Weekly Ketchup: Disney Schedules Zootopia for 2016

Plus, new roles for Christian Bale, Kristen Wiig, Kirsten Dunst, and Vin Diesel.

The Dog Days of Summer brought us and Hollywood a sort of "meh" week in movie development news stories. Included in the mix in this week's Ketchup, however, are stories involving one of Disney's big animated movies for 2016 (Zootopia), new projects for directors Darren Aronofsky and the directors of Mud and Oblivion, and new roles for Vin Diesel and Kristen Wiig.


This Week's Top Story

DISNEY'S BIGGEST D23 ANNOUNCEMENT: THE 2016 ANIMATED MOVIE ZOOTOPIA

This weekend's D23 fan convention understandably arrived with a lot of expectations from fans of such Disney properties as Marvel and Star Wars. Those fandoms also have a lot of sway with the various online movie media sources, and so maybe that's why the big new movie that actually was unveiled at D23 barely got much coverage at all. Walt Disney Animation Studios has announced plans to release a CGI animated movie called Zootopia in the year 2016. Zootopia will be directed by Byron Howard, who previously directed the Rapunzel adaptation Tangled for Disney. Zootopia will be set in a version of Earth in which humans never existed, and so an animal-run city called Zootopia is instead the center of civilization, as members of the world's animal races live together, mostly at peace. The story will focus on a fast-talking fox who is framed for a crime he didn't commit, and so he has to go on the run, pursued by the city's top cop, a self-righteous rabbit. Disney also confirmed plans for the Cars spinoff sequel Planes: Fire & Rescue, which will be in theaters next summer, July 18, 2014. Besides this being a slow week with no more obvious "big story," Zootopia is also this week's top story just as a reminder that besides all the perpetual talk about superhero movies, at the end of every year lately, there's always a few animated kids movies in the top ten box office hits as well.

Fresh Developments This Week

#1 DARREN ARONOFSKY MAY DIRECT A FEMALE RUSSIAN SPY ADVENTURE CALLED RED SPARROW

Director Darren Aronofsky (The Fountain, The Wrestler, Black Swan) is currently working on post-production on his Biblical epic Noah for 20th Century Fox (the studio at which he also almost directed The Wolverine). Aronofsky apparently likes being in business with Fox, because this week, the director started early negotiations for another project at the studio. This project is an adaptation of the Jason Matthews novel Red Sparrow, and is a female spy adventure set in modern Russia, about an intelligence officer drafted to become a "sparrow, a trained seductress." In other words, this character is not Marvel's Black Widow, but Fox's Red Sparrow?


#2 KIRSTEN DUNST JOINS MIDNIGHT SPECIAL FOR DIRECTOR OF MUD AND TAKE SHELTER

His career may not have yet displayed the typical flourishes that seems to impress many movie fans, but there's little denying the impressive critical track record of director Jeff Nichols, whose latest films were Mud and Take Shelter. For his next film, Jeff Nichols is stepping up fully into the Hollywood big leagues, delivering a sci-fi drama called Midnight Special for Warner Bros. We've known for a while that Michael Shannon (Man of Steel) was going to be starring as a father who goes on the run with his eight year old son who starts displaying special powers (and the movie is compared to John Carpenter's Starman if that gives you hints). We now know that Kirsten Dunst has signed on to play the female lead, and that Joel Edgerton (who shows up again later in the column) is also cast in a role.


#3 KRISTEN WIIG TO HEADLINE INDIE DRAMA NASTY BABY

Speaking of critically acclaimed directors getting more attention (or in this case, specifically, star power), we have this news story for Chilean director Sebastian Silva (Crystal Fairy, Magic Magic). Silva's next movie will be a drama called Nasty Baby about a gay couple in Brooklyn who are trying to have a baby with the help of a female friend. Sebastian Silva himself and TV on the Radio's Tunde Adebimpe will play the gay couple, and if all talks go through well, Kristen Wiig will play the best friend and would-be surrogate mom in question. Nasty Baby will definitely be a drama, and not a comedy, but one can't help but remember there was that other time when two well-liked Saturday Night Live alumni starred in a surrogate mother movie... 2008's Baby Mama, starring Tina Fey and Amy Poehler.


#4 CHRISTIAN BALE AND JOEL EDGERTON TO SPAR, OLD TESTAMENT STYLE, IN EXODUS

The Bible is comprised of a lot of "books," but some of them are more commonly adapted into movies than others. Hollywood's favorite Biblical books include Genesis (like Darren Aronofsky's Noah), the Gospels of Mark and Matthew (for obvious reasons), and Exodus, which tells the story of Moses. The story of Moses is a Hollywood perennial and tradition that dates back to the earliest days of Silent Hollywood, and includes the Charlton Heston movie The Ten Commandments, and the very first DreamWorks animated movie, The Prince of Egypt. The Biblical epic genre is one that has been relatively untouched by modern Hollywood, but that's not necessarily for a lack of trying, as there have long been various projects (including a Moses project at Warner Bros called Gods and Kings). The studio that seems to be making the most actual progress on greenlighting such movies is 20th Century Fox, which has the Darren Aronofsky movie Noah scheduled for March 28, 2014. Fox has also scheduled for the same year (December 12, 2014) the Moses project Exodus, which will be directed by Ridley Scott (Robin Hood, Kingdom of Heaven, 1492: Conquest of Paradise). Christian Bale has been rumored as being in talks to play Moses for a while now, but it was this week that his casting was confirmed, along with the news that Joel Edgerton is in talks to play the Egyptian Pharoah Ramses. Edgerton comes to the role of Ramses after an initial offer was made to Javier Bardem (who worked with Ridley Scott on The Counselor), which eventually was rejected. Filming of Exodus is scheduled to start next month (September, 2013) at locations in Spain and Morocco. It's fairly easy to guess why this big budget Hollywood project about Ancient Egypt won't be filming in Egypt this year.


#5 VIN DIESEL TO SAY "I AM GROOT" IN MARVEL'S GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (WITHOUT ACTUALLY SAYING THAT)

Over the last month or so, Vin Diesel has posted a few hints online that led Marvel fans to speculate that his recent talks were regarding the roles of the cosmic conqueror Thanos or the android villain Vision. This past weekend, the speculation mostly came to an end when Vin Diesel (briefly) updated his Facebook profile photo with an image of Groot, the living and talking tree member of Guardians of the Galaxy. Soon after, Diesel was asked further about being cast as Groot, and it was a spectacular exercise in talking about a news story without ever coming straight out and officially confirming that which was being discussed. In other words, in discussing his role as a character best known for the catchphrase "I am Groot," Vin Diesel never actually said... "I am Groot." But he totally is.

Rotten Ideas of the Week

#4 INSIDE (STUDIO) BASEBALL: THE CONTINUING EFFECTS OF LEGENDARY'S DEPARTURE FROM WARNER BROS

Hollywood was shocked recently when it was announced that as of 2014, Legendary Pictures will be fully parked at Universal Pictures, instead of their longtime home, Warner Bros, where the production company gave us such movies as Christopher Nolan's Batman movies and The Hangover trilogy. This week, there were a series of stories that were rippling effects from that move, none of which were that exciting by themselves, but paint a larger picture for those who care about studio politics. First off, there was the deal that Legendary made with Warner Bros that gave up any rights to the Man of Steel sequel that will feature Batman, in trade for sharing with Warner Bros and Paramount the rights to next year's Christopher Nolan science fiction movie Interstellar. This was soon followed by the news that Warner Bros likewise no longer wants anything to do with Legendary's fantasy movie Seventh Son, starring Julianne Moore and Jeff Bridges, which was formerly going to be released on January 17, 2014. That movie will now be released (at some point) by Universal Pictures. That leaves just two Legendary productions still to be released by Warner Bros: the sequel 300: Rise of an Empire (March 7, 2014) and the monster remake Godzilla (May 16, 2014). All the other various projects that Legendary previously was working on at Warner Bros, like the video game adaptations Mass Effect and Warcraft, the toy movie Hot Wheels, and the Michael Mann science fiction movie Cyber are in studio limbo, though Universal Pictures is likely to pick up most of them. This story is listed as a Rotten Idea, just because the column doesn't have a middle ground. It's not easy to call these sort of stories "Fresh Developments" either.


#3 HERE'S EVEN MORE VIN DIESEL NEWS: SOLDIERS OF THE SUN

Finishing reading that story about Vin Diesel playing Groot in Guardians of the Galaxy, you may have thought, "well, that's enough Vin Diesel news for this week." Ah, but you would be wrong. You can never have enough Vin Diesel news. With that in mind, Vin Diesel has made a deal with Universal Pictures (the studio behind many Diesel projects, including the Fast and Furious and Riddick franchises) for a new science fiction action (potential) franchise called Soldiers of the Sun. Officially, Soldiers of the Sun isn't based on any pre-existing intellectual property, but... well, here's the story, and let's see if the commenters pick up on any similarities: Soldiers of the Sun will be set in a post-apocalyptic future and will focus on a squad of soldiers searching for a fabled city of gold in Mexico while liberating the area from the alien race known as orcs. Vin Diesel will produce and star in the project, which started as a spec script pitch from screenwriter Arash Amel, whose next film, the Grace Kelly biopic Grace of Monoco, doesn't sound anything at all like Warhammer 40,000. This is a Rotten Idea for no other reason than just because it isn't actually a Warhammer 40K movie.


#2 KALEY CUOCO, JOSH GAD, AND KEVIN HART TO STAR IN A WEDDING MOVIE... FOR DUDES

Kaley Cuoco (TV's The Big Bang Theory), Josh Gad (Broadway's The Book of Mormon) and comedian-turned-actor Kevin Hart (Think Like a Man) are all in various levels of negotiations to star in a currently untitled comedy to be directed by Jeremy Garelick, cowriter of such movies as The Breakup and The Hangover. Josh Gad and Kaley Cuoco will play an engaged couple at the center of the comic highjinx that arise when the groom makes up all nine of his groomsmen, owing to his being "socially challenged." (And yet, he wasn't so socially challenged that he wasn't able to get engaged to Kaley Cuoco.) Kevin Hart will play a businessman who offers exactly such services to engaged guys who don't have any friends to attend their wedding. The comedy formerly titled Best Man Inc will be produced and distributed as a coproduction of Screen Gems and Miramax, and should be a late night cable rerun movie staple by this time in 2016 or so.


#1 THE DIRECTOR OF OBLIVION AND TRON: LEGACY IS GOING TO THE TWILIGHT ZONE

Sometimes the news story title tells you pretty much the entire story. And such is the case here. As noted above, Warner Bros is sort of bleeding movie projects, and so, they're apparently moving forward with everything they still have left after Legendary's departure. That's the only way to make sense of the fact that we're going to be getting another movie version of The Twilight Zone (the first one was in 1983). Director Joseph Kosinski is now in talks with Warner Bros to direct the project, which will also be produced by Leonardo DiCaprio. This looks to be Kosinski's third movie, after the sequel TRON: Legacy and this year's box office disappointment Oblivion. In a sort of "meh" week, this story gets the "Most Rotten Idea" label by default, due mostly to Kosinski's previous films both being "Rotten" on the RT Tomatometer (though just barely). We don't yet know much else about this version of The Twilight Zone, except that it is not expected to be an "anthology" movie, but rather more of a standalone story, possibly with a "twist" ending of some sort.

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Comments

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Top Story:

Read "CGI animated movie" from Disney, lost almost all interest in it. Though one thing will be hilarious about this film, it's that all those "anti-furfags/furries" preachers are going to flip their shit over this movie.

Also, anything with Planes or anything involving ugly, anthropomorphic animated vehicles should be on the rotten area, not Top News.

Nothing else is interesting this week.

Aug 16 - 05:10 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

C'mon, your bias towards CG is unbecoming. Disney haven't made bad film since 2008, and your lack of appreciation is really grating at times. I don't want to be a douche, but you're limiting yourself, and that's not a good thing. Same could be said for your lack of interest in any stories.

Aug 16 - 05:34 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Since Fantasia 2000, Disney's only good animated films have been The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, The Princess & the Frog, Tangled, Winnie the Pooh, & Frankenweenie.

Sorry, I don't appreciate cash-grabbing schemes nor do I wish to work with them.

And, I normally talk about the others stories on here, but since there is nothing interesting, I don't bother.

Aug 16 - 06:00 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

I know, but speaking simply within the Animated Classics Canon, Wreck-It Ralph was great, as was Bolt. I'm glad you enjoyed Emperor's and Princess though, as they're some of my favourites, and I feel they don't get enough love.

Aug 16 - 06:07 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

I can't say my full thoughts on Wreck-it-Ralph, because I only saw the first half of that (and it was a highly uninteresting & predictable first half), & Bolt was about as interesting & original as That 101 Dalmations straight to DVD sequel.

The only reason The Princess & the Frog doesn't get enough love was because of a bunch of idiots that unnecessarily compare it to Disney's 90s films (which is just as great) or the crap from Pixar (as if that company has ever made anything close to the magic of a Disney film).

Ironic, The Emperor's new Groove is almost praised everywhere I go & see it's name mentioned.

Aug 16 - 06:16 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

Wreck it Ralph was anything but uninteresting. It was one of the most original and creative movies I've seen in a while.

Aug 16 - 06:48 PM

King  S.

King Simba

I thought the rating given to Princess and the Frog was pretty fair. It's a charming little film and the animation is beautiful, but it doesn't quite reach the emotional heights of the Disney films in the 90s or Pixar. Heck, since John Lasseter became Chief Creative Officer I think it's the second weakest film made since then ahead of only Meet the Robinsons, though that still makes it better than most of what Disney made before then. It also deserved a lot better than to get outgrossed by Alvin and the Chipmunks 2.

Also, I thought you'd be more excited for Zootopia given that it's from the director of Tangled, the one CGI film you actually love.

Aug 17 - 01:45 AM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

This animation elitism is really not a good trait in what should be a fair and balanced understanding of films. I prefer Disney films to Pixar myself, but I still acknowledge that Pixar have made more great films in the last decade than jut about anybody else.

Aug 17 - 07:48 AM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Simba

Princess & the Frog > anything Pixar has made.

And I don't really care who directs what film at Disney, unless it's Clements & Musker, but because it's directed by the guy who directed Tangled doesn't cover the fact that they still refuse to make more 2D. Zootopia sounds interesting, that's it, & unless they even bother to use Meander for that (the closest it'll get to hand drawn) then maybe my interest in it will rise more.

Aug 17 - 02:15 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Lance

Yeah, i did. Am I suddenly supposed to be off the walls excited for it because of that?

Aug 17 - 02:16 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Joseph

The only company I've seen make good films in the past decade is Ghibli. Pixar, with the exception of Wall-E, The Incredibles, & Monsters Inc, have made nothing but films that have bored me (don't even get me started on Cars).

Aug 17 - 02:18 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

You're thoughts on Pixar are akin to your thoughts on The Dark knight Trilogy: Irrational and hateful. A lot of your hatred for these films boils down too much to your personal preference which, while important in judging a film, leads, in this case, to you unfairly criticising a number of great films.

Aug 17 - 02:58 PM

King  S.

King Simba

Well, that's you opinion. Personally for me, while it was a charming film nothing really hit me as hard emotionally as say the opening of Finding Nemo, the marriage life scene of Up, the climax of Toy Story 3, any scene between Wall-e and Eve and so on.

And wait, are you saying that if they take the story of Zootopia and not change a single thing about it except what animation technique was used that automatically makes it much better?

Aug 17 - 02:59 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Joseph

I don't have any hate towards The Dark knight Trilogy (though that second one lacks most of the fun & thrills the other two have despite Ledger's performance), & I don't want to continue on that subject because it'll get way out of topic. And again, I don't have any reason to not show hatefulness to a studio that supposedly has 'huge fans' of old school Disney that don't bother to show it.

Aug 17 - 08:04 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Simba

I didn't say anything about making it better. Where dd you read that? I say that if the animation technique was changed that maybe MY INTEREST IN IT will rise. Not make it better.

Aug 17 - 08:06 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Why should they go about making a film in one style, when the other is just as good, and probably has more appeal these days? It's nothing to complain about, but you make out like it's hurting Disney, or doing fans a disservice.

Aug 18 - 04:30 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

As a fan, they're certainly doing a disservice, & that happens to be putting hand drawn animation further into it's already bad state of life support that it's in.

Aug 18 - 07:21 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

I disagree, as long as Ghibli (And indeed, anime in general) are around, 2D animation (Hand-drawn is long gone) will be perfectly fine.

Aug 19 - 08:20 AM

Josiah Coulter

Josiah Coulter

Jeeze, who pissed in your coffee? Disney has been doing a fantastic job as of late. The Princess and the Frog, Tangled, and Wreck-It Ralph were all FANTASTIC (yes, Wreck-It Ralph was incredible whether you think so or not). And WTF, how can you call Pixar crap? Sure they have had some missteps (every studio has), but Finding Nemo, WALL-E, Up, Monsters Inc, and the Toy Story films are right up there with The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, and Aladdin. They are gorgeous, emotional films!

Aug 17 - 12:03 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

They're garbage!

Aug 17 - 02:18 PM

Andrew StClair

Andrew StClair

Nearly every Pixar movie > Princess and the Frog. Let's be honest for a second and disregard the idea of it using traditional animation. Princess and the Frog was not particularly a good movie. It was a jumbled mess that presented people with a story that was interesting, and then ruined it with a story that wasn't. No good songs. Bad supporting characters. Really not much to like about the movie. That's the truth about that movie, and that's the truth about animated movies in general.

The truth is, animation style is hardly relevant. What's relevant is quality. A crappy story is a crappy story, regardless of the animation, and a crappy story is what Princess and the Frog had. Wreck-it-Ralph, Tangled, Bolt were all easily better than Princess and the Frog.

Also, I just want to mention that if you don't like cash grabbing schemes, then you probably should stop watching big studio movies in general. Or using internet pages, or... well, a large number of things.

Aug 17 - 04:47 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

The Princess & the Frog, a crappy story, bad songs, bad supporting characters, ¬ much to like?! HAH! Best joke I've heard in months. Next you're gonna tell me that Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was great, & that people just didn't understand it.

Also, I mean cash grabbing schemes when it comes to animation (further putting hand drawn in life support). I could give less of s shit about schemes when it comes to remakes, trailers, commercials, etc.

Aug 17 - 08:10 PM

Josiah Coulter

Josiah Coulter

Ugh, YOU are garbage. Those films are perfect. So much better than The Princess and the Frog!

Aug 17 - 11:05 PM

Josiah Coulter

Josiah Coulter

Not to mention, as fun and colorful and groundbreaking as The Little Mermaid was, it has one of the most anti-feminist storylines EVER. It TRIED to take a step forward, but really just took a few steps back in that department.

Aug 17 - 11:07 PM

Andrew StClair

Andrew StClair

Nope. I've never seen any of the Transformers movies, but since you have not refuted anything I've said about the Princess and the Frog, then I can say that what I posted was in no way false. The Princess and the Frog was not a good movie. Randy Newman does not write good songs. They had a perfectly cool story about a black who wanted to open up her own restaurant in the 1920s that got overshadowed by a gimmick of her becoming a frog. Her best friend was the only likeable side character.

It's good to see that your only attempt to support Princess and the Frog was to try to discredit me in someway. And in your attempt, you've chosen a movie that I have never seen. From a series of movies that I have never seen. From a director who's movies I have only seen one of. So, go ahead and try again. Pick another movie you think I've seen in your attempt to discredit me, rather than prove that anything I've said about the Princess and the Frog is wrong.

Also, the Princess and the Frog was a cash grabbing scheme.

Aug 17 - 11:34 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

ARE YOU KIDDING?????????FINDING NEMO, TOY STORY 1, 2, 3 ARE CLASSICS!!!!!!! as are The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King.

Aug 19 - 11:47 AM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Meh week is right.

Top Story: I think this is a great idea. Disney have been on fire since Bolt, and the fact that the people behind Tangled are in on this makes me very, very excited.

Fresh
Top Story: I love this idea. Disney has been on a hot streak since Bolt, and the fact that the people behind Tangled gives me high, high hopes.

Fresh
No. 1: Anything with Aronofsky is bound to be interesting. How has been approached to do what is essentially a summer blockbuster so many times though?

No. 2: I like Kirsten Dunst, even if she's not the most talented or versatile actress, she gets the job done. This being a Nichols film however, I expect the best.

No. 3: I don't quite know how to feel about this.

No. 4: This sounds great, but it has all the potential in the world to fail.

No. 5: Groot wouldn't have been my first pick (Again: Dormammu!), but it's some pretty great casting, nevertheless.

Rotten
No. 4: As long as Duncan Jones gets work (Be it Warcraft or not), I'll be satisfied. I think most studios would be wise to pair up with Disney. They give their individual wards room to breathe (Pixar and Marvel), and it's made them a killing.

No. 3: I like Vin Diesel, but I just can't drum up any excitement, or scorn, or anything for this film.

No. 2: Good God no.

No. 1: Warner Brothers are getting desperate, and it's showing.

Aug 16 - 05:15 PM

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Doreen Finley

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Aug 19 - 11:48 AM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

C'mon, your bias towards CG is unbecoming. Disney haven't made bad film since 2008, and your lack of appreciation is really grating at times. I don't want to be a douche, but you're limiting yourself, and that's not a good thing. Same could be said for your lack of interest in any stories.

Aug 16 - 05:34 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Since Fantasia 2000, Disney's only good animated films have been The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, The Princess & the Frog, Tangled, Winnie the Pooh, & Frankenweenie.

Sorry, I don't appreciate cash-grabbing schemes nor do I wish to work with them.

And, I normally talk about the others stories on here, but since there is nothing interesting, I don't bother.

Aug 16 - 06:00 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

I know, but speaking simply within the Animated Classics Canon, Wreck-It Ralph was great, as was Bolt. I'm glad you enjoyed Emperor's and Princess though, as they're some of my favourites, and I feel they don't get enough love.

Aug 16 - 06:07 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

I can't say my full thoughts on Wreck-it-Ralph, because I only saw the first half of that (and it was a highly uninteresting & predictable first half), & Bolt was about as interesting & original as That 101 Dalmations straight to DVD sequel.

The only reason The Princess & the Frog doesn't get enough love was because of a bunch of idiots that unnecessarily compare it to Disney's 90s films (which is just as great) or the crap from Pixar (as if that company has ever made anything close to the magic of a Disney film).

Ironic, The Emperor's new Groove is almost praised everywhere I go & see it's name mentioned.

Aug 16 - 06:16 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

Wreck it Ralph was anything but uninteresting. It was one of the most original and creative movies I've seen in a while.

Aug 16 - 06:48 PM

King  S.

King Simba

I thought the rating given to Princess and the Frog was pretty fair. It's a charming little film and the animation is beautiful, but it doesn't quite reach the emotional heights of the Disney films in the 90s or Pixar. Heck, since John Lasseter became Chief Creative Officer I think it's the second weakest film made since then ahead of only Meet the Robinsons, though that still makes it better than most of what Disney made before then. It also deserved a lot better than to get outgrossed by Alvin and the Chipmunks 2.

Also, I thought you'd be more excited for Zootopia given that it's from the director of Tangled, the one CGI film you actually love.

Aug 17 - 01:45 AM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

This animation elitism is really not a good trait in what should be a fair and balanced understanding of films. I prefer Disney films to Pixar myself, but I still acknowledge that Pixar have made more great films in the last decade than jut about anybody else.

Aug 17 - 07:48 AM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Simba

Princess & the Frog > anything Pixar has made.

And I don't really care who directs what film at Disney, unless it's Clements & Musker, but because it's directed by the guy who directed Tangled doesn't cover the fact that they still refuse to make more 2D. Zootopia sounds interesting, that's it, & unless they even bother to use Meander for that (the closest it'll get to hand drawn) then maybe my interest in it will rise more.

Aug 17 - 02:15 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Lance

Yeah, i did. Am I suddenly supposed to be off the walls excited for it because of that?

Aug 17 - 02:16 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Joseph

The only company I've seen make good films in the past decade is Ghibli. Pixar, with the exception of Wall-E, The Incredibles, & Monsters Inc, have made nothing but films that have bored me (don't even get me started on Cars).

Aug 17 - 02:18 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

You're thoughts on Pixar are akin to your thoughts on The Dark knight Trilogy: Irrational and hateful. A lot of your hatred for these films boils down too much to your personal preference which, while important in judging a film, leads, in this case, to you unfairly criticising a number of great films.

Aug 17 - 02:58 PM

King  S.

King Simba

Well, that's you opinion. Personally for me, while it was a charming film nothing really hit me as hard emotionally as say the opening of Finding Nemo, the marriage life scene of Up, the climax of Toy Story 3, any scene between Wall-e and Eve and so on.

And wait, are you saying that if they take the story of Zootopia and not change a single thing about it except what animation technique was used that automatically makes it much better?

Aug 17 - 02:59 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Joseph

I don't have any hate towards The Dark knight Trilogy (though that second one lacks most of the fun & thrills the other two have despite Ledger's performance), & I don't want to continue on that subject because it'll get way out of topic. And again, I don't have any reason to not show hatefulness to a studio that supposedly has 'huge fans' of old school Disney that don't bother to show it.

Aug 17 - 08:04 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Simba

I didn't say anything about making it better. Where dd you read that? I say that if the animation technique was changed that maybe MY INTEREST IN IT will rise. Not make it better.

Aug 17 - 08:06 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Why should they go about making a film in one style, when the other is just as good, and probably has more appeal these days? It's nothing to complain about, but you make out like it's hurting Disney, or doing fans a disservice.

Aug 18 - 04:30 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

As a fan, they're certainly doing a disservice, & that happens to be putting hand drawn animation further into it's already bad state of life support that it's in.

Aug 18 - 07:21 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

I disagree, as long as Ghibli (And indeed, anime in general) are around, 2D animation (Hand-drawn is long gone) will be perfectly fine.

Aug 19 - 08:20 AM

Susan Stanton

Elizabeth Anthony

Do not support corporate greed. Let Disney go bankrupt so that arthouse films such as I Spit on Your Grave 2 can thrive.

Aug 16 - 05:37 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Yeah, let's all show how cool and reflexive we are!

Aug 16 - 05:38 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Isn't this person always like this?

Aug 16 - 06:17 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Yep...

Aug 17 - 07:43 AM

EdP-Review

edgar perez

"corporate greed"... its easy to call it that when you dont have your own company. lets see when and if you do, if you dont spend every dollar you can on publicity and marketing to promote your products.

Aug 16 - 07:36 PM

Dave J

Dave J

Your definition of art house films is definitely different than mine! The term 'art house' and horror films usually don't go with one another in the same sentence!

Aug 16 - 09:56 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Yeah, let's all show how cool and reflexive we are!

Aug 16 - 05:38 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Isn't this person always like this?

Aug 16 - 06:17 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Yep...

Aug 17 - 07:43 AM

Ian Malcolm

Ian Malcolm

Sorry ah RT but I ah find the ah rotten #1 to be the ah freshest development ah here.

Aug 16 - 05:39 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Since Fantasia 2000, Disney's only good animated films have been The Emperor's New Groove, Lilo & Stitch, The Princess & the Frog, Tangled, Winnie the Pooh, & Frankenweenie.

Sorry, I don't appreciate cash-grabbing schemes nor do I wish to work with them.

And, I normally talk about the others stories on here, but since there is nothing interesting, I don't bother.

Aug 16 - 06:00 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

I know, but speaking simply within the Animated Classics Canon, Wreck-It Ralph was great, as was Bolt. I'm glad you enjoyed Emperor's and Princess though, as they're some of my favourites, and I feel they don't get enough love.

Aug 16 - 06:07 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

I can't say my full thoughts on Wreck-it-Ralph, because I only saw the first half of that (and it was a highly uninteresting & predictable first half), & Bolt was about as interesting & original as That 101 Dalmations straight to DVD sequel.

The only reason The Princess & the Frog doesn't get enough love was because of a bunch of idiots that unnecessarily compare it to Disney's 90s films (which is just as great) or the crap from Pixar (as if that company has ever made anything close to the magic of a Disney film).

Ironic, The Emperor's new Groove is almost praised everywhere I go & see it's name mentioned.

Aug 16 - 06:16 PM

Typhon

Typhon Q

Wreck it Ralph was anything but uninteresting. It was one of the most original and creative movies I've seen in a while.

Aug 16 - 06:48 PM

King  S.

King Simba

I thought the rating given to Princess and the Frog was pretty fair. It's a charming little film and the animation is beautiful, but it doesn't quite reach the emotional heights of the Disney films in the 90s or Pixar. Heck, since John Lasseter became Chief Creative Officer I think it's the second weakest film made since then ahead of only Meet the Robinsons, though that still makes it better than most of what Disney made before then. It also deserved a lot better than to get outgrossed by Alvin and the Chipmunks 2.

Also, I thought you'd be more excited for Zootopia given that it's from the director of Tangled, the one CGI film you actually love.

Aug 17 - 01:45 AM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

This animation elitism is really not a good trait in what should be a fair and balanced understanding of films. I prefer Disney films to Pixar myself, but I still acknowledge that Pixar have made more great films in the last decade than jut about anybody else.

Aug 17 - 07:48 AM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Simba

Princess & the Frog > anything Pixar has made.

And I don't really care who directs what film at Disney, unless it's Clements & Musker, but because it's directed by the guy who directed Tangled doesn't cover the fact that they still refuse to make more 2D. Zootopia sounds interesting, that's it, & unless they even bother to use Meander for that (the closest it'll get to hand drawn) then maybe my interest in it will rise more.

Aug 17 - 02:15 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Lance

Yeah, i did. Am I suddenly supposed to be off the walls excited for it because of that?

Aug 17 - 02:16 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Joseph

The only company I've seen make good films in the past decade is Ghibli. Pixar, with the exception of Wall-E, The Incredibles, & Monsters Inc, have made nothing but films that have bored me (don't even get me started on Cars).

Aug 17 - 02:18 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

You're thoughts on Pixar are akin to your thoughts on The Dark knight Trilogy: Irrational and hateful. A lot of your hatred for these films boils down too much to your personal preference which, while important in judging a film, leads, in this case, to you unfairly criticising a number of great films.

Aug 17 - 02:58 PM

King  S.

King Simba

Well, that's you opinion. Personally for me, while it was a charming film nothing really hit me as hard emotionally as say the opening of Finding Nemo, the marriage life scene of Up, the climax of Toy Story 3, any scene between Wall-e and Eve and so on.

And wait, are you saying that if they take the story of Zootopia and not change a single thing about it except what animation technique was used that automatically makes it much better?

Aug 17 - 02:59 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Joseph

I don't have any hate towards The Dark knight Trilogy (though that second one lacks most of the fun & thrills the other two have despite Ledger's performance), & I don't want to continue on that subject because it'll get way out of topic. And again, I don't have any reason to not show hatefulness to a studio that supposedly has 'huge fans' of old school Disney that don't bother to show it.

Aug 17 - 08:04 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

@Simba

I didn't say anything about making it better. Where dd you read that? I say that if the animation technique was changed that maybe MY INTEREST IN IT will rise. Not make it better.

Aug 17 - 08:06 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Why should they go about making a film in one style, when the other is just as good, and probably has more appeal these days? It's nothing to complain about, but you make out like it's hurting Disney, or doing fans a disservice.

Aug 18 - 04:30 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

As a fan, they're certainly doing a disservice, & that happens to be putting hand drawn animation further into it's already bad state of life support that it's in.

Aug 18 - 07:21 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

I disagree, as long as Ghibli (And indeed, anime in general) are around, 2D animation (Hand-drawn is long gone) will be perfectly fine.

Aug 19 - 08:20 AM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

I know, but speaking simply within the Animated Classics Canon, Wreck-It Ralph was great, as was Bolt. I'm glad you enjoyed Emperor's and Princess though, as they're some of my favourites, and I feel they don't get enough love.

Aug 16 - 06:07 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

I can't say my full thoughts on Wreck-it-Ralph, because I only saw the first half of that (and it was a highly uninteresting & predictable first half), & Bolt was about as interesting & original as That 101 Dalmations straight to DVD sequel.

The only reason The Princess & the Frog doesn't get enough love was because of a bunch of idiots that unnecessarily compare it to Disney's 90s films (which is just as great) or the crap from Pixar (as if that company has ever made anything close to the magic of a Disney film).

Ironic, The Emperor's new Groove is almost praised everywhere I go & see it's name mentioned.

Aug 16 - 06:16 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Isn't this person always like this?

Aug 16 - 06:17 PM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

Yep...

Aug 17 - 07:43 AM

Marc Cerone

Marc "Cerone" Chaudry

Planes 2........ Reeeeeeeally???

Aug 16 - 06:21 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

That's news from like 2 or 3 weeks ago.

Aug 16 - 06:28 PM

Jason B.

Jason Black

Disney Toons (the production company that made the Planes movie) originally planned the spin-off as a straight to DVD trilogy. I think they're already done with all three of the movies or at least very far ahead. It was a last minute decision to give the Planes movies theatrical releases and the box office doesn't really matter on them since they were all made with a low straight to dvd budget.

Aug 16 - 08:26 PM

Keith Allison

Keith Allison

Dane Cook's got to eat.

Aug 17 - 08:08 AM

Wyatt Person

Wyatt Person

The souls of little children.

Aug 18 - 04:30 PM

J.D Dean

J.D Dean

Anyone else think that Josh Gad's new movie sounds pretty similar to I Love You Man?

Aug 16 - 06:27 PM

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