I gotta agree, unfortunately... This is how I felt when I saw it:
"Just got back from the 3D HFR screening of the Hobbit. I am disappointed to be frank. I really wanted to give Peter Jackson the benefit of doubt with the new 3D HFR technology but I can't... The tech just didn't help the story at all. I could never escape the feeling that I'm watching an over-produced soap opera on a HDTV; or I'm playing a computer game on a super high-resolution monitor. Yeah, everything was crisp and sharp, the action scenes were superb in 48fps, definitely without headache inducing motion sickness so common in 24fps 3D movies... I just don't know, I really wanted to like it, but the 'hyper-realism' of the movie destroyed the 'fantasy' of the Middle Earth. I will go see it again, this time in plain 2D and see if I'll change my opinion... And yes, it was a little too long in story and sloppy in editing, it could easily be compressed into 2 hours."
I wouldn't say it could "easily" be compressed into 2 hours. Some of the minor adventures were really fun. The only really overlong, unnecessary part was the boring council meeting in Rivendale. I'm not sure what that scene accomplished in 12 minutes that it couldn't have accomplished in 2.
For me, that was also a problem. I didn't enjoy the addition of Saruman and Galadriel into the Hobbit. I know they are important figures in Middle Earth, but I felt that their presence was unneeded.
I also saw it in HFR 3D. When the screen has just changed its format I was confused as well. I saw the Warner Bros. logo going at a much faster speed then normal. I didn't get sick its just it felt strange. I saw Bilbo Baggings moving as if he was running (he was supposed to be walking). I thought it was neat and cool and very clear but it went way too fast and the computer generated and special effects made everything look so cheap that you could see that its fake. The Hobbit its self is great but the 48fps was not as great as I was expecting. Maybe I'll wait and see what James Cameron does with his Avatar sequels being filmed in HFR.
I wish they could have done some kind of mixed-shot HFR cut. I thought it looked great - or at least didn't look distracting - whenever the camera was pulled back a decent distance from the action but as soon as anything started happening close-up it felt really jarring, and going back and forth between the two starting making my brain hurt a bit.
The few comments on the plot were for the most part how I felt. I saw it in 24 fps. Gotta say though even I'm getting tired of people talking about the 48fps.
I know! We're supposed to be talking about movies, not how an optional viewing mode is ruining the industry. The movie was amazing in 24fps, slow in the beginning, but it got better!
I'm not sure if I can ever get used to 48 FPS. I also found myself being taken in and out of the viewing experience. It was very jarring. Visuals aside I was pleasantly surprised by the movie, gonna see it again in 24 FPS.
I totally agree about all the opinions on 48fps. It just took me right out of the movie. Thankfully I saw it a couple days later in good old 24fps, and I was able to appreciate the film itself.
The film is wonderful; if there is a step down in quality in the previous films, it is a small one. The main thing is that the tone is different, but it's the sort of tone I wished the original TLOTR trilogy had more of: a more lighthearted, spirited adventure with bits of darkness, and not the other way around.
The Riddle scene is probably my favorite scene in all four Tolkien movies. Had Jackson cut the awkward scene toward the beginning with Frodo and Old Bilbo, and shaved off a bit of the overlong council meeting with Gandalf and the old folks, I'd call it the best of the bunch. But having just watched all films in the past couple weeks, An Unexpected Journey truly isn't any more digressive or inconsistently paced than ROTK or The Two Towers.
Except for those weird moments in which motion seemed to be fast forwarded (most of the ones I spotted were on close-ups), I have to say I like it too. And I was positively shocked with the depth of the 3D. The rock giants scene was breath-taking to me.
Im one of the few and I enjoyed it. Enjoyed the story and format and intend on seeing the next two in 48fps. If im honest I enjoyed The Hobbit more so than TDKR and on par with The Avengers.
I personally thought they could have done the movie well without the intro with Bilbo and Frodo, it was not necessary. The Hobbit was all about Bilbo hence the reason. Another thing I hope that Smaug looks a bit more like the dragon from "Dragonheart" although the movie showed very little of how he will most likely look, all I thought when I saw the glimpses was the image of the dragon from Shrek. . . . . and I agree that the movie should have been a little more shorter and I know I may sound a bit like I'm contradicting myself when I say this that although the movie would have been better if they trimmed off some minutes they should have given more screen time for some of the other dwarves and that Radagast shouldn't have had that much screen time for he was only mentioned very little in the book. overall since the book will be split into 3 movies I can't really say much about this first installment, but enjoyed it very much with my little daughter, she especially loved it when Gollum appeared. hehehe
I think those that did not enjoy the movie are mostly people who saw it in 48fps. Those like myself that have seen it in 24fps really enjoyed it. In fact, I loved it - perhaps even more than The Lord of the Rings films.
FYI, saw it in 24fps 3D, liked it, but not nearly as well as LOTR's. I wish people would stop trying to speak for everyone else and rationalize other people's opinions. There's no need to feel sorry for us, we just disagree. If you loved it that's great, but not everyone is going to. The movie got a 65% from critics and a 6.5 score from audiences. That's pretty consistant, I might have given it a bit higher than that, but the numbers don't lie. It probably was a good to very good movie that wasn't quite as appealing as it's predecessor's, but still has the potential to reach those heights as long as the director doesn't go Lucas on it and not listen to the feedback. That's my take on it.
They're just doing their jobs. What matters is the masses liked it. If the critics see it differently, we have no reason to be angry with them. We are humans, we have differing opinions.
After the first, say, 40 minutes, I was no longer consistently distracted by the 48 fps. And by the middle of the film, involving the escape from the goblins, I actually think it completely elevated the quality and clarity of what was an insanely dense scene.
As for the storytelling, I was eating out of their hands from the opening scene. I was pleasantly surprised by he inclusion of Radagast and the beginnings of their involvement withe Necromancer. I'm in no position to review it objectively, as I walked out of this movie completely satisfied and delighted.
At first I thought if was a matter of the film industry needing time to master the technology. Now I think it's more a matter of us needing time to get used to it.
I saw it in 24 fps and after all the reviews I don't ever plan to see it in 48. It looked great and I am fine with it. I also thoroughly enjoyed the movie, imperfect as it was.
I did sort of have a problem with the narrative, like Ryan said, it just felt like a series of perils without really feeling like one led to the other. But that was a problem I had with the book. But I really enjoyed it.
Now I saw it in 24 FPS once, and I really am curious about the 48. I've heard nothing but bad things about it, but I'm curious and I want to see for myself.
The intro might have been my favorite part of the entire film. I preferred this to the original trilogy, just as I preferred The Hobbit (book) to the LOTR. I did not see this movie in 48fps, but I did see it in IMAX 3D and then again in 2D. I am so happy about how it turned out. I loved the extra weight given to the tale by the expanded upon material and I cannot wait for Desolation of Smaug!
As an avid fan and reader of the LOTR, I approach this first installment as a basis for bigger and better things. It set the stage for the real action and plot points, which I believe will satisfy many more viewers. I watched it in 24fps 3d and thought it looked incredible. 3D has never looked this crisp. I may watch the 48fps out of curiosity but would recommend regular 3d to everyone.
Jane Doe
I gotta agree, unfortunately... This is how I felt when I saw it:
"Just got back from the 3D HFR screening of the Hobbit. I am disappointed to be frank. I really wanted to give Peter Jackson the benefit of doubt with the new 3D HFR technology but I can't... The tech just didn't help the story at all. I could never escape the feeling that I'm watching an over-produced soap opera on a HDTV; or I'm playing a computer game on a super high-resolution monitor. Yeah, everything was crisp and sharp, the action scenes were superb in 48fps, definitely without headache inducing motion sickness so common in 24fps 3D movies... I just don't know, I really wanted to like it, but the 'hyper-realism' of the movie destroyed the 'fantasy' of the Middle Earth. I will go see it again, this time in plain 2D and see if I'll change my opinion... And yes, it was a little too long in story and sloppy in editing, it could easily be compressed into 2 hours."
Dec 17 - 05:40 PM
Jacob Crites
I wouldn't say it could "easily" be compressed into 2 hours. Some of the minor adventures were really fun. The only really overlong, unnecessary part was the boring council meeting in Rivendale. I'm not sure what that scene accomplished in 12 minutes that it couldn't have accomplished in 2.
Dec 17 - 08:02 PM
Jamie Evans
For me, that was also a problem. I didn't enjoy the addition of Saruman and Galadriel into the Hobbit. I know they are important figures in Middle Earth, but I felt that their presence was unneeded.
Dec 20 - 10:44 AM
David Becker
You'll see why they were needed in Desolation of Smaug.
Dec 20 - 08:39 PM
Matthew Reimer
I also saw it in HFR 3D. When the screen has just changed its format I was confused as well. I saw the Warner Bros. logo going at a much faster speed then normal. I didn't get sick its just it felt strange. I saw Bilbo Baggings moving as if he was running (he was supposed to be walking). I thought it was neat and cool and very clear but it went way too fast and the computer generated and special effects made everything look so cheap that you could see that its fake. The Hobbit its self is great but the 48fps was not as great as I was expecting. Maybe I'll wait and see what James Cameron does with his Avatar sequels being filmed in HFR.
Dec 17 - 08:24 PM
Matthew Kelly
I wish they could have done some kind of mixed-shot HFR cut. I thought it looked great - or at least didn't look distracting - whenever the camera was pulled back a decent distance from the action but as soon as anything started happening close-up it felt really jarring, and going back and forth between the two starting making my brain hurt a bit.
Dec 17 - 08:43 PM
scifi mark
Basically when there was a lot of motion on the screen like the fight scenes my brain went into sensory overload.
Dec 20 - 11:03 AM