ROTTEN TOMATOES: Bonding with Bond, Day 16: A View to a Kill Comments

Bonding with Bond, Day 16: A View to a Kill

by Ryan Fujitani | November 05, 2008

Summary

Community Manager RT-Ryan has never seen a single James Bond film, except for 2006's Casino Royale. To rectify the situation, he decides to watch every Bond film and write about his reaction as a 007 novice. Ryan bids farewell to the Roger Moore era with his last turn as 007, A View to a Kill. Did Moore overstay his welcome? Back to Article

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ck100 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:11 PM

I must admit I've been looking forward to this review ever since Ryan started this whole Bond thing. Now that he's done it, I've waiting to comment on this movie:

1. I agree with Ryan's assertion that the movie as a whole is silly but somehow entertaining. It's weird how some of us should hate this movie but we strangely don't.

2. What's fun about Moore being so old is you can watch the action scenes and try to pick out who is the stunt guy and who is Moore. The most obvious scene to do this is when Bond steals the taxi in Paris. My god are the stunt doubles so obvious.

3. I think the title "A View to a Kill" means something like "A landmark to destroy". Go with me on this and hopefully it will make sense. Mayday and Zorin are on the blimp, right? They see San Fransisco which is a famous, resourceful city. Now a city like San Fransisco can be a potential target for a terrorist. So in the end Mayday and Zorin are probably commenting on how the city looks so good enough to destory. So "A View to a Kill" can be translated to something like: "Wow, what a city!" "Yeah, to destroy". I apologize if this makes no sense to you, but that's how I interpreted the title.

4. I enjoy the firetruck sequence because it's so downright dumb it's silly. Plus, the obvious rear-projected background shots when Moore hangs off the ladder is so obvious it's amusing. I'm guessing the whole sequence was done for comedic effect even though it's funny for all the wrong reasons.

5. One thing that always makes me laugh is the "OHHHHHH!" noise Moore makes when he comes into peril. Some obvious examples are when May Day hits Bond with the fishing pole, when Bond's horse first jumps the course obstacle, when the ladder comes loose as Moore hangs on it, and when the blimp rope knocks Moore off the bridge.

6. Anybody notice how Moore says "Hold Tight!" in the later Bond movies? it's almost like a catchphrase. He says it twice in FYEO, once in Octopussy, and I think twice in this movie.

7. Stacy is one of the worse Bond girls because she's so whiny and wimpy. May Day, for some reason, is kind of enjoyable in a freakish sort of way. As for Moneypenny, she looks old enough to join AARP.

8. As for the Bond/May Day sex scene, well, it gave us the fun line: "A little restless, but I got off evenually." :P

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BatsInTheBelfry writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:15 PM

It definitely walks a thin line between God awful and so God awful it's good. I hate it personally, but I can see how people would like it. Enjoy the Dalton movies. License is my third favorite movie and Daylights is definitely in my top ten, and just above Casino Royale. Dalton is great as Bond, he brought an intensity to the roll and is the first Bond to actually be an expert Marksman in real life. Of all the Bonds, including Connery and Craig, Dalton's would be the one I'd be most scared of if he was angry with me.

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Mike C. writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:16 PM

I love every Bond film, although my opinion is a little low on a few (Diamonds Are Forever). The thing with me is, where a good amount of people really don't like the campiness or humor in Moore's Bond films, I think it's great. These are a few movies where I can just suspend my disbelief for a while, and just watch this ridiculous action happen in front of me and, as long as I don't take any of it seriously, it's great.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to your review of The Living Daylights, seeing as that's one of my all time favorite 007 films.

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ck100 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:18 PM

In reply to this comment (#2115605)
You can't forget some of the funny lines in this movie:

Zorin: "More! More power! More! Do it!"

Pola Ivanova: "The bubbles tickle my... Tchaikovsky!"

Zorin: "You slept well?"
Bond: "A little restless but I got off eventually."

James Bond: "Well my dear, I take it you spend quite a lot of time in the saddle."
Jenny Flex: "Yes, I love an early morning ride."
James Bond: "Well, I'm an early riser myself."

Zorin: "Intuitive improvisation is the secret of genius."

Zorin: "So, anyone else want to drop out?"

A quote similar to Bond and Plenty O'Toole in DAF:

Jenny Flex: "Welcome, sir. I'm Jenny Flex."
James Bond: "Of course you are."

Mine Foreman: [sees Bond disguised as a fireman] "Where's the fire?"
James Bond: [American accent] "In your rear end!"

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ck100 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:26 PM

Of course I must mention my favorite part from this movie. A part so silly that it's funny.

I'm talking about the single shot of Bond holding on the blimp rope and almost hitting his "crown jewels" against the pole on the top of the tower. Just seeing the horrified look on his face as well as hearing his "OHHHHH!" noise is just too priceless. lol.

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law d. writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:34 PM

I enjoy this film too, but it's clearly absolutely awful. Roger Moore needing stunt people for running up stairs shouldn't be funny, but damn, it is. The character of Stacy is just... good lord. When a great massive airship can sneak up behind you, you know you've reached a whole new level of dumb blonde.

The title song is awesome, though. And Walken never fails to crack me up. His delivery of some of his lines is classic. I think my favourite is "More! MORE POWAH!", but "I'm happiest... IN THE SADDLE!" comes close.

Oh, and I nearly forgot. The noise Roger Moore makes right at the end is hysterical.

On to some of my favourites next. I think The Living Daylights - Licence To Kill - Goldeneye may be the best run of films in the series.

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Sputnik99 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:40 PM

The campy opening scene helped escalate the popularity of snowboarding ten-fold. In a lot of ways, A View to a Kill affected modern American culture a lot more than any of the other Bond movies did. So, bad movie or not, AVTAK has some value.

Moore was Bond for too long, but I'll always like him. He was the "fun" Bond. Nowadays it seems we have the "cranky" Bond.

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J S. writes:
on Nov 05 2008 05:42 PM

Thus ends the reign of Sir Roger. Next up, the much more straight laced Timmy Dalton.
Living Daylights: Fantastic.
License to Kill: Meeehhhh.
Dalton never really appeared to enjoy himself in the role, unfortunately.

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Almost.Famous writes:
on Nov 05 2008 06:22 PM

3 more days till GOLDENEYE! Yay!

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idratherbe8587 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 06:25 PM

Saying goodbye to Moore, I have to agree with Sputnik99: He was the fun Bond. Maybe a little too goofy and campy at times, but his films have a tone and texture that is all their own. Like them or not, they're an essential part of the Bond canon. And honestly... when I think of Bond, I picture Roger Moore. He's not my favorite, but that says something.

I never warmed up to Dalton. Maybe because he's the stark opposite of Moore. Although I haven't seen them since the dawn of Craig and Casino Royale, so maybe I'll like them in a new context.

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ck100 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 06:45 PM

You guys have to understand Dalton was trying to make the character in terms of the way Ian Flemming made the character. I mean Bond was a character that was dark, brooding, violent, etc. Dalton was merely trying to make the character more this way. Some people didn't buy him because they were so used to Roger Moore's take on things. Yeah, Dalton probably could have lightened up a little, but still, he was a refreshing change after Moore stayed too long. Besides, he helped set the template for Daniel Craig's current take on things. I think people just weren't ready to accept a Bond that was so rough and tough.

It would have been interesting to see how Dalton would have progressed if could have done a Bond movie in 1991 and 1993. But it's too bad the series got in legal troubles and didn't recover until 1995. By then Dalton quit the role and Brosnan took over.

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martinscorsese25 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 06:46 PM

i've just watched Quantum Of Solace yesterday(here in philippines, it open nov 5, and we're one day earlier than america)... it was great, not as great as casino royale but it's a great bond film... the action sequences we're bourne like, handheld shaky cam, second by second editing... while the action was good, my favorite parts of the film was the conversations between M and Bond, also Daniel Craig's acting is superb... maybe next time, in bond 23, they can get a good director not just for dramatic, but for action purposes too... Marc Forster did a good job, the problem was the action sequences, too blurry! even though it works for the fighting sequences, it just don't work for car chases... my suggestion, DAVID FINCHER for Bond 23!!

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KingSigy writes:
on Nov 05 2008 06:51 PM

I can't stand this movie. Kudos to you for actually finding some entertainment value in it, but I just will not watch this Bond film again. Too much pain and not enough fun.

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Shawndorman writes:
on Nov 05 2008 06:54 PM

"It's like watching Ellen DeGeneres make out with Wesley Snipes." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! This is, by far, my least favorite Bond film. There's still no doubt that it does get SOME merit for being laughably bad. If it's the silly elements you're enjoying though, brace yourself for Dalton. After the ridiculousness of the Moore films, I found his movies to be quite refreshing (the Living Daylights, at least).

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asilentmovie writes:
on Nov 05 2008 06:59 PM

I think its unfortunate that this film sucks so much, because I actually really like the villains (Zorin & May Day) a lot. The Bond girl is the worst ever, though, and Roger Moore .. ugh. jowly.4

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indiefilmfan2 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 07:30 PM

Roger Moore wouldn't be convincing in a Viagra commercial at this point. A View to a Kill also has the most overrated Bond theme song. Maybe it's because I never really cared for Duran Duran. The Bond girls were horrible especially Tanya, although Denise Richards is nearly as bad in TWINE. Walken was decent but he was surrounded by awfulness. IMO, the worst Bond film, but because I'm a die-hard fan, I can not dislike it. It gets much better with The Living Daylights.

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ledawg1138 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 08:04 PM

Just saw Casino Royale-(2006). Best Bond ever. But I'd still see the others including this film featuring Grandpa Bond, worlds nastiest make out, and a loathing by Moore and Connery. Yeah, they don't like it.

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sunsaz writes:
on Nov 05 2008 08:05 PM

With the possible exception of Die Another Day, this was rock bottom for the Bond franchise.

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bondfreak writes:
on Nov 05 2008 08:07 PM

Haha Ryan love your comments you should write comedy one day, hilarious comparisons. Anyways you should like The Living Daylights because its a more hard edged Bond and less of the womanizer that you are probably now used to, and get this its actually got some physics around it (wow). Anyways enjoy Timothy is my least favourite as Bond but his films are pretty good because of other elements. Hope you like em, personally im waiting to see what you think of Goldeneye.

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bwozar07 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 08:46 PM

I've been pestering you about this for the last few reviews, but Ryan, I still think you should include the 1954 Casino Royale in all this.

I'm really enjoying this and I think it should be done for more series, esp. if there are editors unfamiliar with them. Perhaps Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Jack Ryan and the Burton/Schumacher Batmans?

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golrush007 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 08:52 PM

While its fault are there for all to see, I must admit that if I just want a bit of entertainment for a couple of hours I often put A View To A Kill into the DVD player. I do find it enjoyable, it has enough good elements to keep me watching - I enjoy Walken's villain, I do enjoy May Day's character as well, who makes a menacing henchwoman. The plot may be a reworked Goldfinger, but I like it as well. Also, John Barry contributed some very fine music to this film. But, there are some annoying bits like Stacey Sutton and the California Girls snowboarding bit. But there are also some very good cameo players in the film - Patrick Macnee is excellent as Tibbet, David Yip is enjoyable as Chuck Lee and Fiona Fullerton is the most attractive female character in her short role as Pola Ivanova. So definitely enough good stuff to warrant another viewing I think!

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ledawg1138 writes:
on Nov 05 2008 08:59 PM

bwozar07, I'm obviously not Ryan, but if he does other series, it should have at least 10 movies. No three day stuff. Not that that wouldn't be interesting. Oh Ryan, DO YOU LIKE INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL? Curious.

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Christian K. writes:
on Nov 05 2008 10:46 PM

I enjoy AVTAK. The snowboarding scene was new at the time (and I live in Oregon.) Rog is my favorite bond because his movies are so easy. They are perfect for parties (and quoting afterwords.) Dalton's are cool, with Living Daylight being my favorite Bond movie, but with Connery's (and Lazenby's)movies one has to pay attention. Brossan's movies one has to pay attention only to find out, at the end, there is no story at all. Those actors are all great when your alone. Off topic, but with the 70's Bond movies, they were following movie trends at the time (Live and Let Die=blackploitation, TMWTGG= Hong Kong kung-fu,Moonraker=sci-fi.)I guess one could say "License to Kill" followed those cheap Cannon produced films of the 80's (Missing in Action I, II, III, Rambo II.).

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RT-Ryan writes:
on Nov 05 2008 10:50 PM

Again, you all have been very nice, and I thank you guys for that. I'm just glad I didn't get too many sneers for actually somewhat enjoying AVTAK. It doesn't get any more mindless than this, but sometimes that just hits the spot.

ledawg, I saw your question about Crystal Skull previously and forgot to answer. I will tell you this: The Indiana Jones movies feel similar to me at times to the Roger Moore Bond films. They're mostly lighthearted, fun, and a bit campy as well. Plus, I have a soft spot for his movies because at one point I wanted to be an archaeologist, and I have a fascination for forgotten civilizations, fallen empires, ancient ruins, etc. So in that sense, yes, I thought Crystal Skull was a lot of fun, and it kept me entertained. Having said that, I absolutely hated the over-the-top silliness of some of the scenes (e.g. Mutt doing Tarzan, much like Bond did, and the jeep riding the tree down into the water), and I was thrown for a loop by the "cosmic" ending. I'd still call it "Fresh" overall, but by a small margin. At the very least, even if it was silly, it was never dull.

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Makeshift Python writes:
on Nov 06 2008 12:00 AM

The title of the film is actually from a traditional hunting song, here's the lyrics:

From a find
To a check
From a check
To a view
From a view
To a kill
In the morning

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ck100 writes:
on Nov 06 2008 01:19 AM

In reply to this comment (#2115760)
I liked your post, golrush007. Even though AVTAK gets a lot of flack, it does have some elements that can make it enjoyable. Of course some of which you have already mentioned. I mean even the worst Bond movies still have some things that are worth merit. It seems this movie is more of a "turn your brain off and enjoy" kind of movie. If you actually do that, then it's a whole lot easier to digest. I think what has helped make the Bond movies last so long is we get a mix of the "fun" movies with the more "serious" ones. So really there's something for all depending on which actor and what kind of movie you're in the mood for when it comes to watching Bond.

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dolby70mm writes:
on Nov 06 2008 02:14 AM

It's funny that Roger Moore nailed a black woman in his first and last stint as James Bond. The first one...ewwwwwwww. The second one....even more ewwwwwwer.

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Jim B. writes:
on Nov 06 2008 03:54 AM

A View to a Kill was the 1st Bond film I saw at the cinema aged 9 and at the time I loved it. I also did not even think about Moore's age but give him credit, he did his 1st Bond film aged 46 and was 58 when he did this one. People don't seem to realise Moore is actually 3 years OLDER than Sean Connery! So he was the oldest to take on the role (Sean started at 32, George 30, Dalton 41, Pierce 42, Craig 38) and the most enduring by doing 7 films in a row. I think people are very age-ist! And whilst on that subject give Moneypenny (Lois Maxwell) a break, she was 59 in this film!
Apart from being age-ist some people are also guilty of sweeping generalisations when it comes to the Moore era. 12 years, 7 films, some of the biggest earners of the Bond films up to that point, all dismissed as campy nonsense. Although there was much silliness, it was not all like that, there were some great moments harking back to Fleming%u2019s source material and other classic thrillers. There were some of the best Bond girls, villains, henchmen and stunts as well. Imagine the Bond universe if you just cut all that out. I like all the Bond films, actors, eras etc and think all have their merits but do wish this era would get more respect in the context of all of them. People never seem happy, the Moore era is dismissed as not seriousness enough and Quantum of Solace seems to be being criticised for being too serious?!?

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aconline writes:
on Nov 06 2008 04:20 AM

Dolph Lundgren's 1st movie role. Go Venz!!

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megladon8 writes:
on Nov 06 2008 05:41 AM

I was doing this long before this guy was.

He even took my title, "Bonding With Bond".

Check out my latest entry for "Die Another Day", here...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/journal_view.php?journalid=14546&entryid=549379&view=public

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drew g. writes:
on Nov 06 2008 06:48 AM

Sorry...this was just plain awful. I was a reader of the Bond books, and with Moore, movie by movie, they started to turn James Bond into Bugs Bunny. It was truly distressing to see. Then came Tim Dalton...thank God. While I find changing actors - of major characters - somewhat distressing, this change was far too long in coming.

I can't see Pierce Brosnan playing Bond in either of Dalton's movies. He brought back the gravitas that was misplaced by the Moore titles.

And just wait till you see the cargo net fight. AWESOME!

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Shahid N. writes:
on Nov 06 2008 07:08 AM

One of the worst entries in the series, be prepared to be thrilled by The Living Daylights, great movie with a good performance by Dalton.

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jomo999 writes:
on Nov 06 2008 07:21 AM

If you'gve been finding the campness of Roger Moore's later escapades too much Ryan, then you should find Dalton's era a refreshing change albeit a little short lived as I kind of gathered that one of your favourite Moore films was For your Eyes Only, am I right?
In any case, Living Daylights is a good film and Licsence to Kill is even better - it's shockingly brutal for a Bond film and all the better for it.

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The Clock King writes:
on Nov 06 2008 07:34 AM

I have definitely enjoyed reading these write ups on the Bond films. As silly and absurd AVTAK is, I rather like the movie. I really liked Patrick Macnee as Sir Godfrey Tibbett, John Barry's excellent score, and the final fight on the Golden Gate Bridge.

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Scott W. writes:
on Nov 06 2008 09:16 AM

In reply to this comment (#2115616)
I agree Dalton doesn't look comfortable.
As the Joker would say, "Why so serious?"

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Sean B. writes:
on Nov 06 2008 09:34 AM

You didn't mention the best part...James Bond actually cooks up a quiche inorder to impress his woman! Impressive move!

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ledawg1138 writes:
on Nov 06 2008 10:04 AM

I guess I'm glad to hear you "like" it. Me I loved it, all the Jones films are over the top. Well, now I know.

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RT-Ryan writes:
on Nov 06 2008 10:21 AM

Megladon8,

I responded to the thread you created in the forums. I hope that will be sufficient for you. I assure you, we did not steal the idea from you, as this idea was concocted and executed very spontaneously. We didn't have any plans for anything like this until it came up out of nowhere in conversation. And, as others have noted, this is, all things considered, not the most original idea on the planet, either.

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iankusc writes:
on Nov 06 2008 10:30 AM

What ever happened to the Grace Jones of AVTAK and Conan the Destroyer? She TOTALLY should have been in the Matrix movies. Though I note how she's sacrifices herself for Bond. Why do they ALL sacrifice themselves for Bond?

The scene with the car coming apart is a classic.

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indiefilmfan2 writes:
on Nov 06 2008 10:54 AM

In reply to this comment (#2115886)
Actually the Bond films of the 80's were the least financially successful. The most successful Bond film of all time is Thunderball, which if adjusted for inflation made over $520 million in just the US. That number is around what The Dark Knight has made, and TDK is the highest grosser of this decade. Moore's biggest success was Moonraker in 1979, which made about $225 M inflation adjusted (in the US).

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Dave J. writes:
on Nov 06 2008 12:37 PM

Because I love to watch well choreograph action films (Jackie Chan, Die Hard, Bourne series... to name a few, just like people loving slasher films but are doing well despite what critics think for example "Saw" films.
I've often wondered although his reviews are well written and self- explanatory the question I've often wondered is whether or not Ryan would've have enjoyed them more had he seen some of these Bond movies as a kid as oppose as to seeing them as an adult. Is this what a mature adult would say upon viewing them for the very first time!!! Interesting.
Guilty as charged, I haven't read everything Ryan has written, that I only briefly read about some of the ones I liked watching on repeated viewings (hoping of course positive outcomes) and may have also took those reviews out of context. Had I seen Ryan added a negative rating system out of 4 stars for instance of some kind to some of my fave Bond movies, I may not have chose to read them at all.

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RT-Ryan writes:
on Nov 06 2008 01:33 PM

Dave J,

It's true, watching all of these in rapid succession is probably not the best way to "enjoy" them all. If I had grown up with them, as you and many others here have, I'm almost positive my opinions on them would be completely different. What's more, I think these opinions would be further colored by how old I was at each viewing. It's difficult to measure up to nostalgia, but even within that context, one's sentimental value in these movies can differ vastly from another's.

But that's the interesting thing. If someone saw Octopussy at age 15, as opposed to someone who maybe saw it at age 10, would their opinions of it generally be different even based solely on age? I think so, yes. So in the same context, as I watch these for the first time now, I think I'm also equally justified in my opinions. Again, the one concession I will make is that watching them all in order in such a short period of time has probably tainted my perception of these movies much more than if I had, say, watched them spaced out over the course of a year or two, or five.

And that's sort of the whole point of this experiment. What would a grown man think of the James Bond films, if he had never seen any of them before, and had never really even had an interest in them before? One possibility is what you see before you now, but I do stress that this is only one possibility. I have the privilege of being able to view these movies in a very unique context, so it's hard to say whether my reactions are normal, or off the mark. But this is also why I stress that these aren't "reviews" as much as they're simply my "reactions" to each film. Did I like them or not? What was I thinking as each scene played out? What general observations can I make about the franchise? These are what I'm attempting to focus on.

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tgibfo writes:
on Nov 06 2008 02:55 PM

The next movie is one of the best. Dalton is an overlooked excellent addition to the Bond franchise. He tried to do what Daniel Craig did so effectively with bringing back Bond - real, rough and with few gadgets. LIVING DAYLIGHTS is one of my faves.

VIEW TO A KILL....... um..... the title song's good. The end.

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ledawg1138 writes:
on Nov 06 2008 03:40 PM

A view... to a kill! That's so lame.

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gm1200 writes:
on Nov 06 2008 04:39 PM

Man...this Megladon8 guy is really getting on my nerves...

Who cares if you have a list? Is it somewhere people log on to already? If so...you don't need to advertise...if not...I don't think anyone is interested enough to bother.

So, by all means , give your input as you see fit...but quit re-copying the same tired advertisement every day...nobody cares!

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ploodie writes:
on Nov 07 2008 04:17 AM

It goes without saying that Walken saves the film. One of his best moments is his last. I absolutely love the maniac giggle he has as he's about to slip off the bridge to his death. What a great, if fast, moment of acting. It shows in one second the total psychotic maniac he is, laughing at his own inevitable death!

That said, the movie as a whole is horrendous! I don't think I've ever watched it through in one sitting without falling asleep.

It does have one of the sexiest shots in the franchise, though. The girl in the opening credits unzipping her top with 007 written in day-glo on her breasts as they literally drop out of her top - very sexy!

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dethrowe writes:
on Nov 08 2008 09:24 AM

Funniest thing about "View" is the Duran Duran video is about 10 times more interesting/exciting than the movie itself!!! boring by pretty slow..was this Tanya Roberts last starring role??

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Gunnar H. writes:
on Nov 09 2008 10:48 AM

Take a look at Moore in For Your Eyes Only. His ageing is already obvious in that one. In the scenes where he wears the skiing gear, his neck looks like the Scarecrow's in The Wizard of Oz. And the reason is, belive it or not, Roger Moore's third face lift, made between Moonraker and FYEO. For some reason the lift failed and a big part of his face fell down to his neck. By the time of making AVTAK, matters had become quite worse.

And, ck100, the lines; Jenny Flex: "Welcome, sir. I'm Jenny Flex."
James Bond: "Of course you are." is merely a rehash from a similar line in Diamonds are Forever: Plenty O'Toole: "Hi, I'm Plenty."
James Bond: "But of course you are." I think it worked better then.

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jason h. writes:
on Nov 09 2008 03:43 PM

cant thank you enough ryan for these hilarious yet insightful reviews of the james bond series, for me and my brother have been watching all in order over the last month leading up to quantum november 14th. after each viewing we cant wait to read how your experience went. keep it up! sidenote, what was with you not mentioning the parrot ending in fyeo? great film, hilariously awful ending. ugh.

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jason h. writes:
on Nov 09 2008 03:46 PM

not so much as bad (diamonds, moonraker), just slow and bland. doesnt feel like a bond film to me.

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