with Awakening, the vampires-vs-werewolves Underworld franchise has finally decayed beyond the point of repair.
wrong ,bucko !
Jan 22 - 03:57 PM
you are a dumbass this movie was great
Jan 22 - 10:28 PM
no, it was beyond belief dumb and your sophistic assault only reiterates that.
Jan 22 - 10:40 PM
I must admit that, for me, the enjoyment factor this movie held was more than adequate to overcome any loss in writing style, depth, or creativity. If I must reorganize my thoughts vocabulary in a much more intellectual manner to instill in you the belief that i am capable of rational and logical thought and reasoning, then I will! However, it should not be necessary. Simply because one enjoyed this film holds no bearing on their mental capabilities nor should it be a light to any questioning of their education or sophistication. I am quite capable of handling myself as human being that has an education and the ability to rationalize on my own; you seem to think, though, that anyone who enjoyed this movie must not be sophisticated! If that is truly your belief then you most assuredly and irrevocably prove your ignorance!
Jan 24 - 01:47 PM
thoughts and/or vocabulary* i apologize!
Jan 24 - 01:53 PM
How about you quit trolling fans of this film series Allister.
Jan 24 - 10:35 AM
Sorry Drew, not picking on fans. Merely reacting to the trite, poverty of intelligence being spewed, like your own.
But , now that you mention it-being a self-proclaimed "fan" is synonymous with a conservative bourgeoisie mentality inherent in fandom.
I am merely reacting to the hack amateurs launching tirades against professional critics who actually went to school to do their jobs as opposed to the juveniles who cannot even construct a sentence, which, yes, i suppose, equals fandom.
Jan 24 - 11:34 AM
Problem with critics Allister, particularly the ones you mention that "went to school" for it... believe that everything must be a "film"... some entry worthy of Canne's that is rich in plot, depth of character, etc...
Problem with this is, when the general populous goes to see a movie, while sometimes its nice to see a thought provoking film. Sometimes, its just nice to go see something fun, imaginative and put the intellectual stuff on auto-pilot.
So while these movies may not be GREAT in the same sense that The Kings Speech or Schindler's List were great, they were at the very least.... fun! Which, for many is the point.
When critics sound to full of themselves and fail to appreciate the "fun" factor in movies, then it can annoy the average film goer.
Since you're ripping on everyone who likes this series of movies, you come across just as pompous as some of these reviewers.
The only thing these people trashing these critics could be criticized for is letting the reviewers opinion bother them so much that they feel the need to trash the critic. Not worth it.
That's why I typically will only go to a movie based on User reviews rather than a critics' reviews.
Jan 24 - 01:18 PM
I agree wholeheartedly with your response, hopefully Allister will understand that he is not the only educated and intelligent person on this planet. Hopefully he might even see that some intelligent people could enjoy this movie for its non-intelligent but fun and enjoyable script and showing....just as you said! Thumbs up to you sir!
Jan 24 - 01:52 PM
The problem with that is that audience taste is fleeting.
Back in the 40s the American masses made the Andy Hardy series the most popular of its day. Of course, those are not remembered and do not stand the test of time. Indeed, they are an execrable chore to sit through today.
There is an old joke that one will never go broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public. One could also say taste and that, alas, becomes truer with each succeeding year.
The cliched and oh so often used defense is: The people vs. the critics, art film vs. entertainment.
Now, I am hardly going to be a cheerleader for the profession of film critics. There are good critics and there are hacks. Nor will I be a cheerleader strictly for film as art. I myself am long a semi-professional film critic under my actual name, and I frequently criticize the increasingly amateur critics who engage in tiresome, unimaginative cliches, lessoning the art and joy of film criticism.
But even in the realm of pure entertainment: what passed for entertainment yesterday is considered (by many) to be somewhat highbrow today. Why?
Because there is an increasing ADD issue amongst each succeeding generation and it should be called out!
It is not that I have an issue with this film in particular, which I found vapid, unoriginal, poorly written, wretched dialogue, and a plea copy of what has proceeded it, all of which impeded my ability to enjoy it. I find its level of shallow stupidity to be nauseating. I do not mind a truly stupid movie as long as its honestly stupid (Ed Wood ,of course, would be the most recognizable, obvious example). But, I detest dishonest stupidity, stupidity masked as slick marketing for the shallow, consumer masses.
And, btw, just about everything has been done with vampires and werewolves. Very old stories and none of these films have added an iota of originality to the folklore. We have been seeing this since Bela Lugosi, Christopher Lee. the Howling, Anne Rice, etc.
At least the recent comic book fad movies are trying something a little different (i.e: Captain America was the best of the recent drop) and "Rise of the Planet Of Apes" was a smart, entertaining twist on an old franchise.
However, it is, after stumbling upon user comments, the sophomoric level of aggression by "fans", upon criticism of the film (which you address).
Sure, I look at film as art, but I also can enjoy a popcorn flick, provided it's not so bad or so boringly repetitive of things I have seen a thousand times over that it makes me want to throw up.
However, rarely, if ever are the those that only know film as escapism for adolescent boys able to move past the limitations of their childhood tastes and that says much!
The level of idiotic expression has exploded in the age of the internet and , by gosh by golly, it needs to countered and if that inspires one person to express themselves in a more meaningful way, or give a better argument, then thats an accomplishment... case in point.
Jan 24 - 07:33 PM