Total Recall: The 25 Best Action Heroines of All Time
Summary
In this week's Wanted, Angelina Jolie returns to heat-packing form as an assassin named The Fox...but how does she measure up against the likes of fellow fatal femmes like Sigourney Weaver (Aliens), Uma Thurman (Kill Bill), Michelle Yeoh (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon), and Pam Grier (Foxy Brown)? We count down through 25 of the baddest chicks in movie history and name the number one best action heroine of all time. Back to Article
In this week's Wanted, Angelina Jolie returns to heat-packing form as an assassin named The Fox...but how does she measure up against the likes of fellow fatal femmes like Sigourney Weaver (Aliens), Uma Thurman (Kill Bill), Michelle Yeoh (Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon), and Pam Grier (Foxy Brown)? We count down through 25 of the baddest chicks in movie history and name the number one best action heroine of all time. Back to Article
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jokerboy1991 writes: on Jun 25 2008 09:13 PM Good list but there are some duds, I think the list should also deal with men I mean not to sound sexist but the coolest action stars to me are guys, no offens Jen lol, I mean Bruce Willis, Arnold, Harrison Ford (#1), Christain Bale, Will Smith is good, Keanu Reeves, Tom Cruise, and duh Matt Damon. The only ones I will say here are amazing is Uma Thurman, Carrie Ann Moss, Pam Gries, not Demmi Moore, and I am sure I will think bot MaCovoy and Jolie will be the coolest action stars after this weekend. Still a pretty cool list, I got add some of these to my netflix. (Reply to this) |
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jokerboy1991 writes: on Jun 25 2008 09:15 PM Also where's Rose McGowan, I mean come on Plannet Terror! With that machine gun leg she was a fully loaded woman! Also for the guys a forgot Russel Crowe I mean Gladiator and 3:10 to Yuma, oh and Kurt Russel. (Reply to this) |
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sovietbagpipes writes: on Jun 25 2008 09:38 PM Like most lists on here it's a mixed bag. And joker, Arnold and Ford wouldn't be near #1 (Reply to this) |
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blsinner writes: on Jun 25 2008 09:43 PM Linda Hamilton is WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY too low on the list! (Reply to this) |
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sunsaz writes: on Jun 25 2008 09:58 PM Pretty good list. A lot of the names on the list were "one-hit wonders" as far as good movies are concerned, but action films aren't exactly poetic from an acting standpoint. No argument on #1 at least. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 25 2008 10:03 PM I was happy to see Ziyi Zhang and Milla! Some I'd like to see, but maybe aren't strict heroines. Obviously Missed: Franka Potente in Run Lola Run maybe Irene Jacob in RED Keira Knightly as Domino (we see her boobs!) 1. Jodie Foster for Silence of the Lambs 2. Carrie Fisher in Star Wars 3. Gillian Anderson 4. Elizabeth Hurley in Austin Powers 5. Jennifer Jason Leigh in ExisTenZ 6. Lori Petty in Tank Girl 7. Meg Ryan in Courage Under Fire 8. Katherine Hepburn in The African Queen 9. Charlize Therone in that God Awful MTV movie . . .forgot name 10. Jane Fonda in Klute/Barbarella 11. Hilary Swank in Million Dollar Baby 12. Meryle Streep in Silkwood 13. Sarandon and G. Davis in Thelma and Louise 14. The girl from Whale Rider 15. Parker Posey as Fay Grimm 16. Mary Stuart Masterson in Fried Green Tomatoes 17. Pocahantos girl in The New World 18. Halle Berry X Men I love Famke J, but I don't think she is even the best Bond girl, let alone someone who should make the list. I'm sure I forgot a ton. Oh well. (Reply to this) |
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jokerboy1991 writes: on Jun 25 2008 10:12 PM In reply to this comment (#1812999) Oh lol yeah Arnold wouldnt be no #1, but in my opinion I consider Ford the best action hero. I mean Star Wars, Indy, and the Jack Ryan movies. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 25 2008 10:33 PM FRANCES McDormand in FARGO Natassja Kinski in Cat People Jennifer Lopez in Out of Sight Theresa Russel in . . . err, i forget. Someone help me. Julie Andrews as Mary Poppins Whoever played Scout in To Kill a Mockingbird. . . Ingrid Bergman as Joan of Arc Audrey Hepburn in Wait until Dark Sissy Spacek as Carrie Julia Roberts as Erin Brokavich Renee Zellweger in COld Mountain Judy Garland as Dorothy in OZ Sally Field as Nora Rae Angela Basset as Tina Turner Cate Blanchett in Elizabeth (BUt no way the awful awful sequel) Selma Blair in Hellboy I/II Barbara Stanwyck in Double Indemnity *Diane Lane in Streets of Fire OK. As you can tell, I'm putting off doing something by coming up with names. . . (Reply to this) |
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Silverevilchao writes: on Jun 25 2008 10:44 PM This list is FAIL. Sigourney Weaver should be #1 for Alien ALONE. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 25 2008 11:15 PM Juliet Lewis as Mallory in Natural Born Killers Neve Campbell in Scream? female main actor in first Nightmare on Elmstreet. I agree about McGowan in Planet Terror. I think this category is TOO BROAD for my simple mind. BROAD. he heh. (Reply to this) |
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CoUcH ToMaToE DoUgIe writes: on Jun 25 2008 11:48 PM Another dissapointing list, R.T. Seriously, Demi Moore? And how the hell is Weaver not in the top five? Also, is it too much too ask for you to list the best action heroines on good movies. Seriously, any list that includes a McG movie makes it an invalid list, just saying RT staff. Also, I hope these lists are not being determined by how good of an YouTube video you can find. (Reply to this) |
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mustard_tree writes: on Jun 26 2008 12:08 AM In reply to this comment (#1813186) I totally agree dude... This list sucks... Hey, where's Carrie Fisher? (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 12:55 AM Yah! Carrie Fisher! (Reply to this) |
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genxorcist writes: on Jun 26 2008 05:13 AM In reply to this comment (#1813018) I second that. She should be in the top 5 ... as should Sigourney Weaver. Ellen Ripley and Sara Conner both redefined the woman action hero. Many of the women on this list wouldn't be on this list if not for those two. (Reply to this) |
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bsideleau writes: on Jun 26 2008 06:11 AM Sigourney Weaver should be #1 hands down, no argument. And 90% of the ladies in this list shouldn't even be there....lots of 80's one-note punchlines and even a couple modern flavor of the months. (Reply to this) |
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'Stache-Attack writes: on Jun 26 2008 07:29 AM How 'bout Kiera Knightly. Three 'Pirates' movies, plus an interesting role in 'Domino'. Not great movies, but pretty strong action/heroine roles. At least better than some of others listed. (I mean come on waitsjr, seriously, Erin Brakovich??? To each their own I guess.) (Reply to this) |
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opTIMus Nerd writes: on Jun 26 2008 07:39 AM I enjoyed the list but agree Ripley and Sarah Connor are far too low. I would vote for Uma to be in top 2, if not 1, I have never seen any woman kick more *** then in the Kill Bill flicks. I appreciate the kung-fu ladies I have never heard of but there are plenty of better know heroines that are not on the list (see above comments). I also was not aware The Fifth Element is now a cult classic...I just thought is was cheap to put on syndication as it is on TV all the time. (Reply to this) |
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Soundwave2008 writes: on Jun 26 2008 08:18 AM This list is total BS! How can anyone beat out Sigourney Weaver for Alien and Aliens? No offense to any other female characters but Ellen Ripley kicked total *** in both movies. She should be number one hands down. (Reply to this) |
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Derbeste writes: on Jun 26 2008 08:48 AM I don't normally criticize RT lists. I know most of them have formulas and every list is HIGHLY subjective anyway...... But I have to agree with many of my peers on this one: - Linda Hamilton is BEYOND too low. - Sigourney Weaver should be top 3 at the very least IMO. - It seems like knowing Kung Fu will get you a much higher spot....but you don't see martial artists kicking the sh** out of robots and aliens. Glaring absences: - Carrie Fisher (as many have said). Just....WOW. - Jamie Lee Curtis. Mike Myers is cultural folklore now because of her. - Sarah Michelle Geller. Ok...not a movie heroine, but you can't deny the badassery of Buffy. - Jodie Foster. Silence of the lambs is now Iconic. - Halle Barry. Yeah...I'm joking. But I do like Storm. :) (Reply to this) |
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Derbeste writes: on Jun 26 2008 08:50 AM oh....and though she's not real.... I think Elastigirl should get an honorable mention. :) (Reply to this) |
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dougkip writes: on Jun 26 2008 09:50 AM hehe, michelle yeoh. i can see this. i loved her in tomorrow never dies. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 10:08 AM In reply to this comment (#1813702) Stache Attack, Man. I haven't slept in 30 hours. I'm entitled to mention Erin Brokavich. I mean, they had some listed that I thought Brokavich would be a better hero, what with her hotness as her weapon. . . But, remember, I was the first to bring up CARRIE FISHER!!!!! So, please, remember me for that. Oh, and the person who mentioned Pirates of the Carribean with Knightly, that's so true, that and domino and that King Arthur movie. (Reply to this) |
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JinFei3 writes: on Jun 26 2008 10:15 AM The fact that Rotten Tomatoes included so many Asian women on its list is much appreciated. Disclaimer: Rant Ahead Asian action films (both kung fu and non) are underrated and underwatched, due to datedness, limited promo, and cultural tastes. Martial arts sequences, while admittedly requires less acting like the roles of Ridley, demands tons of physical work from its performers. Yet Michelle Yeoh did her own stuntwork in her heyday(perhaps insignificant because her countless, amazing feats haven't been seen by too many western audiences), is no slouch with firearms, and has proven she is no acting-lightweight. Yeoh has also managed to become prominent largely by her own means, wading through mediocre films in her early HK career; shining at every chance she's given. She rose to stardom not through great directors like Cameron or Scott, or behemoth Hollywood budgets, but by her presence and physical prowess. She's made way for the Western appreciation for earlier, often trivialized actresses like Angela Mao, who deserves to be on the list as much as Linda Hamilton. End of Rant. (Reply to this) |
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TombstoneLawDog writes: on Jun 26 2008 10:48 AM I am VERY curious what was the formula for determing placement. Seems kind of random, to me. And 'yes' I agree that Ripley should be top 5 easy. Personally, I think Linda Hamilton, for T2 alone, should be top 5. That was the coolest, most real As I've mentioned before, I think James Cameron should get an honorable mention for being the only director, male OR female, who can consistently cast women in action roles and have it not suck >Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley in Aliens >Linda Hamilton as Sarah Conner in T2 >Jeanette Goldstein as Lt. Vasquez in Aliens Great f#cking scene: Vasquez the space marine is doing pull-ups Hudson: "Hey Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man?" Vasquez: "No (does another pull-up). --Have you?" (Assembled marines laugh) and >Jamie Lee Curtis as Helen Tasker in True Lies. (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jun 26 2008 11:29 AM Thanks for the comment, JinFei3. Personally, I love older kung fu movies, which is why I made a case for Angela Mao and Kara Hui, who I actually like better than Michelle Yeoh and Zhang Ziyi (with respect to their work). As you pointed out, these actresses had REAL fight training - well, Kara Hui was a dancer before acting but I'd say she's a pretty believable fighter as well as a great actress (see: My Young Auntie). As for these other gripes, of course we considered ladies like Jamie Lee Curtis and Carrie Fisher and Neve Campbell...but come on, they don't really look like they could kick your ***. As mentioned in the intro, these are 25 ladies that actually intimidate, through sheer strength, toughness, and general ***-kickery. Even Rose McGowan in Planet Terror spends half the movie whimpering, though I do love Cherry's machine gun leg. But her "fighting" with magic on Charmed, like Sarah Michelle Gellar on Buffy, is not exactly the most convincing stuff. (Reply to this) |
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Bronco67 writes: on Jun 26 2008 12:09 PM Horrible list. Why is Linda Hamilton all the way at the bottom, and Grace Jones?????? so high. Who's the moron? (Reply to this) |
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JimmyLegs writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:11 PM You've got some good picks like Pam Grier and Michelle Yeoh, but on the whole this is a terrible terrible list. Linda Hamilton, Sigourney Weaver, Carrie Fisher all in Top 5, no question. Just astonishing. (Reply to this) |
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JimmyLegs writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:23 PM And I have to respond to Jen's comment about the actresses who don't look like they could kick your ***. You guys titled this Best Action HEROINES, not Best Action ACTRESSES. So technically you should be ranking the characters. The ability of the actresses to do their own stunts or martial arts is utterly meaningless in this context - just give us the best female action roles ever. Ellen Ripley, Princess Leia, Sarah Connor. End of story. Oh, and I second the guy who mentioned Lt. Vasquez. (Reply to this) |
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Darth Hungus writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:37 PM This list is bulljive. Michelle Yeoh! Please, who cares about that broad. Ellen Ripley is #1. (Reply to this) |
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Darth Hungus writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:37 PM This list is bulljive. Michelle Yeoh! Please, who cares about that broad. Ellen Ripley is #1. (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:38 PM Tomato, tom-ah-to...Action Heroines, Action Actresses. We could rename it Best Bad-*** Chicks, but the intent of the list would remain the same. Angelina Jolie in any of her action roles could slaughter Carrie Fisher's Princess Leia. It's the woman behind the character that makes the list. (Reply to this) |
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JamesEarl writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:43 PM I am also pleased with the number of Asian women included on the list, glad to see the great kung fu movies and the visually stunning films like Hero and Crouching Tiger, were not overlooked. However I really would liked to have seen Chiaki Kuriyama. She is great in foreign films, Batoru Rowaiaru (Battle Royal) sticking out in my mind. And Gogo Yubari was one of my favorite characters in Kill Bill. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:57 PM Jen Yamato, I love ya. But don't diss on Carrie Fisher. She strangled Jabba the Hut while half naked with some chain! There are some scenes where she seems to have intimidated Chewbacca! Plus, she may very well have some freakin' Jedi Powers! I'm going to go get my picket sign and stay here for a while. CARRIE FISHER FOR TOP KICK-*** CHICK TOP 25!!!!! Just admit that you all made a horrible, horrible mistake, and we'll forgive you. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:58 PM Jen, Gogo was awesome in Kill Bill. Did you ever read the original 1 part giant screen-play Tarrantino wrote? A lot more Gogo. . . (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 01:59 PM Oh yah, and CARRIE FISHER TOP 25 BAD-*** CHICKS NOW!!!!! (Reply to this) |
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RT-Ryan writes: on Jun 26 2008 02:08 PM I personally am gonna disagree with Carrie Fisher myself. I'm not saying Leia isn't an iconic character, but I don't think I can see an action movie based around Princess Leia. (Reply to this) |
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JimmyLegs writes: on Jun 26 2008 02:13 PM heroine (noun) 1. the main good female CHARACTER in a work of fiction (emphasis mine) 2. a woman possessing heroic qualities or a woman who has performed heroic deeds And before you argue that these actresses possess heroic qualities or perform heroic deeds, let's do a little reality check. They're entertainers. Skilled, yes. Talented, yes. Heroic, no. I realize these lists are just for fun, but I expected a little more from a website that catalogs the writings of the world's greatest critics and scholars of cinema. Perhaps a little more emphasis on memorable characters, quality films, and a character's long-term influence on popular culture and cinema. As it is, the list seems a little juvenile. (Reply to this) |
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JinFei3 writes: on Jun 26 2008 02:35 PM Oh please, JimmyLegs, this list was obviously intended to celebrate actresses who did iconic or frequent action roles... with their characters being secondary. (Reply to this) |
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thejerk1126 writes: on Jun 26 2008 02:37 PM keira ? What boobs? (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 02:54 PM Yah, in Domino. The scene near the end when they are on some kind of hallucinagenic and a certain well known singer shows up and babbles about something that sounds apocalyptic. . . (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jun 26 2008 03:48 PM JimmyLegs, Juvenile is my middle name. It's true - Jennifer Juvenile Yamato. Says so on my birth certificate. But anyways, points taken. Thanks for your input. Tomwaitsjr, my buddy...yes, Leia is an iconic character. But I don't know; there's something about Carrie Fisher that I just never found threatening. Princess Vespa is tougher than Princess Leia, for goodness sake. Now there's a girl that can handle a blaster. But I do agree about Go Go Yubari/Chiaki Kuriyama. She's scary. (Reply to this) |
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iakobos writes: on Jun 26 2008 03:50 PM The first and realy the only action heroine who could carry on entire movie as the action star is Sigorney Weaver's Ripley. She should be #1. All the others were either not believable by themselves or had to have male co-stars with them to make it work. Weaver's Alien *** kicking Ripley stands above them all. The thing about Ripley that worked for me, where all others fail, is she wasn't trying to be sexy but neither was she trying to be a man, she was just trying to survive and rose to the occasion. (Reply to this) |
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JamesEarl writes: on Jun 26 2008 03:51 PM Thank you Jen. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 04:49 PM Wow. The wiki biography of Fisher is one of the most surprising things I've read. She's all over the place. . . Damn, she'd kick my *** by confusing the hell out of me in real life. . this may be my all time favorite wiki "biography." Below is just a short http "Fi Subsequently, she had a relationship with Creative Artists Agency principal and agent Bryan Lourd. They had one child together, Billie Catherine Lourd (born July 17, 1992). The couple's relationship ended when Lourd left her for a man. She was linked for a time to Senator Christopher Dodd and was briefly engaged to Dan Aykroyd. She also dated broadcast reporter Bob Tur in 2004-2005. In an interview on public radio in 2005, Fisher joked that she was afraid if she ever became senile she might begin to slip back into her Princess Leia character. Fisher has publicly discussed her problems with drugs, her battles with bipolar disorder, and overcoming an addiction to prescription medication, most notably on ABC TV's 20/20 and The Secret Life of the Manic Depressive with Stephen Fry on the BBC. Fisher has described herself as an "enthusiastic agnostic who would be happy to be shown that there is a God."[8] She was raised Protestant[9] and often attends Jewish services.[10]" . . . . . . . . . and then read this tidbit of info: "Princess Organa is a founding member of the New Republic. Although most of her life is devoted to such matters of state, she engages in limited study of the Jedi arts, with Luke as her teacher. Notably, she wields a blue lightsaber that she built herself." (Reply to this) |
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DarthWonka writes: on Jun 26 2008 05:28 PM Gotta love the "caucafro." Sorry if it's been said already. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 26 2008 05:33 PM Yahoo did a list of top 35 femme fatale heroines. Lots of similiarities. Oddly enough, I was thinking Tina Turner in "Beyond Thunderdome" as a joke, but, there she was. . Oh yah, and CARRIE FISHER is right there in all her metal bikini glory. (Reply to this) |
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DarthWonka writes: on Jun 26 2008 05:52 PM HEY EVERYBODY, FORGET CARRIE FISHER IN STAR WARS! WHAT ABOUT CARRIE FISHER IN THE BLUES BROTHERS AS THE BADASS JILTED BRIDE WHO STALKS AND TRIES TO ASSASSINATE OUR HEROES BY VARIOUS MEANS? Ha? Ha? (Reply to this) |
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MovieRator writes: on Jun 26 2008 11:53 PM Yey someone said it right. Michelle Yeoh sounds a reasonable #1, more so because of how long and consistent shes been. Most of the others i disagree with, especially order and the level of crap they are involved in. At least Yeoh is consistent, its easy to laugh at a lot of these "anorexic turned 3-month martial arts master killing machines". Technique and ability to pull of movements with believability doesnt even enter it. jovovich, Thurman and beckingsale among the worst overrated action heroines ive seen. Hamilton i found surprisingly undeservedly low on the list; especially in comparison to the three previously mentioned, she pulls off a "realistic action heroine" role, much better than half the bimbos several spaces ahead. (Reply to this) |
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njjn writes: on Jun 27 2008 06:10 AM Angelina Jolie above Uma Thurman? Seriously? I love Jolie but I think Kill Bill alone warranted Uma a top 3 place on the list if not number 1 (Reply to this) |
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moviechick1010 writes: on Jun 27 2008 06:18 AM Did I miss something? What happened to the 'La Femme Nikita' chicks both the film and the TV series? (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 27 2008 08:14 AM anne parillaud was original "la femme nikita" and she's in the list here. Bridget Fonda was in the awful remake... never saw the tv series. (Reply to this) |
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s3phyroth writes: on Jun 27 2008 09:11 AM The list is the top 25 heroines, that's why it doesn't include men. (Reply to this) |
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Alfred P McLovely III writes: on Jun 27 2008 10:50 AM I thought Linda Hamilton was way too low and that Weaver obvisously deserved the #1 spot. (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 27 2008 11:29 AM What about one of the fremale plants from the Happening. Ohhhh, scary. (Reply to this) |
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outis writes: on Jun 27 2008 01:38 PM In reply to this comment (#1813186) Yes, obviously our listmakers have very short memories. Ripley is not only one of the great action heroes of ANY sex, she's one of the great female leading roles of all time. How many on this list can boast four huge movies, including the classics by Mssrs. Scott and Cameron. I'm no sci fi fanboy, but her character was not only physically strong, but mentally tough and a leader. Many of these others who made it higher on the list (ehem Lara Croft? gotta get that plug in for the advertisers, no?) were merely posing action dolls in expensive effects sequences. No exploration of the tough decisions or sacrifices a hero must make. Yeah, yeah, taking it way too seriously... Slam away you bastards! I guess I'm just one of those nerds who still loves film enough to think it is a modern art form and can tell stories about fully realised characters--even when they are captains of spaceships and carry a really big gun. Silly me. (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jun 27 2008 02:05 PM Screw you guys, our list is awesome. :) Just kidding I love you all, thanks for leaving your comments! We did have a lot of debate over Sigourney Weaver/Ellen Ripley's place on the list...yes, she's great in (many of) the Alien movies, but...those Aliens do keep coming back. (Reply to this) |
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JCubedz writes: on Jun 27 2008 08:10 PM Where the F*** is Gina Davis on this list? Her Character in the "The Long Kiss Goodnight" would beat the ever loving sh*t out of just about any other character any of these actresses have portrayed. I seriously thought she would definately be top 5 for this list. Also dont forget Gina davis actually starred in a pirate movie before they were popular as well "Cut-throat Island" (Reply to this) |
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Alexcar writes: on Jun 28 2008 04:14 PM This list is a mess. (Reply to this) |
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iceman3585 writes: on Jun 29 2008 01:57 PM Anyone who takes on the ALIEN should be on the list, let alone someone who survived them for multiple movies. Sigourney Weaver is a hands down #1. (Reply to this) |
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JimmyLegs writes: on Jun 29 2008 04:19 PM In reply to this comment (#1818271) I agree with Outis 1000%. It takes a lot more than guns, kung fu, and a green screen to be a hero(ine). And one last point - one of the things that makes Ripley and Sarah Connor such marvelous heroines is that their heroism is directly tied to their womanhood. Sarah kicks butt not because she's a trained CIA assassin or random butched-out gun-toting babe, but as a way to protect the life of her son, John. And the climactic showdown with the queen in Aliens is a clash of not one but TWO mothers each trying to protect their children (Newt being Ripley's surrogate daughter in this case). Men could NOT have played those roles - and that's not something that can be said about most of the other roles on this list. (Reply to this) |
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tylermammen writes: on Jun 29 2008 06:20 PM Good especially uma thurman but come on theres too many no names (Reply to this) |
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tomwaitsjr writes: on Jun 30 2008 11:08 AM I thought about Geena Davis. Not just "Long Kiss" which was OK, but that she's an olympic level bow and arrow target shooter, and in MENSA. But, then you mentioned Cutthroad Island, which sucks out the life of Long Kiss. She does deserve to be penalyzed for that. (Reply to this) |
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smi1ey writes: on Jun 30 2008 03:38 PM I HATE MICHELLE RODRIGUEZ. that is all. (Reply to this) |
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Gordon Gekko writes: on Jun 30 2008 03:57 PM I can't believe that no one has pointed out one of the most glaring absences on the list: Tina Turner as Aunty Entity from Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome! (Reply to this) |
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Jen Yamato writes: on Jun 30 2008 04:01 PM tomwaitsjr, you read my mind. That's EXACTLY why Geena Davis doesn't make the list. (Reply to this) |
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skOMalley writes: on Jun 30 2008 04:10 PM This list obviously doesn't take into account the quality of the films and the acting ability of the actress. How is Grace Jones ranked ahead of Sigourney Weaver? How is anyone ranked above Weaver for that matter? She's by far the better actress who has been in two formative films (Alien and Aliens). Not to mention, the films stand alone as films rather than being just chick action flicks. Frankly, most of the actresses and the movies listed here suck. (Reply to this) |
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zetabosio writes: on Jun 30 2008 05:02 PM I'm glad you ranked Michelle Yeoh in #1. As I was climbing the spots, I was fearing you had left her outside the list. I believe the best thing about Michelle is that actually she is a terrific actress. I can easily see her portraying a grand dramatic leading role where no kicks or punches are included. (Reply to this) |
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zetabosio writes: on Jun 30 2008 05:15 PM In reply to this comment (#1814016) I agree with you. I thought Sigourney Weaver would be ranked as #1, not only for the terrific job she has done, but also because what her role represents in worlwide cinema. Ridley's character stands at the culprit of most influential feminine roles like Silence of the Lamb's Clarice, Gorillas in the Mist's Dian Fossey (also of Ms. Sigourney Weaver), Beauty and the Beast's Belle, The Color Purple's Celie Johnson and Sophie's Choice Sophie. But, when talking about kicking ***, at the end I can't help but think Michelle Yeoh has to be at top spot. (Reply to this) |
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TombstoneLawDog writes: on Jul 01 2008 10:47 AM In reply to this comment (#1828270) culprit = 'bad guy' not 'center' ..just trying to help (Reply to this) |
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JohnnyJonJon writes: on Jul 01 2008 05:36 PM How in the name of all that is holy did Hilary Swank rank higher than Linda Hamilton?! I do like the #1 pick though. (Reply to this) |
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sirdarkhorse writes: on Jul 01 2008 06:25 PM hola! mi nombre es sir dark horse. gracias. adios. yo want some taco bell. speaking of wich the other day i was at work (where i spend most 0f my fuking life!) and i gotz to pondering... with out the Taco Bell, pot heads would starve and vice versa! no? (Reply to this) |
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crazykila93 writes: on Jul 01 2008 09:14 PM That was overall a pretty good list. (Reply to this) |
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vaodsi writes: on Jul 01 2008 10:51 PM In reply to this comment (#1814813) YESYESYES!!!!!!! YES JEN!!!! YOU SAID IT!!!!!! AWESOME!!! JOLIE IS KING!!!! ;) (Reply to this) |
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vaodsi writes: on Jul 01 2008 11:00 PM wow... i need to get myself a life....... i almost started caring about this list... then i was like..... "DOES IT MATTER....... or.... better yet..... SHOULD IT MATTER!!!!" basically...... it's fun. People are flapping around and getting all hysterical like there's some sort of wasp up their skirt. the list is in guidlines that i agree with. FISHER never felt threatening (to me).... even in the metal bikini. Jolie has felt threatening (that's why she turns me on!!!!!!!!;) (Reply to this) |
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Switchdoctor writes: on Jul 02 2008 03:45 AM I think the spirit of this list is more about 'ACTION', so it totally makes sense. Julia Roberts for Erin Brokovich? Jodie Foster for Silence of the Lambs? Judy Garland for Wizard of Oz? While all of them are great heroines, they aren't [i]action[/i] heroines. In that sense, I agree that Sigourney Weaver could be higher. As has already been mentioned, there's also a strong case for Linda Hamilton being higher than #23. Giving props to a veteran stuntwoman is cool, but it still seems random to me. #8? Grace Jones is waaaay too high on this list. Her scene in 'Conan the Destroyer' where she's wielding that staff is definitely memorable, but it was still in the crappier of the two Conan movies. In addition, considering that this is a list of action 'heroines', I'm at a loss as to why being a bond [i]villain[/i] in 'View to a Kill' justifies ranking her so high on this list. Incidentally, there's another movie that was kind of, 'meh' (49% rotten) compared to all of the other Bond movies, although it did have the Christopher Walken factor. Having Grace Jones that high up on the totem pole for those reasons makes me wonder about other 'anti-hero/villainess' type characters that aren't here. For example, what about Michelle Pfeiffer as the Catwoman? You know, that's actually her using the bullwhip in Batman Returns. As someone has already mentioned, Jennette Goldstein should definitely be somewhere on this list for her memorable Lt Vasquez. Perhaps even more memorable than Zula, or May Day. With Jennette's background in pumping iron, and competitive gymnastics, an actual fight between Jennette and Grace would be pretty cool. I know it seems like I'm picking on Ms. Jones here again, but I'm not the one who ranked her so high when she was really only in two action driven movies that are remembered more because of how many times we've seen them on TV when there was nothing else to watch. Lastly, no, I don't think Carrie Fisher is an action heroine. Not like Jessica Biel as Abigail Whistler in the third Blade movie. Speaking of which, I can see how someone might want to try and disqualify Jessica from this list because Blade Trinity wasn't a very good film (27% rotten), but then neither was 'Conan the Destroyer' (29% rotten). (Reply to this) |
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kimberly15216 writes: on Jul 02 2008 05:23 AM This list F. What reality is this when Brigette Nielson ranks higher then Linda Hamilton or Sigourney Weaver? Put down the crack pipe. Top 7 because I included TV: 1. Sigourney Weaver 2. Linda Hamilton 3. Angelina Jolie 4. Jennifer Gardner 5. Michelle Yeoh 6. Sarah Michelle Geller 7. Uma Thurman (Reply to this) |
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kizak writes: on Jul 02 2008 08:44 AM WHERE IS CARRIE FISHER. YOU SAID THERE WOULD BE CARRIE FISHER, EGGMAN. (Reply to this) |
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Jennifer Merin writes: on Jul 02 2008 01:36 PM Whether you agree with the specifics--names and placement--or not, you've got to acknowledge that this is a list of women action stars who're not just window dressing. They're tough. They play complex, interesting characters and carry their movies. Thanks, RT staff, for putting the message out there, and stimulating this fine discussion. BTW, you might be interested in seeing our women's take on this summer's superheroes. The results of our superheroes poll are posted on www.awfj.org. And, your comments are welcome... Jennifer Merin President Alliance of Women Film Journalists www.awfj.org (Reply to this) |
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Jennifer Merin writes: on Jul 02 2008 01:44 PM Whether you agree with the specifics--names and placement--or not, you've got to acknowledge that this is a list of women action stars who're not just window dressing. They're tough. They play complex, interesting characters and carry their movies. Thanks, RT staff, for putting the message out there, and stimulating this fine discussion. BTW, you might be interested in seeing our women's take on this summer's superheroes. The results of our superheroes poll are posted on www.awfj.org. And, your comments are welcome... Jennifer Merin President Alliance of Women Film Journalists www.awfj.org (Reply to this) |
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kirangelo writes: on Jul 02 2008 02:44 PM Jennifer Garner should be atleast in the top 5. She is kick ***. No kidding. And Elektra? My word. (Reply to this) |
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Aragorn_499 writes: on Jul 02 2008 03:51 PM I have absolutely no beef with Michelle Yeoh as Numero Uno action heroine. She has both specialized in action movies and has starred in *good* action movies. But the simple fact is, most of the actresses cited on this list do not qualify both ways. There are many male actors who specialize in action movies, or at least have starred in several, and of these "many" a handful have starred in good action movies. This is simply not--yet--the case with actresses. Angelina Jolie is a good example. She has starred in several movies that qualify as action movies. But how many have scored 60 or better on the tomatometer? How many have scored 40 or better? So why is she #3 on this list. Because she is gorgeous and sexy and a hot commodity at the moment, of course. Now Sigourney Weaver or Linda Hamilton may not be as gorgeous and sexy, but they have each played iconic, unforgettable action roles in great movies. They certainly deserve to be higher on the list than, say, Pam Grier, Milla Jovovich, or Grace Jones! Who do you want at your side when a terminator from the future attacks? (Reply to this) |
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wheeler1980 writes: on Jul 03 2008 01:33 AM (Reply to this) |
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3263827 writes: on Jul 03 2008 05:28 AM In reply to this comment (#1813880) Karen Allen - if you don't know what I'm talking about then it's time you learned. (Reply to this) |
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Dunnieboy writes: on Jul 03 2008 05:56 AM Where is Dina Meyer from Starship Troopers ???? ... easily one of the more believable actresses as far as butt kicking is concerned. Of course that brings up the age old question .... Dina Meyer or Denise Richards - who's hotter ? .. I say D Meyers hands down. (Reply to this) |
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Elixor writes: on Jul 03 2008 06:13 AM Yeoh should remain one, Weaver definitely second, it gets harder after that. Garner is not great in my mind, I also hate Michelle Rodriguez (but admit she could be on this list), and I'm not offended by Carrie Fisher not being on the list (although she is a iconic heroine). I can move Linda Hamilton up and down on the list too easily, she could very well be too low. Stop hating on Grace Jones though. She's completely bad@ss. Her Conan character is great. I wish that she was younger and was able to play Storm, because she would've fit the role 100 times better than Halle Berry, it's not even close. (Reply to this) |
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Matanuki writes: on Jul 03 2008 07:36 AM In reply to this comment (#1832238) Michelle Yeoh wedged between Jennifer Garner and Sarah M Geller at #5, kimberly? Yikes! (Reply to this) |
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Matanuki writes: on Jul 03 2008 07:45 AM In reply to this comment (#1834845) Grace Jones as Storm?!!!!!! ENOUGH! I get it, the Halle Berry hate is a given on here. But let's not take it too far. If you're thinking actresses who would have been better as Storm, let's talk about Nona Gaye or Kerri Washington. If we're talking the "if she was younger" category, then we're talking Angela Bassett. But Grace fu cking Jones!? No, sir... Sorry. I just got this incredible aversion to the idea of Grace Jones as Storm. Came out of nowhere. (Reply to this) |
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Elixor writes: on Jul 03 2008 10:32 AM I feel you on Nona Gaye or Angela Bassett as Storm. They work too. I definitely don't understand the aversion to Grace Jones though. Ok, looking at the list again, Linda Hamilton is definitely too low. There's no way she should be behind the Species lady. Actually why is Natasha Henstridge on this list?! Species was terrible and Ghosts of Mars is one of the worst movies I've seen in a very long time, and I'm very tolerant to bad movies if they have a Sci-Fi theme. She's not at all a heroine, just some hot @ss that people remember, but not for being a heroine. Zoe is too high for really just being known for Death Proof IMO. Someone might name her as being a heroine if they're really into stunt work, but I'm under the impression we're talking more about characters. (Reply to this) |
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Geddy Lee's Nose writes: on Jul 03 2008 02:45 PM Siguorney, hands down is #1 followed by Linda Hamilton in T2... these others are just wannabes...then the old chick in Titanic... - J. Cameron (Reply to this) |
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jascob writes: on Jul 03 2008 02:49 PM I was ready to pronounce this list a total failure when I saw Weaver at, what, the #7 spot? I thought she should be #1 for sure. But I had forgotten about Yeoh, and she rightfully belongs in the #1 spot. But Weaver should be #2, no question. #7? Fer crying out loud. (Reply to this) |
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juice3335 writes: on Jul 03 2008 04:22 PM its called top 25 action heroin's so @ joker no there shouldn't be any guys on this list duh! (Reply to this) |
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juice3335 writes: on Jul 03 2008 04:24 PM In reply to this comment (#1812905) its called top 25 action heroin's so @ joker no there shouldn't be any guys on this list duh! (Reply to this) |
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nomargar writes: on Jul 03 2008 07:54 PM Grace Jones ahead of Sigourney Weaver? This list is a joke. (Reply to this) |
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vamshna writes: on Jul 03 2008 10:48 PM Some Bond girls are missing. (Reply to this) |
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cjjojay writes: on Jul 03 2008 11:20 PM I think this list is flawed because it lists actresses and not characters. If you want to list the best heroine based on reality, than it wouldn't be any of these people, if you think about it. OK, that's a bit sappy, but at least I can think of Jackie Brown again. (Reply to this) |
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littlekogis writes: on Jul 04 2008 12:15 AM I don't think Princess Leia is an "action" heroine. To be action-type there needs to be some element of adrenaline, and Carrie just doesn't bring that in. Linda needs to be higher, but agree with 1st spot. Although some of these are action-babe types, aka, basic anorexic B-movie star who, through the help of wires and sound effects, can be made to look, at best, like they're punching a foot of air or a balloon excitedly. Still, good list. (Reply to this) |
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timjim writes: on Jul 04 2008 03:13 PM I think people misread the heading - this is ACTION folks... some have listed actresses in drama movies...this list has its share of faults, but hands down, Geena Davis in The Long Kiss Goodnight from 1996 - COME ON!!! The movie is a bit over the top, but she rocked as an action hero. (Reply to this) |
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jigrig writes: on Jul 04 2008 07:08 PM By using RT's standards Fay Wray should be #1, I mean if being toted around by a giant gorilla thats constantly fighting prehistoric monsters & takes Her for a nice climb up the side of the Empire State Building dont get You votes what the hell does? (Reply to this) |
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chewie louie writes: on Jul 04 2008 07:53 PM Sigourney Weaver isn't #1? Linda Hamilton is way too low. And where the hell is Carrie Fisher? Absurd list. (Reply to this) |
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a.wankier writes: on Jul 04 2008 08:55 PM This is a terrible list. I don't know if you people who wrote it are actually watching these movies but Angelina Jolie and Milla Jovovich are stick figures. You honestly think they're tougher than Weaver or Hamilton? Jolie or Jovovich wouldn't stand a chance in hell. It's funny to see Angelina's bony arms trying to lift those huge guns. Anyone who actually buys that is a complete moron. Same with Kiera Knightley, as some people have suggested. Domino was a joke and she's too skinney to be taken seriuosly. Hardly anyone on this list is even believable as tough. I've seen lists like this before and this is far and away the worst one. Bad list. Bad, bad list. (Reply to this) |
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a.wankier writes: on Jul 04 2008 08:56 PM This is a terrible list. I don't know if you people who wrote it are actually watching these movies but Angelina Jolie and Milla Jovovich are stick figures. You honestly think they're tougher than Weaver or Hamilton? Jolie or Jovovich wouldn't stand a chance in hell. It's funny to see Angelina's bony arms trying to lift those huge guns. Anyone who actually buys that is a complete moron. Same with Kiera Knightley, as some people have suggested. Domino was a joke and she's too skinney to be taken seriuosly. Hardly anyone on this list is even believable as tough. I've seen lists like this before and this is far and away the worst one. Bad list. Bad, bad list. (Reply to this) |
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rael220 writes: on Jul 05 2008 06:14 AM This list is a mess, thanks anyway. (Reply to this) |
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Hyphen Cide writes: on Jul 05 2008 12:01 PM In reply to this comment (#1812905) That is why this is a list of the best action female stars. Heroines not heroes. (Reply to this) |
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air-x-images writes: on Jul 05 2008 11:21 PM hey what happened to the jessicas? alba or biel? i think they should be top 25!!im probably alone in this!! fantastic 4's, dark angel.. blade 3,chainsaw.. they need to do a dark angel movie..and on a different subject, why dont they do a professional 2 with portman? def think theres a movie there!! (Reply to this) |
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MisterSeth writes: on Jul 06 2008 07:51 AM The top 5 was... worthy. Although I would have swapped Uma Thurman and Angelina Jolie... a minor twitch, in all consideration. Not a bad list. (Reply to this) |
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ChoboChotch writes: on Jul 06 2008 10:15 AM This list loses all credibility with Ripley at #7. She is clearly #1 and is not just a great heroine but one of the greatest action heroes in two (alien and aliens) of the greatest action/thriller movies ever made (Reply to this) |
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floacist writes: on Jul 06 2008 11:47 AM NO LUCY LAWLESS XENA? The list is no longer relevant. And some of the positions I would bring much higher, as others have noted. (Reply to this) |
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floacist writes: on Jul 06 2008 05:08 PM In reply to this comment (#1844149) OK I just realized that this isn't counting TV...but still. She is so gritty,gutterkickass she has to transcend the rules and be on this list anyway. (Reply to this) |
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wafflesdiary writes: on Jul 06 2008 06:01 PM In reply to this comment (#1812910) "Heroine" means women. You're very smart. (Reply to this) |
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Hookie101 writes: on Jul 06 2008 08:17 PM This list is crap. Milla Jovovich above Sigourney Weaver? Ripley's pretty much as solid as they come. (Reply to this) |
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Agent69 writes: on Jul 07 2008 05:20 AM This list SUCKS. SUCKS I say. Sigourney Weaver #7 she should be #1 or #2 Milla Jovovich #5 ....... OH PHulease SUCKS I SAY. (Reply to this) |
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Niraj writes: on Jul 07 2008 09:42 PM I think Uma Thurman could take over Angelina Jolie. She is a vicious lady herself in Kill Bill Vol. 1 and 2 and that says no more! (Reply to this) |
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Niraj writes: on Jul 07 2008 09:42 PM I think Uma Thurman could take over Angelina Jolie. She is a vicious lady herself in Kill Bill Vol. 1 and 2 and that says no more! (Reply to this) |
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confusnuseoftime writes: on Jul 08 2008 02:52 PM Sarah Conner would beat the piss out of Ripley in a streetfight. Shes definetely the most intense of all of these characters on the list. Christ, didn't she get stabbed through the shoulder and shot through the leg? Didn't she bark orders at ahnold like she had a bigger **** than he did? And what about Enrique, she made that fool her *****. And that escape from pescadero. "You broke my arm." Silverman was lucky, she shattered that other dudes face with a broomhandle. And above all, shes probably the most believable of all of them, no cheap gimmicks, just straight up im gonna **** your *** up attitude. (Reply to this) |
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dogmafrog writes: on Jul 08 2008 06:36 PM OK, not going to beat the dead horse about Weaver (#1 no doubt). But how about this dark horse: Natalie Portman. She's got the Star Wars movies (as tough as Carie Fisher, anyway), V for Vendetta (she and Weaver both shaved their heads to show how badass they are, so good company...), and you can't forget The Professional (she even kicked your *** when she was like 11). So theres my contribution. I'm not saying #1, but I'd sure as hell rank Natalie Portman over Natasha Henstridge... (Reply to this) |
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CTild writes: on Jul 08 2008 11:06 PM I'm sorry. There's just no excuse for Sigourney Weaver not being #1. This list is a sham. (Reply to this) |
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DEMCAD writes: on Jul 09 2008 12:20 PM In reply to this comment (#1813880) Why isn't Peta Wilson (from the V show "Le Femme Nikita") not on this list? And why is Kate Beckinsale ranked higher than Linda Hamilton? (Reply to this) |
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dococular writes: on Jul 09 2008 03:27 PM I may not agree with everything on the list but I do find it interesting--and the balance of actresses from different genres and regions was nice. Some of the unevenness seems to come from a somewhat inconsistently applied, "if I saw this actress walking down the street, how scared would I be?" which sometimes blurs with "if I saw this character...?" Just for fun I thought I'd list the "actresses who would scare the **** out of me on the street." Again, this isn't meant to replace the RT list. This is just a small subset based on different criteria. 1. Grace Jones - dis her films and acting if you like, but she's an iconic badass. both physically cut and a hint of the crazy that makes her intimidating. 2. Bridgette Nielsen - not a big fan of her, and the thing with flav still weirds me out, but she's definitely physically imposing. 3. Michelle Rodriguez - Love her as an actress. But she's definitely got the crazy/wild child. Not as physically imposing, but definitely a scrapper and has an attitude to match. 4. Linda Hamilton (T2 era) - hard as hell. the work out scene at the beggining of T2 showed off her physical transformation and when she whups *** on the way out of the hospital I believed it. Honorable Mention: Chiaki Kuriyama - Not physically imposing, and I haven't heard enough about her outside of her roles to know how crazy she really is, but she's got enough of that glint in her eye that I'd frankly be a little worried that I'd talk to her and end up with a knife in the gut in a ditch somewhere. ...and that's about it. On the real list, I agree with many that Weaver & Yeoh are tops. I agree that James Cameron did put out two iconic badass women (with the extra credit for Vasquez, who I f-ing love), but I definitely have to disagree with the earlier comment about Jamie Lee Curtis. Her character was whiny, killed by dropping her gun, and generally acted stupidly. As I recall I'm definitely not the only person to criticize Cameron's disappointing shift from strong female characters to a very stock damsel in distress character. (Reply to this) |
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ScottHodgins writes: on Jul 09 2008 09:16 PM In reply to this comment (#1812905) This list is called "The 25 Best Action Heroines of All Time" where the keyword is "Heroines" which means female heroes. (Reply to this) |
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padidas writes: on Jul 09 2008 10:33 PM I was gonna say, if Michelle Yeoh isn't on here, this list sucks. And what do you know, she's number 1! Perfect! (Reply to this) |
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BondorBourne writes: on Jul 10 2008 07:38 AM OK - firstly - the criteria is completely *****ed up. Zoe Bell being in there is a strong reminder that actors couldn't actually kick their own way out of a paper bag (generally) - and that, is the point! I wouldn't give a sh*t if Michelle Yeoh or Sigourney Weaver wanted to kill me...but I'd be pretty freaked if one of their characters was to step up. So, we shouldn't be rating real people (actors), we should simply be assessing the on-screen character and how much they made you just go "Holy sh*t!". I also don't really think super-heroes should count (including Kate B in Underworld). Obviously, super-powers are not a fair advantage when comparing who would best kick arse. The CLEAR No.1 for me is not even on the list: 1. Samantha Caine (a.k.a. Geena Davis) - The Long Kiss Goodnight Have any of you seen the transformation she makes from normal woman (courtesy of amnesia) to an assassin that would make mince of Jason Bourne??? I can't believe no one else has bitched about it!!! When she comes up from the water torture, converted back to her old, assassinating self...you just sh*t bricks at how incredibly ready she is to murder, murder and murder some more! Oh - and she does a sh*t load of it too. Shame on you RT. Kudos to the site though! (Reply to this) |
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BondorBourne writes: on Jul 10 2008 07:53 AM I am sad - I thought RT would contain a number of mildly intelligent people, but they certainly don't reply to posts - shame on me. Thank you to those of you who recognise we should be rating characters (i.e. the fictional hero on the screen) and not the actress behind them. The actress only gets credit if the character is believable and the character is only good if we believe...so: stop talking about ACTORS!!! (Reply to this) |
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rle4lunch writes: on Jul 14 2008 04:08 PM Pam Freakin' Grier in #2 slot? Seems a bit fishy to me. She's been in like 3 movies, 1 of them maybe being actually watched. This list was all over the place, but there are some good ones on here. As for putting them in order though, it seems RT wrote all the names down on a deck of cards, shuffled, then flipped them over and counted backwards. tisk. tisk. The only good thing out of this list was the 'all outta bubblegum line'. (Reply to this) |
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RevolutionNeeded writes: on Jul 17 2008 11:50 AM Uma thurman was the worst in the kill bill series i feel the movies would have been better without her critical casting error bad acting everyone else was prime i'm just not an uma fan and who gives a hoot about her playing poison ivy in those so called movies with george clooney playing batman and whats his face... down fall of the batman series thank god for christian bale (Reply to this) |
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dcpuser writes: on Jul 22 2008 08:27 AM There are only two. Linda Hamilton (T2) and Sigourney Weaver (Alien & Aliens). I'm going to pretend Alien 3 never existed. Everyone else is just a cheap knock off of these two. (Reply to this) |
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TidalSpiral writes: on Jul 24 2008 12:18 AM Wow, I need to research some Michelle Yeoh movies. That one where she is wearing a white shirt and throwing down in a mansion was AWESOME. Especially the "break through glass and grab legs then drag through two other glass panes" move. That had to hurt even for stunt men. Haha. (Reply to this) |
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