Weekly Ketchup: Pixar Secretly Working on Toy Story 4?

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This Week's Ketchup includes news about possible sequels Toy Story 4 and Green Lantern 2, potential new roles for Denzel Washington and Haley Joel Osment and a few other unexpected adaptation concepts (like a movie based upon Disney's The Matterhorn). Back to Article

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Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

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Yawn

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#3 - Hell yeah! Christopher Meloni rocks!

#4 - Yay!

#5 - Yay again

#6 - Never cared for the kid, but it sure sounds like an interesting movie by far.

Rotten

#3 - Yawn

#2 - This is rotten news why?

#1 - Yawn again

Jul 1 - 04:23 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

I like your comment better than mine. yours is "straight-up" and to the point . . . mine goes "yak, yak, yak, yak, yak . . . yak-yak-yak-yak . . .duh-duh-duh duh" talk-talk-talk-talk."

as if people actually read these things. I think people really do read the comments though.

Jul 1 - 04:27 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Haha thanks.

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Jul 6 - 07:14 PM

David Gilmer

David Gilmer

Frisby, you are great. You kinda take the same approach I take to movies: After stating what I liked, I give a brief verdict or translation into basic English based on my rating. You make your points quite vividly.

May 4 - 09:43 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

ROD SERLING . . . I visit his grave fairly often in Interlaken, New York . . .its toward the back of the cemetery behind a hedge-bush. My favorite Serling (biography)-book is "Television's Last Angry Man" by Gordon F. Sanders. I met his younger daughter in an elevator on the way up to see "Next Stop at Willoughby" and "Eye of the Beholder" at Binghampton High School.

Rod Serling kept Challenging himself at everything // trying to outdo himself at every turn . . . He smoked SEVEN packs of CIGARETTES a day. His papers are near here in Ithaca College.

Interlaken, New York IS Willougby.

and . . . It's a Wonderful Life was filmed in Senaca Falls, New York (14 minutes from Interlaken).

Rod Serling always seemed to yearn for a quieter, simpler life, yet always PUSHED HIMSELF too far (consider "Walking Distance," "Time Enough At Last," "Escape Clause," and "Next Stop At Willoughby" as examples of Serling's "yearning" for a quiter, Simpler life.

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TOY STORY 4 . . . awesome. but what is alarming is THE NUMBERS (ugh. Not again? YES AGAIN . . .because The Numbers give evidence that people are getting shafted.

Keep in Mind that Disney just laid-off Five Thousand Workers on June 11, 2011

Toy Story
Budget $30 million
Gross revenue $361,958,736
(100% on the Tomatomometer)
--

Toy Story 2

Budget $90 million
Gross revenue $485,015,179

(100% on the Tomatomometer)

--
Toy Story 3

Budget $200 million
Gross revenue $1,063,171,911

(99 % on the Tomatometer)

Now, America is not Communist and is all "about" free enterprise; "we" can't tell Disney HOW to run its business, but profit margins Continue to be met and yet five thousand workers are laid-off.

(Someone attributed the inflated budgets to Actors' contacted agreements)

but Toy Story 4 is welcome

bummer about 5,000 ex-Disney employees though.

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Haley Joel Osmet . . . Victor Franklin; based on a comic-book; it'll be a hit here on R-T . . . anything with "Comic" and "book" associated with it, draws tremendous amounts of comments.

--

Mattehorn sounds nostalgic . . . I mean The Picture looks beautiful, from the 1940s. Old-Time Science-Fiction . . . a little like Issac Asimov's "Before The Golden Age: Science Fiction of the 1930s" paperback series.

---
Heart of Darkness in Space . . . sounds intriguing. Each planet will become more ancient as we see the stripping-away of civilization.

HEART OF DARKNESS has got to be the most POWERFUL novella of its type--Conrad must have a thousand sub-texts for each paragraph.

. . . since Heart of Darkness in Space is "what it is," the reverse may occur . . . each encountered-civilization may become increasingly complex yet de-humanized with each subsequent planet.

AWESOME idea--considering the possibilities.



Jul 1 - 04:24 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

I like your comment better than mine. yours is "straight-up" and to the point . . . mine goes "yak, yak, yak, yak, yak . . . yak-yak-yak-yak . . .duh-duh-duh duh" talk-talk-talk-talk."

as if people actually read these things. I think people really do read the comments though.

Jul 1 - 04:27 PM

Frisby2007

Frisby 2007

Haha thanks.

Jul 2 - 02:48 PM

Lenny M.

Lenny Monroe

Toy Story 4? Hmmm, I smell another Cars 2.....

Jul 1 - 04:32 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

unless they learn from their mistake. No one steps in the same Pile of Shit twice . . .(well, some people do--there are exceptions to every rule)

Jul 1 - 04:36 PM

Nick M.

Nick Miller

Micheal Bay doesnt step in the same shit twice he bathes in it, theres your exception

Jul 1 - 05:18 PM

KickTheBear

Philip Palomaki

Michael Bay doesn't just bathe in shit, he IS shit

Jul 1 - 05:43 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

you guys are awesome thanks

Jul 1 - 05:52 PM

Spencer S.

Spencer Saunders

Highly doubt it. Cars 1 and Cars 2 are Pixar's worst movies.

Jul 1 - 09:07 PM

Ryan N.

Ryan Nolan

Pixar has made 1 bad movie in 15 years! And that was a sequel in the only Pixar series that wasn't "great" to begin with. What makes you think a Toy Story 4 would be bad? If they don't have a good story to tell I doubt they will even make a 4th.

Jul 2 - 12:02 PM

Tridus

Chris Eaton

I dunno, Toy Story 3 bored me into submission. We need another one just as much as we needed a Cars 2, and Pixar working on it is a sign that they've lost the magic touch and are now just about the easy cash-in.

Jul 2 - 08:12 PM

Nick M.

Nick Miller

Toy Story's just seems to follow the same formula, happy start some trouble emerges then the toys have to conquer some villain and always do but only manage to by a slim margin, then have to make some giant beeline home or to a van or Andy. Dont get me wrong there good movies they just seem like they are all the same.

Jul 3 - 09:11 PM

David Gilmer

David Gilmer

Or they could try a reimagining of Toy Story. New characters, new voices, same universe. Could be a vague sequel. This is just best-case scenario. Worst-case scenario, it's a forced sequel losing the touch of the 1st 3 outings.

May 4 - 09:46 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

unless they learn from their mistake. No one steps in the same Pile of Shit twice . . .(well, some people do--there are exceptions to every rule)

Jul 1 - 04:36 PM

Nick M.

Nick Miller

Micheal Bay doesnt step in the same shit twice he bathes in it, theres your exception

Jul 1 - 05:18 PM

KickTheBear

Philip Palomaki

Michael Bay doesn't just bathe in shit, he IS shit

Jul 1 - 05:43 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

you guys are awesome thanks

Jul 1 - 05:52 PM

Indiana Jones 79

Gavin Miller

I hope they dont make toy story 4, 3 ended perfect, plus, if there gonna do another sequel do one for the incredibles or rataoulli

Jul 1 - 05:07 PM

Lenny M.

Lenny Monroe

I agree. The only Pixar film out now that deserves a sequel is The Incredibles.

Jul 1 - 05:40 PM

David Gilmer

David Gilmer

Amen!

May 4 - 09:47 PM

inka s.

inka s

Agreed. I thought the ending of TS3 was sooo perfect that I think no matter how good the sequel might be, it will certainly end up ruining and cheapen that ending. Incredibles 2 would be awesome, though. I would definitely watch that.

Jul 2 - 03:35 AM

BLaCKWoLF

BLaCKWoLF .

Could not agree with you any more, Inka. You pretty much said everything that I would have wanted to say lol.

I understand that there is a chance that the 'ending' of TS3 was simply a means of Pixar finding a way of providing closure for the Toys first life with Andy and the beginning of their new life with their new owner/s. However, I think that would mean that Pixar have become expedient and I, for one, simply refuse to believe that.

Jul 2 - 07:11 PM

Tony J.

Tony Judt

Oh please, don't make sequels for Ratatouille or Up!! Those are two perfect movies in their own rite, as I think is pretty self evident. If they make sequels for either of these two, then it will be obvious that they are either running out of ideas or have become commercially minded. Since the first one seems pretty unlikely considering the amount of creative talent at Pixar, I can only assume it would be the second. Still, I can't complain about something that hasn't happened. I just hope that Cars 2 isn't repeated. I didn't think it was as bad as everyone's saying, but it did feel empty and cold in a very disappointing way. Read my blog post about Cars 2 here: http://ahillofbeans-moviesnick.blogspot.com/2011/06/pixar-machine-sputtering-across-finish.html

Jul 4 - 03:12 PM

Tony J.

Tony Judt

Oh please, don't make sequels for Ratatouille or Up!! Those are two perfect movies in their own rite, as I think is pretty self evident. If they make sequels for either of these two, then it will be obvious that they are either running out of ideas or have become commercially minded. Since the first one seems pretty unlikely considering the amount of creative talent at Pixar, I can only assume it would be the second. Still, I can't complain about something that hasn't happened. I just hope that Cars 2 isn't repeated. I didn't think it was as bad as everyone's saying, but it did feel empty and cold in a very disappointing way. Read my blog post about Cars 2 here: ahillofbeans-moviesnick.blogspot.com/2011/06/pixar-machine-sputtering-across-finish.html

Jul 4 - 03:12 PM

Tony J.

Tony Judt

Oh please, don't make sequels for Ratatouille or Up!! Those are two perfect movies in their own rite, as I think is pretty self evident. If they make sequels for either of these two, then it will be obvious that they are either running out of ideas or have become commercially minded. Since the first one seems pretty unlikely considering the amount of creative talent at Pixar, I can only assume it would be the second. Still, I can't complain about something that hasn't happened. I just hope that Cars 2 isn't repeated. I didn't think it was as bad as everyone's saying, but it did feel empty and cold in a very disappointing way. Read my blog post about Cars 2 here: ahillofbeans-moviesnick.blogspot.com/2011/06/pixar-machine-sputtering-across-finish.html

Jul 4 - 03:12 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

All of these should be rotten. Except the casting decisions, of course.

Jul 1 - 05:11 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

WHY THE HECK IS EVERYBODY SO GODFORSAKEN NEGATIVE AND CYNICAL ON THIS SITE?
(Rod Serling's an AWESOME DUDE, we can learn a lot from his life . . .he's a guy who pressured himself too much, couldn't enjoy the fruits of his own labor because he was challenging himself all the time; that's an awesome movie idea.)//Heart of Darkness is always awesome; to see civilization and moral-cognizance decaying around the central character--a reflection of our own societal meltdown///

Jul 1 - 05:23 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

Not saying he wasn't - look at the screenwriter (hack), the movie will most probably suck. Heart of Darkness IS awesome, Apocalypse Now is based on it (hence it's already been made), but this will be set IN SPACE. How anyone can see this bullshit as positive is beyond me.

Jul 1 - 05:40 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

oh shit; you're right. I hope they change screen-writers.//Carol Serling must approve the script and the movie--maybe it'll help.// . . . maybe not

Jul 1 - 05:57 PM

Lumbergh Phucter

Jamie Eakins

I see it as a "meh". Treasure Island was Disneyized into a sci-faner and it turned out decently (not for the studio, for me). But the credentials thus far do not have me stoked.

Jul 3 - 03:31 PM

Nick M.

Nick Miller

Micheal Bay doesnt step in the same shit twice he bathes in it, theres your exception

Jul 1 - 05:18 PM

KickTheBear

Philip Palomaki

Michael Bay doesn't just bathe in shit, he IS shit

Jul 1 - 05:43 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

WHY THE HECK IS EVERYBODY SO GODFORSAKEN NEGATIVE AND CYNICAL ON THIS SITE?
(Rod Serling's an AWESOME DUDE, we can learn a lot from his life . . .he's a guy who pressured himself too much, couldn't enjoy the fruits of his own labor because he was challenging himself all the time; that's an awesome movie idea.)//Heart of Darkness is always awesome; to see civilization and moral-cognizance decaying around the central character--a reflection of our own societal meltdown///

Jul 1 - 05:23 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

Not saying he wasn't - look at the screenwriter (hack), the movie will most probably suck. Heart of Darkness IS awesome, Apocalypse Now is based on it (hence it's already been made), but this will be set IN SPACE. How anyone can see this bullshit as positive is beyond me.

Jul 1 - 05:40 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

oh shit; you're right. I hope they change screen-writers.//Carol Serling must approve the script and the movie--maybe it'll help.// . . . maybe not

Jul 1 - 05:57 PM

Lumbergh Phucter

Jamie Eakins

I see it as a "meh". Treasure Island was Disneyized into a sci-faner and it turned out decently (not for the studio, for me). But the credentials thus far do not have me stoked.

Jul 3 - 03:31 PM

Manuel G.

Manuel Granados

I do hope Pixar is not planning Toy Story 4. They ended the trilogy in such a high and emotional note, no need for more of it. They shouldn't take it to the point that people stop caring for Woody and Buzz. At least let it rest a decade or so.

Jul 1 - 05:35 PM

Superzone

Link O'Fett

My thoughts exactly.

Jul 1 - 05:38 PM

Murdoch

Murdoch +

Agreed, except for the part about the high emotional note. The highest was in Toy Story 1, but then they decided to follow the same basic story structure for 2 sequels: Toys are all together . . . . . Woody separated from group . . . . . rest of group looking for woody . . . . . woody leads friend(s) home . . . . . everyone realizes they are toys and will always have a special place in Andy's heart regardless of how often he plays with them . . . . . cue Randy Newman song . . . . . roll credits. The fact that people gushing over TS3's brilliance didn't seem to mind this annoyingly repetitive pattern only meant that Pixar could now utilize this pattern as the backdrop of as many sequels as it can produce, all while still claiming that its "what the fans are clamoring for" . . . . . right, that and another SAW movie.

Jul 1 - 06:15 PM

Manuel G.

Manuel Granados

Leaving the story aside, which is indeed a rehash of the same ones, I think the final minutes, as a coming of age story where Andy says goodbye to his toys and becomes an adult, but plays one last time with them, that part was really emotional (at least for me, it took me to when I had to give up my toys, but mine were aliens, predators and stuff like that lol). If they keep adding chapters, even if they use a different formula, I am just not gonna give a crap about Woody, Buzz and the rest of the guys.

Jul 1 - 06:55 PM

Superzone

Link O'Fett

My thoughts exactly.

Jul 1 - 05:38 PM

Lenny M.

Lenny Monroe

I agree. The only Pixar film out now that deserves a sequel is The Incredibles.

Jul 1 - 05:40 PM

David Gilmer

David Gilmer

Amen!

May 4 - 09:47 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

Not saying he wasn't - look at the screenwriter (hack), the movie will most probably suck. Heart of Darkness IS awesome, Apocalypse Now is based on it (hence it's already been made), but this will be set IN SPACE. How anyone can see this bullshit as positive is beyond me.

Jul 1 - 05:40 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

oh shit; you're right. I hope they change screen-writers.//Carol Serling must approve the script and the movie--maybe it'll help.// . . . maybe not

Jul 1 - 05:57 PM

Lumbergh Phucter

Jamie Eakins

I see it as a "meh". Treasure Island was Disneyized into a sci-faner and it turned out decently (not for the studio, for me). But the credentials thus far do not have me stoked.

Jul 3 - 03:31 PM

KickTheBear

Philip Palomaki

Michael Bay doesn't just bathe in shit, he IS shit

Jul 1 - 05:43 PM

Scott Love

Luke Simpson

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO TOY STORY 4

Jul 1 - 05:45 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

So... you're in favor of Toy Story 4, then?

Jul 1 - 06:01 PM

Murdoch

Murdoch +

True. . . . .an even number of NO's do cancel each other out . . . . .am i not incorrect?

Jul 1 - 06:56 PM

Manuel G.

Manuel Granados

I think Scott Loves him some Toy Story 4

Jul 1 - 07:05 PM

Scott Love

Luke Simpson

ha ha. :) NO

Jul 2 - 11:26 AM

Lumbergh Phucter

Jamie Eakins

Shia?

Jul 3 - 03:34 PM

David Gilmer

David Gilmer

The king of subtle are you.

May 4 - 09:48 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

you guys are awesome thanks

Jul 1 - 05:52 PM

Gordon Franklin Terry Sr

Gordon Terry

oh shit; you're right. I hope they change screen-writers.//Carol Serling must approve the script and the movie--maybe it'll help.// . . . maybe not

Jul 1 - 05:57 PM

The.Watcher

The Watcher

So... you're in favor of Toy Story 4, then?

Jul 1 - 06:01 PM

Murdoch

Murdoch +

True. . . . .an even number of NO's do cancel each other out . . . . .am i not incorrect?

Jul 1 - 06:56 PM

Manuel G.

Manuel Granados

I think Scott Loves him some Toy Story 4

Jul 1 - 07:05 PM

Scott Love

Luke Simpson

ha ha. :) NO

Jul 2 - 11:26 AM

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