ROTTEN TOMATOES: Terminator 4: Rise of the McG? Comments

Terminator 4: Rise of the McG?

by Jeff Giles | October 04, 2007

Summary

It looks like those rumors about Terminator 4 arriving in 2009 might have been on target -- according to a report published at CHUD on Tuesday, the sequel has been fast-tracked at Halcyon, and may even have found its director. Back to Article

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iakobos writes:
on Oct 04 2007 06:43 AM

I predict 20% on the tomato meter. But so far I've liked'em all, some less than others; T-1 is still the the best) and I'll probably dig this one too.

Recalling the scenes of the future from T-1, it will be cool to see them bring that to the screen with CGI. IMO, Vin Diesel's as good a choice as anyone for a series that isn't likely to impress the critics and who knows we may like it anyway.

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jasperoosterveld writes:
on Oct 04 2007 06:55 AM

This sounds ****ing bad, and the news get worse everytime! Are you joking me?? The director of charlies angels? Those two movies enqual the quality of uwe boll movies..damn.

Hollywood is run by businessman who don't give a **** about artist and creativity, it's all about money. What a disgrace.

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dahluzz writes:
on Oct 04 2007 07:01 AM

sweet title alert - Terminator Wars: T-War. oh and vin deisel can have a tricked out future car with future NoS or somethin. in the hands of McG, who seems to get sexually aroused by anything in slow motion, this movie has no chance of not sucking. audiences will be laughing at vin diesel trying to play ahnold trying to play a cybernetic killing machine. no amount of freedom fighting will be able to save this movie's future. consider the battle lost and the fracnshise dead after this turd drops.

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frogleg writes:
on Oct 04 2007 07:37 AM

LOL.

Yeah. McG. Great.

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lavatory love machine writes:
on Oct 04 2007 08:09 AM

those charlie's angels movie rank with the worst movies ever made

maybe he can do a good action film with a good scypt, but he's a hack

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crystalwhiteeyes writes:
on Oct 04 2007 08:27 AM

"Terminator 4 is really the movie we've been waiting for and that Terminator 3 failed to deliver"

What? something worse that T3? You've already failed by getting McG to direct. His resume speaks volumes of the word failure! Why do you need to have Vin as the Terminator? You don't need any actors for it. Have the endo-skeletons fight the war as we have seem several times before. It's not that complicated! Vin being a soldier for John Connor makes more sense.

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DanielLee8793 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 08:42 AM

vin? maybe?

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dipstick writes:
on Oct 04 2007 08:50 AM

Vin Diesdel i can maybe live with but... McG? McG has never made anything thats close to being a good movie. I'm not believe McG even understands what a good movie is and I don't believe he's capable of making one. John Mctiernan, David Cronenberg, Ridley Scott, Tony Scott, John Carpenter, Paul Verhoven, Kathryn Bigelow, John Milius or even Stan Winston... Out of all the directors out there, why would they even consider McG to make a terminator sequel? Are those guys at Halcyon trying to kill their company and ruin the terminator saga by making the worst sequel ever? This is very bad news.

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nathanpoitras writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:12 AM

Not McG for the love of good movies, not McG! He's one of the biggest hacks in Hollywood.

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Eldorado writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:13 AM

They need an actual actor to play the terminator cause that's how they infiltrate the resistance ..

You don't think someone would notice a metal endo walking around?

Dude - 'Who is it?'
Terminator - 'I'm a resistance fighter like you'
Dude - 'ok come on in...Hey you look skinny, lets get you something to eat'
Terminator - 'haha fooled you!'

Think people, think!

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Ace69 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:15 AM

Vin i could see as a freedom fighter not as a terminator but if hes gonna be a terminator hes gonna need some "JUICE" lolz

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mjolson20 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:21 AM

for real tarantino should direct and get stallone, willis, diesel, the rock, and arnold in it that'd be tight make over 200 million no qestion

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dahluzz writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:33 AM

mjolson20, that was the stupidest thing i've ever read... like EVER. I mean as easy as it would be to get the whole planet hollywood crew plus dwayne and vin, not to mention how simple it would be to get tarantino to direct (and of course write, since he only directs his own scripts), i think that it would just be too much of a good thing - NOT. you're a retarded retard for even thinking that, let alone sharing.

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Heath H. writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:55 AM

They should get Christopher Nolan or Bryan Singer to direct. They can't do Batman or Superman anyway because of the damn 'Justice Leauge of America' movie.

And they should ditch Vin and try to get back Ahnold. If they can't, who cares, just give us exoskeletons.

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renodc writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:59 AM

Instead of this being an origin story, I would much rather see an older John Conner find a way to prevent the Machines from travelling into the past, and ultimately have one large final push in the war to put a definitive end to this series. They've milked this franchise creatively as much as they possibly can.

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renodc writes:
on Oct 04 2007 10:00 AM

In reply to this comment (#1168055)
Oh and for the love of God, surely they can find someone better than McG.

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Bloody Mathias writes:
on Oct 04 2007 10:29 AM

This franchise was built on the back of James Cameron and without him, any Terminotr movie, game, book, or poster will suck. T-3 ruined the franchise and T-4 with Vin and McG looks to turn it into a laughingstock.

With Rob Cohen ruining The Mummy.
Mcg and Johnathan Mostow ruining The Termintor.
Joe Johnson ruined Jurrasic Park.

I'm getting really, really sick of hack directors destroying everything we love about movies by getting their filthy and untalented hands over every franchise that excites me.

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Darkscriber writes:
on Oct 04 2007 10:33 AM

McG as director? Why don't you just get Uwe Boll to be the writer, and get Joel "f**ktard" Schmacher as the producer...wait let's not give Hollywood any ideas. They are scraping the barrel as it is.

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andygates23 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 10:52 AM

I'll say this for McG, he produces one of the best shows on TV: Supernatural. But as a director he needs serious help.

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sickofitall writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:07 AM

In reply to this comment (#1167755)
you are a disgrace scumbag

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sguy78 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:10 AM

Ugh... Charlie's Angels? And Vin Diesel? Look, I don't particularly hate Vin Diesel, he can be entertaining in given movies (Pitch Black). Terminator does not fit him. What the hell are they thinking getting this director for Terminator? This does not look good. Lining the pockets, lining the pockets.

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rgallitan writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:26 AM

I gotta give them credit for making the "Planet of the Apes" connection. Of course, none of the "Apes" sequels were very good, but they did find an equilibrium of badness that's enjoyable for people who like that sort of thing. Most franchises - keep in mind - only get worse over the first 3-4 movies. By that point they've either collapsed completely, or hit a tolerable, maintainable stride that they can carry as long as they want. It looks like Terminator could follow in that tradition. I won't watch it, but I'm not angry about it either.

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Heath H. writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:39 AM

Well I'm for one pissed. T3 was bad, but this is a WHOLE new kind of low. Sounds like it'll hit the top 100 worst movies ever list.

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rgallitan writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:50 AM

And enough with this talk of destroying the works of great directors. Jaws is still very much a classic, thankyouverymuch, no matter what horrors befell the series at SeaWorld. Psycho's place in history has been untarnished by its three sequels. And Cameron's Terminator films will be remembered fondly long after this new, parasitic franchise has been forgotten.

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blank blank writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:51 AM

i'd rather have rob schneider to write, direct, and produce a remake of the godfather with the following cast:

vito: lewis black
sonny: dane cook
fredo: wilmer valderrama
micheal: rob schneider
tom hagen: ryan seacrest
connie: sarah silverman

than watch another McG movie.

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Heath H. writes:
on Oct 04 2007 12:39 PM

Rob Schneider is- 'The Carrot!'

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Heath H. writes:
on Oct 04 2007 01:54 PM

In all seriousness, this 'new trilogy' may end up even worse than the 'Resident Evil' film trilogy.

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Uradik Smoke writes:
on Oct 04 2007 02:06 PM

I think i just threw up a lil in my mouth ... McG are they efffffin serious , this dude is a hack and has no done anything good to date in any way shape or form ...

Mr Diesil i could live with , i mean he has to play a robot and his acting has been compared to a robot so i think he would be fine , Though i think using Vin is just a cop out of every one who is looking for a "Buff" dude to be in a movie ...

Why not look around for someone else to be a Terminator , I Personally think Wentworth Miller from Prison Break could totally pull this off , not to mention all the new fans and female fans you might snag with casting him . Also i think Gerard Butler could pull the look off and he has the acting chops to play a Terminator ...

Anyway thats just my thoughts , McG is trash and if he is involved we can alreay write this movie off ...

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Bigbrother writes:
on Oct 04 2007 02:38 PM

I'm gonna have to stand on principle here and refuse to see anything directed by a grown man who refers to himself by the name "McG".

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bluestar50 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 02:51 PM

In reply to this comment (#1168187)
They'd need to cast Adam Sandler too. He's really good friends with Rob Schneider. Oh and also David Spade. LOL.

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therottenworld writes:
on Oct 04 2007 03:25 PM

If they make this movie...just sell it on dvd and blue ray only.

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eastern2western writes:
on Oct 04 2007 03:30 PM

James cameron needs to spend his titanic money on buying back the rights of terminator because greedy producers are destroying his legendary characters.

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Trenton writes:
on Oct 04 2007 04:32 PM

I would shoot myself in the face.

if it happens, twenty bucks on Terminator: Full Throttle.

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gsundt writes:
on Oct 04 2007 04:56 PM

"Terminator 4 is really the movie we've been waiting for and that Terminator 3 failed to deliver..."

What?

#1) Terminator 3 has a 71% on the Tomatometer. Granted, it wasn't Terminator 2-awesome, but it wasn't Charlie's Angels-crap either.

#2) Vin Diesel? Um... No. They think they can throw a wooden actor into Arnold's shoes, and that will help the situation. It won't. Just because Vin lacks fluctuation in vocal tone doesn't mean he is a good replacement.

#3) McG? Why? Do they hate us? He made Charlie's Angels. He produced Stay Alive. Nuff said.

I have decided that movie executives hate moviegoers. They just want to punish us for absolutely nothing. We saw all three of your movies! We gave you our money! What more do you want from us?

*sobs*

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Heath H. writes:
on Oct 04 2007 04:58 PM

In reply to this comment (#1168607)
I ask myself the same question gsundt...

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badmoviecritic writes:
on Oct 04 2007 06:05 PM

i just had to chime in, this sounds horrible, i agree with every one groaning about mcg, charlie's angels 2, man i wish i hadnt seen that movie coz it was horrid, and blank blank, id see the movie u described in a heart beat

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ManofStee1 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 06:06 PM

05% is my prediction. Won't be seeing it.

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badmoviecritic writes:
on Oct 04 2007 06:06 PM

i just had to chime in, this sounds horrible, i agree with every one groaning about mcg, charlie's angels 2, man i wish i hadnt seen that movie coz it was horrid, and blank blank, id see the movie u described in a heart beat

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TheAnswerMVP2001 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 06:09 PM

McG has his finger in every pie here lately, one thing I really want to know is that his real name or possibly a shorten version. Though a guess calling your kid Apple is stranger than McG. Anyways there should be no more Terminator films if Arnold is not the lead...period.

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Cupcakemafia writes:
on Oct 04 2007 06:38 PM

I really like Vin Diesel, and i think he could be a good character that isnt too main and on the resistance side.

No comment about the director.

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Ruckas356 writes:
on Oct 04 2007 09:46 PM

definatly like the isea of the story and the world it will be set in(and hey isnt furlong an old man now anyway lol) and vin could pull of haveing to act like a robot(cause thats how he acts anyway)so i tink it will be very watchable. Nothing brillent but watchable.

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Rated_Xpert writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:33 PM

3 words: STRAIGHT TO DVD

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shield_fx writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:34 PM

I agree... Fast Track with a lousy hack director means only one thing. Like Dahluzz said a big Turd Drop!!!!!!!!! After the 3rd one I really have no interest in this series unless a great director like James Cameron took the lead

Oh well, I am really excited about the next Batman movie..

And please no more Jurassic PArk.

Vin Diseal would be ok.

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Rated_Xpert writes:
on Oct 04 2007 11:36 PM

Vin D can be delt with BUT MCG! Damn I hate hollywood they screw everything up. MC fricken G! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Why do they hurt us so?

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jasperoosterveld writes:
on Oct 05 2007 02:36 AM

To bad the studio and the ****ty director won't read this website.

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bamb0o-stick writes:
on Oct 05 2007 03:54 AM

This franchise is ****ing terminated...

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Heath H. writes:
on Oct 05 2007 07:01 AM

Yeah, it ran into a wall with T3, but this is the official tombstone.

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Heath H. writes:
on Oct 05 2007 07:02 AM

Yeah, it ran into a wall, a very big wall, with T3, but this is the official tombstone.

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Jenkinsbball writes:
on Oct 05 2007 08:33 AM

Any movie with McG directing = box office flop, well, not really, but it should be. That guy has the directing talent of a 3 year old (Ecks v. Sever).

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Jenkinsbball writes:
on Oct 05 2007 08:39 AM

Oops, my bad. He didn't direct EvS. Oh well, he still sucks.

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TrisTan2007 writes:
on Oct 06 2007 07:26 AM

McG a director and Vin Diesel a terminator? HELP!!! Jees, what's up with these people? I had never imagined terminator would ever be made by anyone other than James Cameroon. I was wrong, but at least Arnold was there in the last venture. Now, it doesn't have Cameroon and it doesn't have Arnold and who is replacing Arnold? Vin Diesel? ****!!

At least "The Rock" would be somewhat consolation as Arnold's replacement, not a xXx freak from Riddick.

Anyway, whats up with "The Rock"? He's becoming a king of stupid movies after "Rundown".

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AcE! writes:
on Oct 06 2007 08:14 PM

What the hell is going on with all these big budget or highly popular films? Every movie that people have been hyped for or hoped to be good has ended up with a terrible director and then proceeded to royally suck or dissapoint. Transformers-Michael Bay. Xmen 3-Brett Ratner. Daredevil-That Mark guy whats his name. Other movies like Elektra, I dont even know who did that one but they suck too. AVP had to end up with Paul W.S. Anderson. Ugh. Fantastic 4/2RotSS- Tim Story. AGAIN? What the crap why would you get a person who normally directs bad comedies to do a super hero epic? The halo movie's got a no name and those shorts are absolutely awful. And now terminators joining the bunch. A movie that lots of people would love to see succeed and be a great film, but alas it ends up with a lackluster director probably doomed to fail.

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BLACKBUDDAH writes:
on Oct 07 2007 09:55 AM

They should get the guy who played colossus in x-men to be the new terminator

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tabascoman77 writes:
on Oct 07 2007 10:36 AM

Probably just another stupid rumor.

I would think that Hollywood execs would be to smart to hire McG for ANYTHING after "Charlie's Angels Full Throttle" and "Fastlane".

The Vin Diesel bit also sounds like somebody's just trying to start a rumor as a bad joke. I would think The Rock would make a better Terminator, myself. He's got the frame, the look, and that badass demeanor.

But, if all of what they're saying is true and studio execs truly wanna make a piece of ****, they should just go the full nine and top the movie off with Don Rickles and Jamie Kennedy with Lindsay Lohan in the female lead and Britney Spears performing both the score AND singing a new "hit song".

She could even dance around with lasers zinging past her head while she dry humps and pole-dances on a T-800 and has simulated sex with a T-1000 that keeps switching between being a chick and a dude.

Hell, I'm sure Nancy Meyers would be happy to direct since she's the queen of train wrecks.

And, if they're not too busy, maybe we can have a combination of writers from, say, the remakes of The Longest Yard and The Stepford Wives.

I smell huge box office.

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MMFODI writes:
on Oct 07 2007 12:40 PM

They should have Joel Schumacher take over the series. The Terminator series could use a touch more of fluorescence. Maybe they could give John Conner an annoying sidekick as well...

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Wlad writes:
on Oct 07 2007 08:11 PM

I sorta liked T-3 (especially the ending), but I hope that this rumor is only a joke.

Cameron please, come back :(

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daveyhatton writes:
on Oct 07 2007 10:09 PM

I must be in the minority because I thought that T3 rocked. I thought it is was the best paced of the trilogy, and tied some loose ends that T2 left dangling. (Judgement Day invevitable)

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2.35:1 writes:
on Oct 07 2007 11:43 PM

Haven't the studios learned anything yet? The fans are gonna f**king loathe this project if McG directs. And why have the Sarah Conner TV show on AND do a T4?

And to be honest, if Vin's gonna be in it, he should be a soldier in the resistance. It would just be more interesting. This isn't the '80s anymore... the Terminator needs to be less hyperbolic and more realistic (ironically, like Cameron ORIGINALLY intended [though Arnold was still great!]).

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Lukemitch25 writes:
on Oct 09 2007 02:24 AM

First of all, the series died when they cut Jim Cameron out of the loop. Second of all, if they are going to redeem anything from that POS Terminator 3, they'll need to center this story around Kyle Reese. I pictured the third film about John trying to keep his father safe from a machine sent back to kill him. Wouldn't that have been a beautiful full circle?

They need to show us all of the gadgets, gizmos, and situations awaiting John or his father in the future. They need to remember that the original infiltration units were very easy to spot. They won't have sweat glands. They should look like plastic. They need to really go back, and actually read Cameron's original screenplay. They need a better understanding of the Terminator universe.

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Lukemitch25 writes:
on Oct 09 2007 02:28 AM

In reply to this comment (#1168444)
It's a shame that they were ever taken away from him, but he's on to bigger and better things. I don't even think James Cameron is capable of cleaning up the mess that was T3.

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Lukemitch25 writes:
on Oct 09 2007 02:46 AM

In reply to this comment (#1175865)
And, I'm sorry, but Terminator 3 rocked?? I didn't just read that. I couldn't have.

I mean, "She'll be back"? "Talk to the hand"? Give me a break. That takes me back to the Elton John glasses gag. Cameron was pushing limits when he threw in the wonderful sunglasses gag in T2, but the Elton John thing was an insult, through and through. And the bit with the keys in the visor? WTF? It didn't make sense in any, way, shape or form in the Terminator franchise.

Cameron would've made us say, "My God!" as he's always done. T3 made everyone in the theater practically sick from its blatant stupidity and copy format. It copies almost everything great in The Terminator and Terminator 2, and stupifies it all.

The bottom line is Cameron's two Terminator films will stand the test of time, but everything from T3 on will be as forgettable as the Planet of the Apes sequels. Does anyone even remember what they were about or who was in them?

Hey, anyone see Cameron's T2: 3-D? Boy, that was an awesome experience. The mini hunters were amazing. I sure will miss all of those wonderfully creative gizmos from James Cameron's original concepts.

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John Sabala writes:
on Nov 25 2007 04:46 PM

Vin Deisel is the right man for the job in my experienced about movies that alot of true hard core fans agree with. And i challenge anyone who says different. challengeing in ways on how much they keep up with movies. Vin Deisel was real good in chronicals of riddick trilogy. It was his attitude That made the character riddick work. And his voice is unique in every way. A teminator 4 which I hope he stars in will shut alot of peoples theory about his acting. I will laugh at them for thinking that he couldn't do it. His unique voice will make the terminator sound real cool. And his carizma will be matching his voice. You will all see how he pulls it off.

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T4SucksAlready writes:
on Mar 22 2008 05:56 PM

Its not because Arnie is NOT going to make a presence or even agree to a CGI based appearance. The liscensing issues, IT definitely ain't happening ARNIE fans. EVER.

The original owners (Mario Kassar) or whatever of the trilogy are trying to hang on to all the money. (Franchise royalties, distribution profits) The whole francised is screwed until real life 2021.

Thats why T3 sucked.

Its going to suck because the thousands of fans have asked for the last 9-14 years for a post-apocalyptic battle sequences and some story based in the ruins of Los-Angeles. Perhaps a futuristic scene of the cavernous Skynet head-quarters production facility and Skynet time-travel machine with KYLE REESE jumping in it.

But since we never get any of what the fans ask for, I decided my Username for the next 28 months is T4SucksAlready.

How about Arnold in a Wheelchair with Mini-guns welded on the sides. Is that
too much to ask for?

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mjolson20 writes:
on Apr 28 2009 03:13 AM

In reply to this comment (#1168040)
Haha looking back at it you were right that was probably one of the dumbest things I have ever said.

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