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I seriously don't understand where this praise really comes from. Is it because people liked the old one and now they just carry the confirmation bias to the new one? This movie was just bad. I don't think there's ever been a movie where I could not contain my displeasure audibly.
It was cheesy, it had horrible acting (there were some moments where it was fantastic, however) and the characters were MIND NUMBINGLY stupid. I wasn't shocked or frightened for even a second in this one.
Apr 20 - 07:01 PM
everything you jsut listed is why it is loved
Apr 20 - 07:58 PM
Think of this.... you got to remake a movie like the evil dead, in this day and age, how would you? don`t look too deep in these kind of movies, it is a damn cabin in the middle of nowhere kind of movie. i loved it, gory fun, if you don`t like it? ILL EAT YOUR SOOUULL
Apr 11 - 06:19 PM
Hm, interesting takes on this. I saw the original right before going to see the new ED. There were VAST improvements made.
1) The characters, though still a little dumb, were Einsteins compared to the characters in the original.
2) This one was a lot scarier in terms of tension.
3) The plot was much better in this one.
4) The acting, though still mediocre, was also much better
Apr 11 - 12:04 PM
One more part: the reason why the original one drew you in is because, outside of the fact that they're possessed, the demons teamed up to be collective evil presence. And better yet, they just weren't monsters; the dead are actually are real taunting assh0les. The new movie barely shows that, nor does it really do a decent job of waging it against our protagonist. This is why we love Ash because he becomes the classic underdog, the everyman character having to add insult-to injury that not only are his friends/family dead, but now he's being actively being messed with. When he finds the chainsaw, we're right on board with him. We WANT these things to die.
There's little of this is the new film. In fact, we can't really find someone to feel compelled for because the hero is a possessed for 3/4s of the movie. This really makes for a character that we can't connect with and when she ultimately vanquishes the demon, the effect is eh. We're not connected with her as a hero.
While I get the idea that she is fighting her own demons, we never really internalize it like we do Ash against what is, quite early on, an army of darkness.
Apr 11 - 07:24 AM
Interesting points, but I am afraid I have to disagree. I felt for Mia when she was possessed, simply because of the line possessed her has about her being raped in Hell.
Apr 11 - 02:10 PM
The line about being raped in hell was delivered with absolutely no seriousness or dramatic effect. In fact, it seemed like more a rip from The Exorcist than the almost snide chiding from the original.
Apr 16 - 03:40 PM
wait, you didn't like that it wasn't delivered seriously? Huh, I think we aren't seeing eye to eye on this.
Apr 16 - 03:57 PM
LOL but somehow, with a cheesy line like that, you "felt for Mia".
Clearly we will never see eye-to-eye. It was just poorly done, and I can assure you feeling strongly about Mia at that point is more to give an added weight to a film that just didn't supply it.
Apr 23 - 07:40 AM
This never leaves this forum, David.
Apr 23 - 09:17 AM
and the point still stands that the Evil Dead franchise has, and always will, be cheesy. I don't see how that takes away feeling for the character.
Apr 23 - 09:19 AM
Big Fat Jewish Guy
You saw that too, didn't you? It seems Jim is an Evil Dead fan...
everyone is an Evil dead fan on the inside.
Apr 23 - 09:20 AM
the construct of the first film was setup in a way that you could root for Ash, you could relate to him. You were drawn to the character. There was none of that for Mia so I'm having a hard time understanding, with what you were given, how you could "feel" for Mia, especially off of a poorly delivered line like the one you stated.
Your'e the one that brought emotion into it. There was no attachment to the character.
Apr 18 - 03:54 AM
How could anyone relate to Ash after the poor delivering of "Why are you torturing me like this?" It might have to do with the history of drug abuse and then withdrawl I've had, or it might be that i found her to be a compelling character. I felt for Mia, and when she said the line, my imagination took me to Hell and there she was being raped. That's what got to me. the implied awfulness of it.
Apr 18 - 01:54 PM
Also, it wasn't just Mia, but also David and Eric. The original was mainly focused on Ash, and that worked for it, but this new film (that's right. I don't see it as a remake, but a new Evil Dead movie) we are given three characters to really rally behind. Yes they may have felt a bit flat, but I really felt there was a genuine humanity behind each of the characters, something I felt was missing from a lot of the people in the original. I don't think we are going to see this the same way, and that is fine.
Apr 18 - 02:00 PM
When I saw the original Evil Dead for the first time, I HATED Ash. I felt his character was the dumbest and one of the most poorly acted characters in horror movies. My friends I referred to him as Ash-hole throughout the film. He was a God in Evil Dead 2 and AOD, but useless for much of the original.
I felt horrible for Mia at the start and end of the new movie and see endless potential in her character from this point forward.
Apr 18 - 08:23 PM
Decent but ultimately A failure. Having first picked up my first copy of ED in 1984, I've been a a huge fan of Raimi's pacing, tension, and creativity.
Unfortunately, where the new film fails is in the tension. I honestly wasn't scared once in this movie. It was fun at parts, there was some decent gore. But the shock came from the gore and that's a loss.
That's because the original, if it didn't treat you like Ash, it treated you like a member of the cabin. People transformed without warning, things just appeared and needed to be reacted to from a dead stop, and you'd go from dead silence to full on fright. In fact, some of the scariest moments in the first two films were when the music was down, the action was still, and you didn't know what to anticipate.
In this, too much is given away. Yes, you know what ultimately will happen to these people. But instead of the woman in the bathroom seeing her reflection in the mirror and then pissing herself. Couldn't we just have the guy walk in on her? We already just learned she's going to turn. The was zero tension and there was no fun in that scene.
And why do we keep going to the basement for shots of Mia mugging away as a demon. The best part of the original is that you didn't know what the hell was up with that thing in the basement, to the point where not seeing it or inactivity creepy all by itself.
Maybe with a big budget and a lot to live up to, you forget about the small things that made the original so great. And maybe Raimi had to be more inventive given what he had. But the new movie, while being one of the better horror films of late, still didn't take away the basic components of the original film that made it a classic.
Apr 11 - 04:10 AM
Well since we haven't really gotten too many really good movies this year so far, it probably is my favorite movie this year so far.
Apr 7 - 11:38 AM
the place beyond the pines
Apr 10 - 09:41 PM
Limited release, unfortunately.
Apr 10 - 10:08 PM
yep kinda sucks
Apr 11 - 05:40 PM
accually shit it comes out everywhere tommorrow. finally
Apr 11 - 07:57 PM
Apr 12 - 01:11 PM
If I want mindless gore, I'll go to bestgore.com This movie was a pointless dumbed down, Y-generation snooze fest for the easily amused.
Apr 7 - 11:37 AM
so do you regularly visit bestgore.com? Cause I think I've found the root of your problem with this movie.
Apr 7 - 11:02 PM
Apr 8 - 03:35 AM
No numbnuts, I've visited the site a couple times. I know that it's there and If I had a need to see mind numbing violence without any purpose, it would make more sense to see actual gore rather than a movie with terrible acting, zero character development and basically a poorly executed film on almost every level.
Apr 8 - 09:33 AM
right, sure. Normal people don't even look at bestgore once. and I'm sorry, you clearly don't know how to make films if you thought this was poorly made on a technical level.
Apr 8 - 01:21 PM
Normal people don't look at bestgore.com once? Oh, but It's normal for people to be disgusting faggots?
Apr 10 - 03:12 PM
Yeah. And sure normal people may visit it once, but you said "a few times". Why did you visit more then once?
Apr 10 - 03:15 PM
Right, Glen. And normal people make up fake profiles on RT to spew their ignorant comments for the sole purpose of being a jackass. Go back to 4chan, you weird little fuck.
Apr 10 - 03:36 PM
Glen, I think your interest for violence started when you were beaten as a child. You are just desensitized because of it. But it's ok we all feel sorry for you.
Apr 11 - 06:57 PM
Ash J. Gilmore
Seeing it today with my girlfriend! I hope it's as good as you say it is
Apr 6 - 11:27 PM
it is very good, makes you cringe alot, but in a good way, shocking end,, amazing acting ALSO, sit and wait for the credits to roll, you get a treat in the very end ;)
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