This is the problem when you're an exceptional, visionary filmmaker. When you give people something extraordinary, they expect it every time. Anything short of that feels like a letdown.
uh oh, good luck Ms. Lemire
Jul 16 - 01:48 PM
Upset the established order, and everything becomes Chaos.
Jul 16 - 02:02 PM
Zauri Severino Junior
That's the problem with fanboys. It happened with The Avengers as well at the first sign of a negative review, that it also came from a women. I hope that the Nolanites have at least the of behaving like adults. Not everyone will love this film, and you people making death threats and mysoginistic remarks won't make any better. Here's a suggestion to Rotten Tomatoes: Instead of banning a top critic like Eric Snider, one that will probably love the film, how about banning the users that make death threats and mysoginistic posts on reviews with an antagonistic view of what the fanboys are expecting?
As for TDKR. The Amazing Spider-Man, very much like Batman Begins, it's a film with HEART. I care about Peter Parker as much as - if not more than - I did for Bruce Wayne. Unlike Christy, despite Ledger's performance, I don't like TDK because it's basically the Joker show and Batman is just... there, there's no story arc for him despite been the representative of the 1%, an analogy that I'm not pleased with, since Batman is my second favorite comic book character. TDK is a good film, but isn't a good Batman film in my book, like Batman Begins is.
This movie will make money. This movie will have positive and negative reviews, fanboys acting like Twilight fangirls won't help the film's case. But regardless how muc money this makes, The Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man are the true winners of 2012 in my book. I love Batman, and I'm hoping for a reboot where he is more than a politic allegory for things that aren't faithful on what the character truly represents. I'm still hoping for the true Batman film, just like I've waited for the true Spider-Man fan that Marc Webb delivered this Summer. When it's all said and done, the fanboys saying unspeakable things here are just showing a dark side of the fanbase that I'm truly not proud for. The ones bashing Christy aren't TRUE Batman fans. They are Nolanites. And they are no better than any Twilight fangirl screaming Team Edward or Team Taylor Swift's boyfriend.
Jul 16 - 02:06 PM
Well said DUDe, WEll said.
Except for The dark knight i completely thinks is a predictable and cliche, and impratical as far as logic goes, movie. I still, like you, am waiting for the true batman film.
Jul 16 - 02:10 PM
Thank you, mates. I've posted something DEFENDING Christy Lemire and the honor of true Batman fans, saying that instead of banning Eric Snider, Rotten Tomatoes should be banning the Nolanites with their mysoginistic remarks and threats. Also said that The Amazing Spider-Man, very much like Batman Begins has a HEART, and that makes me care as much for Peter Parker - if not more - as I did for Bruce Wayne back then, but unlike you, I find TDK a good Joker film, but not a good Batman one. I've said that I'm still waiting for a Batman film true to what the Batman mythos and that people bad mouthing you and the critics aren't true Batman fans, but Nolanites that are no better than Twilight fangirls. What happened? Rotten Tomatoes DELETED my post. Here is proof:
I guess they are satisfied with the mysoginistic remarks then. Oh well, at least I've tried. Keep deleting it, hype machine.
Jul 16 - 02:58 PM
Zauri, "DEFENDING Christy Lemire and the honor of true Batman fans," that was very funny. Actually, your whole comment was funny. You have taken trolling in to the next level. You must be a professional. How much do you get paid to be a professional Marvel troll?
Jul 16 - 03:18 PM
if this was Facebook,I would "Like" this comment.
Jul 16 - 02:13 PM
I'm just a fan of these characters. A huge one. Regardless if I'll love or hate this movie, I still think that comic book movie fans are been spoiled with three brilliant films. I just find it odd how The Avengers and The Amazing Spider-Man fans took most of the heat lightly, while TDKR fanboys - NOT REALLY Batman TRUE fans - start to bad mouth critics going from mysoginistic remarks to death threats. I love Batman Begins, but I think that Nolan lost it since TDK, but regardless of what me or Christy think, this will be surely a success. But just like any other film, it will have its critics. I know how to deal with criticism, I'm just pleading to all Batman fans - those who love Nolan's take or not - to respect the critics. I'm sure that true Batman fans are not the ones bad mouthing critics like this, I believe we are far more better than that.
Jul 16 - 04:16 PM
well said brother
Jul 16 - 02:16 PM
The dark knight is a movie respected by even the rival marvel universe. I remember one spokesperson from marvel saying that we,comic book lovers are in great debt to nolan who reinventened a way a super-hero can be defined,the way he transforms the plain emotions of fear, chaos and pain onto such a grand canvass ,an obsesseion of a man tormented by his own internal demons and you compare that to fucking twilight.It only takes an idiot who can't recognize true genius of nolan who in next 30 years will be revered as one of the all-time greatest filmmakers
Jul 16 - 02:19 PM
If this was facebook, I would like this comment.
Jul 16 - 02:20 PM
Nolans batman will never be as iconic as Tim Burtons batman. But then again that all depends on what you saw first and how old you are. You might be, judging from your profile pic of southpark, 16 years of age. Burton had none of the advantages Nolan has and still made two great Batman films that are a big influence to Nolans batman films.
Jul 16 - 02:24 PM
THAT was well said.
Jul 16 - 02:29 PM
Guido - Nolan's films are arguably already more iconic. And Who are you to judge someone's maturity when you spend most of your day trolling a movie website?
Jul 16 - 02:42 PM
Ian C - My comment was for G. Sharath, so shut the fuck up. It takes a troll to know a troll, so go back underneath your bridge, jackass
Jul 16 - 02:51 PM
Guido V- So what Tim Burton didn't have Nolan's advantages. Bale is a better Batman than Keaton. Keaton was good, bordering great in the first movie and good in the second. Bale has had more to do (better writing in these movies)and more emotional depth to show because he is a great actor. (Bale-1 oscar, Keaton-0 oscars). Any movie is predictable that is meant to be a mass entertainment. Everyone going into the Avengers knows none of them are going to die, but that doesn't stop us from enjoying it. Why are Burton's films a big influence on Nolan's films? Because of the similar universe? Well, duh, it's all Batman. 1989 is not that long ago, Guido. Many films many years before that were able to go to far away locations or spend a ton of money to enhance the quality of the films. But no. Burton stayed in Gotham, never left Gotham, would never leave Gotham, and although Gotham looked awesome, it made the films suffer a bit. Right away in Batman Begins Nolan takes us to a far away Eastern country, incorporates everything from Martial Arts, Religious beliefs, right and wrong and a hundred other topics into a splendid 2.5 hour entertainment. Burton's was just a comic book on screen. It's the difference between art and theater. Nolan=Art. Burton=Theater.
Jul 16 - 03:04 PM
Chase B - first off, thanks for the counterpoints you elegantly put without resorting to dimissive name calling. Now, to back up what i said earlier. What im attacking is Nolans execution of the batman franchise, THE EXECUTION OF IT!!! ITs not batman and its the suit of batman, the city, the environment that doesnt do it for me at all. Its boring and cliche, and worst of all, predictable execution!!!. Let me put it this way, Are you familiar with the compay Hot TOys? Its a company that make 12"inch photo realistic action figures or i think they are super detailed figures of all the big movie franchises. And the 1989 Batman and batmobile are there for sale so as Nolans Batman and tumbler, $600 dollars each. My point is, My friends abandoned Tim Burtons batman for Nolans, and are die hard Nolan batman fans. But when i told them that if they had a choice to pick only one version of the figures they all smiled and said they woudl pick Tim Burton version because its more iconic. And they started to see my points that i made about each movie. I think Batman Begins is a decent batman movie, The dark knight not soo much. Begins shouldnt be revisted when the series gets rebooted. But the dark knight was a cliche, predictable, and sometimes awkward and boring, impratical too. Jack Nicholson joker is more joker than Heath ledger's. NOlan is arogantand selfish to end everything in just three movies, batman is more than that. Nolan doesnt understand Batman, if he did he would have had joker play second fiddle to bane, nobody tops the joker. The joker is his arch-nemesis, not bane. But i have a feeling this third movie will be better than the second one. But not better than anything Tim burton has done. Better cinematography, better scorem, better iconic stuff
Jul 16 - 03:50 PM
Guido V- But see, 3 movies is a kinda unfair way to look at it, because it's not just 3 movies, it's over ten years in the universe of the films. A few years between BB and TDK and 8 years between TDK and TDKR. That's a long time for a man without powers(spider-man, superman) to do anything let alone save the biggest city on Earth over and over again. I don't think it's particularly fair to say Joker is playing second fiddle to Bane, as the Joker is already called among the top 5 or so screen villains in history, and if they were to recast him it would just be dumb even if some other actor did an amazing job. The one thing I would fight you to the death (message board-style) about is who is the better Joker. It's obviously Ledger. Nicholson was great, but he was a clown. Yes, the Joker appears to be a clown. But how menacing is a man who prances around and cackles, wearing bright purple full-body suits and has flowers that spray acid or just water or w/e? If the Joker were a real villain, someone we would buy as a real human being in this world (as we buy a man dressing like a bat fighting crime) it has to be like Ledger's joker. Not a clown who worked for the mob, but an insane person who grew up in an abusive home, who let the dark underbelly of Gotham crawl under his skin and inhabit him, who smears paint on his face and wears something that looks like he found it under a dumpster and put razor blades in his mouth to make him look like he's smiling. That is evil. Nicholson, on the other hand, probably read 3 or 4 comics and said "Okay wardrobe, make me look like a clown!"
Jul 16 - 06:50 PM
What an idiot
Jul 16 - 02:27 PM
i disagree with almost everything you said. Minus parts of the first paragraph.
Jul 16 - 02:28 PM
So trolling comicbookmovie.com articles with your fellow Marvelites is not enough for you? You have to come in to RT and pretend like you are some sort of fan? Wow. How low can you go? This movie is going to destroy your precious Marvel movies which are "silly and childish" as appropriately stated by the Hollywood Reporter.
Marvel has had a lot more successful movies than DC.
What's DC got? Batman.
What does Marvel have? Iron Man, Thor, The Incredible Hulk, Captain America, and The Avengers. If you count non Marvel Studios then they also have, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, The Amazing Spider-Man, X-Men, X-2, and X-Men: FC. All DC has had are Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, and The Dark Knight Rises within the last decade or so.
Marvel movies aren't childish, you're making yourself sound like a douchbag elitist.
Jul 16 - 02:44 PM
DC movies only affect WB. DC gets nothing from the profits.
You are right in that Marvel does have a lot more movies and WB/DC only has Batman. I would rather watch a Batman movie than any Marvel movie. IMO, Chris Nolan's Batman Begins and The Dark Knight are a million times better than any Marvel movie. The other thing is I did not call Marvel movies silly and childish, Todd McCarthy of the Hollywood Reporter did and I was agreeing with him.
Jul 16 - 03:13 PM
Oh, well said SS D, u blinded DC-Fanboy-Nerd. Now, turn ur lights off in your basement and jizz over some Batman comics. Good Night!
btw... love Batman and the Marvel Films. All love ALL Comicmovies.
Jul 16 - 06:47 PM
Is this actually a criticism, or "something else entirely?"
If we're going to constantly compare this to the iconic joker performance then I guess TDKR will always loose some points in critics eyes who by now are expecting that same momentum. It cant be done get over it! It's not a comparison but a complementary piece to the batman begins essentially part 2 - adding value to that nooanistic batmanverse if you see in that light then this review looses its main points.
Jul 16 - 02:31 PM
its come to point where these so called critics are going to be questioned hard. what a joke some of these critics are.
Jul 16 - 03:27 PM
Zauri, you appear highly arrogant.
Jul 16 - 04:18 PM
Zauri, I've seen you trolling other websites with the same garbage. People here are just hoping for a good movie and aren't too concerned that Batman isn't fighting Zombies or other supernatural beings that you so called 'Batman purest' crave so much.
I'm not going to bash Cristy for her opinion but it seems a bit odd to me to base a film's worth almost solely on the success of the previous installment. Just because she doesn't like this as much as The Dark Knight she gives it a bad review, but she doesn't even have the guts to give it a star rating, probably because she thinks its a 3/5 film (her review read like it) but she doesn't want it to get a positive on the RT meter in case she loses some hits.
Jul 16 - 04:25 PM
Why did she put a noose around her neck???
Jul 16 - 06:29 PM
go make me my dinner or do the dishes, leave the film reviews to MEN
Jul 16 - 01:49 PM
who cares what a woman thinks
Jul 16 - 01:50 PM
Yeah, you're about to get killed :-(
Jul 16 - 01:51 PM
Holy shit 5 pages of pure hate already!
WEll everybody have their opinion and I am gonna have mine this friday.
Jul 16 - 02:25 PM
Really? It's not brilliant is your complaint?!
Jul 16 - 01:54 PM
Read the whole review...and basically.
Jul 16 - 01:57 PM
It's not a bad review, I'm excited. I'm sure I'll enjoy the movie. Truth be told I always enjoyed the campier movies more, but Chirstopher Nolan is a great film maker.
Read before you reply.
Jul 16 - 02:52 PM
I'm just surprised that that's the tag. As opposed to over plotted and long.
Jul 16 - 05:50 PM
you are like all the fair-weather batman fans out there who only liked the dark knight because of heath ledger. so Snow White, Rock of Ages, and Spiderman are all better movies...please
The saddest thing about this is that lots of people will never give Tom Hardy a chance at being the best villain in the franchise. I loved Ledger as Joker, but unfortunately I think he gets the 'legacy status' in part because he died under such strange circumstances. I hope Bane is incredible.
Matter of opinion, but eh. As a critic it seems kind of unprofessional I guess.
Jul 16 - 01:59 PM
A Wise Man
She also gave Magic Mike a perfect score...lol
Jul 16 - 03:05 PM
Jul 16 - 01:55 PM
lol she gave magic mike 4 stars. she only gives high score to movies she likes but doesn't consider directing, screenplay, cinematography and acting.
Jul 16 - 01:56 PM
ignore her review she's bias and ignorant go read time's, empire, variety, rolling stone, ign, hollywood reporter reviews they are more intelligent and constructive reviews
Jul 16 - 01:58 PM
and she's probably an attention seeker like all woman
Funny you only name the reviews that have given the film the highest scores. You're biased and ignorant. You're making that VERY apparent.
Jul 16 - 02:46 PM
Actually no he isn't. She fails in everyone of those counts he brings up, I don't see how he is being Biased unless you see it as such. Which in itself is very flawed thinking.
Jul 16 - 03:41 PM
aren't you the guy who posted on every negative review for amazing spider-man?
Jul 16 - 04:09 PM
If you have ever seen Ms Lemire on WhatTheFlick?!, a YouTube channel produced by The Young Turks (TYT). She never goes into detail about directing, editing or any of the other technical merits. Yet, she gives movies like BATTLESHIP applause while crapping on JOHN CARTER simply because "she didn't get it." Matt Atchity is on that show too; they all come off like clowns.
Doesn't consider direcing, screenplay, acting and cinematography? Magic Mike was directed by Stephen Soderbergh (you should know who that is), and was far from lacking in any of the other categories you mentioned. Don't talk about things you don't know about.
Jul 16 - 03:17 PM
Tyler H., You can't bring logic into an argument with these people. Magic Mike is a terrible movie because the homophobic masses said so. Just like when they all complained about Heath Ledger playing Joker, followed by 15 million Brokeback Batman jokes.
Jul 16 - 03:43 PM
not a bad review
She gave Magic Mike 4 stars...wtf?!?
ya she likes all the male nudity thats why she gave it a high score. proves she's a bias critic
Jul 16 - 02:03 PM
There was no male nudity in Magic Mike
Jul 16 - 02:04 PM
Maybe you guys should watch the movies you criticize the critics over before making your judgments. You haven't seen either movie so your opinion is moot...
You don't think she's a "bias critic". You think she's a "biased critic". "Bias" is a bloody noun, for Pete's sake. Learn some English before talking tripe. As it happens, I see no sign of bias in her reviews.
Jul 16 - 02:17 PM
she gave the dictator a half of a star
Jul 16 - 02:21 PM
i 100% agree
Jul 16 - 03:10 PM
You haven't seen "Magic Mike". That's painfully clear.
Jul 16 - 04:37 PM
Magic Mike deserves 4 stars, great film
Jul 16 - 02:18 PM
Christy I know its you.
Jul 16 - 02:56 PM
Jul 16 - 03:11 PM
I hope she is very wrong.
Anyone who gives Battleship a higher score and Magic Mike a PERFECT score. I undoubtedly wrong.
Jul 16 - 03:06 PM
Another negative review. Duck!
Oh no, you are going to be famous...
You're pretty hot..but fuck your review.
haha niiice, well played
1: I wish you good luck.
2: So if a movie's not brilliant that means it can't be good?
I'm not afraid...I'm ANGRY
You will be skinned alive and I'll be sharpening the knives
Here we go again!
Hey Christy Lemire, will read again.
She rates "Think Like a Man" and "Men in Black III" as fresh and then trashes this? How she achieved top critic status is a mystery.
Jul 16 - 02:00 PM
She gave "Men in Black III" a rotten review.
So I guess credibility in your eyes means sharing your exact taste in movies, right? Here's a challenge for you, and for all of the idiots who will inevitably use the same "this reviewer loved movies that I hated" crap as an excuse: Go review the histories of the critics who gave this a positive review. When you find even one movie where you disagree, go ahead and post this same nonsense in the comments. Have fun.
I'm reasonably sure that The Dark Knight Rises could be almost three hours of Christian Bale struggling to get from his wheelchair onto the toilet and taking a hard poo and it would still be more compelling than Battleship, though.
Jul 16 - 03:36 PM
She gave Battleship a fresh review. who does that?
Jul 16 - 02:30 PM
33% of critics. Not every critic agrees with the Rotten Tomatoes tomatometer every time. The people who point out Rotten movies that a critic liked are going nowhere with their excuse. It's just trying to make them feel better.
Jul 16 - 03:25 PM
"Fire the guns!"
"All of them!"
In the game, that would be considered cheating.
Jul 16 - 03:40 PM
I bet if you l
Jul 16 - 03:42 PM
I bet if you looked through the history of critics that liked the movie there will be some positive reviews for bad movies and vice versa. Go away you horrible vermin.
Francisco Vidal Correa Dos Santos
so...... you watched this movie?
Jul 16 - 05:30 PM