Somewhere along the line, apparently, it was decided that having men fight for their lives is not enough to hang a movie on. It has to be a movie about Big Ideas.
God-forbid we have movies with "Big Ideas". Movies that we can learn from. Movies that teach us and help us expand our consciousness about the world and individuals around us. I don't know about this reviewer but I like to be enlighten rather than entertained. And if done right (like this movie) you can have both. Horrible review.
Jan 27 - 11:39 AM
holy crap, read the whole review before bashing based on a tag line.
He pointed out that a movie where men fight for their lives doesn't need to bring up EVERY OTHER struggle that men face. religion, sex, children, marriage, sickness...
Yet, I disagree to the point that I didn't think the movie dwelled too much on all these things; I thought the movie blended them in pretty darn well.
But still, it's obvious you haven't seen the movie nor read his whole review.
Jan 27 - 10:24 PM
Calm down Mary.
Feb 5 - 12:17 AM
It's not the ideas that are the problem. It's that these ideas are brought in at nearly the hour mark, and it's too late. It's everything else. Fortunately, the film tightens up towards the end, but then it has to address the beginning of the film, and is brought back down. Nice ending. But sorry this movie did suck.
Jan 28 - 02:53 PM
How jaded is the movie going public that a film like The Grey earns a rating of "suck"?
I suppose the American Pie series would be more up your alley.
Aug 4 - 02:58 PM
I disagree with Whitty; but I would hardly call this a bad review, or even a horrible one. Must give credit where credit is due.
Jan 30 - 01:12 PM
Channing, I do go to movies to be entertained, to escape from my reality for a little while and enter a world of fantasy. If I were looking for enlightenment I certainly wouldn't go to a movie theater. The trailers for this movie portray it as a survival movie, man against beast. Not this inner struggle searching for meaning in life and questioning religion. If everyone had died in the plane crash and we watched the wolves frolic in the snow for the next hour it would have been more entertaining.
May 16 - 03:27 PM
you should make a movie where wolves frolic in snow for one hour. i bet you'll make more money than this, yeah?
Aug 6 - 12:47 AM
"Having men fight for their lives" reminds me of when I was 8 years old, watching Rambo.
Fast forward 20 years, and I yearn for movies with "Big Ideas." I know it is hard to summarize a movie in one sentence, but this comment makes me unsure what year Mr. Whitty got stuck in.
Jan 27 - 01:42 PM
Yet if it did not have an underlying theme you would call it shallow. God, I hate when people only want action and no plot, go watch one of the Underworlds or Priest.
Jan 27 - 07:17 PM
priest? I thought that was categorized as crap?
Jan 27 - 10:25 PM
I thought the ending was a great conclusion. Almost everyone in the theater was mad about the ending.
Jan 27 - 11:27 PM
Same here, huge groan throughout the room when it ended. People hate using their imaginations when it comes to cliffhanger endings. I personally liked the ending. Its a hell of a lot better than
A) seeing him get mauled in the face
B) surviving the ordeal only to realize he had nothing else to live for. He was already suicidal over losing his wife anyways.
Though, I'm pretty sure they were just upset that they didn't get to see Liam fist fight with a wolf....idiots.
Jan 29 - 11:29 AM
Back in the 60's they used to have these types of movies.
Anyone here think a re-released 60's movie would be popular now?
Feb 1 - 04:52 PM
I'm glad someone agrees. Did you like the poem in the movie?
Feb 16 - 08:19 PM
Ricardo, I don't have to go to the movies and pay 40 bucks to use my imagination. If the director is to big a coward to end the movie then maybe he shouldn't have begun the movie. This movie is a pure waste of time.
May 16 - 03:09 PM
You pay 40 bucks for your movies? How much fucking popcorn and soda are you buying?
Nov 7 - 05:56 PM
"painted the species in a bad light" what are you stupid? Wolves kill you. Thats a god damned fact, they're not your friends. They're predators.
My friend killed a 250 pound wolf that was longer than him when he stood it up. My friend is Around 6 feet tall. How about knowing something about wolves before you think they're friendly animals. Or maybe you should go into the woods and try to befriend them and see how that goes so we can get some stupidity off this planet.
And for the record the wolves they had "killed" we're already shot by a hunter, they just bought the carcasses.
Jan 28 - 12:51 AM
I certainly agree that people shouldn't be complaining about wolves in this movie...but I believe they are doing so because they anticipate people like you, who reduce the animals to "they kill you." They do what they do to survive, just as we humans do, which is what the film is about. They are no more "killers" than we are. But again, I agree that neither the content of the film, nor the buying of the wolf carcasses, disrespects nature in any way.
Jan 28 - 04:07 PM
Tristan S, Not that I'm calling you a liar, but seeing as how the largest wolf on record has been 230lbs, I find it hard to believe you know anything about which you speak of. Before you spew things like this: "How about knowing something about wolves before you think they're friendly animals," you should at least do some research on wolves yourself...
Jan 29 - 07:42 PM
yes cause every wolf that is killed is put on record. Do you hunt wolves?
Feb 3 - 02:56 PM
ha burned jackass. no not every wolf that is killed is on record but if someone kills a wolf almost twice tha size of a normal wolf most likely they would report and brag about it
Jun 7 - 10:09 PM
Nice lie, bro.
Feb 2 - 09:16 PM
"But the story both begs the suspension of our disbelief (it?s never quite clear why they decide to leave the wreck of the plane, which at least provides shelter and supplies)"
When the wolves first make their appearance Liam states that wolves are very territorial and that they're probably harassing the men because they're near their den. He then proceeds to very clearly suggest that they must attempt to move to the treeline to get out of their territory. Not only that, but he also blatantly says that they will soon run out of supplies and starve or freeze to death if they stay at the crash site.
I don't know how you can spew that crap out when it could not have been any more clear in the movie. Good job.
Jan 28 - 06:43 PM
Also, you make it sound like the movie revolved around the idea of " why is God doing this to us " a whole lot. To me, it didn't feel like this at all. Religion was brought up no more than 4 times in total, lasted for short durations, and blended in well with the rest of the film. There are some powerful moments involving religion, but there are powerful moments involving a variety of different subjects, so why even bring religion up?
Honestly, this is a very insubstantial review and I feel sorry for anyone that decides not to see The Grey because of what you've written.
Jan 28 - 06:55 PM
Yeah I'm wondering if this guy even saw the movie or fell asleep for the 10-minute argument they had on why they should leave.
Pretty funny that they ended up heading right towards their den though :p
Jan 29 - 11:33 AM
Jan 29 - 02:20 PM
This review is a joke. I didn't love the movie, but I did think it was entertaining and above average. A ton of inaccuracies about his review. Neeson's character repeatedly communicates why they leave the crash site, several times at that idiot. The movie doesn't portray the wolves as mindless killers, but again Neeson explains why the wolves are behaving why they are, which is fairly accurate of adult gray wolves in a situation like this movie portrays. You clearly don't like the director, but atleast pay attention to the movie before you bash it...isn't that in your job description retard?!
Jan 28 - 08:03 PM
I honestly think that the movie blended in these "Big Ideas" perfectly, because lets face it, it wouldn't have been such a gripping and suspenseful film if it was all about guys getting shredded to bits by wolves. These "Big Ideas" were meant to add to character development so its not just a shit movie. A film that gets you emotionally attached it a good film. A film that gets you emotionally attached and is in the sense of realism is a great film. I feel like you were expecting a huge hollywood explosion packed bust of a movie, that didn't address realism or the situation at hand.
Jan 30 - 05:02 PM
These were not wolves, they were werewolves, or some evolution we have never seen. The wolves were getting revenge because some cut their trees, or Liam was a wolf killer. We don't know.
First hour was great, then it just got stupid.
First Blood was able to combine action with philosophy, but this movie used random action with random philosophy that didn't really mix well.
Feb 1 - 05:00 PM
This review was right on! In this movie, the credits start rolling and you wonder, why just happened and why did I just pay to see this?
All of the talk on rottentomatoes.com about this being a movie that causes one to think about life and death is quite shallow in my opinion. If you want to grow spiritually, do something else besides watch this movie.
It is very hard to get past the far-fetched decisions of survival and unrealistic wolf scenes. Lets leave the plane fuselage out in the open and lets go into the woods where searchers flying above can't see us through the trees, and where we can have a better chance against the wolves. Better yet, lets scale down a cliff, only to have the wolves follow us and find us down there also. Then when we jump into a river, the wolves magically disappear, but then reappear later. It all adds to the Hollywood-added excitement, but scene after scene doesn't pass the common-sense test and that is the hardest thing to get past in this movie.
So the "deep thinkers" who have seen, reviewed, and love this movie, keep on thinking your wonderfully deep thoughts on life, death, mortality, and spirituality. For the folks with common sense who are looking for a good movie, watch the best part of this movie, which is the trailer, and please don't even waste your money at Redbox. Certainly, don't waste your hard earned money on this movie at the theater.
Feb 4 - 08:15 AM
This is a film about religion, death and the director's view of the narrow limit of purpose of a man and an animal. The viewpoint is equally narrow and pointless as the ending we are served. I came to see a film about survival and what I saw was an incomplete and uninspiring film about death.
Feb 6 - 05:59 PM
Well I'm sorry that thinking and pondering the great questions of life and the universe is such a strenuous task for you.
Feb 6 - 07:57 PM
Ok, when Whitty says that the group of survivors are "mostly wolf chow, marked only by a few details," I think he misses it. If the cast was extremely ethnically varied, I think he would've made fun of it. If there was a woman in it he would probably say it was an arctic "Lost." The details we do learn about them, including their religious views and past, are complained about.
Does anyone agree with me here? Or am I being unreasonable?
Feb 13 - 07:41 PM
I had a blast at this movie with out any big ideas. I find it funny how some believe wolfs will not eat you in the wild, WRONG read up on the facts.
Feb 15 - 07:00 PM
Read the full review. You only have one good point involving the wreckage. Honestly, you sound a little uptight. Great movie, great concept, and great execution. But hey, great to be like the 80th review to work in Twilight. Real creative bro.
Feb 17 - 10:09 PM
I completely agree with this review. The movie had some great potential. The suspense built up around the wolf attacks was great.
But the movie was too concentrated on being a visual poem about death. It pushed these ideas so heavily and so often it almost became laughable if it hadn't ruined the movie so much. The movie seemed to be saying "Look how deep and intelligent I am." most of the time. All the while coming off as simply pompous.
If you want to see a great action and suspense film, keep looking.
If you want to see a visual poem about life, death, and atheism, then you've found a perfect match.
Jun 15 - 11:57 AM