do that. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 08 2007 08:59 AM Ive personaly got to say (and this is coming from a dude who has an entire tattoo sleeve of DC comics characters on his right arm!) that for me Marvel still has the better average of movies. The first 2 Batman flicks, Begins, Superman and S.R aside thats it, ziltch. Marvel has such a quality roster of people with such a history (x men, spidey, f4, captain america) that even its 2nd and 3rd tier hero's can make semi decent flicks (ghost rider, daredevil and now hulk & thor) but D.C as someone previously mentioned realy only has Superman and Batman, I cant imagine people flocking to the theatre or getting this riled up over a wonder woman movie, in all honesty. A Green Lantern flick would awesome if handled properly. But a Black Canary movie? Captain Marvel? Lightning Lad,? Dont get me wrong id be thre with my sleeping bag and thermos flask weeks before for any DC movie (with an exception to maybe Superman's Pal Jimmy Olsen 2: Olsen Harder".) but fanboys like myself are NOT what makes succesfull franchises at the box office. Even the supposed JLA movie is going to look pretty patchy without Routhe or Bale to lend it credibility. Superman Returns was all round a good movie, fun to watch, proabably not as faithful (kate bosworth as lois, the lovechild) an adaption as we have seen or maybe were expecting but an ORIGINAL and ENJOYABLE movie which in my opinion gave the whole franchise a much needed shot in the arm, id like to see where he's going to take the story arc next. You can be damn sure he's going to make a better movie than any of us are! As for the next villians, Metalo could be cool, a decent character for singer to work with or maybe Brainiac/Luthor pairing! doomsday or darksied are probably to BANG SMASH! for him, bizzaro...naaah. and lets not do Zod and co again please.... my vote goes to Mr Mzzkrft! that could be interesting ; ) p.s Stop the Luthor hate. he's supes oldest rival with so much history and also two words; Kevin Spacey. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 09:15 AM In reply to this comment (#1022073) Face it aknddon. You've been pwned. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 09:43 AM What about Shaq as Steel? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 01:43 PM How have i been pwned? All the stats prove that i am right, superman bombed, most people hated it. How am i pwned? Come on little ***** you can try harder. Lets see The Dark Knight will be good, Iron Man will be good, i bet those two movies are the highest grossing movies of 2008. And for that loser that thinks that Iron Man is a poor mans Batman, how are they alike besides the part that they are rich? Oh wait they are nothing alike. Maybe you should read up about the character then talk. Oh yeah batman is so awesome, until the hulk breaks him in half because he cannot stop him, hell even superman cannot stop the hulk. YOU ARE A SAD LITTLE *****. So again i wait for a valid response. P.S. Batspidybitch if you are worried about the director of iron man you must be a ****ing moron. The director is "****ing money", you wont get that because you are too young. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 02:09 PM In reply to this comment (#1022731) The director directed Elf for the love of god. That's all I'm worried about. I still am interested, it's just his resume is filled with comedies. And you keep saying 'we don't have any facts.' Oh right! Because every one of your posts hasn't just said 'Superman Returns bombed' or 'Superman Returns sucked and everybody agrees with me and you're in the minority.' And if you honestly think you calling me a ***** is gonna affect me, well, you've got the wrong guy. And I agree, The Hulk could destroy Batman. And I also agree that Batman and Iron Man aren't alike. And I agree that TDK and IM will both make ****loads of money. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 02:09 PM In reply to this comment (#1022731) The "Dallas" and "Swingers" allusions tend to indicate that you're not a little kid, which makes you all the more pathetic. The numbers prove that you're wrong. Your tired refusal to admit that fact proves that you're an idiot. Your argument that the Hulk can break Batman in half and that even Superman can't stop him proves that in spite of your chronological age, you're unbelievably immature. How's that for proof??? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 02:17 PM In reply to this comment (#1021014) Alright, but if you get into trouble, PM me and I've got your back. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 08 2007 02:23 PM I would like to take this moment to extend my middle finger to akknddon3 ,,l,, and give him the "Dumbass Award" for 2007. Good job, akknddon3. You've earned it! In fact, you know what? DOUBLE YOUR PLEASURE!!! ,,l,, ,,l,, Your incomprehensable denial of fact made you the runner up for the "douche bag" award and the "f ucktard" award but the jury is still out on that those. But you never know... Rosie O'Donnell may actually pull out of the race, so heres hoping! :D (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 02:37 AM What numbers? You mean the fact that it cost 350 million to make yet only made like 250 million in the theaters? Or the fact that it was the number one returned or sold back dvd last year? When someone says that Batman would beat all the Marvel superheros i will call them out on it. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 05:27 AM In reply to this comment (#1022809) I think we should give him a life-time achievement award. Maybe even "dumbass of the century." I know its only 2007, but I can't see how anyone could possibly be any more of an idiot. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 05:48 AM In reply to this comment (#1023972) It made 200 million in US theaters but 191 internationally. That's 391 million. And I agree that it was stupid to say that Batman could beat up all of Marvel's superheroes. I mean, he just wouldn't. I think he's COOLER than most but he's defenitley not stronger... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 05:50 AM ...and you're 146 million off. It cost 204 million. Aknddon, Spider-Man 3 is the most expensive movie ever created and it cost 258 million, so in no way would Superman Returns cost 350 million. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 06:11 AM In reply to this comment (#1023972) The domestic gross was $200,081,192. The total, world-wide gross was $391,081,192. That doesn't include DVD sales and rental totals, but in its first week, "Superman Returns" generated nearly $13 million at the rental counter, one of the highest debuts all year. Those are just some of the numbers. But even if your "made-up" numbers are correct [and we all know that they're not], "Superman Returns" netted more than $41,000,000 in box office profits alone. This should be the final word, but it won't be. Because as I've pointed-out before, there are none so blind [or stupid] as those who refuse to see the truth, and when it comes to stupidity, you, aknddon3, are in a league of your own. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 07:03 AM Out of the following, which summer 2008 movie are you anticipating the most? The Dark Knight 68.8% Iron Man 21.8% The Incredible Hulk 6.8% Hellboy 2 2.0% Speed Racer 0.7% (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 07:04 AM That came from Superherohype.com. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 08:59 AM In reply to this comment (#1024107) That's the same order as mine. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 09:08 AM I think Iron Man will do very well, considering it is a new Superhero film. People do like to see different characters and new stories. I personally think The Dark Knight will win at the box office. Batman Begins was very impressive and I have super high hopes for this sequel. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 09:29 AM In reply to this comment (#1024160) Agreed. There's only one thing that might screw it at the box office. If it says in the trailers 'from the director of Elf'. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 09:33 AM I have high hopes for Iron Man, too. Considering the people involved, it should be the second best [The Dark Knight will be number one] superhero movie of the summer. But, then again, look at the people who were involved with "The Incredible Hulk" and we all know how that turned-out. Although I personally like it. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 11:10 AM In reply to this comment (#1024177) I liked The Hulk too. I basically have hopes for every superhero movie coming out next summer. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 11:37 AM In reply to this comment (#1023972) Aknddon3 I am with you man , keep fighting the good fight against these morons who thought that Superman Returns was anything but a huge mistake and that it BOMBED at the theatres . You are all defending it by saying it made 200 million here and 191 internationally. The movie cost 200 million to make not to mention the marketing costs . I think all you SR defenders should come back to reality and figure out that movie studios do not make 200 million dollar movies to only break even or barly make money. If it was such a huge sucess why did WB wait to make sure it made at least 300 million before green lighting the sequel ??? Batmans sequel had a green light before the DVD even came out , Spidermans sequel was being planned before it was even out of theaters . So if you really think about it there was a bit of hesitation to make another Superman movie and that is not a sign of an amazing movie. You are not a true Superman fan if you could look past all the crap plot lines and script flaws and the creative licenses they took with the character of Superman . Superman does not have a kid ever , especially after a one night stand . Superman does not lay in hospitals for days in a coma , and good villians do not have plans to create new islands out of crystals to make money ... The plot and script were garbage , they trashed the entire image and character that is Superman and it was not a box office or dvd success in anyway , LOOK UP THE NUMBERS AND COMPARE THEM to other movies with these budgets and see how much money they made compared to Superman . Look at Spiderman , Batman , Transformers , Pirates ... As far as Iron man vs The Dark Knight , of course Batman will make more money it is a sequel for starters and overall the 6th movie about the character to he has a wider an base . I agree Begins was an amazing movie and in my opinion the best comic book movie ever and totally trumped Superman Returns in everyway . Iron man is new and fresh and not well known to the general public so i am sure Batman will win the box office fight , but i think Iron man will surprise people in how good it is , Marvel has full control of it an Faverau knows his comic books . (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 11:50 AM Uradik smoke, In the comics Superman has had several "sons" both pre and post crisis. Most recently in "Last Son." Where General Zod and Ursa's abused child was adopted by lois and clark. And secondly, nobody said ANYTHING in 1980 when Superman II came out and he slept with Lois. If your complaining about that then you are just about 27 YEARS TOO LATE!!! You seriously don't know very much about Superman history with the claims you are making. Methinks you are just another marvel fanboy... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 12:11 PM In reply to this comment (#1024350) Meagrees... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 12:56 PM Superman has no kid, look right now and see if he has an illigetimate kid? Oh wait he has none. So basically gamejediben is just a blind dc fanboy. So Buck how does it feel to know that the production company even said that Superman cost 350 million including marketing? How does it feel to know that it was the number one returned movie of the year? How does it feel to know that it did really bad at rentals? Yes i used to work at Hollywood video and that was the biggest dissappointment ever. Try again buck and this time use facts, something i always use. You are so sad, you deserve the lifetime retarded award for being the biggest ****ing DC fluffer in the world. p.s. Please learn that internet sites are not valid sources of stats, because i hate to tell you but the entire world does not use Rottentomatoes and Superherohype. I bet you once the first trailer for Iron Man comes out everyone is going to be ****ing amazed and would see that over Batman. Hell the biggest thing about Comic Con this year was the Iron Man trailer and the armor that they brought in. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 12:57 PM Buck is so sad, he is a blind little DC fanboy. He has no understanding of facts either, so sad. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:09 PM In reply to this comment (#1024350) Are you really trying to compare those instances of Supermans "Children" to him actually biologically having a child with Lois Lane ??? Cuz i think you are just another know it all wanna be who is trying to dispute that in fact Superman Returns was a disaster on all accounts by grasping at straws ... Just answer the question ... Do Superman and Lois Lane ever have a biological child togehter ??? I dont think anything else matters here in your little debate ... I am not disputing that in the comics there have been references to children , I am stating that there has never been a story or comic that has mentioned a biological child of Superman and Lois Lane .... I am no Marvel fanboy as i think they have let some of the worst super hero movies get made about there characters and they have diluted the entire genre ... I am simply a fan of good movies that stay true to there charcters, plots and themes , Something Superman Returns didnt do in the least in any way . The studio and Singer took creative control and tried to make the movie mass appealing and marketableand it was only to make money... You neglected to mention how you felt about Superman being in the ICU of a hospital , or Lex Luthors big evil plan to use Kryptonian Crystals to make a new world as the main evil plot or any of the other rediculous plot holes ... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:10 PM In reply to this comment (#1024578) But if he's a 'blind dc fanboy' then he would see TDK no matter what. And aknddon, you've got no mother****in' proof that it was the most returned DVD. Stop saying it until you've got some facts to back you up instead of saying 'It was the most returned DVD'. You keep saying 'we don't have any facts' but you don't have anything to back you up. And it made 391 mllion overall. Hmm, last I checked 391 was a larger number than 350, am I correct? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:29 PM In reply to this comment (#1024638) It's funny how trolls on RT complain about how a movie isn't original and doesn't try something new, then complain how comic book movies don't 'stay true to there charcters, plots and themes'. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:35 PM Superman has been around a long time and there are several different versions of the story. Its true that Superman has never had a biological son before. But then again there never was a crystal chamber that takes away superman's powers either. Bryan Singer was just building off of the last good Superman movie (Superman II) for Superman Returns. I'm just saying that in the comics as well as the last episode of "Lois and Clark" Superman has had a child. There is nothing new about that fact. And there is nothing conflicting with Superman's chracter either. Its what he has always wanted. And it made sense in the story of SR because he feels alone and like an outcast. Jason provides that all important bridge to humanity that he has always wanted. Superman didn't know that Lois was preggers before he left and she didn't even know it was Superman's child until SR. So there is no conflict with Superman's character. Now that he knows he is the father, Superman will do the responsible thing and take care of the child. Thats just Superman. About Superman in the ICU, whats wrong with that? He was just exposed to more kryptonite than ever before! Of course he is going to be in critical condition! And Lex's plan was in the vein of classic Luthor plans! He steals something dangerous and he uses it to hijack the world and its up the Superman to stop him... Thats pretty much the classic Luthor plot since the golden age comics. What other "rediculous" plot holes were there? I thought Returns was just using the classic superman formula added with a touch of the loose ends of Superman II. It seems to me like the obvious next chapter in the saga. There is nothing "unsupermanly" about this movie. It was the reintroduction that Superman needed for this generation and the launching pad for future superman stories. And if you can't see that, then you are stuck in the past. Believe it or not, I used to be a marvel fanboy but they pissed me off too many times. Thats why I now choose quality over quantity. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:42 PM If your defence of Superman Returns being a box office and DVD success is that it made 41 Million more than it cost in total to make and market then that is truly sad ... Are you guys perhaps in denial , so distrot that the movie was so bad and made so little money and proved that peole hated this vision of Superman that you cant quite admit that this was indeed a overall poorly made movie , sure it looked great and had some cool effects but you have to overall admit that as a whole it was not a very well done movie and was an embarasment to Superman ... Do some research and see how much money other superhero movies have made , how many movies that had budgets over 200 Million made such little return , i think if you actually stopped and looked at the facts as you all say I should you would see the truth about the success or lack of success of Superman Returns (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:51 PM In reply to this comment (#1024772) You forget the 53 million it made on DVD. That's 94 million. AND WE CAN LIKE MOVIES YOU DON'T! DEAL WITH IT YOU MOTHER ****IN' DOUCHEBAG! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:55 PM I will agree to disagree about how we feel about Superman Returns , as you obviosly saw something in it that i did not see . I was so amazingly disappointed by the movie that i guess i just cannot like this movie and the plot it tried to portray . Superman did need a reboot and needed to be introduced to this generation , but building off a movie from 1980 and a television show in the 90's was not the way to do it at all . This was made as if it was some sort of a sequel , though it was said not to be one. It tried to pick up where other incarnations of Superman left off . I think Warner Bros , DC and everyone had a golden chance to re-introdue Superman to the world the right way , theway the had re-introduced Batman the year earlier , where you could have tol some backstory about Krypton , had some back story of his childhood and then brought him to Metropolis to become Clark Kent and Superman and start the story over fresh and new the way it should have been done ... We all have our points of view and this is mine... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:55 PM Alright, that was a somewhat random attack, but I'm tired of people acting like there opinions are the only opinions out there. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:57 PM URADIK - All I can say is, yes you are. Anyone who would encourage an idiot like aknddon3 must be a "dik." And by the way, WBs waited until SR grossed $200 mil before green-lighting the sequel, not $300 mil. So there goes your remaining credibility. aknddon3 - I understand facts, moron. Why don't you use some in your analysis. Where do you get your information regarding DVD sales, rentals and returns? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 01:59 PM In reply to this comment (#1024832) Thank you. I apologize for the attack. Unlike aknddon, you can realize that people can disagree. I can also see your point of view on the movie now that you explained it a little more. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 02:04 PM Uradik Smoke, I understand where you are coming from. But put yourself in the shoes of Bryan Singer for a moment and ask yourself what is the most well known version of superman out there? The answer is of course Superman the movie. Now do you want to do a reboot? NO! Heres why: 1. Richard Donner and Christopher Reeve did it best. It would be a slap in the face to make a reboot because you would basically be saying that Superman the movie just wasn't good enough. This isn't like Batman Begins because Batman had never had a good origin tale before. 2. Smallville is already doing it. And it would have hurt Smallville considerably to make a reboot and conflict with that show. So instead they chose to keep going with the story of Richard Donner. Maybe in a few years down the line they will make a reboot. But for now the logical and most practical way is Superman Returns. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 02:05 PM Random question; how old is Smallville's Superman? If he's older than he looks I would've loved to seem him as Superman. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 02:06 PM Just pointing out facts my friend about how "successful" the movie was ... You can have your DvD Sales of 53 million and it still cannot even compete with the other movies in this genre or in this production cost range and how much money they grossed. If you really want all the numbers i have them . Lets just say every Spidey movie , all the X-men movies , Batman Begins and even Fantasic 4 made more total gross than Superman did ... And i am not even taking into accont the DvD sales of all other movies , just the box office gross... Get your facts straight... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 02:11 PM Tom Welling (Smallville's Superman) is 30 so he is a little older than Brandon Routh. I think he looks alot like superman but his voice is terrible. Its very effeminite. I much prefer Brandon's voice. Also Tom isn't a very good actor. He is a model by training, and was only chosen for his looks. Thats why some of his smallville lines are so cringe worthy. IMHO he is only a passable Superman. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 02:22 PM In reply to this comment (#1024887) I didn't say you did. I'm talking about how much the movie itself made overall. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 02:28 PM Ok i am done arguing about Superman Returns we all have our different feelings about it and what it did right snd what it did wrong . Gameediben - I agree with some of your points , but i do think they could have rebooted it from the beginning but still stayed away from what Donner and Reeve did to make The Superman Movie so good . As far as Smallville goes I dont think they needed to take its plot lines or what was going on there into account at all . Unless Smallville is going to end the series by having Clark put on the tights and cape and become Superman i dont think it has any real impact and should not have mattered ... If they were gonna reboot and start over that was there shot , they cant do it now with this whole Superman Returs chapter being made . I just really hoped for a Batman Begins-esque treatment for this movie aswell . Hypathetically speaking if Nolan got Superman and Singer got Batman whould we be having this same debate , or would we be on the Dark Knight forum saying this same stuff . Anyway to answer the actual question of this forum i do want to see a better Superman movie next time around and i wanna see Metallo as a creation of Lex and maybe the beginning of Brainiac plot line for a third movie , or even for a Justice League movie spin off where all of the JLA could get involved with the Brainiac plot line . I do eventally wanna see Doomsday and Superman Fight in the final Chapter of the New Superman movies ... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 09 2007 05:03 PM doomsday, metallo or jenna jameson, then they instead of fighting they could all watch jenna and doomsday 69, while superman takes it in the rear from bryan singer and wee man (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 10 2007 03:55 AM So since when has superman been a skinny *****? When did he have an illegitimate son? (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 10 2007 06:06 AM In reply to this comment (#1026372) Aknddon, it's over. The argument is done. Nobody wins, nobody loses. Just save your rant for the next piece of S: MOS news. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 10 2007 09:51 AM I think the world is a much nicer place when aknddon3 is not talking... Reading his posts is costing me some serious brain cells, so for the sake of my intelligence, I am going to stop arguing with him. One last thing... SUPERMAN RETURNS RULED!!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 10 2007 11:06 AM In reply to this comment (#1024887) So let me get this straight, because a movie isn't one of the the most successful comic book movies of all time, like The Spider-mans, Batman Begins and The X-men movies it's somehow a failure. As for FF, How much less did FF cost to make? For costing the money it took to make SR, it couldn't have done much better. Especially considering it was the first film of the franchise. We'll really see how much people liked or disliked SR's when the sequal comes out. If Man of Steel makes more than SR's with a strong opening it's a good bet people enjoyed SR's. Less with a poor opening weekend they probably thought it sucked. For my money if you could go into any studio in the world and tell them your movie is going to make them 94 mil you'd be busy making a lot of movies. And Aknddon3, Since when is 6ft 200lbs skinny. I suggest you go out an pick a fight with someone roughly that size and after your jaw heals come back and tell us how scrawny the guy who broke your jaw was. Lastly, IT'S A NEW TAKE ON THE CHARACTER YOU ****WIT!!!! IF YOU WANT THE SAME OLD THING WATCH RE-RUNS AND DVD's!!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 10 2007 11:17 AM In reply to this comment (#1027250) Preach it, brother. (Reply to this) |
on Aug 10 2007 12:35 PM Remember when Uwe Bolle was offering money to fight his critics (which made me just about wet myself with laughter-- way to feel secure in your product, director-man!)? That made me think after reading the 100th post on this topic; I think we should start making a collection to see Bigbrother and Aknddon3 meet and fight. I have nothing against either (though I tend to agree with BB rather than A), but it just seems like you guys are arch-nemeses who need to resolve your issues in the purity of bloody mortal kombat on a moon-lit beach somwhere in Asia with an evil overlord sitting in a chair made of human skulls, laughing about the fate of our world while being fed grapes by native, half-naked Jessica Alba's. ..Or I'm just wigging out on caffiene as I read this string. Just as likely. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 10 2007 02:28 PM It'd be nice to add something fresh and new. Scrap Lex Luthor for crying out loud. How many times do we need to see him in a Superman movie!?!?! I like the idea of Darkseid and company. Something original and exciting. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 10 2007 07:44 PM In reply to this comment (#1027250) I am just voiceing the other point of view as someone who is a huge Superman fan and was terribly disappointed in Superman Returns and how it was done and i have explained why , this is simply my opinion , But people on here are throwing numbers around and trying to use them for arguments sake ... I was also giving you some facts about how successful a movie is , now you are right in the fact that you would have to take into account many different things to determine if a movie is successful or not . But since the standard in this debate seemed to be Gross Revenue i was just merely stating the facts about how Superman Returns would not be classified as a large finacial success when compared to other movies of similar budgets. I am just trying to show the other side of things so everyone has the facts ... So here are the Numbers for similar movies ( These are strictly Production Budget and Total world gross . No Marketing Costs or Dvd sales/rentals ) Cost WW Revenue Gross Profit Spider Man 2 200 mil 784 mil 584 Mil Spider Man 3 258 mil 889 mil 631 Mil X-men 3 210 Mil 459 Mil 249 Mil Pirates 2 225 Mil 1 Bil 775 Mil Pirates 3 300 Mil 954 Mil 654 mil Transformers 147 Mil 594 Mil * 447 Mil * To date Batman Begins 150 Mil 411 Mil 261 Mil Superman Returns 271 Mil 391 Mil 120 Mil So like I am saying when compared to the other movies of the same production magnitude SR could be seen as not a hugely sucessful film ( Partially due to the fact the budget jumped nearly 50 Million than planned ) . As you can see Transformers and Batman Begins which were both The first movie in new Franchises as Superman Returns was generated much more total gross . (Reply to this) |
on Aug 10 2007 10:48 PM im seriously hoping its either Braniac, Bizzaro, or Metallo that would be a great fight to see on the big screen. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 03:10 AM Huh, i am 6'2 220, i would whoop his ***, he was a skinny *****, he has no muscles and looks like superboy. Find me one comic where superman does not have muscles. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 08:43 AM In reply to this comment (#1028584) He had muscles. And I doubt 10 year olds are 6'2 and weigh 220. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 01:47 PM In reply to this comment (#1027772) You do have a good, if O'Reilly-esque point. There are also alot of big budget films made that didn't gross anything at all. I think one of the main reasons SR's was such a relative BO failure is because unlike most of the other big budget movies you mentioned it didn't compromise itself to be audience pleasing. It set out to be a smart, dialog and character driven homage to a classic character, while at the same time offering a new take with potentially dangerous character advancements(i.e. illegitimate child) (Super-sex). It blatantly flew in the face of many idea's as to how to make a successful comic book movie, namely give people all action, big distracting explosions and the same old crap we supposedly progressive thinking comic book nerds have grown comfortable with over the last 50 years. I can understand why you and aknddon were disappointed, but my opinion is that Singer should be commended for giving us what we always claim we want, something different. Good debate though, I've enjoyed this. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 01:51 PM In reply to this comment (#1029380) That would actually make a lot of sense if you think about it. Aknddon is actually Barry Bonds and he's the way he is because he's taking out his fury on the public that's scorned him as well as overcompensating for his steroid shrunken little Barry. :). Seriously Aknddon, these rants used to be funny, but get some new material or at least go out and find a new movie to hate. How about some more Knocked Up schtick that's still comparitively fresh I guess. I don't want you to become the Gallagher of this site and still be splattering the Superman Returns watermelon and the "I own you" cantalope on us 10 years from now. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 05:53 PM I have enjoyed the debae aswell , alot more once it became a debate rather than an opionless brawl of *****ed out words ... I am not sure if you can say all mega budget movies are comprimised and SR was not , we will honestly never know what got cut and what didnt by the studio or by Singer and the same can be said about all of the above movies i mentioned. I have agreeed to disagree , you and others liked what Singer did with the story , I was disappointed by the plot and the direction it was taken in . Honestly i was just so blown aay by how well Batman was redone that i really had high hopes for something similar with Superman , though not being he same as Batman was prolly important aswell to Singer and WB ... I am hopful that the sequel will be successful and change my mind about thi vision of Superman ... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 06:01 PM I would like to take this moment to renounce my support of Aknddon ... I tried to be on your side for a bit and stand by my opinion that SR was not a good movie , but you seriously have no idea what you are talking about now . You are arguing over the amount of muscle Superman has in the movie than what appears in comics ??? Comics are drawn and are not real people and in every comic book the characters proportions and muscles are exagerated to make them appear more like a hero and more fictional ... You have no point with this argumant , and you are wrong . Give up dude ... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 06:14 PM Good man. I apologize for calling you a mother****in' douchebag. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 09:36 PM And I apologize for calling you a marvel fanboy... No matter what we thought of the movie, we can all agree akknddon3 is a dumbass. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 10:17 PM I love how aknddon never posts when I'm on. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 10:34 PM In reply to this comment (#1030720) now that scientific law, gamejediben! and i hope we will always get along and make sure we stay united in our fight to defeat the offensive and "Wrrrooonggg" opinions of aknddon from this great site! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 11 2007 10:44 PM In reply to this comment (#1030770) BATSPIDEYKONG, great point and what a surprise that aknddon would do such a thing. Not really actually because people like Aknddon are bullies who always fight when no one looking or picking on the weak- like any pathetic coward. But when they have to deal with the pressure of having to deal with the proud, cool, noble and brave commentors, like us, fight back, guess what? he runs and hides in his hole until the the righteous go back to their wonderful lives, of course he wouldn't know. So, to quote a new movie line reference, for a change, from "the warriors": "Akddon 3, come out and playie yay!!!" we are ready to kick your, from "forrest gump", "butt-tocks!" (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 09:32 AM In reply to this comment (#1030816) Exactly. He calls people 'little stupid loser virgin nerds' and then logs off. It's like a ***** throwing a rock at a group of people and then booking it 2 seconds later. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 12:15 PM Hahahahahahahahahaha, so i am a coward because i have to work and i cannot be online everyday? Man you DC fluffers are ****ing retarded. Okay lets use some common sense, Spiderman is drawn like an average man, so thus they get an average man to play him. Punisher the same thing, Batman is bigger so they get a man who is bigger muscle wise, yet Superman who is supposed to be the strongest and has muscles they get a weak little ***** that has no muscles, how does that make sense? Hell Christian Bale is a better fit for Superman that Routh. So once again i am correct and all of you losers are wrong, now name a time when i was wrong. Oh wait you cant. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 12:36 PM What's your job? Prostitution? I'm sure you have a lot of fun with that, especially when the fags come around. And Routh has muscles. Just because he doesn't have 8 inch arms doesn't make him a weak little *****. Aknddon, do you realize you are so hated that even SR haters are starting to hate you? But, of course, I guess that's the only goal stupid trolls like you have. You need to stop thinking highly of yourself. You think you're some brilliant, perfect genius that has never said anything wrong in your life. It just pisses people off. Oh wait, again, that's the only thing trolls like you enjoy doing. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 02:59 PM Oh the DC fluffer is mad now. No he has no muscles and no deffinition thus a horriable superman, hell even the Smallville Clark has muscles and deffinition to those muscles. Troll? No you and your buddies are trolls, i am not a troll. Again i have yet to be wrong so i will continue to be the smartest person here. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 03:00 PM BTW, you were wrong when you said nobody was dissapointed with the big 3 and when you said EVERYBODY think Katherine Heigl's ugly. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 03:24 PM In reply to this comment (#1032739) Stop calling me a DC 'fluffer'. I prefer Marvel over DC, but barely. And bitching about Superman Returns when every piece of news comes up isn't trolling? What about attacking people that have done nothing to you, like saying 'HAHHAHAHAHAHAH! You thought that was a good movie? Go away you stupid loser nerd!' Now shut the **** up. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 04:54 PM Nope i was not wrong, nobody that matters was dissapointed and everyone does think that Heigl is ugly. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 04:56 PM Oh you mean like how you losers were attacking Spiderman 3 before it came out, or POTC or Simpsons, look in the mirror DC fluffer. See you are a loser and i am "****ing money". (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 06:44 PM In reply to this comment (#1032862) Are you ****in' kidding me? I was sticking up for Spider-Man 3 when the bashers attacked it! Same with Pirates and The Simpsons! Good christ, get your facts straight. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 06:45 PM In reply to this comment (#1032859) Ummm, you're wrong. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 08:28 PM You know what, I'm leaving this argument. It's pointless, endless, and it's a complete waste of time. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 08:47 PM Seriously stop talking to him, BATSPIDEYKONG. akknddon3 is about as intellegent as your average bell pepper. He keeps insisting that hes orange but you'll go insane trying to tell him that hes actually green... So I'm asking you, drop it and go get some watermellon... its also green but it tastes alot better. :D BTW akknddon3, this insanity induced post is dedicated to you. Talking to you makes me just go FLABBERNACKERS!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 08:55 PM In reply to this comment (#1033353) I've finally come to my senses. Bon voyage, aknddon. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 12 2007 10:36 PM So the trolls admit defeat. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 13 2007 01:31 AM In reply to this comment (#1033451) hello, loser remember me! well, let remind you how much i hate you and please leave the nice people alone and take your medicine mr. adkkon3. such an idiot and now bothering other people who have proven time and time again how wrong you are! But hey, Gamejediben, has point and we all are going to ignore you and hopefully then you can debate with the voices in your head due to the fact no one else on this site will ever want to talk to you ever agin. it is sad that such a promising and passionate Rotten tomato blogger is such a stupid and stubborn loser who can't admit he's wrong! and, yes even mr. spacey won't speak to you anymore as well so now i have to call you wrong! now, go or i'll send real trolls to your house and they'll shut you up for good! by making you watch fanatstic four!!! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 13 2007 06:02 AM In reply to this comment (#1033451) I'm not a troll. I didn't lose. I'm NOW leaving the argument. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 13 2007 06:07 AM In reply to this comment (#1033946) Well said. We should all agree to not respond to anything that idiot has to say. We've given him enough rope, he's hung himself time and time again, now let's just all agree to ignore him. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 13 2007 12:15 PM I am truly embarassed to have supported that idoiots point of view , he truly has no idea what he is talking about and honestly thinks his opinion is the truth. If you wanna debate something then do it with common sense , facts and a bit of class . Everyone has an opinion so feel free to express yours but accept and understnad others opinions aswell . Its ok to agree to disagree about movies and if you liked them or not , if everyone thought the same way then this would not have been as fun or interesting as it was to hear everyones thoughts and different points of view. Just dont be a JackA$$ like Aknddn3 ... So which forum is next to debate ??? this was good times ... (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 13 2007 12:50 PM In reply to this comment (#1036480) thanks, i almost lost myself to my rage over adkkon's opinions that i was almost turning into him! god, forbid that would ever happen someone please give me an old yeller special. i never want to act like him and hey violence is never the answer and to be as angry as he is would ruin me. so i am just going to keep to my opinion unless he who shall not be named starts insulting common knowledge or worse abusing others with such filthy language. man, calling poor, innocent batspideykong a troll. that was so evil adkkon3 and hope you apologize for that because as everyone knows no one likes trolls. so for the last time i liked tremendously superman returns and can't wait to see singer's masterpiece, predicted, coming up in the sequel. go singer and big blue! (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 13 2007 09:45 PM In reply to this comment (#1036621) same here. Damn you aknddon... and belated congrats to buck69, BTW. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 13 2007 10:05 PM ...and thanks couch. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 14 2007 04:53 AM In reply to this comment (#1036480) I'm glad you've seen the light, Uradik and I apologize for my comments. The purpose of any argument [or debate] is a search for truth. If you learn nothing, you gain nothing. Unfortunately, aknddon3 is either too immature or just too stupid to see that. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 14 2007 06:41 AM In reply to this comment (#1038406) No need to thank me for telling the truth, Batspideykong, but I appreciate the thought. (Reply to this) |
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on Aug 17 2007 10:00 PM Hey guys, I'm days late on this thread. But anyone who happens to stumble onto this thread and read aknddon3's posts HAS to see what a beligerent moron he is. Almost everything he says is completely opinionated or wrong. Katherine Heigl is not ugly in the least, Carmen Electra is (my opinion). Brandon Routh a buff-*** mofo (watch the featurettes on the DVD), and Marvel comics are easily the most cartoonish and dis-jointed comics there are; it shows in Marvel movies. Superman Returns is one of the few superhero films to nail its character spot-on. SR doesn't need to be like Batman Begins because Superman isn't Batman. They both deserve their individuality. The fact is, most Marvel films basically suck (if not avarage) and DC's new films (after the last two of Batman and Superman films) have been at least acceptable. I can't believe people compare Ghost Rider or Fantastic Four to Superman Returns. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. SR was a masterpiece compared to most Marvel films, especially those. Plus, Superman is a character that people have seen portrayed in live action for so long, they expect only a certain version of his history. X-Men, Batman, Spider-man, Iron Man; none have been made in live action at all and Batman was done terribly half the time until BB. I'm sorry about the rant. Believe what you want, but spare us all your opinion if you are a stuck-up a$$hole or you refuse to believe in blatent fact. Please. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 27 2007 01:05 PM In reply to this comment (#1015525) Brainiac wasn't created by Lex (the first time) he accually floats around the universe like galactis except he drains information instead of all the energy but i think that he destroys it or something. and if i'm not mistaken he was the cause of krypton's demise but if anyone wants to correct me go ahead cause i just know the basic plot and not all the details. (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2007 07:55 AM In reply to this comment (#1015615) they cant have doomsday...it would be awsome if they did...but superman just died in the last movie..it would be a repeat if they pur doomsday in the next movie...i would bizzaro (Reply to this) |
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on Sep 29 2007 07:55 AM In reply to this comment (#1015615) they cant have doomsday...it would be awsome if they did...but superman just died in the last movie..it would be a repeat if they pur doomsday in the next movie...i would bizzaro (Reply to this) |
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on Oct 12 2007 02:25 PM Lol 4 those haters out there Brandon Routh was a great Supes and I have a feeling one of the villains will be General Zod, Singer liked Zod (Reply to this) |
on Nov 02 2007 10:38 AM In reply to this comment (#1186553) I think you're right. I've been reading info on a few different sites, that say that Terrance Stamp will be villian # 2 (Reply to this) |
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