Weekly Ketchup: Idris Elba cast in Thor, more Spider-Man 4 rumors

Plus, Brian Cox may get cast in The Hobbit

This week's Ketchup includes casting news and rumors for Thor, Spider-Man 4, The Hobbit and Guardians of Ga'hoole, new sequels in the Jackass and Underworld franchises and potential new movies for Brad Pitt and Eddie Murphy.


FRESH DEVELOPMENTS


#1 THOR FINALLY FINDS HIS WARRIORS THREE

Director Kenneth Branagh has lined up four of the remaining roles in Thor, and three of them make up classic comic book trio: the Warriors Three. Branagh's choices, however, are not without potential controversy. Let's start with the least controversial, which is pretty boy Stuart Townsend as pretty boy swashbuckler type, Fandral. Then, there's the role of Volstagg, which undoubtedly had every chubby actor in Hollywood calling his agent, hoping to get a reading (Chris Farley would have had to gain some weight to portray Volstagg the way he's drawn in the comics). But nope, instead, Branagh went with the decidedly non-obese Ray Stevenson (Punisher: War Zone, and Titus Pollo from HBO's Rome). So, will Stevenson be wearing a massive fat suit like Kevin Durand did as the Blob in X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Finally, there is Hogun the Grim, who will be played by Japanese actor Tadanobu Asano. Asano would seem like an odd choice to be playing a god in a movie about Norse mythology, but Stan Lee, way back in the early 1960s, was apparently thinking ahead, because there is a loophole here, in that Hogun is not a member of the Aesir (the race of gods that everyone else in Thor belongs to). So, if Hogun isn't an Aesir, he can be played by... basically anyone (and Hogun does indeed look sort of Asian-ish in the comics). That, however, doesn't explain the other casting news this week, which is who will be playing Heimdall, the guardian of the rainbow bridge that leads into Asgard, and who (if we're sticking to the Hogun argument) is indeed a member of the Aesir. Heimdall will be played by Idris Elba, the African-American actor who is best known for costarring in HBO's The Wire. Perhaps the thinking with casting Elba as Heimdall is that he spends most of his time wearing a massive helmet covering his face, so his race doesn't really matter. Although that argument is sort of a slippery slope, as it could lead to Robert Downey Jr. losing his job on Iron Man 3, right?


#2 THIS WEEK IN SPIDER-MAN 4 CASTING RUMORS

Last week, it was reported that Rachel McAdams was a top contender for the role of Black Cat (AKA Felicia Hardy) in Spider-Man 4. That didn't mean she had actually landed the role, but Entertainment Weekly apparently didn't get the memo, so they went to the actress to ask if she had been cast, and she said she hadn't. I suppose it's more fun to shoot down a rumor that doesn't exist, rather than to try to dig up some new facts. I don't know if either of the following are hard facts, but here we go, as McAdams is not the only name being bandied about to play Hardy this week. First up, UGO reported that Julia Stiles had met for the role, and then Deadline.com reported the same about Anne Hathaway. While all this is going on, there's another completely different casting call for the movie going on, which is the search for a 2-3 year old boy with red hair. The hot speculation is that the toddler could be playing a potential baby boy for Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson, but really, couldn't Mary Jane just as likely have a little nephew or something in the movie? They better just not ask Rachel McAdams to babysit.


#3 ELROND, FARAMIR, BARBOSSA AND DAMIEN WILL BE GUARDIANS OF GA'HOOLE

Director Zach Snyder's next movie after Watchmen is the CGI animated adventure Guardians of Ga'hoole (scheduled for 9/24/10), and the voice cast now appears to be firmed up. And it's got an impressive number of actors known for roles in genre movies that Snyder is probably a fan of. The latest additions are Sam Neill (Jurassic Park), Geoffrey Rush (Pirates of the Caribbean), Hugo Weaving (The Matrix, Lord of the Rings) and David Wenham (Lord of the Rings), and they join a cast that includes Helen Mirren (The Queen), Emilie de Ravin (LOST), Jim Sturgess (Across the Universe) and Abbie Cornish, who will also be costarring in Snyder's next film after this, Sucker Punch. Guardians of Ga'hoole is an adaptation of a series of children's fantasy novels about heroic owls who are involved in an epic battle for control of their forest.


#4 MIGHT BRIAN COX SOON BE SPORTING A +5 BEARD?

This one is just a rumor for now, but it's also concerning Guillermo del Toro's two-movie adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Hobbit, so (as with Spidey's girlfriends) even rumors get noted here. This week's AICN Down Under report has heard that casting is starting to get underway for the many actors that will be needed to portray the 13 dwarves that accompany Bilbo Baggins on his adventures. The top contender is... Brian Cox, the prolific Scottish actor whose many film roles include Agamemnon in Troy, Stryker in X2: X-Men United and Jason Bourne's ex-boss in The Bourne Identity (and he was also great in HBO's Deadwood). AICN doesn't know exactly what role Cox is up for, but he seems a likely choice to be playing Thorin Oakenshield, the leader of the company of dwarves. There had been speculation at one point that John Rhys-Davies, who played the dwarf Gimli, might return to play a dwarf in The Hobbit as well, but recently Rhys-Davies has stood by his promise after wrapping Lord of the Rings that he would never play a dwarf again, as the makeup played havoc with his skin (which you can see in the DVD extras, as his face got all red and swollen and generally painful looking).


#5 JACKASS 3-D: FULL ON RIGHT IN YOUR FACE

Paramount Pictures has updated their slate for 2010, and one of the new titles pretty much says it all: Jackass 3-D. That's right, Johnny Knoxville, Bam Margera and the rest of the wacky Jackass crew are coming to your local theater once again, and this time it'll be in 3-D. Filming starts in January, 2010 at locations around the world, including Finland, Mongolia and South Africa. That's pretty much all that is known right now.





#6 BRAD PITT WANTS TO TAKE YOU INTO A DARK VOID

Brad Pitt's Plan B production company has signed a deal to develop a movie based upon the upcoming video game Dark Void, which comes out in January, 2010 on various platforms (and yet Variety calls it a "computer game"). The story of Dark Void follows a pilot who crashes in the Bermuda Triangle and finds himself in a parallel world where aliens with superior technology have taken over Earth, and then he has to, you know, shoot at and blow up bad guys. Dark Void is being seen as a starring vehicle for Pitt, as well as a potential franchise, although one would expect that the possibility of multiple movies probably would depend upon whether the game itself is popular enough to warrant sequels.


#7 JERRY BRUCKHEIMER JOINS THE ALIEN LEGION

Jerry Bruckheimer is producing an adaptation of the 1980s comic book series Alien Legion for Disney. It's currently being rewritten by Derek Haas and Michael Brandt, the writing team responsible for cowriting Wanted, 3:10 to Yuma and next summer's The A-Team. Alien Legion was published by Epic Comics, a creator-owned imprint of Marvel Comics, and followed the adventures of a group of intergalactic soldiers from many different alien species who operated as a sort of outer space version of the French Foreign Legion. Alien Legion is unusual for Jerry Bruckheimer, who has traditionally not ventured into true science fiction very often (not counting stuff like Armageddon). For Disney, meanwhile, Alien Legion fits right into the studio's current efforts to do exactly that, with the studio currently in production of both John Carter of Mars and Tron: Legacy.


#8 EDDIE MURPHY MAY GO ON THE MISADVENTURES OF FLUFFY

One of the things that critics often opine about when reviewing Eddie Murphy's latest crappy kids' movie is that they wish he would return to the "blue" material that got his career started, back when he was the hottest thing in Hollywood. Well, here's a possibility. Eddie Murphy is attached to produce (and possibly star in) a R-rated comedy for Paramount Pictures called The Misadventures of Fluffy, which is described as being a talking animals "road trip" movie through the streets of New York that also has "an element of social comedy reminscent of Murphy's 1980's hit Trading Places." The Misadventures of Fluffy doesn't currently have a director, and the script (which was sold on spec) is by newcomers Sam Pitman and Adam Cole-Kelly. So, is the world ready for an Eddie Murphy talking animals movie that is NOT suitable for minors?


#9 JENNY TO PLAY WINNIE

Jennifer Hudson (Dreamgirls) has signed to star in Winnie, a drama about the life of Winnie Mandela, the ex-wife of Nelson Mandela. Based upon the biography Winnie Mandela: A Life the film will depict Mandela as both a wife who was a steadfast supporter of her activist husband during his years in prison, her later association with a bodyguard who tortured and murdered a 14-year-old, and her 2003 conviction of fraud. Winnie will be directed by Darrell Roodt, whose 2004 film Yesterday was nominated for an Oscar in the Best Foreign Language Film category, and who also directed the 2004 direct-to-video horror sequel Dracula 3000. Production is scheduled to start on May 30, 2010 in South Africa at locations in Johannesburg, Cape Town, Transkei and Robben Island, where Nelson Mandela was a prisoner for 18 years.


ROTTEN IDEA OF THE WEEK


#1 UNDERWORLD 4: VIC MACKEY VS GOTH VAMPIRES AND THEIR SCRUFFY WEREWOLF PALS

Screen Gems is starting development on a fourth movie in their Underworld franchise by hiring writer John Hlavin, who has no feature films to his credit, but he did write two episodes of The Shield. Neither Kate Beckinsale, who starred in the first two movies, or Rhona Mitra, who starred in the third, have signed on for a fourth movie, and there's no director yet either. The details of the story this time around are currently being kept secret, but what writer Hlavin has revealed is that it's not a prequel (like the third film in the series). As for what else the movie might entail, that's anyone's guess, but my hunch is that the nights will be awfully well-lit, and that nearly everyone will wear black. Oh, and werewolves will probably fight vampires. This one is a Rotten Idea just based upon the RT averages of the first three movies (30%, 12% and 32%).


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Comments

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Jared King

Brian Cox? As a dwarf? That's a lot of Cox...anyway, I guess he'd be fine as a dwarf. Only problem. I know he's Brain Cox! I'd probably just call the dwarf he plays "Brian Cox".

Nov 21 - 12:58 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

Keep in mind LOTR's had John Rhys Davies as a dwarf and I think he was pretty much the tallest guy in the cast if I'm not mistaken. LOL about your Brian Cox commentary.

Nov 21 - 07:51 PM

patronization

patrick smith

poor casting for thor = another X-men Origins caliber movie. They don't care about authenticity. They will stamp marvel on it, millions of dollars will be made, and millions of people will be disappointed.

Nov 21 - 01:47 PM

Grizzle

Will Ellis

Hmm... Might have to see Snyder's new ones just cause it has got some actors and actresses I like.

Nov 21 - 03:40 PM

Alexson Philip

Alexson Philipiah

well some intersting new but not really informing.

Nov 21 - 04:11 PM

marvel-fan

bryn high

i cant imagine a snyder(a slo mo action style director) making a childrens movie. about owls. saving a forest. this might be entertaing if the owls swoop down to the rythm of a bass guitar while screechin and then beheads a persian owl. blood flies everywhere. none of it touching the ground. sounds snyder-ish.

Nov 21 - 04:17 PM

li l.

li lin

Nov 21 - 07:09 PM

Shane S.

Shane Stephenson

Brian Cox has got the right kind of build for a dwarf, and I can see him playing Thorin. What I am most interested in is who is going to provide the voice of Smaug. There's a tendency in Hollywood to turn large monsters like Smaug into big dumb beasts but Smaug would be diminished if they did that to him.

Nov 21 - 09:49 PM

Bigbrother

Big Brother

If I was to go for outside the box voice casting. i.e. not saying James Earl Jones or Sir Ian McKellan I'd go with Billy Drago. He was Frank Nitti in The Untouchables and the villain on Brisco County Jr. He has a very sinister reptilian quality to his voice and since he's been making Sci Fi Channel (I refuse to acknowledge the new spelling) movies he'd probably come cheap.

Nov 22 - 05:05 PM

Paul S.

Paul S

I heard rumors awhile back that Del Toro was politely mentioning the role of Smaug to Ron Perlman, but nothing since. But having having heard a somewhat-similar voice in the original animated Hobbit, the idea of Perlman rumbling through the theater gives me goosebumps.

Nov 24 - 09:59 AM

t-joint

Tom Malmin

I hear you, and I can only hope that yours, mine, and other similar comments aren't misunderstood, either. It's kinda sad that we're forced to preface any comments regarding such matters in that way. Idris Elba is an awesome actor, but this is just weird and over the top inappropriate casting.

Nov 21 - 10:21 PM

Jimbo93

Conor Holt

I believe Del Toro wants Ron Perlman to do the voice of Smaug. Anyone know if that's still true? That would be awesome.

Nov 21 - 11:05 PM

RoyaleWithCheese

Markus Polkki

Idris Elba is British, not "African-American." That Hobbit news is interesting.

Nov 21 - 11:23 PM

Cutler to the rescue

Ted kruts

How is the casting bad? Read the recent comics, the character is not white or black, he has a face that is a star filled night sky, so this guy is not a bad choice. It is looking great, they have a top notch cast right now. Thor is going to kick ***.

Nov 21 - 11:40 PM

Euni D.

Euni Dee

It's the same thing that people thought about Michael Keaton being casted as Batman back in the day, and he turned out to be the best out of all the Batmans. People said the same thing about Jackie Earle Haley playing Rorschach in Watchmen and he turned out to be the best thing in the movie.

It's just as you said. You can't EVEN SEE the character's face. Elba's body type and talent is probably what got him the role, not his race. Wow. It is 2009 nearly 2010, right??? And people are still hung up on the color of someone's skin instead of the content of the person's character. Nice.

And yes, it is a shame that you feel the need to preface your comment with "I hope I'm not misunderstood...but". It's sad because by stating that, you know that what you're saying is not right, and is a personal hang up that you have about race, and that you have yet to explore within yourself.

Nov 23 - 07:18 AM

Cutler to the rescue

Ted kruts

It has Anthony Hopkins as Odin, that is an automatic win for anyone who knows anything about movies.

Nov 21 - 11:42 PM

agniyo

Matt Willmott

"Alien Legion" is exciting! Some really iconic characters in that. Too bad it had to come out of the heartbreaking purchase of Marvel by Disney, but at least one good thing might come of it.

Nov 22 - 12:25 AM

Matt D.

Matt Decker

Idris Elba is a great actor and will do a great job in Thor. Natalie Portman and Anthony Hopkins are also in, as well as Stellan Skarsgaard, so the cast is a very accomplished one.
Also, James McAvoy was mentioned early on as playing Bilbo Baggins. I think this would be a great choice,and wonder when they are finally going to make a decision as to who will play Bilbo. My vote's for McAvoy!

Nov 22 - 02:08 AM

tfortier

Thierry Fortier

James McAvoy look fine indeed for a hobbit except for the skinny built. Hobbits are quite large, not fat but large bones. Ian Holmes was perfect as the old Mister Baggins. Actually the first part (in the shire) of Lord of the ring Extended Edition is a small masterpiece in itself.

Cant wait to see Gandalf and gollum again. I really wonder what will the second movie be about.

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Bed Head

Ekaterina Kutznetsova

I bet that, secretly, the whole Avengers angle has already been abandoned by the studio, at least in terms of Thor. No way it could ever work (other than as a comedy). Not in "live action", anyways.

Nov 22 - 05:26 AM

adambomb

adam bomb

I thought they decided they were going to split The Hobbit into two movies?
I realize that there isn't enough text for splitting The Hobbit into two movies.
Even considering that when you take the verses and songs out of The Two Towers (the shortest book in the trilogy) it's the closest in length to The Hobbit.
And any "made up" padding would be a mistake I think.
They could just make each Hobbit movie shorter than any of the Rings movies....they could pull it off that way....Just my opinion.

Nov 22 - 05:37 AM

adambomb

adam bomb

Oh and I assume from that teaser poster for Spiderman 4 from a while back that Electro is still going to be in it?
I just have one really burning question: When is Dr. Connors going to turn into the Lizard? We've had Dr.Connors for three movies now, isn't it time to break out the Lizard?....Or maybe they will have Connors have an even greater impact on Peter's life in 4 so that it carries some weight if he turns into the Lizard in 5?
Just an ill-informed guy wantin to know...

Nov 22 - 06:01 AM

ColinTheCimmerian

Colin Hay

I hope the rumour about Cox as Thorin as true, I think that would be great casting. Too bad they can't bring Rhys-Davies back to play Gloin, who was Gimli's father.

Nov 22 - 08:49 AM

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