I don't remember this standard being applied to any Disney film.
Critics simply can't get over the fact that The Hobbit isn't the same dark, serious tone as Lord of the Rings... so they think it must be a worse film.
Yeah, who cares what a bunch of dirty old men critics have to say. The Hobbit is meant to be less serious, because the book is. It's the buildup to the massive story of LOTR.
As I and many others have ponied out, the problem is not the lightheartedness, it's the uneven tone. Some parts are silly, which is fine, but then they add in nonsense about Sauron and suddenly everything gets DEADLY SERIOUS.
I would like to add that the light-heartedness of this movie does NOT match the light-heartedness of the book. In the book, the humour came from the reactions of the company, and especially Bilbo, towards the very real dangers they face and from the witty, clever remarks of the narrator. In this movie, some of the 'dangers' they face have been made into visual jokes themselves (e.g. the Goblin King) and others have been made deadly-serious and rather generic (e.g. Azog). The rest of the humour consists out of slapstick, toilet-humour and one-liners.
It's rather sad, really. This could have been a very clever film, but PJ botched it up and made it very dumb, very slow-moving, very unrealistic (I am aware that this is an odd term to use for a fantasy-movie, but it's still very much the truth) and very uneven.
I agree with Buell. Stop comparing the Hobbit and LotRs, different books, different movies.I haven't watched many movies lately so I couldn't really see all those CGI as that bad, but they may have been bad. I agree certain things can be better but all over i think it's a very good adaptation.
Jackson, by making it a trilogy, is trying to recreate LOTR. Not to mention there are many scenes that are VERY similar to the trilogy. The Ring falling on Bilbo's finger (exactly the same as when it happened to Frodo) and Gandalf getting mad and making the room dark are a couple examples. Not to mention there are many characters from LOTR that are thrown in when they aren't in the book, the most unnecessary being old Bilbo and Frodo. So I think it's fine to compare this to LOTR.
in the Hobbit the ring actually does fall on Bilbo's finger, so they did it in the movie, Gandalf making the room dark is the way he get's everyone's attention and shuts them up. Old Bilbo and Frodo are put in to loosely connect Bilbo's There and Back Again with the LOTR. all these, "recreations" you speak of have logical explanations that actually enhance the story. so i don't believe this should be compared to LOTR
' "What have I, I wonder?" he said to himself, as he panted and stumbled along. He put his left hand in his pocket. The ring felt very cold as it quietly slipped on to his groping forefinger.'
As you can see, The Ring does NOT fall onto his finger, it subtly slips onto it. PJ really did attempt to recreate Frodo's accident in Bree. Therefore, I feel that the comparisons that are being made are completely legit.
I don't think you realize that the Hobbit was originally a bedtime story Tolkien told to his children that he later wrote down in full and published, that's why it's childish, you obviously woudn't like the book, it is much more childish.
so if this is your logic that because hobiit is light hearted does not make it bad it must mean the phanttom menace is also awesome and should not hve got so much hate. by the way i like all 6 star wars movies the empire is my favourite followed by revenge of the sith from the prequels.
Episode 1 wasn't bad because it was lighthearted. It was bad because the script sucked, the characters were paper-thin, and most of the acting was terrible.
Why is the Hobbit now being compared to Star Wars? They're completely different genres! It's got even less of a connection than LOTR does to the Hobbit
Christopher Kunkel
Yeah, who cares what a bunch of dirty old men critics have to say. The Hobbit is meant to be less serious, because the book is. It's the buildup to the massive story of LOTR.
Jan 25 - 11:07 AM
D P
As I and many others have ponied out, the problem is not the lightheartedness, it's the uneven tone. Some parts are silly, which is fine, but then they add in nonsense about Sauron and suddenly everything gets DEADLY SERIOUS.
Jan 26 - 07:06 AM
Tim de Wit
I would like to add that the light-heartedness of this movie does NOT match the light-heartedness of the book. In the book, the humour came from the reactions of the company, and especially Bilbo, towards the very real dangers they face and from the witty, clever remarks of the narrator. In this movie, some of the 'dangers' they face have been made into visual jokes themselves (e.g. the Goblin King) and others have been made deadly-serious and rather generic (e.g. Azog). The rest of the humour consists out of slapstick, toilet-humour and one-liners.
It's rather sad, really. This could have been a very clever film, but PJ botched it up and made it very dumb, very slow-moving, very unrealistic (I am aware that this is an odd term to use for a fantasy-movie, but it's still very much the truth) and very uneven.
Many will disagree, I am sure.
Jan 26 - 04:51 PM