"Rehearsing is for fags." - Brett Ratner. Does not surprise me that he does not believe in rehearsing to make sure things actually work in the movie, it actually explains why his filmography ranges from merely decent to shit.
Nov 7 - 05:39 PM
Don't ask, Don't Tell . . .
Nov 7 - 06:24 PM
In all seriousness, I'm pretty sure Ratner (RAT-Ner) meant "wimps." Up here in Ithaca . . . a Gay Fire-Fighter saved 9 kids from a burning building. In our darkening age, "gay" men should be considered as being braver than straight men. The Roman Army actually promoted homosexuality among soldiers because soldiers who were in love with one another were more likely to die for one another. Brett RATNER is a perfect director for the mediocrity of the Academy Awards; besides, Ratner was involved in the John Cazale Documentary, the only one of its kind thus far--Brett Ratner's got favorable POINTS.
Nov 7 - 06:30 PM
Bravery does not have anything to do with sexual preference. There are brave homosexuals and brave heterosexuals. There are cowards on each end of the spectrum, too.
Nov 7 - 07:43 PM
WTF is a homosexual? I've never heard of a guy being able to impregnate another guy...
Nov 10 - 03:12 PM
Damn you people are idiots...so Ratner used a term that 1% of the populace thinks is bad...a term used by 80% of guys on a regular basis...
So now to appease the ridiculously sensitive and WAY over-opinionated minority the Oscars are abandoning the best hope they had for an actual entertaining show?
Oh and for any of you who disagree with my percentages...ask yourself if you might benefit from meeting some people in the real world instead of acquiring all of your understanding of humanity through the "arts" and the internet...
Nov 10 - 03:17 PM
I think people who pull make-belive statistics out of their asses are Idiots.
Nov 10 - 03:33 PM
Real World - fellow bigots. All those damn FACTS and...what do they call it? Oh, right. The 'Humanities' - Arts, Philosophy, other stupid shit you lurn in colluge!
Nov 10 - 03:35 PM
That's more like the Sacred Band of Thebes rather than the Roman army, I've read a lot of books about Rome and I never heard that, but I could be wrong it wouldn't be the first time.
Nov 10 - 12:13 PM
Sparta did have that 'pederasty' thing, but so does Penn State, apparently...
Nov 10 - 03:07 PM
Actually, Brett Ratner doesn't rehearse in his films because he improvises and it all started from his hey day of doing music videos!
Nov 8 - 01:39 PM
Obviously his comments are ignorant, however I don't see why he shouldn't direct the Oscars. Not sure what one has to do with the other.
Nov 7 - 05:40 PM
An example: Franco actually rehearsed and look what happened! This pig is trying to fast-track his way into a Hollywood legacy by kissing just the right asses. Now he bites the hand that feeds? (And, although the "gay mafia" may be an exaggeration, you do realize the influence of homosexuals in Hollywood? 'Not that there's anything wrong with that', I'm just pointing it out.)
Nov 7 - 06:19 PM
If you remember any of Ratners previous films- he only improvises which rehearsing is not really required! Improvises very long takes before editing them out!
Nov 8 - 01:42 PM
His 'process' isn't what's in question here. It's his taste and intellegence. This was not a Mad Mel-type drunken rant. Ratner said "faggots" in front of a press junket. As he has been hired already to do the Oscars, he's basically a representative of the Academy. It was stupid and hateful, and on top of that ungrateful to the Academy that has a number of both homosexuals and homo-friendly supporters. It perfectly captures the man's arrogance and lack of professionalism. And, btw, Sidney Lumet used improv DURING rehearsals so the editing process wouldn't cost so much in footage. I'd say his films are slightly better than Ratner's, and he had the class not to resort to 4th grade epithets, and the Academy only gave him an honorary award. To keep Ratner would be the height of hypocrisy.
Nov 8 - 02:12 PM
I didn't read the article for I was only responding to Crunk's comment on top! It is only my impression and I may not be correct, that Ratner's sore about the fact that he'll never get an Academy Award no matter how hard he tries. i don't think Ratner's straight up homophobic since he's used gay people in his films before!
Nov 8 - 02:56 PM
I'm convinced this quote is more about Ratner's arrogance (that he feels he can say what he wants with impunity) than about any hateful feelings he may or may not have. Just as Valmordas says below, this may be a common thing in straight slang (although it hasn't been in my circles since middle school), but it begs why he didn't think about the possibility that his statement, being recorded in a Q/A with a press junket, would eventually reach the ears of actual gay people. This goes beyond arrogance into stupidity. These last two qualities are what I'm calling him out on.
Nov 8 - 04:12 PM
Being recorded on a press junket may not sound as bad as it looks online, and throughout film history- after reading the book "The Secret Lives of Hollywood Directors", his slang does not appear to be as effective by comparison to offensive things that used to happened from critical film directors did 50 years ago! I mean it's your right to boycott or blacklist him, but what about all the other previous directors that have done or said worst things than Ratner! Just recently, often critically accliam director Lars von Trier said some offensive stuff while promoting "Melancholia" on some festival, I don't remember what he said except that what he said was offensive!
Nov 9 - 12:09 PM
Times haved changed. Again, it's about Rat's arrogance. I was primed to hate on him this week for his Olivia Munn comments (which he admitted were false on Howard Stern). Add all these things together, and you have a portrait of a warthog as an idiot. And I don't respect his movies. He was lucky enough to have the chemistry of Chan/Tucker, without which would have made "RH" a fairly typical direct-to-video C grade actioner. So, honestly, it doesn't take much for me to hate a little on him. But he has surely showed his ass this week, and Dumb is as Dumb does.
Nov 9 - 01:41 PM
I think the thing is that because he's a human being and when a human being says something that shouldn't have been said or deemed to be offensive, just like you or me, they're entitled to be given a second chance. I mean, I don't know how many relatives you have, but I'm sure if a slip up happened in your family, would you try to defend him or would you just move on, Eddie can just be making a statement saying that if the Oscars dismissing Ratner, than I'm leaving with him too since I have a good working relationship with him while working on "Tower Heist", meaning that what Murphy did is what anyone else would do if s/he were put in that same situation too. I mean no ones perfect and sometimes it can just be as 'hard' to be a public figure as being a civilize person in real life!
Nov 9 - 02:33 PM
Exactly the type of hubris that makes Ratner an over-pampered brat who mistakes his own laziness for some strange, rancid kind of inspiration. First misogyny and now homophobia (and in Hollywood, of all places!). He oozes entitlement and undeserved assurance. The Academy should bind side him by retaining Murphy anyway (at least his gay jokes are over 20 years old at this point). I don't see why Eddie should be so beholden to Ratner just for starring in one of his films. The Academy should realize that the enormous support for an Eddie comeback (and for an actual comedian host)is genuine, and they need to cut Ratner loose and keep the merchandise. Lose this Ratbag bastard!
Nov 7 - 06:13 PM
Tall Cool One !
Freedom of speech my ass.
Nov 7 - 07:22 PM
He has the freedom to say whatever he wants, but that doesn't mean there aren't consequences. If I spoke that way at work, I would certainly be sat down with HR at the very least.
That said, don't these idiots have a filter? It seems every week a celebrity says or "tweets" something stupid, then offers up a lame apology.
Nov 8 - 05:45 AM
The discussion is whether to fire him, not arrest him. His freedom of speech is intact, as is the Academy's freedom to fire people.
Nov 8 - 06:01 AM
Just to be sure are we talking about the same academy that gave an oscar to a kiddie rapist?
We have a phrase over here "sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never harm me" I think some people need to just grow up and go about thier business.
Besides, Eddie Murphy is still hosting the oscars right? Shall we just ignore the whole "giving the prostitute a lift home" episode whilst pretending that he came on the scene in the early 90's and never made one single offensive remark in the preceding decade??? Or shall we continue to hopund a hack director for shooting from the hip.
For Gods sake don't sack Ratner from the oscars or he might get another directing gig earlier than the movie going public deserve.
Nov 8 - 05:13 AM
This post pretty much sums it all up. I give it Post of the Day. Cheers, Flash!
Nov 8 - 08:32 AM
Nov 8 - 08:55 AM
When Ratner makes a film half as brilliant as Polanski's worst, than I might agree with you. (I belive Polanski's "The Tenet" was on Ratner's own Top Five) And I'm not going to lie and say I'm not taking an opportunity to hate on Rat, but this does show the unctious quality about him that churns the stomach. And Eddie is VERY gay-friendly these days. I believe he took his friend Johhny Gill on his honeymoon. Eddie's jokes from the 80s are nearly a quarter-century old. All the more reason for calling out a grown man like Ratner for his shameless, thoughtless comment.
Nov 8 - 02:22 PM
Polanski's talent as a director shouldn't excuse him though which is the crux of that issue. Look at the current issue with Penn St. Joe Paterno, the most successful coach in college football history is losing his job, not because he did it himself, but because he didn't do everything in his power to see it brought to light. The Polanski case is one where I come down completely on the side of the govt and the justice department. Talent and past history are non-factors in the discussion, but you're right Ratner sucks and should be dragged into the street and publicly humiliated, not for what he did, just on general principle.
Nov 9 - 09:09 AM
I'm gay and I honestly don't care if he hosts one way or the other, I don't watch the Oscars.
Also, kind of like the "N" word, I call myself a f@g all the time.
If the intended target of the word embraces the word then it takes away whatever power the fool wielding as a weapon thinks he/she has....if that made any sense...sue me I'm not awake yet. :(
Nov 8 - 06:19 AM
I think it is all about the intent. What was Ratner's intent? To debase and assert the inferiority of "f@gs".
Nov 8 - 02:30 PM
I don't really care what celebrities say, but I DO think Ratner should be fired because he's a terrible director, and just kind of a douchey bro in general.
Nov 8 - 07:46 AM
Someday soon, noone will care who is or isn't gay. And the day after that, noone will care if Brett Ratner talks like an ignoramus or not.
Nov 8 - 08:39 AM
Thank you. :)
Nov 18 - 11:33 AM
The answer to Should **Blank** Fire Brett Ratner is always going to be a yes regardless.
Nov 8 - 09:10 AM
I just don't get what his issue is with Harley Riders though :)
Nov 8 - 09:13 AM
F*cking awesome comment. I bet 2% of readers will get it too.
Nov 8 - 02:31 PM
I like the part of the episode where the gay rights group realizes they can make it work for them and totally comes down in favor of it, that and when Emmanuel Lewis gets dragged behind the motorcycle...it just works on many levels :)
Nov 9 - 09:05 AM
Totally! I love when the bikers get the attention of the people in the restaurant.
Nov 9 - 09:13 AM
It's more about his issue with winners of Guitar Hero.
Nov 9 - 03:46 AM
It's pretty obvious how he meant to use the word, and it had nothing to do with homosexuality. Heterosexuals call each other fags all the time, so much to the extent that the word doesn't necessarily mean "Gay" anymore.
Example "Aw dude you drank the last beer? You're a fag". To suggest he was seriously saying that only gay people rehearse is ridiculous.
Nov 8 - 03:10 PM
I agree, for it's also used as a 'slang' and not as an homophobic slur!
Nov 8 - 03:50 PM
The point is kinda moot now, since he has resigned his position as producer.
Nov 8 - 04:24 PM
Really? Amen. I really hope they don't let Eddie Murphy go as well. I'll have to find out. I think it's been shown in the last couple of weeks of media attention, that there are many people who want to see Murphy return to form, and it would be a shame if that chance gets hampered over some stupid shit like this.
Nov 8 - 04:38 PM
If you recall, Murphy's old stand up material was chock full of the word 'Faggot', gay jokes and stuff waayyy worse than that Ratner guy said. Not that I care, it was hilarious at the time.
Nov 8 - 08:05 PM
Eddie and Ratner both resigned-- the word "fag" must be as bad as the N-bomb.
Nov 9 - 11:28 AM
I think you people need to watch more South Park
They officially had the definition of the word 'fag' changed.. so there, no more controversy!
Nov 9 - 08:23 AM
You can't argue with Emmanuel Lewis :)
Yeah you guys, I mean... c-c-c-c-c-c-c-c-come on.
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