New Moon Set Visit, Day Two: Pattinson's Pain, Lautner's Secret Wish

More observations from the Vancouver set of The Twilight Saga: New Moon!

In Part One of our New Moon set report, RT was among the first reporters to see the Volturi vampires who will be introduced in this November's The Twilight Saga: New Moon. We brought you a detailed description of the Volturi's underground chambers, told you what Dakota Fanning and Michael Sheen look like in character as Jane and Aro, respectively, and described screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg's positive reaction to watching Bella meet the Volturi for the first time.

Today, we're thrilled to launch our ongoing "New Moon Mondays" with Part Two of our New Moon set report! Read on for the details (including our on-set observations of Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, director Chris Weitz, and our chat with Jacob Black himself, Taylor Lautner) and check back every week for new Twilight columns, news, and interviews!

When Rotten Tomatoes arrived on the set of The Twilight Saga: New Moon for a second day of observation on the Volturi stage, filming was already underway on a pivotal scene. We'd been promised we'd see wire work, so I immediately guessed that a fight scene was on the docket. Would we see Edward (Robert Pattinson) thrown about by the hulking Volturi guard, Felix? After all, actor Daniel Cudmore (X-Men 3's Colossus) had been spotted on set the previous day, leafing through magazines between scenes.

Perhaps an Edward-Felix fight had been filmed, but it was not while we were on set. In the middle of the Volturi chamber, the scenario was similar to the previous day: Bella (Kristen Stewart), Edward (Pattinson), and Alice (Ashley Greene) stood facing off against their Volturi hosts, Aro (Michael Sheen), Jane (Dakota Fanning), and Alec (Cameron Bright). In the scene, Edward rushes forward to stop Aro from "testing" vampire powers on Bella, only to suffer the crippling pain of Jane's power. It was a tough scene; the set was eerily quiet, save for the sound of Pattinson's body hitting the ground with every take.

While the first Twilight film used plenty of wire work to achieve the look of vampires running/climbing with effortless ease (an effect criticized for a lack of weightiness and realism), wires here were being used in quite a different way. Stunt coordinator JJ Makaro, who paused for a moment to chat, said that the crew was making deliberate pains to make New Moon's action look more realistic.

"We have wire work, but we're really trying to not do a lot of it," he explained. "We don't want to get into the Hong Kong - floaty stuff that you see all the time, vampires hanging in the air and all of that. It's a tough call, because wires are wires, and the inherent problem with them is exactly that. They get floaty on you. So we're having a heck of a time trying to find the balance that gives us enough to make it supernatural without it being over the top."

Pattinson wore a dark burgundy hooded robe, his chest exposed. And yes, it was impeccably hairless and like alabaster, just as Meyer wrote it. Girls will swoon. Greene stood next to him, wearing a white and gray striped robe and red gloves. Stewart stood between them in black jeans, a short sleeved shirt, and sneakers.

As Pattinson rushed forward, wires attached to his clothing were rigged to jerk him back the moment that Jane's attack -- an invisible psychosomatic blast of pain -- hit him. He grimaced in pain as the camera closed in, neck muscles straining with effort. Finally, he fell to his knees before collapsing on the ground with a loud thud.

Behind the stage, Meyer and screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg sat together, nodding in agreement. It looked good on the monitors.

One problem: the wires were tugging Pattinson's robe too much, and would be visible in the film. The crew reset and shot it again. Thud. We began to appreciate Pattinson's commitment.

Next: We get kicked off the set, Stewart turns it on for the cameras, and Pattinson plays up the pain

Comments

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

i dont understand why they just dont film it in forks. i know a few scenes were shot there but i dont see why the majority of its being shot in canada. it makes no sense to me. i think its been a week or so but i fish on a reservation close to there and while we were fishing, the coast guard came zooming by for some reason. later that day it was on the local news that some idiot stranded his or herself on the edge of the cliff that bella recently had a scene shot on. my uncle joked about where we really were that day. or i thought he was joking.....

Jul 20 - 11:02 PM

jordan d.

jordan dobbie

the reason why it makes no sense to you is because your not a producer from summit entertainment.If you knew about what is involved with shooting a movie you would know that to actually shoot the entire movie in forks it would cost about 200 million dollars!!! Also forks has no studios, no camera or lighting gear, no hotels and it is one of the most remote towns in the entire USA. Even when they shot the first one in portland it cost them way too much cuz even portland isnt set up to do big feature films. Vancouver is the best place to shoot the twilight series because its in the pacific north west and is only second to hollywood when it comes to making movies ie: studios, crews, and also it is cheaper. So now does it make more sense?

Jul 21 - 09:02 AM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

ok so forks doesnt have a sound studio. what ever happened to filming on location? forks is not as remote as you make it sound. they need to make this film a little more authentic than the first one. theres plenty of hotels and port angeles is not too far away. if all these people would stop acting so damn spoiled then they can live with staying in a cheap hotel for once. that town would welcome all the film crews, it definently wouldnt hurt the financial situation of that place. but no im not a producer nor do i claim to be. 200 million dollars to shoot in forks? gimme a break. nothing would cost that much to film there. sighhhhhhhhhhhh..flatlanders anyway.

Jul 21 - 10:42 AM

Jaimee C.

Jaimee C

I hope I am able to answer your question about location. It's simple: There's not enough infrastructure in Forks to support the cast and crew of a film of this caliber. A LOT of housing, services, etc., are needed to support such a big production. 10 minutes of end credits for any mega movie(stunt crews, animal handlers, handlers for the animal handlers...you name it) may give you some idea of the enormity. These necessities are not a problem for a city the size of Vancouver or Portland, for that matter. In this case, the weather is similar enough to that of Forks at times. A lot of films are being shot in Vancouver as well as other unexpected cities able to meet production criteria. LA and NY are expensive. BTW, if you were wondering; weather isn't a factor when filming interiors. So, no matter where the movie is supposedd to take place, Vancouver's as good (or better) a place as anywhere, price and size-wise. Also, Vancouver has great seasonal and landscape variations that directors can work around to get consistent exteriors for a variety of settings. Hope that clarifies things :)

Jul 21 - 11:45 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Probably has to do with taxes and film friendly laws. Plus, what small town wants to deal with the fiasco for an extended period of time.

Jul 21 - 08:56 AM

jordan d.

jordan dobbie

the reason why it makes no sense to you is because your not a producer from summit entertainment.If you knew about what is involved with shooting a movie you would know that to actually shoot the entire movie in forks it would cost about 200 million dollars!!! Also forks has no studios, no camera or lighting gear, no hotels and it is one of the most remote towns in the entire USA. Even when they shot the first one in portland it cost them way too much cuz even portland isnt set up to do big feature films. Vancouver is the best place to shoot the twilight series because its in the pacific north west and is only second to hollywood when it comes to making movies ie: studios, crews, and also it is cheaper. So now does it make more sense?

Jul 21 - 09:02 AM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

ok so forks doesnt have a sound studio. what ever happened to filming on location? forks is not as remote as you make it sound. they need to make this film a little more authentic than the first one. theres plenty of hotels and port angeles is not too far away. if all these people would stop acting so damn spoiled then they can live with staying in a cheap hotel for once. that town would welcome all the film crews, it definently wouldnt hurt the financial situation of that place. but no im not a producer nor do i claim to be. 200 million dollars to shoot in forks? gimme a break. nothing would cost that much to film there. sighhhhhhhhhhhh..flatlanders anyway.

Jul 21 - 10:42 AM

Jen Yamato

Jen Yamato

Good points, Jordan. Vancouver was uniquely equipped to host the production, especially as they used sound stages extensively...

Jul 21 - 09:53 AM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

ok so forks doesnt have a sound studio. what ever happened to filming on location? forks is not as remote as you make it sound. they need to make this film a little more authentic than the first one. theres plenty of hotels and port angeles is not too far away. if all these people would stop acting so damn spoiled then they can live with staying in a cheap hotel for once. that town would welcome all the film crews, it definently wouldnt hurt the financial situation of that place. but no im not a producer nor do i claim to be. 200 million dollars to shoot in forks? gimme a break. nothing would cost that much to film there. sighhhhhhhhhhhh..flatlanders anyway.

Jul 21 - 10:42 AM

Jen Yamato

Jen Yamato

To your point, I think there is a benefit to shooting on location, but few productions ever film entirely on location - especially films of this size, which require special effects and otherworldly sets, etc. So yes, I would appreciate authentic settings, but didn't Stephenie Meyer write many of her settings without really knowing what they were like? I thought I'd read that somewhere. So perhaps the actual locations didn't exactly match the director's vision, in which case, can you blame them for going for the best possible portrayal?

Jul 21 - 12:24 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

@ jen yamato, i was merely being sarcastic,(except about it costing 200million dollars to film there.) but your right about Stephanie Meyer setting the story in a place where shes never been too. im sure alot of authors do that, if not all of them. my point is i wish these filmmakers would go to actual locations for filming. put some reality into their work instead of using "sets", sound studios and green screens. well to a point to were they have no choice but to use them. Forks is a very unique little town. and it definently would not hurt the twilight films to be filmed there.

Jul 21 - 12:44 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Hmmmm, I really liked the scenery in the first movie. It was one of the high points for me. I used to live on the Olympic peninsula in Sequim and I thought it was pretty authentic. The view of the sound from the tops of the tree's was pretty amazing and just like I remembered it.

Jul 21 - 12:41 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

@ jen yamato, i was merely being sarcastic,(except about it costing 200million dollars to film there.) but your right about Stephanie Meyer setting the story in a place where shes never been too. im sure alot of authors do that, if not all of them. my point is i wish these filmmakers would go to actual locations for filming. put some reality into their work instead of using "sets", sound studios and green screens. well to a point to were they have no choice but to use them. Forks is a very unique little town. and it definently would not hurt the twilight films to be filmed there.

Jul 21 - 12:44 PM

jordan d.

jordan dobbie

Seriously, maybe 200 million is a bit of a strech!! but have you ever looked at a map of washington state and seen where forks is? When you do a movie you need to have soooooooo much stuff readily available to your crew. There are hundreds of people that work on a single production and if you were actually gonna shoot in forks you would have to find hotels or accomodations for that many people and pay them perdiem. Thats just to crazy!!! I totally understand where you guys are coming from and im not taking the side of the studios, but you just have to understand that it is a buisness and thats part of it. Remember nothing in movies is real, and everything is fake. but when you watch it does it really matter where it was filmed?

Jul 21 - 12:51 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

uhhh ya i know where Forks is. i drive through there frequently. like i said to jen yamato. i was being sarcastic to a certain degree. but actually shooting their or finding hotels or accomodations is not impossible. port angeles and sequim are not that far off. im just saying it is very possible to film the majority of the film there.

Jul 21 - 01:20 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

uhhh ya i know where Forks is. i drive through there frequently. like i said to jen yamato. i was being sarcastic to a certain degree. but actually shooting their or finding hotels or accomodations is not impossible. port angeles and sequim are not that far off. im just saying it is very possible to film the majority of the film there.

Jul 21 - 01:20 PM

jordan d.

jordan dobbie

uuuhhhh well since you live near forks im guessing that you dont know much about film or television production. So maybe you should learn a little more about what your posting comments about. Forks is two hrs from everything, and its not that they only shoot things in sound stages and studios. Its that they do both, locations, studios, city streets. and they need to have all of those things close to each other. I also worked on new moon

Jul 21 - 02:02 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

jordan, they don't need those things. Plenty of movie's have succeeded with far flung and isolated productions. Pirates and Apocalypse Now spring to mind. Even New Moon films some scene's in Italy. It's just as you say though, an economic choice. Some productions choose to sacrifice cost for authenticity like Paints said and most choose the more economically viable option. When I was a kid I got to see both Field of Dreams and Twister filmed in Iowa and let me tell ya we got nothing close to a sound stage around there.

Jul 21 - 03:28 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

@lanca, im glad your getting the point im trying to make. i know alot of films have no choice but to film in sound studios and what not. believe me i wish peter jackson could of went to middle earth and filmed all three movies on location. that kind of film has no choice. twilight does. thats all im trying to say. if a film maker has a chance to bring authenticity to a film, why not go for it!?

Jul 21 - 04:37 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Yeah, I think it's like I originally said. They have a suitable standby that will save them profit margin. Which makes perfect sense as Jordan sayes. Though the condescending tone isn't appreciated.

Star Wars,
The Da Vinci Code
Lawrence of Arabia
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Rambo series
Rob Roy
Gladiator

All films I thought of in the last two minutes as I typed which chose authenticity or relative isolated shoots over thrift. Certain movie's simply chose to do this because their budget allows it and it usually pays off in results. Though as I'm sure you know when it fails, it really fails i.e. Waterworld which I still think is a decent movie, but has become the quintessential flop since it was released due to it's well publicized problems.

Jul 21 - 05:45 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

uuhhhh so your saying since i live near forks i know nothing about film production? well your guess is WRONG!!!!! i dont live near forks, if you read my previous posts you would know i go up that way for fishing trips and among other things. Forks is not 2hrs from everything. well for someone like you it is cause it sounds like your stuck in a populated area. and you said they need studios, city streets etc. close to each other? what about italy? thats a little ways away from vancouver.and dont try to insult me just to prove whatever point your shooting for.

Jul 21 - 04:09 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

jordan, they don't need those things. Plenty of movie's have succeeded with far flung and isolated productions. Pirates and Apocalypse Now spring to mind. Even New Moon films some scene's in Italy. It's just as you say though, an economic choice. Some productions choose to sacrifice cost for authenticity like Paints said and most choose the more economically viable option. When I was a kid I got to see both Field of Dreams and Twister filmed in Iowa and let me tell ya we got nothing close to a sound stage around there.

Jul 21 - 03:28 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

@lanca, im glad your getting the point im trying to make. i know alot of films have no choice but to film in sound studios and what not. believe me i wish peter jackson could of went to middle earth and filmed all three movies on location. that kind of film has no choice. twilight does. thats all im trying to say. if a film maker has a chance to bring authenticity to a film, why not go for it!?

Jul 21 - 04:37 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Yeah, I think it's like I originally said. They have a suitable standby that will save them profit margin. Which makes perfect sense as Jordan sayes. Though the condescending tone isn't appreciated.

Star Wars,
The Da Vinci Code
Lawrence of Arabia
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Rambo series
Rob Roy
Gladiator

All films I thought of in the last two minutes as I typed which chose authenticity or relative isolated shoots over thrift. Certain movie's simply chose to do this because their budget allows it and it usually pays off in results. Though as I'm sure you know when it fails, it really fails i.e. Waterworld which I still think is a decent movie, but has become the quintessential flop since it was released due to it's well publicized problems.

Jul 21 - 05:45 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

uuhhhh so your saying since i live near forks i know nothing about film production? well your guess is WRONG!!!!! i dont live near forks, if you read my previous posts you would know i go up that way for fishing trips and among other things. Forks is not 2hrs from everything. well for someone like you it is cause it sounds like your stuck in a populated area. and you said they need studios, city streets etc. close to each other? what about italy? thats a little ways away from vancouver.and dont try to insult me just to prove whatever point your shooting for.

Jul 21 - 04:09 PM

jordan d.

jordan dobbie

yes indeed it is a choice, but my original thing was its just really hard to shoot in forks especially when vancouver is so close. You just named three shows that took place over the last three decades, and your right when they want to make a movie and it takes place somewhere specific and they have no way to fake it, yes they do go to the real place. but any time they get a chance to fake it believe me they do!

Jul 21 - 04:10 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

@lanca, im glad your getting the point im trying to make. i know alot of films have no choice but to film in sound studios and what not. believe me i wish peter jackson could of went to middle earth and filmed all three movies on location. that kind of film has no choice. twilight does. thats all im trying to say. if a film maker has a chance to bring authenticity to a film, why not go for it!?

Jul 21 - 04:37 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Yeah, I think it's like I originally said. They have a suitable standby that will save them profit margin. Which makes perfect sense as Jordan sayes. Though the condescending tone isn't appreciated.

Star Wars,
The Da Vinci Code
Lawrence of Arabia
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Rambo series
Rob Roy
Gladiator

All films I thought of in the last two minutes as I typed which chose authenticity or relative isolated shoots over thrift. Certain movie's simply chose to do this because their budget allows it and it usually pays off in results. Though as I'm sure you know when it fails, it really fails i.e. Waterworld which I still think is a decent movie, but has become the quintessential flop since it was released due to it's well publicized problems.

Jul 21 - 05:45 PM

bigbrother

Bigbrother .

Yeah, I think it's like I originally said. They have a suitable standby that will save them profit margin. Which makes perfect sense as Jordan sayes. Though the condescending tone isn't appreciated.

Star Wars,
The Da Vinci Code
Lawrence of Arabia
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Rambo series
Rob Roy
Gladiator

All films I thought of in the last two minutes as I typed which chose authenticity or relative isolated shoots over thrift. Certain movie's simply chose to do this because their budget allows it and it usually pays off in results. Though as I'm sure you know when it fails, it really fails i.e. Waterworld which I still think is a decent movie, but has become the quintessential flop since it was released due to it's well publicized problems.

Jul 21 - 05:45 PM

jordan d.

jordan dobbie

So what you guys are saying is that they should load up 20 Semi trucks with all the Camera gear, lighting gear, grip gear, locations gear, props, set dec, sound, craft service, special fx, wardrobe, hair makeup, production office, makeup fx, ad stuff, art department, construction, paint, animals, and vfx and load it up in L.A (cuz even seattle doesnt really have all that stuff) load it up and drive it all like 36 hrs with 150 crew members and just do the movie in forks. Huh maybe I should go into the eclipse production office tomorrow and tell them your guys plan

Jul 21 - 07:42 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

ya jordan, go into the eclipse office first thing in the morning and tell them what we said. dont leave anything out either. or itll suck just as much as the first one did. and while your in there take a look at a map and check your distances. 36hrs really? damn if what you say is true about your ties to the movie business i hope you dont schedule trips or calculate costs cause so far your numbers are way off. @krystina p. nobody here INSISTED for it to be filmed ANYWHERE. sounds like you guys are just looking for an arguement.

Jul 21 - 08:23 PM

krystina p.

krystina p

All in all, money aside, they don't HAVE to do anything. especially film a movie where it is set. I mean, how any movies come out of Hollywood each year pretending to be someplace else of city blocks created to look like New York. Shooting the movie in Forks would truely do nothing to add to or take away from the actual movie. so why spend the extra movie unless it is the most important thing that matters? The actors arent being spoiled. they didn't call the production company and say "we refuse to film in such a remote location". They just show up where they are told to. It just so HAPPENS that the town they live in is a real town in the United States. What would you say if it wasnt? Nothing. The company is being logical and anyone who insists it needs to be filmed on location is just whiny.

Jul 21 - 07:44 PM

Paints Hz Shirt Red

krookedlegs Eagle Tail

ya jordan, go into the eclipse office first thing in the morning and tell them what we said. dont leave anything out either. or itll suck just as much as the first one did. and while your in there take a look at a map and check your distances. 36hrs really? damn if what you say is true about your ties to the movie business i hope you dont schedule trips or calculate costs cause so far your numbers are way off. @krystina p. nobody here INSISTED for it to be filmed ANYWHERE. sounds like you guys are just looking for an arguement.

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