ROTTEN TOMATOES: Weekly Ketchup: Green Lantern and Ant-Man News, and a Discussion of the Hulk Trailer Comments

Weekly Ketchup: Green Lantern and Ant-Man News, and a Discussion of the Hulk Trailer

by Greg Dean Schmitz | March 14, 2008

Summary

This week's Ketchup bottle holds news about comic book adaptations like Green Lantern, Ant-Man, Bone, and The Incredible Hulk, plus new projects from directors Francis Ford Coppola and Wolfgang Petersen. Back to Article

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crossouttheD writes:
on Mar 14 2008 09:27 PM

I can't wait to NOT see the next Superman movie. The first one was boring drull motivated only by the director's troubled/eccentric sex life. Superman is Superman, not a gay allegory. "Boo" to Green Lantern and Antman, they are the bottom of the toilet when it comes to superheroes. I'd rather see a guy gardner movie or a Ambiguously Gay Duo movie directed by Bryan Singer!

The new Hulk movie looks "meh". Wolverine should be good. The Dark Knight is a "definite see" in my future. Iron Man is a "must see". Heavy Metal 3 bring it! Robocop remake, bring it on....eventhough i know whoever does it is going to royally phuck it up.

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Detrs writes:
on Mar 14 2008 09:31 PM

Yeah, the guy that did the propaganda piece "Eli Stone" is really the person who should be handling the Green Lantern.

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smartmoviekid writes:
on Mar 14 2008 11:00 PM

Eli stone = george micheal Love fest. Green lantern too?

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Dinobot77 writes:
on Mar 14 2008 11:53 PM

Having Eli Stone direct Green Lantern is like having Common staring as Green Lantern. It just doesn't work.

Oh Wait! Common is actually staring as Green Lantern. :(

I guess now we will see Superman do a cameo on Desperate Housewives.

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kiss bang kill writes:
on Mar 15 2008 03:34 AM

In reply to this comment (#1632911)
Wow, Green Lantern bottom of the toilet? Seriously, are you a comic fan at all? Green Lantern has one of the most diverse and interesting story arcs in all of comics. I'm really glad they are going with Hal Jordan as opposed to the newbie GL.

And Hulk actually is starting to look promising...although, Eric Bana could not save Ang Lee's Hulk, I think Norton may actaully be a perfect fit. Lets tighten up that CGI, though it is a good start.

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StonetheCrow writes:
on Mar 15 2008 06:09 AM

Bryan Singer is a ******. I'll give ya that.
And Superman didn't stink, it IS THE STINK !

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daveslayer writes:
on Mar 15 2008 06:16 AM

Tin Tin will be great

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tomwaitsjr writes:
on Mar 15 2008 08:34 AM

Tin Tin VS. All Your Superhero (belong to tin tin)

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DarthWonka writes:
on Mar 15 2008 09:57 AM

In reply to this comment (#1632911)
Homophobic much?

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Driggs writes:
on Mar 15 2008 10:36 AM

Our superhero movies taking over Hollywood or something? You'd think there'd be a little more news about movie genres.

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Willy105 writes:
on Mar 15 2008 02:32 PM

Superman! Bring him back!

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trgdr777 writes:
on Mar 15 2008 02:44 PM

Too many comic book and/or remake movies!

Superman Returns was boring, but not awful (glad i didn't see it in theaters though).

I've never even read a Green Lantern comic, but even I will be sad if that movie is ruined.

Fame... um... yeah...

That'd be cool if Ant-Man turned out to be a clever new take on the superhero movie.

Hooray for Brad Bird.

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optic_85 writes:
on Mar 15 2008 02:54 PM

Am I the only person who REALLY loves Superman Returns?...Because I thought it was amazing. Ranks as my third favorite Superhero flick off all time right behind Batman Begins, and X2.

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optic_85 writes:
on Mar 15 2008 02:57 PM

In reply to this comment (#1632911)
crossouttheD, you have issues.

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u1sart writes:
on Mar 15 2008 06:17 PM

In reply to this comment (#1634849)
WHAT!!! superman sucked... Hell no!!, i thought it was a great comeback after so many years and to at least open with a synopsis as to what the man of steel is. i really think this new one will be good.

- and all u white folks out there.. you need to stop hating on Common for that green latern role. hooray a black guy gonna finally star a super hero movie. What u can do though is wait and see the movie and judge for your self what you think about the acting and the movie it self, more than gagging about common is gonna suck at this and that.. you bunch a bitches

- I dont wanna c peter Jacksons Tin Tin, he was suppose to do Halo, whats up with that, we should boy cut his ***. (he's ma boy though).

what happen to Johnny Quest the movie.

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ManiacSlut writes:
on Mar 15 2008 06:21 PM

In reply to this comment (#1632911)
Superman Returns did suck, but if you remember the first X-Men movie wasn't all that great either with the lame Statue of Liberty plot, and then X2 was really good. So, I am willing to give Singer a chance with the second, hopefully not crappy Superman flick

And by the way, I have heard a lot about the "Superman is gay" thing in regards to Superman Returns, and I didn't see it. Maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, but I am pretty sure that Clark and Jimmy never went down on each other or anything, so... did I miss something, or what?

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thereign writes:
on Mar 15 2008 07:40 PM

SUPERMAN = GAY.

http://www.superdickery.com/seduction/102.html

:-P

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greg_dean_schmitz writes:
on Mar 15 2008 08:25 PM

Hey gang, this week's column as it ended up online is actually just the first half or so ! To continue reading the rest of the column, head over to the forums: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showthread.php?p=12756156

(but you can still post the comments about the rest of the column here : )

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Paints Hz Shirt Red writes:
on Mar 15 2008 09:09 PM

the new supermans gonna rock! now that bryan singer knows what the public expects to see the second one will be a big improvement. the first one was rather ummm...slow, but now that he established the story lines to his liking its time to bring on the terror!!! im just wondering,(besides lex luthor),who the new villian will be.

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ajmk123 writes:
on Mar 15 2008 09:21 PM

u1sart the reason why people are complaining is because the REAL green lantern is not black, common is a ****ty actor playing the fake fagtastic black lantern.

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thereign writes:
on Mar 15 2008 09:54 PM

Ajmk;

How about you STOP using the words "fagtastic" and "black" together, you f.ucking RACIST troll! I--and so many others here--are SO SICK of your ignorant views and the fact you speak just to stir up trouble!

Don't you remember all the people slamming your ignorant self the first time you made such insipid comments(back when you used your ORIGINAL screen name...the pseudonym under which you managed to get KICKED OFF these boards in the first place)?

If you want to keep demonstrating that your I.Q. paradoxically exists in the negative digit range, fine...obviously the RT sysops are either asleep at the wheel, or don't care that you're back. But for the rest of us who believe in attempting intelligent discourse(even when we disagree on who should play which character), CHILL with the homophobic, racist NONSENSE!!

I mean damn, dude. Really.

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duckmanx88 writes:
on Mar 15 2008 10:25 PM

first off, saying someone like the GL(Hal Jordan, John Stewart, kyle rayner, guy gardner) is a secondary hero is possibly thedumbest thing a person could ever say. in any incarnation of the Justice League, a GL is in it. second, to say that john stewart is not the "real GL" is stupid. earth gets two GL's and john stewart was the one who backed up hal jordan. i liked john stewart in the DC Animated Series and was impressed with the way they brough his minor chacter into the forefront. and last, to say that there are few African American superhero's is false. I mean look at the current justice league. Black Lightning, Vixen, and John Stewart. Not to mention Mr. Terrific is the smartest person on earth.

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Brian82 writes:
on Mar 15 2008 11:04 PM

Ant-man? How heroic is that? Don't re-make Robocop. It wasn't that long ago and the orignal was a classic. Oh Hollywood. For all the money you get paid, try and be more original. I guess they'll have to wait until my scripts come along in the next 20 years...

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filmdudejeff writes:
on Mar 16 2008 12:16 AM

Ang lees hulk wasn't that bad. It was better than your average super hero movie -- ie Punisher, Cap America, Fantastic Four 1 and 2, etc.

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Ghoulette writes:
on Mar 16 2008 03:58 AM

The original Hulk wasn't that bad and I respect Ang trying something different (and the studio for not hiring someone like Michael Bay). It's just that Ang's arty style threw off people who were just expecting a non-stop smashfest.

I loved Transporter 2 and Unleashed, so Louis's version of the Hulk should be pretty good too.

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scaryneedles writes:
on Mar 16 2008 11:24 AM

Fingers crossed for a wheelchair-bound green lantern, that would be awesome.

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ajmk123 writes:
on Mar 16 2008 12:33 PM

How is it racist to call John Stewart the black green lantern? Oh wait it is not. So thereign just because you hate white people does not mean all comments are racist. John Stewart could be white and still be fagtastic because he is such a BAD character.

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greg_dean_schmitz writes:
on Mar 16 2008 04:34 PM

In reply to this comment (#1636638)
Most of my exposure to John Stewart, Green Lantern (other than his appearances in the JL animated show) was "Green Lantern: Mosaic." Anyone remember it ? Yes ? No ? In either case, whether or not you know it probably has to do with it... being REALLY AWFUL. John Stewart was a non-presence both in the DC Universe, and as a Justice League member (which he wasn't) until after the cartoon re-jiggered him as being interesting/important.

Now, the thing is... John Stewart's boring-ness has *zero* to do with his race. There are *plenty* of interesting black heroes... The Falcon, Black Lightning, Luke Cage, Black Panther, Cloak (of ...Dagger), Storm, War Machine/Jim Rhodes, Steel, Amazing Man, Mr Terrific, heck, I'll even admit Bishop is kind of interesting. Way at the bottom of such a list, John Stewart is perhaps ironically "milquetoast," he's a vacuum of character. Borrrrring. Even thrown into the bizarre world of "Mosaic", he didn't appeal to readers at all.

The Justice League animated show's creative staff gets credit for making John Stewart appealing, but I still have to question if people liked Stewart, or did they just like Green Lantern, because whoever is the GL at a given time... being a Lantern is inherently cool.

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Driggs writes:
on Mar 16 2008 05:50 PM

In reply to this comment (#1635103)
I'm pretty sure Jackson was only slated as exec producer for Halo.

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H00PY_FR00D writes:
on Mar 16 2008 06:12 PM

The New Hulk movie looks BAD ***. I'm not too worried about the Abomination's look, as long as they get the story, action, and characterization done well. Whomever liked Xmen 2, Batman Begins, and Superman Returns as their top 3 favorite superhero movies needs to rethink their priorities... and go bathe a toaster. Also, Iron Man looks like too much of a Marvel cash cow to be any good (Spiderman 3???) And Dark Knight looks amazing. Can't wait.

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newf writes:
on Mar 16 2008 06:57 PM

totally agree with OPTIC-85....loved SUPERMAN RETURNS.....one of my top 5

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ajmk123 writes:
on Mar 16 2008 07:20 PM

The thing is that the only way to make John Stewart somewhat interesting is by stealing some of his origin from Hal Jordan but instead of him being a pilot he was a marine.

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mrbond81 writes:
on Mar 16 2008 09:29 PM

my take on all this is that, hal jordan definitly is the classic green lantern and although i was not a huge fan of the comic series i still think of him primarily as the main GL. all the others just seem to me like secondary GL's. I'd def watch this movie though, even though i have my doubts about the choice for director. As for the HULK movie, i like the directors other work and Ed Norton is one of my favorite actors, so that along with the fact that the hulk looks GREAT will make this a must see.
As for superman, i know he get's alot of crap as a character but i've been a huge fan since the "doomsday" story arch in the comics. I'm glad that Singer is doing the SUPERMAN sequel. i think that the first looked great but had only an ok story, due to the first half just dealing with boring backstory, but it was left with potential for some interesting story archs. A Supervillain is definitly needed in the second though, but singer did step it up in X2 so he'll probly do the same here. as for the rest...Antman= stupid character, might watch it on dvd if i'm bored. Robocop= I'd like to see a faithful original remake only because the original was filmed with terrible quality IMO. even w/ the HD version is still looks like crap on my big screen. and finally what the hell is so cool about tintin that these directors want to be part of it? never even heard of it?

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Xx MooSE xX writes:
on Mar 16 2008 09:40 PM

In reply to this comment (#1634841)
Yes, u are, everyone else thinks its a gay allegory

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Xx MooSE xX writes:
on Mar 16 2008 09:43 PM

In reply to this comment (#1635103)
who was blade?, pretty sure it was a black guy who played that role

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kdbarrett writes:
on Mar 17 2008 05:39 AM

Ah, good ol' Valiant. They brought back my favorite superhero, Doctor Solar, Man of the Atom! Now THERE'S a movie someone should make! Even though I'm the only one who'd go see it... Seriously, though, Valiant did some good stuf; Magnus, Rai... and yes, Harbinger. I am surprised any Valiant titles have gotten optioned, though, especially Harbinger.

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Vitamin M writes:
on Mar 17 2008 07:12 AM

I want to see X-O and Magnus Robot Fighter from valliant. those would be fun. Harbringers not so much.

I know little about Green lantern but the story arc the writer mentions sounds like a really cool one to fallow. if you could make the film cool enough to warrant a trilogy it would be a lot of fun to see the story of GL go from it's origins with one hero who by the end is the villian leading to the the latest version played by common or whatever. although I guess that's like Darth Vaders story except not told in prequels. I'm just saying it would be ballsy to make an audience fall in love with a hero character only to later have him turn evil causing the need for a new version.

but wasn't GL's crytonite the color yellow? I mean literally the color yellow? that's kind of lame.

Ant man will be awesome. quote me.

Superman was decent, and I think as was said earlier in this forum, the sequel is guranteed to be better. Singer nailed the visuals he just needs to match them with a more dynamic story.

Robocop is a bad idea.

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Shatter24 writes:
on Mar 17 2008 08:50 AM

Based on the animated versions of the Green Lantern, b/c I don't read the GL comics, I prefer John Stewart to Hal Jordon. The problem w/ having Hal in the Justice League instead of John, would be that his personality would seem similar to the Flash's (at least according to the animated stuff). John Stewart was portrayed as very military, upstanding guy, who put teamwork first, had a tendency to give orders which some of the other JLA members didn't like that. That made for good television, in my opinion. Regardless of what John Stewart was like in the comics, his re-birth in the animated series made him a pretty cool character. A movie might want to start with Hal Jordan, but transition to John Stewart by 2 or 3, thereby pleasing everyone.

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Matanuki writes:
on Mar 17 2008 09:36 AM

In reply to this comment (#1635706)
reign, you should know by now the futility in even acknowledging anything he says. Don't feed the troll.

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Matanuki writes:
on Mar 17 2008 09:57 AM

I'm all for Darkseid being the villain for the Superman sequel.

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ron128 writes:
on Mar 17 2008 10:07 AM

oh ok. lest get this nonsense straight first of all. green lantern a sucky hero?? helooo.. wipe my a**. ok i give u the benefit of doubt u mite nt have read the comics, bu t evn then to make such a statement is like totally arggggh. im struggling to find the correct wrds which wnt get me xpelled from this forum. the green lantern is one of thebiggest dc superheroes.

coming to the second point, the only name synionymous with green lantern is HAL JORDAN. if ne deserves to b in a GL movie, its Hal Jordan. and to my coloured pals, no1s flaming john stewart coz hes black! evry1s flaming him coz, well he sucks downright! the character was never developed in comics. and the only developement he has in the animated world, well most of it is somewhat similar to hal jordan's characterisation. john stewart is a succky character who just happens to be black. no1s saying here that he sucks BECOZ hes black.

and hey i havnt seen the shows this guy wateva he made. but if this guy makes a movie half as decent as the rebirth storyline from comics in 2005, i wld go to heaven one happpy guy. one of the possible storylines for the movie is the parallax storyarc. the 1st part cld be the rise of hal jordan, the 2nd part (if the 1st one wrks, i.e) cld be his downfall and the rise of kyle rayner, and the 3rd the rebirth storyline. now dat wld rock!

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minderbinder writes:
on Mar 17 2008 10:26 AM

Interesting about Bird...originally 1906 was said to be a live action flick from pixar, now it's a coproduction between warners, disney and pixar. I wonder why they just didn't go disney live action? Seems an odd choice.

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tomwaitsjr writes:
on Mar 17 2008 10:40 AM

In reply to this comment (#1634841)
Yes, you are really the only person.

And while it makes you unique, it also means you are an anamoly and will not be able to evolve in any Darwinian sense.

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tomwaitsjr writes:
on Mar 17 2008 10:43 AM

Grrr...Rotten tomatoes didn't put it in quotes

I was replying to the guy that said "Am I the only one that loved Superman Returns?" or something like that. . .

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ron128 writes:
on Mar 17 2008 10:55 AM

the only way im watching superman man of steel is if they bring in kickass villains.. how abt the martian space armada? :D one way they cld proceed further for the jla movie (which by the way is way to crap at dhs stage, going by the production news coming in,) is by introducing the martian manhunter. they cld try the new world order story arc from the jla comic book series, minus the jla. darkseid... naaa i wld think superman wld eventually lose against him. i still need convincing that supermans more powerful than darksied. supermans, well superman. hes too goody to take on darkseid while darksied is evil. he wldnt evn flinch while using his omega beam. supes wldnt evn lobotomise doomsday with his heat vision!

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Matanuki writes:
on Mar 17 2008 11:32 AM

In reply to this comment (#1638283)
"Coloured"? What is this 1964? Word of advice. You wanna keep those pals, you might consider not calling them "coloured". It's derogatory, my friend. But anyways, moving along...

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ron128 writes:
on Mar 17 2008 11:59 AM

In reply to this comment (#1638488)
hey thanx. i tht coloured wld b u knw less offensive or wateva.. thanx for ur advice. will kip it in mind :D

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Matanuki writes:
on Mar 17 2008 12:24 PM

In reply to this comment (#1638518)
Cool.

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ajmk123 writes:
on Mar 17 2008 12:49 PM

Shatter you have no idea what you are talking about. Hal Jordan is an Air Force pilot and is known as the GREATEST GREEN LANTERN OF ALL TIME. His character was ripped off in the animated show by taking some of his origin and adding it to John Stewart. John Stewart is a D level character, he is an architect that was given a ring after Guy Gardner broke some rules. None of the movies should even talk about John Stewart. THe first movie should be an intro, the second movie could be his fall from grace and death, and the third movie should be his rebirth. Shatter you are almost as retarded as Matanuki.

P.S. Matanuki, you are the troll, go away and never return.

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Elixor writes:
on Mar 17 2008 01:33 PM

I'm happy to see Wolfgang Peterson doing a Sci-Fi flick. The guy has some talent even though his past couple of movies have been mediocre. I could pretty much guarantee that his movie will be better directed than Idependence Day.

I really liked Superman Returns and I'm looking forward to the next one.

I've always loved Outer Limits and would welcome more Outer Limits movies, or even more TV shows. Robocop could be a good candidate for a reboot also.

I agree that Hal Jordan is the original Green Lantern and hence should be the first Green Lantern portrayed in a movie. I've got nothing against Common playing the Stewart Green Lantern, but to snub the original because Stewart is in the cartoon, or because he's a minority superhero, just isn't right. It comes down to once again not respecting the source material.

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JesseJames001 writes:
on Mar 19 2008 09:07 AM

None of the Justice League movie sounds appealing to me yet. Common and Green Lantern? I've seen a picture, but he just looks like a fool. Adam Brody as the Flash? Not a good selection. Antman...No thanks.

Agreed on giving Singer the reigns for Superman: Man of Steel, I enjoyed X2 more than X1.

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TombstoneLawDog writes:
on Mar 21 2008 09:11 AM

Craziest thing happened;

for a hot second, I found myself actually listening to a point being made by Ajmk about the substance of the argument; WB stealing Hal Jordan's CV and giving it to Stewart. It was actually coherent. Seriously, for the quickest flash he graduated for 'complete pre-pubescent douche-bag' to... something less 'douche-y.' Then he went back to calling people 'retarded' for having differing opinions.

son, you do need to give 'Fagtastic' a rest. You are clearly unequipped to use irony. As long as I'm on topic: 'homophobic,' in its common usage, does NOT literally mean you are 'scared' of gays (as you constantly define it). It means you have a reflexive hatred towards gay people based upon some personal prejudice, ..or some unresolved urges you're not prepared to deal with. None of that concerns anyone here. Using it repeatedly does, however, telegraph an embarrassing lack of maturity and/or sophistication.

Generally, I tend to think Hal Jordan is a more iconic GL. However, if they're only going to bring their 'A' game by using Stewart, then I agree with whoever posted as much-- use Stewart.

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Matanuki writes:
on Mar 21 2008 11:47 AM

In reply to this comment (#1645257)
Hal Jordan, definitely the more iconic GL. But, if they use Hal I'd like to see, over the course of a few movies, his arch from good to bad. And, with that, I'd like to see others, like Stewart, introduced and perhaps taking the mantle as hero. Imagine each film foreshadowing Jordan's tragic turn as Parallax, the fall of the Corps, and then a climactic finale film which showcases an epic battle between Stewart and Jordan. We'd be rooting for both of them, torn between loyalties, and truly engaged (if, of course, the stories are written with flare and passion). Hmm...

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