Critic Review - Toronto Star

This is not the movie, and these are not the times, for sophisticated arguments.

March 17, 2006 Full Review Source: Toronto Star | Comments (6)
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Bobby Mora

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Wow yeah i prefer ignorance to sophisticated arguments. What a sophisticated argument you created. get a new job you human paraquat.

Mar 3 - 12:48 PM

Vasiliy Ivanovich

Vasiliy Ivanovich

There are three types of people in the world: thinkers, non-thinkers, and wanabe thinkers (those that value thinking but are too preoccupied with other things to actually make the effort). All commenters here appear to be in the last category. Just because a movie addresses an important issue (in this case - the threat of totalitarianism, the importance of freedom of speech, having the courage to think on your own), doesn't mean it provides valuable or sophisticated insights on it - not even if the movie makes use of British accents, eloquent and articulate speech, a richer vocabulary, or even symbolism.

Concerning the symbolism in this movie, to me it wasn't at all impressive. The government's black and red logo obviously symbolizes the cross and thus the use of religion to control people (the color red for causing bloodshed). I think that idea is kind of stupid nowadays, since church and state have been separated for a long time now. In addition, this kind of sybolism does not add any real value to the intellectual and emotional experience - it does not result in the activation of any new archetypal content of the psyche that would register with the issue at hand.

The symbolism, for example, of the masks in the bank heist in the prologue of The Dark Knight is a different matter. Each robber wears his particular mask (Chuckles, Grumpy, Happy, etc) and identifies with the role that he is given (to kill the guy before him). Because of their identification with their role, the Joker is able to manipulate all of them. He wears a mask too, but doesn't identify with it (symbolically, he already has something underneath - his scars and makeup). This plays out in the rest of the movie, when he is able to manipulate all the bad guys by being able to predict how they will act based on the persona (mask) they identify themselves with. For the black guy it was all about his image, for the Russian guy it was all about the money, etc. But for the Joker it was simply about screwing with everyone, being an agent of chaos. Now that's symbolism - not like the stylish bs in Vendetta.

Sep 8 - 11:22 AM

Reid Hartz

Reid Hartz

The only point at which I disagree with your argument is "since church and state have been separated for a long time now." Organized religion may have no direct say in legislature like it used to, but what about hot button issues like abortion and gay marriage? Religious doctrine directs voters and our elected representatives towards certain decisions. If you can't see that, you're nothing more than one of your aforementioned "wannabe thinkers."

Sep 11 - 04:00 PM

Cody Perrin

Cody Perrin

I don't understand how you are a top critic when you can't even see the vast amount of symbolism in this movie. "Not the times," are you saying that now, people are getting more and more stupid and want to watch mind-numbing movies? Wow, way to insult the people who sign your paycheck.

Apr 29 - 09:04 AM

Grace Kempker

Grace Kempker

If it makes you think it is the movie and even in 2006 there were things very wrong with this world. If you don't talk about it or even bring the idea that people can talk about it into the home things will never be fixed.

It is always the time and sophisticated arguments or not people should always talk about it or what happened in the movie will happen in real life.

May 24 - 10:23 AM

Peter Vu

Peter Vu

The times for what? and the movie for what? In the end, this is a movie, meant for the entertainment of an audience. While still maintaining a level of excitement, it stimulates your brain about the what if's. Is our world so perfect, that tyranny doesn't exist? You've obviously never left the U.S or at least never left it for nothing short of sandy beaches and cabana trees. There is actually a world out there, where oppression exists, how can you say this is not the time? And what the hell are you even talking about these are not the times for sophisticated arguments? It's more than an argument, it's an expression of how the director/writer feels. That is what art is about, it's only an argument if there's someone debating it. And last I checked a movie is a one way conversation, ergo the director to the audience. Your review doesnt even come remotely close to describing this movie

Jul 24 - 01:17 AM

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