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New Moon Set Visit, Day Two: Pattinson's Pain, Lautner's Secret Wish

More observations from the Vancouver set of The Twilight Saga: New Moon!

In Part One of our New Moon set report, RT was among the first reporters to see the Volturi vampires who will be introduced in this November's The Twilight Saga: New Moon. We brought you a detailed description of the Volturi's underground chambers, told you what Dakota Fanning and Michael Sheen look like in character as Jane and Aro, respectively, and described screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg's positive reaction to watching Bella meet the Volturi for the first time.

Today, we're thrilled to launch our ongoing "New Moon Mondays" with Part Two of our New Moon set report! Read on for the details (including our on-set observations of Kristen Stewart, Robert Pattinson, director Chris Weitz, and our chat with Jacob Black himself, Taylor Lautner) and check back every week for new Twilight columns, news, and interviews!

When Rotten Tomatoes arrived on the set of The Twilight Saga: New Moon for a second day of observation on the Volturi stage, filming was already underway on a pivotal scene. We'd been promised we'd see wire work, so I immediately guessed that a fight scene was on the docket. Would we see Edward (Robert Pattinson) thrown about by the hulking Volturi guard, Felix? After all, actor Daniel Cudmore (X-Men 3's Colossus) had been spotted on set the previous day, leafing through magazines between scenes.

Perhaps an Edward-Felix fight had been filmed, but it was not while we were on set. In the middle of the Volturi chamber, the scenario was similar to the previous day: Bella (Kristen Stewart), Edward (Pattinson), and Alice (Ashley Greene) stood facing off against their Volturi hosts, Aro (Michael Sheen), Jane (Dakota Fanning), and Alec (Cameron Bright). In the scene, Edward rushes forward to stop Aro from "testing" vampire powers on Bella, only to suffer the crippling pain of Jane's power. It was a tough scene; the set was eerily quiet, save for the sound of Pattinson's body hitting the ground with every take.

While the first Twilight film used plenty of wire work to achieve the look of vampires running/climbing with effortless ease (an effect criticized for a lack of weightiness and realism), wires here were being used in quite a different way. Stunt coordinator JJ Makaro, who paused for a moment to chat, said that the crew was making deliberate pains to make New Moon's action look more realistic.

"We have wire work, but we're really trying to not do a lot of it," he explained. "We don't want to get into the Hong Kong - floaty stuff that you see all the time, vampires hanging in the air and all of that. It's a tough call, because wires are wires, and the inherent problem with them is exactly that. They get floaty on you. So we're having a heck of a time trying to find the balance that gives us enough to make it supernatural without it being over the top."

Pattinson wore a dark burgundy hooded robe, his chest exposed. And yes, it was impeccably hairless and like alabaster, just as Meyer wrote it. Girls will swoon. Greene stood next to him, wearing a white and gray striped robe and red gloves. Stewart stood between them in black jeans, a short sleeved shirt, and sneakers.

As Pattinson rushed forward, wires attached to his clothing were rigged to jerk him back the moment that Jane's attack -- an invisible psychosomatic blast of pain -- hit him. He grimaced in pain as the camera closed in, neck muscles straining with effort. Finally, he fell to his knees before collapsing on the ground with a loud thud.

Behind the stage, Meyer and screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg sat together, nodding in agreement. It looked good on the monitors.

One problem: the wires were tugging Pattinson's robe too much, and would be visible in the film. The crew reset and shot it again. Thud. We began to appreciate Pattinson's commitment.

Next: We get kicked off the set, Stewart turns it on for the cameras, and Pattinson plays up the pain

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-20-2009 11:02 PM

i dont understand why they just dont film it in forks. i know a few scenes were shot there but i dont see why the majority of its being shot in canada. it makes no sense to me. i think its been a week or so but i fish on a reservation close to there and while we were fishing, the coast guard came zooming by for some reason. later that day it was on the local news that some idiot stranded his or herself on the edge of the cliff that bella recently had a scene shot on. my uncle joked about where we really were that day. or i thought he was joking.....

jordan d.

jordan d. on 07-21-2009 09:02 AM

the reason why it makes no sense to you is because your not a producer from summit entertainment.If you knew about what is involved with shooting a movie you would know that to actually shoot the entire movie in forks it would cost about 200 million dollars!!! Also forks has no studios, no camera or lighting gear, no hotels and it is one of the most remote towns in the entire USA. Even when they shot the first one in portland it cost them way too much cuz even portland isnt set up to do big feature films. Vancouver is the best place to shoot the twilight series because its in the pacific north west and is only second to hollywood when it comes to making movies ie: studios, crews, and also it is cheaper. So now does it make more sense?

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-21-2009 10:42 AM

ok so forks doesnt have a sound studio. what ever happened to filming on location? forks is not as remote as you make it sound. they need to make this film a little more authentic than the first one. theres plenty of hotels and port angeles is not too far away. if all these people would stop acting so damn spoiled then they can live with staying in a cheap hotel for once. that town would welcome all the film crews, it definently wouldnt hurt the financial situation of that place. but no im not a producer nor do i claim to be. 200 million dollars to shoot in forks? gimme a break. nothing would cost that much to film there. sighhhhhhhhhhhh..flatlanders anyway.

Jaimee C.

Jaimee C. on 07-21-2009 11:45 PM

I hope I am able to answer your question about location. It's simple: There's not enough infrastructure in Forks to support the cast and crew of a film of this caliber. A LOT of housing, services, etc., are needed to support such a big production. 10 minutes of end credits for any mega movie(stunt crews, animal handlers, handlers for the animal handlers...you name it) may give you some idea of the enormity. These necessities are not a problem for a city the size of Vancouver or Portland, for that matter. In this case, the weather is similar enough to that of Forks at times. A lot of films are being shot in Vancouver as well as other unexpected cities able to meet production criteria. LA and NY are expensive. BTW, if you were wondering; weather isn't a factor when filming interiors. So, no matter where the movie is supposedd to take place, Vancouver's as good (or better) a place as anywhere, price and size-wise. Also, Vancouver has great seasonal and landscape variations that directors can work around to get consistent exteriors for a variety of settings. Hope that clarifies things :)

bigbrother

bigbrother on 07-21-2009 08:56 AM

Probably has to do with taxes and film friendly laws. Plus, what small town wants to deal with the fiasco for an extended period of time.

Jen Yamato

Jen Yamato on 07-21-2009 09:53 AM

Good points, Jordan. Vancouver was uniquely equipped to host the production, especially as they used sound stages extensively...

Jen Yamato

Jen Yamato on 07-21-2009 12:24 PM

To your point, I think there is a benefit to shooting on location, but few productions ever film entirely on location - especially films of this size, which require special effects and otherworldly sets, etc. So yes, I would appreciate authentic settings, but didn't Stephenie Meyer write many of her settings without really knowing what they were like? I thought I'd read that somewhere. So perhaps the actual locations didn't exactly match the director's vision, in which case, can you blame them for going for the best possible portrayal?

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-21-2009 12:44 PM

@ jen yamato, i was merely being sarcastic,(except about it costing 200million dollars to film there.) but your right about Stephanie Meyer setting the story in a place where shes never been too. im sure alot of authors do that, if not all of them. my point is i wish these filmmakers would go to actual locations for filming. put some reality into their work instead of using "sets", sound studios and green screens. well to a point to were they have no choice but to use them. Forks is a very unique little town. and it definently would not hurt the twilight films to be filmed there.

bigbrother

bigbrother on 07-21-2009 12:41 PM

Hmmmm, I really liked the scenery in the first movie. It was one of the high points for me. I used to live on the Olympic peninsula in Sequim and I thought it was pretty authentic. The view of the sound from the tops of the tree's was pretty amazing and just like I remembered it.

jordan d.

jordan d. on 07-21-2009 12:51 PM

Seriously, maybe 200 million is a bit of a strech!! but have you ever looked at a map of washington state and seen where forks is? When you do a movie you need to have soooooooo much stuff readily available to your crew. There are hundreds of people that work on a single production and if you were actually gonna shoot in forks you would have to find hotels or accomodations for that many people and pay them perdiem. Thats just to crazy!!! I totally understand where you guys are coming from and im not taking the side of the studios, but you just have to understand that it is a buisness and thats part of it. Remember nothing in movies is real, and everything is fake. but when you watch it does it really matter where it was filmed?

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-21-2009 01:20 PM

uhhh ya i know where Forks is. i drive through there frequently. like i said to jen yamato. i was being sarcastic to a certain degree. but actually shooting their or finding hotels or accomodations is not impossible. port angeles and sequim are not that far off. im just saying it is very possible to film the majority of the film there.

jordan d.

jordan d. on 07-21-2009 02:02 PM

uuuhhhh well since you live near forks im guessing that you dont know much about film or television production. So maybe you should learn a little more about what your posting comments about. Forks is two hrs from everything, and its not that they only shoot things in sound stages and studios. Its that they do both, locations, studios, city streets. and they need to have all of those things close to each other. I also worked on new moon

bigbrother

bigbrother on 07-21-2009 03:28 PM

jordan, they don't need those things. Plenty of movie's have succeeded with far flung and isolated productions. Pirates and Apocalypse Now spring to mind. Even New Moon films some scene's in Italy. It's just as you say though, an economic choice. Some productions choose to sacrifice cost for authenticity like Paints said and most choose the more economically viable option. When I was a kid I got to see both Field of Dreams and Twister filmed in Iowa and let me tell ya we got nothing close to a sound stage around there.

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-21-2009 04:37 PM

@lanca, im glad your getting the point im trying to make. i know alot of films have no choice but to film in sound studios and what not. believe me i wish peter jackson could of went to middle earth and filmed all three movies on location. that kind of film has no choice. twilight does. thats all im trying to say. if a film maker has a chance to bring authenticity to a film, why not go for it!?

bigbrother

bigbrother on 07-21-2009 05:45 PM

Yeah, I think it's like I originally said. They have a suitable standby that will save them profit margin. Which makes perfect sense as Jordan sayes. Though the condescending tone isn't appreciated.

Star Wars,
The Da Vinci Code
Lawrence of Arabia
Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Rambo series
Rob Roy
Gladiator

All films I thought of in the last two minutes as I typed which chose authenticity or relative isolated shoots over thrift. Certain movie's simply chose to do this because their budget allows it and it usually pays off in results. Though as I'm sure you know when it fails, it really fails i.e. Waterworld which I still think is a decent movie, but has become the quintessential flop since it was released due to it's well publicized problems.

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-21-2009 04:09 PM

uuhhhh so your saying since i live near forks i know nothing about film production? well your guess is WRONG!!!!! i dont live near forks, if you read my previous posts you would know i go up that way for fishing trips and among other things. Forks is not 2hrs from everything. well for someone like you it is cause it sounds like your stuck in a populated area. and you said they need studios, city streets etc. close to each other? what about italy? thats a little ways away from vancouver.and dont try to insult me just to prove whatever point your shooting for.

jordan d.

jordan d. on 07-21-2009 04:10 PM

yes indeed it is a choice, but my original thing was its just really hard to shoot in forks especially when vancouver is so close. You just named three shows that took place over the last three decades, and your right when they want to make a movie and it takes place somewhere specific and they have no way to fake it, yes they do go to the real place. but any time they get a chance to fake it believe me they do!

jordan d.

jordan d. on 07-21-2009 07:42 PM

So what you guys are saying is that they should load up 20 Semi trucks with all the Camera gear, lighting gear, grip gear, locations gear, props, set dec, sound, craft service, special fx, wardrobe, hair makeup, production office, makeup fx, ad stuff, art department, construction, paint, animals, and vfx and load it up in L.A (cuz even seattle doesnt really have all that stuff) load it up and drive it all like 36 hrs with 150 crew members and just do the movie in forks. Huh maybe I should go into the eclipse production office tomorrow and tell them your guys plan

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-21-2009 08:23 PM

ya jordan, go into the eclipse office first thing in the morning and tell them what we said. dont leave anything out either. or itll suck just as much as the first one did. and while your in there take a look at a map and check your distances. 36hrs really? damn if what you say is true about your ties to the movie business i hope you dont schedule trips or calculate costs cause so far your numbers are way off. @krystina p. nobody here INSISTED for it to be filmed ANYWHERE. sounds like you guys are just looking for an arguement.

krystina p.

krystina p. on 07-21-2009 07:44 PM

All in all, money aside, they don't HAVE to do anything. especially film a movie where it is set. I mean, how any movies come out of Hollywood each year pretending to be someplace else of city blocks created to look like New York. Shooting the movie in Forks would truely do nothing to add to or take away from the actual movie. so why spend the extra movie unless it is the most important thing that matters? The actors arent being spoiled. they didn't call the production company and say "we refuse to film in such a remote location". They just show up where they are told to. It just so HAPPENS that the town they live in is a real town in the United States. What would you say if it wasnt? Nothing. The company is being logical and anyone who insists it needs to be filmed on location is just whiny.

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Coco B.

Coco B. on 07-21-2009 09:23 PM

The thing is, they didnt do it there for a reason. okay? whether it was money issues or issues with where to stay or WHATEVER! whats done is done. The people at Summit picked it because they saw something there they liked. Who knows what it was! we will find out when the movie comes out.
blah.
great article.
bravo rotten tomatoes.

Jen Yamato

Jen Yamato on 07-21-2009 10:59 PM

Well, Twilight and New Moon shooting locations aside (since they're both over and done with, and we know exactly where they shot), if you're interested in where future Twilight films are shot, I'd recommend following Eclipse director David Slade on Twitter. He's just begun tweeting his experience while location scouting, even posting twit pics of rejected locations - so you can see what places didn't make the cut, and possibly glean info on what he's going for.

http://twitter.com/DAVID_A_SLADE

For example, he posted today:

"A long day of scouting, found Newborn hideout and battlefield finally."

Pretty cool to hear this at such an early stage, so follow him if you're interested. (And follow me @jenyamato and @rottentomatoes!)

jordan d.

jordan d. on 07-21-2009 11:39 PM

Ok so I googled it and it is a fact that it's 20hrs from L.A to Seattle if you do it all without stopping for sleep(which not many people would do) and then it's another 3hrs to forks from Seattle. So also remember that if you were driving a big truck that distance it would be a lot slower, so maybe it's more like 30 hrs. Then it would be illegal for someone who was working to drive that long without sleeping. I guess technically mr. Red shirts it is more than 36hrs. And remeber the first thing you posted was "why don't they shoot the movie in forks?? I just don't understand it!!" and I thought I was giving you an explanation to your question. It's not my opinion! It's based on what I know from my experience on New Moon. If you think the first one sucked so bad then why are you online talking about it? I guess maybe cuz you live in such an unpopulated area there is nothing better to do. So may you should check your maps and maybe quit dissin something that you obviously secretly adore and just admit that you want the twilight saga to be filmed in forks so that you could play the dumbass who drives by really fast on the road on his way fer some fishing trip

Jaimee C.

Jaimee C. on 07-22-2009 01:52 AM

FYI, Here's my point: What I just posted above is my example of how replies to honest questions SHOULD look. You can make your point w/o coming off as know-it-all smarta%#es! People like you are why I almost never read comments on line. I feel like I've been teleported to the 3rd grade. You guys are killing me here with all your arguing back and forth. You both suck at it, too, I might add....laughably poor debating skills. So, you both get off on being insulting, right? Having the last word, yes? Listen, I can be as big a sh%t in my posts as anyone(my nickname among my colleagues in the legal community is "The Wordwarrior", if that clues you in.) There's just no logical reason to get so bent out of shape over an issue so insignificant, so trivial, that you'd actually get worked up enough to spend time to Google mileage, etc.! I have to go after corporate scumbags who cause actual harm to people, and I do so on an almost daily basis. That's quite another thing. Go back and read your posts...you're both so serious...it's ridiculous! Twilight?...get real. Is this how you function in your daily lives? It scares me to the point that I felt compelled...no...obligated to let you both know (as you are symbolic of everything that's wrong w/our society) that there are better things to do with your time. Is it really worth all this effort to prove that Red Shirt is either impractical or pigheadded, or both! Why do you, Red Shirt, care that Jordan can't keep his big, self-righteous mouth shut to the point that he has to post over and over w/the results of his Google research, ad nausium. That's rich! Do you have to keep going with it? I don't know which of you egomaniacal nit wits I dislike more. There's a time and place for everything. I only pull out the Wordwarrior when someone's worthy of having their balls handed back to them on a platter. I do it regularly...I have to, it's my job. It's so cowardly to use the luxury of anonymity to compensate for all your feelings of inferiority in the real world. I'd love to see how you'd fare in only one day in my line of work. I'm glad I can type quickly...you wouldn't have been worth more than the 5 minutes I spent in between paperwork to get back on line to write and send this second post. It also amuses me to no end, knowing that the 30 minutes they make you wait between posts must absolutely frustrate the crap out of you, Jordan. lol

bigbrother

bigbrother on 07-22-2009 03:16 AM

Thanks for the cold dose of reality Jaimee. I admit I was about to get sucked into this again. It was trivial, but that was what was so frustrating to me. This discussion was answered with the second post, but here we are still talking about it.

Brittany V.

Brittany V. on 07-22-2009 02:19 AM

hear hear jaime!

jordan d.

jordan d. on 07-22-2009 09:12 AM

From L.A to seattlle is 20 hrs without stopping to sleep!(not many people would do that) then it's three hrs from Seattle to forks!! Also if you are driving a big truck it's gonna be way longer so let's say it's 30hrs, and when your driving that distance for work you are required by law to stop and sleep. So technically mr. Redshirts it's more than 36 hrs!! And if you thought the first one sucked so bad then why are you on line talking about it? You first asked the question "why don't they just shoot in forks?" and I thought that it was clear when I gave you the answer. It's not like it's my opinion!! Mayb you have nothing better to do cuz you live in such an unpopulated area. And maybe you should stop hating on sommething that you secretly adore and just admit that the real reason you want them to shoot in forks is so you can play the dumb hill Billy driving down the road on his way to a fishing trip!!

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-22-2009 12:28 PM

jordan, obviously you still missed my entire point. thats ok, like i said before your clearly looking for an arguement. all i had was a simple little question and your making it sound like its totally impossible for film makers to do. im trying to remember when i said i live in a unpopulated area. hmmm, i didnt. to clear all that up, i actually live in olympia, so stop with your dumb hill billy insults. its common for a fanboy or girl to get so butt hurt over other peoples questions that they have over a film. obviously your a big twilight dick rider that cant handle these kind of things. and ya i would love to be the dumb hillbilly driving down the road in the next film. they need more indians in this film anyway. at least i would have more involvement in the film than you claim you have. so im done arguing with you on this subject. peace out homegirl. jaime c. aka wordwarrior, that kind of nickname isnt one i would be flaunting in peoples faces. is that all you do? sit in front of a computer all frickin day? sounds pathetic.

Art V.

Art V. on 07-22-2009 02:41 PM

It's an Angsty Teenage sequal... It's not LOTR, it's not STAR WARS... It's not even Harry Potter... Who cares if it's authentic? That's like caring about your cheap Walmart shoes being made in America. Just take it for what it is, who cares. Apparently, you're from Forks. Get over it. They didn't want your town. I just hope this film has some decent action in it, because the last one, even though mildly entertaining, was very dull from what i was expecting (never read the books). I still believe True Blood is the best vampire visual entertainment out there right now. Now if only someone would make some vampire erotica movies... You'd think the porno industry would be hot on the trail with this stuff, lol.

Paints Hz Shirt Red

Paints Hz Shirt Red on 07-22-2009 07:43 PM

no im not from Forks. read my posts correctly please.

Jaimee C.

Jaimee C. on 07-22-2009 04:42 PM

I%u2019m stuck on a 4hr flight & boredom has me revisiting your replies. Tks Lanca/Brittany 4 %u201Cgetting it.%u201D The BS is still not over?***Mr. RS, do you feel that 2 interrelated posts in one night indicates that I%u2019m %u201Csitting in front of the computer all frickin day%u201D? If so, what would you say of someone who posts 8x%u2019s in 36hrs?...and I%u2019M %u201Cpathetic%u201D? I was up till 3AM, researching industrial textiles. Yippee :| After 4hrs, I took a well-deserved break to pee & catch up on news. That%u2019s when I came across your little exercise in frivolity. As for your comment on my nickname; I don%u2019t know how you did it, but I think you%u2019re the only one who missed my point entirely. You say: %u201Cisnt one i would be flaunting in peoples faces%u201D. How right you are! You%u2019d never get that privilege as nicknames are typically assigned by others. In my case it was coined by a good friend/judge 6 yrs ago & it stuck. It was meant as a compliment to my skill, if you must know. The purpose of mentioning it was only to illustrate that, just because I%u2019m fully capable of chewing you to bits, doesn't mean I should use that power to annihilate you over something as absurd as Twilight filming locales! My ONLY reason for having posted was to convey how twisted it is that expressing unwarranted passion and anger over trivial crap, has replaced taking a stand on something you believe in. What's going on w/people anymore?! ***As for Jordan; I'd initially thought he%u2019d inadvertently resubmitted his post...until I noticed his REVISIONS! ...and this from he who(in the same email, mind you)writes: "Mayb you have nothing better to do cuz you live in such an unpopulated area"... Need I say more? No, but I'm gonna! I don%u2019t address Jordan directly as he%u2019s clearly too self-absorbed to bother reading mine or anyone else%u2019s posts. Had he done so, he%u2019d have gone berserk defending himself. Wait for it...he%u2019ll be back. Have your popcorn and sodas ready for that one! So, since you%u2019re both committed to arguing yourselves into a lather for no viable reason, I thought you should know THIS: In the time it will take the average person to read all of these posts -just the US alone: 1 person has been murdered, 2 women have been raped, 10 people have been subjected to physical assault, and 10 children have been physically/sexually abused. You want to get your panties in a bunch? Start by finding something worthy of your wedgies, girls! If you%u2019d like to make a real difference, try this: http://www.childhelp.org/

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